Thank you Ethel and Loring. Ann Perrine On Nov 23, 2005, at 1:32 AM, Loring White wrote: > Dick & Bev were both from the central NY area. We have not had any > contact with either of them in over 30 years. We left Rome in 1966. > Bev passed away a long time ago, have no knowledge about Dick. > Good night, > Ethel & Loring White. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Perrine" > <perrineap@mindspring.com> > To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 10:36 PM > Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] Great Trip. > > >> Thank you Ethel and Loring. Do you know if Dick and Bev were from >> your area or that his relatives were? Are you still in touch with >> him. I hope you have a wonderful Thanksgiving also. >> >> Ann Perrine >> On Nov 22, 2005, at 11:31 PM, Loring White wrote: >> >>> Hello Ann >>> We knew a Dick Tibbetts who married Ethel's girl friend Bev. Baker. >>> They lived in Westernville, NY. Dick ran a motorcycle shop in Rome. >>> NY. >>> Not much help. >>> Happy Thanksgiving. >>> Ethel & Loring White >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Perrine" >>> <perrineap@mindspring.com> >>> To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 12:35 PM >>> Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] Great Trip. >>> >>> >>>> Do either of you know anything about the Tibbetts family that lived >>>> in the Happy Hollow area which I think is near Morris? All I have >>>> is Asa Tibbetts and his wife Fanny. >>>> Any info would be absolutely wonderful. >>>> >>>> Ann Scarbrough Perrine >>>> On Nov 22, 2005, at 2:08 PM, Loring White wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Elaine, >>>>> You're not old; Ethel Miller (my wife) was class '42 Morris High >>>>> School and I was class '41 Rome Free Academy, Rome, NY. >>>>> Ethel was raised on the Reuben Miller Farm on the highway between >>>>> New Berlin & Morris. She remembers the Decker family in N.B. >>>>> A new job opportunity for me, required a move to Arizona with our >>>>> four children in 1966. We are presently retired in Montana where >>>>> we can be close to our youngest daughter. >>>>> Happy Thanksgiving >>>>> Ethel (MILLER) & Loring White >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <elainedecker@frontiernet.net> >>>>> To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 11:39 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] Great Trip. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Loring, >>>>>> Who is your wife? I am from New Berlin (4 generations) but I >>>>>> am old - Class of '66. >>>>>> Elaine >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loring White (by way of Tim >>>>>> Stowell <tstowell@chattanooga.net>)" <thelwhites@montana.com> >>>>>> To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 1:14 AM >>>>>> Subject: [NYMADISO] Great Trip. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Tim, >>>>>>> Enjoyed reading about your trip to the Norwich area. >>>>>>> I was born & raised in Rome, NY. and experienced many trips like >>>>>>> yours. >>>>>>> Some were fun, others rather scary. >>>>>>> My wife is from New Berlin and we made several trips like yours, >>>>>>> especially >>>>>>> during the deer hunting season. >>>>>>> Best wishes for a very Happy Thanksgiving and safe journey. >>>>>>> Loring White. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== >>>>>>> Search the list archives: >>>>>>> http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl - put >>>>>>> NYMADISO for >>>>>>> the name of the list >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== >>>>>> To Unsubscribe from this list - send email to - >>>>>> nymadiso-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word - >>>>>> unsubscribe in the body of the email. If you are subscribed in >>>>>> Digest mode use the same address but change the -L- to -D-. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== >>>>> Search the list archives: >>>>> http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl - put NYMADISO >>>>> for >>>>> the name of the list >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== >>>> To post to this list - send email from the address you subsribed to >>>> the list with to this address - NYMadiso-L@rootsweb.com >>> >>> >>> ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== >>> To Unsubscribe from this list - send email to - >>> nymadiso-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word - unsubscribe >>> in the body of the email. If you are subscribed in Digest mode use >>> the same address but change the -L- to -D-. >>> >> >> >> ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== >> To Unsubscribe from this list - send email to - >> nymadiso-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word - unsubscribe in >> the body of the email. If you are subscribed in Digest mode use the >> same address but change the -L- to -D-. > > > ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== > To post to this list - send email from the address you subsribed to > the list with to this address - NYMadiso-L@rootsweb.com >

