Pat, I am so sorry to learn of your trouble from the hurricanes. So many have lost so much! I hope that things go better for you now and that you can retrieve or recreate your research and rebuild your life. Blessings. Pam Berger, WI ----- Original Message ----- From: <PNUTREG@cs.com> To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 3:16 PM Subject: [NYMADISO] RE: Please Excuse if I have Not Replied or Answered > Hi > > If you are one of the people waiting for a reply from me please wait until we get a new home. We were around for 2 major Hurricanes and able to have a place to live (even though damaged), but lost out to Hurricane Wilma who hit us with a temedous blow of 125 winds and a much stronger back lash and tornado's. Our Luck ran out and we are now among the many homeless from this year's Hurricane's. > > Larry and I lost our home and personal property this time. I am drying out papers, files, books and research from my file cabinets from over the years and have salvaged some of my ancient records. As you all know much of my work was done prior to computers and therefore it has been a a blow and I am still in shock. > > Will try to keep in touch with a computer when able. > > Regards > Pat R > > > ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe from this list - send email to - > nymadiso-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word - unsubscribe in the body of the email. If you are subscribed in Digest mode use the same address but change the -L- to -D-. > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > >

Pat,I am so sorry to hear of this- we got hit also,but guess not near as bad- only sprung a few leaks in the roof- this last one missed more than hit us- ----- Original Message ----- From: <PNUTREG@cs.com> To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 3:16 PM Subject: [NYMADISO] RE: Please Excuse if I have Not Replied or Answered > Hi > > If you are one of the people waiting for a reply from me please wait until we get a new home. We were around for 2 major Hurricanes and able to have a place to live (even though damaged), but lost out to Hurricane Wilma who hit us with a temedous blow of 125 winds and a much stronger back lash and tornado's. Our Luck ran out and we are now among the many homeless from this year's Hurricane's. > > Larry and I lost our home and personal property this time. I am drying out papers, files, books and research from my file cabinets from over the years and have salvaged some of my ancient records. As you all know much of my work was done prior to computers and therefore it has been a a blow and I am still in shock. > > Will try to keep in touch with a computer when able. > > Regards > Pat R > > > ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe from this list - send email to - > nymadiso-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word - unsubscribe in the body of the email. If you are subscribed in Digest mode use the same address but change the -L- to -D-. > >

Sorry my signature url was in error. The correct website address for Upstate New York Genealogy is www.ny-genes.com -- Dick Hillenbrand Please visit and bookmark my website for Upstate New York genealogical research. www.ny-genes.com

I have put a new page on my website that will be helpful to those performing New York State Civil War research. The button is on the left all the way at the bottom of the list. Hope it is helpful to many. -- Dick Hillenbrand Please visit and bookmark my website for Upstate New York genealogical research. www.nygenes.com

Hi If you are one of the people waiting for a reply from me please wait until we get a new home. We were around for 2 major Hurricanes and able to have a place to live (even though damaged), but lost out to Hurricane Wilma who hit us with a temedous blow of 125 winds and a much stronger back lash and tornado's. Our Luck ran out and we are now among the many homeless from this year's Hurricane's. Larry and I lost our home and personal property this time. I am drying out papers, files, books and research from my file cabinets from over the years and have salvaged some of my ancient records. As you all know much of my work was done prior to computers and therefore it has been a a blow and I am still in shock. Will try to keep in touch with a computer when able. Regards Pat R

At 09:32 AM 10/19/05 -0700, you wrote: >Does anyone have the 1855 census for Cazenovia and would do >a look up? John Rickard died in August of 1855 and poss. lived >in Cazenovia or Sullivan (he had 2 farms, one near Cazenovia >in Madison county and one near Manliu in Onondaga County). I >wish to know where John was born. > >Thanks very much. > > >Karl >karlme@earthlink.net > Karl, Only Rickard in Cazenovia - 1855 - is Archibald age 45 with 2 other persons in household with him. Tim Stowell who must get a few winks before hitting the road!