Thank you Ethel and Loring. Do you know if Dick and Bev were from your area or that his relatives were? Are you still in touch with him. I hope you have a wonderful Thanksgiving also. Ann Perrine On Nov 22, 2005, at 11:31 PM, Loring White wrote: > Hello Ann > We knew a Dick Tibbetts who married Ethel's girl friend Bev. Baker. > They lived in Westernville, NY. Dick ran a motorcycle shop in Rome. > NY. > Not much help. > Happy Thanksgiving. > Ethel & Loring White > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Perrine" > <perrineap@mindspring.com> > To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 12:35 PM > Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] Great Trip. > > >> Do either of you know anything about the Tibbetts family that lived >> in the Happy Hollow area which I think is near Morris? All I have is >> Asa Tibbetts and his wife Fanny. >> Any info would be absolutely wonderful. >> >> Ann Scarbrough Perrine >> On Nov 22, 2005, at 2:08 PM, Loring White wrote: >> >>> Hi Elaine, >>> You're not old; Ethel Miller (my wife) was class '42 Morris High >>> School and I was class '41 Rome Free Academy, Rome, NY. >>> Ethel was raised on the Reuben Miller Farm on the highway between >>> New Berlin & Morris. She remembers the Decker family in N.B. >>> A new job opportunity for me, required a move to Arizona with our >>> four children in 1966. We are presently retired in Montana where we >>> can be close to our youngest daughter. >>> Happy Thanksgiving >>> Ethel (MILLER) & Loring White >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <elainedecker@frontiernet.net> >>> To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 11:39 PM >>> Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] Great Trip. >>> >>> >>>> Loring, >>>> Who is your wife? I am from New Berlin (4 generations) but I am >>>> old - Class of '66. >>>> Elaine >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loring White (by way of Tim >>>> Stowell <tstowell@chattanooga.net>)" <thelwhites@montana.com> >>>> To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 1:14 AM >>>> Subject: [NYMADISO] Great Trip. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Tim, >>>>> Enjoyed reading about your trip to the Norwich area. >>>>> I was born & raised in Rome, NY. and experienced many trips like >>>>> yours. >>>>> Some were fun, others rather scary. >>>>> My wife is from New Berlin and we made several trips like yours, >>>>> especially >>>>> during the deer hunting season. >>>>> Best wishes for a very Happy Thanksgiving and safe journey. >>>>> Loring White. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== >>>>> Search the list archives: >>>>> http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl - put NYMADISO >>>>> for >>>>> the name of the list >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== >>>> To Unsubscribe from this list - send email to - >>>> nymadiso-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word - unsubscribe >>>> in the body of the email. If you are subscribed in Digest mode use >>>> the same address but change the -L- to -D-. >>>> >>> >>> >>> ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== >>> Search the list archives: >>> http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl - put NYMADISO >>> for >>> the name of the list >>> >> >> >> ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== >> To post to this list - send email from the address you subsribed to >> the list with to this address - NYMadiso-L@rootsweb.com > > > ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe from this list - send email to - > nymadiso-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word - unsubscribe in > the body of the email. If you are subscribed in Digest mode use the > same address but change the -L- to -D-. >

Dick & Bev were both from the central NY area. We have not had any contact with either of them in over 30 years. We left Rome in 1966. Bev passed away a long time ago, have no knowledge about Dick. Good night, Ethel & Loring White. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Perrine" <perrineap@mindspring.com> To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 10:36 PM Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] Great Trip. > Thank you Ethel and Loring. Do you know if Dick and Bev were from your > area or that his relatives were? Are you still in touch with him. I > hope you have a wonderful Thanksgiving also. > > Ann Perrine > On Nov 22, 2005, at 11:31 PM, Loring White wrote: > >> Hello Ann >> We knew a Dick Tibbetts who married Ethel's girl friend Bev. Baker. They >> lived in Westernville, NY. Dick ran a motorcycle shop in Rome. NY. >> Not much help. >> Happy Thanksgiving. >> Ethel & Loring White >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Perrine" >> <perrineap@mindspring.com> >> To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 12:35 PM >> Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] Great Trip. >> >> >>> Do either of you know anything about the Tibbetts family that lived in >>> the Happy Hollow area which I think is near Morris? All I have is Asa >>> Tibbetts and his wife Fanny. >>> Any info would be absolutely wonderful. >>> >>> Ann Scarbrough Perrine >>> On Nov 22, 2005, at 2:08 PM, Loring White wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Elaine, >>>> You're not old; Ethel Miller (my wife) was class '42 Morris High School >>>> and I was class '41 Rome Free Academy, Rome, NY. >>>> Ethel was raised on the Reuben Miller Farm on the highway between New >>>> Berlin & Morris. She remembers the Decker family in N.B. >>>> A new job opportunity for me, required a move to Arizona with our four >>>> children in 1966. We are presently retired in Montana where we can be >>>> close to our youngest daughter. >>>> Happy Thanksgiving >>>> Ethel (MILLER) & Loring White >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <elainedecker@frontiernet.net> >>>> To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 11:39 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] Great Trip. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Loring, >>>>> Who is your wife? I am from New Berlin (4 generations) but I am >>>>> old - Class of '66. >>>>> Elaine >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loring White (by way of Tim >>>>> Stowell <tstowell@chattanooga.net>)" <thelwhites@montana.com> >>>>> To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 1:14 AM >>>>> Subject: [NYMADISO] Great Trip. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Tim, >>>>>> Enjoyed reading about your trip to the Norwich area. >>>>>> I was born & raised in Rome, NY. and experienced many trips like >>>>>> yours. >>>>>> Some were fun, others rather scary. >>>>>> My wife is from New Berlin and we made several trips like yours, >>>>>> especially >>>>>> during the deer hunting season. >>>>>> Best wishes for a very Happy Thanksgiving and safe journey. >>>>>> Loring White. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== >>>>>> Search the list archives: >>>>>> http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl - put NYMADISO >>>>>> for >>>>>> the name of the list >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== >>>>> To Unsubscribe from this list - send email to - >>>>> nymadiso-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word - unsubscribe in >>>>> the body of the email. If you are subscribed in Digest mode use the >>>>> same address but change the -L- to -D-. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== >>>> Search the list archives: >>>> http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl - put NYMADISO for >>>> the name of the list >>>> >>> >>> >>> ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== >>> To post to this list - send email from the address you subsribed to the >>> list with to this address - NYMadiso-L@rootsweb.com >> >> >> ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== >> To Unsubscribe from this list - send email to - >> nymadiso-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word - unsubscribe in the >> body of the email. If you are subscribed in Digest mode use the same >> address but change the -L- to -D-. >> > > > ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe from this list - send email to - > nymadiso-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word - unsubscribe in the > body of the email. If you are subscribed in Digest mode use the same > address but change the -L- to -D-. >

Hello Ann We knew a Dick Tibbetts who married Ethel's girl friend Bev. Baker. They lived in Westernville, NY. Dick ran a motorcycle shop in Rome. NY. Not much help. Happy Thanksgiving. Ethel & Loring White ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Perrine" <perrineap@mindspring.com> To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] Great Trip. > Do either of you know anything about the Tibbetts family that lived in the > Happy Hollow area which I think is near Morris? All I have is Asa > Tibbetts and his wife Fanny. > Any info would be absolutely wonderful. > > Ann Scarbrough Perrine > On Nov 22, 2005, at 2:08 PM, Loring White wrote: > >> Hi Elaine, >> You're not old; Ethel Miller (my wife) was class '42 Morris High School >> and I was class '41 Rome Free Academy, Rome, NY. >> Ethel was raised on the Reuben Miller Farm on the highway between New >> Berlin & Morris. She remembers the Decker family in N.B. >> A new job opportunity for me, required a move to Arizona with our four >> children in 1966. We are presently retired in Montana where we can be >> close to our youngest daughter. >> Happy Thanksgiving >> Ethel (MILLER) & Loring White >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: <elainedecker@frontiernet.net> >> To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 11:39 PM >> Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] Great Trip. >> >> >>> Loring, >>> Who is your wife? I am from New Berlin (4 generations) but I am >>> old - Class of '66. >>> Elaine >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loring White (by way of Tim Stowell >>> <tstowell@chattanooga.net>)" <thelwhites@montana.com> >>> To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 1:14 AM >>> Subject: [NYMADISO] Great Trip. >>> >>> >>>> Hi Tim, >>>> Enjoyed reading about your trip to the Norwich area. >>>> I was born & raised in Rome, NY. and experienced many trips like yours. >>>> Some were fun, others rather scary. >>>> My wife is from New Berlin and we made several trips like yours, >>>> especially >>>> during the deer hunting season. >>>> Best wishes for a very Happy Thanksgiving and safe journey. >>>> Loring White. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== >>>> Search the list archives: >>>> http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl - put NYMADISO for >>>> the name of the list >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== >>> To Unsubscribe from this list - send email to - >>> nymadiso-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word - unsubscribe in >>> the body of the email. If you are subscribed in Digest mode use the >>> same address but change the -L- to -D-. >>> >> >> >> ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== >> Search the list archives: >> http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl - put NYMADISO for >> the name of the list >> > > > ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== > To post to this list - send email from the address you subsribed to the > list with to this address - NYMadiso-L@rootsweb.com >