Since my last report of 10/3/05: Chenango County: A few more bios from the 1898 biography book - http://www.rootsweb.com/~nychenan/1898bios.htm 12 more pages of the 1860 Bainbridge census which finishes this project!: (which is what I've spent most of my time doing) http://www.rootsweb.com/~nychenan/census/1860/bainbridge/1860bnbr.htm ============================================================================ Cortland County: A few more pages of Grip's Historical View of Cortland: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nycortla/crtdvlle.htm OR http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/cortland/crtdvlle.htm ============================================================================ Madison County: Nothing to report. ----------------------- However....I'm leaving in the AM for my old home place in Virginia to be followed Monday or Tuesday by a two day visit to Chenango / Madison counties before heading to Toronto for several days. Hoping to pay a couple of courtesy calls while there. It sounds as if the weather is turning wet and cold to greet me, but we had a bit of that here today with low in the 40s highs in the low 60s today, cloudy and high humidity, breezy which made it feel colder than it really was. Plan to be back home in early November. Tim

Does anyone have the 1855 census for Cazenovia and would do a look up? John Rickard died in August of 1855 and poss. lived in Cazenovia or Sullivan (he had 2 farms, one near Cazenovia in Madison county and one near Manliu in Onondaga County). I wish to know where John was born. Thanks very much. Karl karlme@earthlink.net

Here is a link to my website which will show the NYS census availability for all of the counties. If you see one listed it can be seen at the NYS Library in Albany, most are now at the Onondaga County Public Library in Syracuse, and of course LDS in Salt Lake City and through them at a Family History Center at a Mormon church near you, through their very reasonably priced microfilm rental program. Oh, and by the way, the original books or photocopies of them can usually be accessed in-person at the County Clerk's Office in the county of interest. They are still required by law to retain them. The NYS Library does NOT send them out through inter-library loan. On 10/13/05, Derek Minchey <fogman7@msn.com> wrote: > > Looking for Hallet/Hallett in the 1825 census of Madison Cty. > any help?????? I have them in the 1830,40,50, > any help appreciated > thanks > derek > > > ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== > To post to this list - send email from the address you subsribed to the > list with to this address - NYMadiso-L@rootsweb.com > > > -- Best regards. Dick Hillenbrand Please visit and bookmark my webpage for Upstate New York genealogical research. www.ny-genes.com <http://www.ny-genes.com> P. S. Check out Legacy Family Tree today! This full featured genealogy program can be downloaded FREE at http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Index.asp?mid=5841tni

The original books in Madison Co. cannot be accessed by the public. They were removed from the county clerk's office by the county historian because of their poor condition. In the county itself, some of the federal census are available at various public libraries on microfilm. All Madison Co. census from 1810 through 1920, including the state census, are on microfilm at the Madison Co. Historical Soc. in Oneida. Donna B. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick Hillenbrand" <nygenes@gmail.com> To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] 1825 census request > Here is a link to my website which will show the NYS census availability for > all of the counties. If you see one listed it can be seen at the NYS Library > in Albany, most are now at the Onondaga County Public Library in Syracuse, > and of course LDS in Salt Lake City and through them at a Family History > Center at a Mormon church near you, through their very reasonably priced > microfilm rental program. > > Oh, and by the way, the original books or photocopies of them can usually be > accessed in-person at the County Clerk's Office in the county of interest. > They are still required by law to retain them. > > The NYS Library does NOT send them out through inter-library loan. > > > On 10/13/05, Derek Minchey <fogman7@msn.com> wrote: > > > > Looking for Hallet/Hallett in the 1825 census of Madison Cty. > > any help?????? I have them in the 1830,40,50, > > any help appreciated > > thanks > > derek > > > > > > ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== > > To post to this list - send email from the address you subsribed to the > > list with to this address - NYMadiso-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > -- > Best regards. > Dick Hillenbrand > > Please visit and bookmark my webpage for Upstate New York genealogical > research. www.ny-genes.com <http://www.ny-genes.com> > > P. S. Check out Legacy Family Tree today! This full featured genealogy > program can be downloaded FREE at > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Index.asp?mid=5841tni > > > ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== > Search the list archives: > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl - put NYMADISO for > the name of the list > >

I have look at the 1825 Orange, It contained as much info as the 1830, but nice to see middle of the decade, I am looking for my Hallets that where there in Madison after 1820, Stephen Hallett and his wife Deborah, Stephen was dead by 1842 and Deborah remarried a William Guernsey (william was 30 years older than Deborah), looking for more help, I have a land transaction that stated Stephen was had came from Orange previously, Stohen was actually from England So he came to Orange than to Madison, than he left and went into Upper Canada where he died, while his family remained in Madison till abt 1851-54 than they all moved to Iowa thanks derek ----- Original Message ----- From: Donna Burdick<mailto:dburdick@stny.rr.com> To: NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] 1825 census request Derek I don't think that the 1825 census contains actual names. From what I understand, it's just statistical. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Minchey" <fogman7@msn.com<mailto:fogman7@msn.com>> To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 8:18 PM Subject: [NYMADISO] 1825 census request > Looking for Hallet/Hallett in the 1825 census of Madison Cty. > any help?????? I have them in the 1830,40,50, > any help appreciated > thanks > derek > > > ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== > To post to this list - send email from the address you subsribed to the list with to this address - NYMadiso-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:NYMadiso-L@rootsweb.com> > ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== To Unsubscribe from this list - send email to - nymadiso-L-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:nymadiso-L-request@rootsweb.com> with the single word - unsubscribe in the body of the email. If you are subscribed in Digest mode use the same address but change the -L- to -D-.

Derek I don't think that the 1825 census contains actual names. From what I understand, it's just statistical. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Minchey" <fogman7@msn.com> To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 8:18 PM Subject: [NYMADISO] 1825 census request > Looking for Hallet/Hallett in the 1825 census of Madison Cty. > any help?????? I have them in the 1830,40,50, > any help appreciated > thanks > derek > > > ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== > To post to this list - send email from the address you subsribed to the list with to this address - NYMadiso-L@rootsweb.com >

Looking for Hallet/Hallett in the 1825 census of Madison Cty. any help?????? I have them in the 1830,40,50, any help appreciated thanks derek

Thank you! db

New York State clarifies who had the Burial Rights for the state and here is a good explanation for Rights. Regards Pat R http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:newZBldGbY0J:www.dos.state.ny.us/cmty/pdfs /cembltn4.pdf+Burial+Rights+to+Graves+in+New+York+State&hl=en

Does anyone know where I can get the 1855 NY state census for Madison County? Thanks. Karl karlme@earthlink.net

Does anyone know where I can find the 1825 NY state census for Madison County? Thanks. Karl karlme@earthlink.net

One only owns the BURIAL RIGHTS to a grave / family lot. The cemetery, church, or other owner owns the property. db

I might be wrong but I think you OWN a burial site once it is purchased. Sounds like the cemetery staff is "squatting" on your land. Quoting Attitudeab@aol.com: > Hi, > I don't know the laws in New York, but in Nevada there must be written > notification to the cemetery from a known relative before a body can > be exhumed for > any reason, and vise versa. > > When my mother died 3 years ago and my brother and I were at the cemetery > arranging the burial plans, my brother suggested we go see the graves of our > grandparents. Well, we searched and searched, and my brother was > certain we were > in the right location, (he is a land surveyor). Too make a long story short, > we went back into the cemetery's office and explained to them that we > couldn't > find or grandparents. Needless to say, there were a lot of "oh, oh looks" > and they assured us that if we could come back they would physically > take us to > the location of their burial. My brother and I went back and looked in the > area that my brother was certain that the bodies were and it was only > then that > we noticed that the wall that once was squared off was now rounded, with > freshly dug dirt, no longer any grass, sprinklers out of the ground, > and so forth. > It was very clear that they had just changed the design of the wall and our > grandparents had been buried in the corner where the two walls met. > > I spoke to the funeral director about this on the day of my mother's burial > three days later and he was quietly chuckling on the phone...and said > something > like "we found them, and when you are here we will show you where they are." > After my mother's funeral we went to the office and they gave us a recently > made plot map and my brother and myself went to the area on the map > that listed > their burial. We found them, but the headstones were brand new, (they have > been buried for over 15 years), there were no nicks from lawn mowers, no > tarnish from weather, nothing, and since they were cremated it would > have been easy > for the cemetery to have moved the headstones and the urn that was positioned > between them. Believe me, the cemetery was sweating what action our family > was going to take. My dad didn't seem to care, and since it was his dad, we > dropped it, but it just goes to show that anything can happen. It > also makes one > wonder what they would have done with the headstones and cremated remains if > it wasn't for such a twist of fate. Just thought I would share, and > good luck > on your quest. > > Debera. > > > ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe from this list - send email to - > nymadiso-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word - unsubscribe in > the body of the email. If you are subscribed in Digest mode use the > same address but change the -L- to -D-. > >

I tend to agree with you, and that is probably the reason for written authorization on both sides, but if the son of the deceased doesn't care then I guess it is something that he has decided that he can live with. Amazing isn't it? Debera.