I too am glad I live in sunny Florida, but the trip down Memory Lane was delightful Tim. I grew up in upstate New York, Syracuse area, but your e-mail brought back many memories. Thanks. Let us all count our blessings this Thanksgiving. Dorothy

Do either of you know anything about the Tibbetts family that lived in the Happy Hollow area which I think is near Morris? All I have is Asa Tibbetts and his wife Fanny. Any info would be absolutely wonderful. Ann Scarbrough Perrine On Nov 22, 2005, at 2:08 PM, Loring White wrote: > Hi Elaine, > You're not old; Ethel Miller (my wife) was class '42 Morris High > School and I was class '41 Rome Free Academy, Rome, NY. > Ethel was raised on the Reuben Miller Farm on the highway between New > Berlin & Morris. She remembers the Decker family in N.B. > A new job opportunity for me, required a move to Arizona with our four > children in 1966. We are presently retired in Montana where we can be > close to our youngest daughter. > Happy Thanksgiving > Ethel (MILLER) & Loring White > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: <elainedecker@frontiernet.net> > To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 11:39 PM > Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] Great Trip. > > >> Loring, >> Who is your wife? I am from New Berlin (4 generations) but I am >> old - Class of '66. >> Elaine >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loring White (by way of Tim >> Stowell <tstowell@chattanooga.net>)" <thelwhites@montana.com> >> To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 1:14 AM >> Subject: [NYMADISO] Great Trip. >> >> >>> Hi Tim, >>> Enjoyed reading about your trip to the Norwich area. >>> I was born & raised in Rome, NY. and experienced many trips like >>> yours. >>> Some were fun, others rather scary. >>> My wife is from New Berlin and we made several trips like yours, >>> especially >>> during the deer hunting season. >>> Best wishes for a very Happy Thanksgiving and safe journey. >>> Loring White. >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== >>> Search the list archives: >>> http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl - put NYMADISO >>> for >>> the name of the list >>> >>> >> >> >> ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== >> To Unsubscribe from this list - send email to - >> nymadiso-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word - unsubscribe in >> the body of the email. If you are subscribed in Digest mode use the >> same address but change the -L- to -D-. >> > > > ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== > Search the list archives: > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl - put NYMADISO for > the name of the list >

Hi Elaine, You're not old; Ethel Miller (my wife) was class '42 Morris High School and I was class '41 Rome Free Academy, Rome, NY. Ethel was raised on the Reuben Miller Farm on the highway between New Berlin & Morris. She remembers the Decker family in N.B. A new job opportunity for me, required a move to Arizona with our four children in 1966. We are presently retired in Montana where we can be close to our youngest daughter. Happy Thanksgiving Ethel (MILLER) & Loring White ----- Original Message ----- From: <elainedecker@frontiernet.net> To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 11:39 PM Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] Great Trip. > Loring, > Who is your wife? I am from New Berlin (4 generations) but I am old - > Class of '66. > Elaine > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Loring White (by way of Tim Stowell <tstowell@chattanooga.net>)" > <thelwhites@montana.com> > To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 1:14 AM > Subject: [NYMADISO] Great Trip. > > >> Hi Tim, >> Enjoyed reading about your trip to the Norwich area. >> I was born & raised in Rome, NY. and experienced many trips like yours. >> Some were fun, others rather scary. >> My wife is from New Berlin and we made several trips like yours, >> especially >> during the deer hunting season. >> Best wishes for a very Happy Thanksgiving and safe journey. >> Loring White. >> >> >> >> ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== >> Search the list archives: >> http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl - put NYMADISO for >> the name of the list >> >> > > > ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe from this list - send email to - > nymadiso-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word - unsubscribe in the > body of the email. If you are subscribed in Digest mode use the same > address but change the -L- to -D-. > >

This is a comment on a Sept message from Sharon about what to do with one's genealogy papers when no relative is interested, while not wishing to expose living persons listed in them. Perhaps you could collect the information on living relatives into a separate supplement and donate it to a genealogical library with your other materials and a stipulation that this supplement cannot be opened for x number of years after your demise. Perhaps an archivist at a likely institution could offer further guidance. Though it might be time consuming, you could send a letter to living persons explaining your dilemma and asking what you might include about them. Really, vital records and the facts they represent are public records, so people don't really have a right to as much privacy as they think. It may be alright with most people to include at least their names, decade of birth, and state of residence to give future researchers something to go on, but that leaves out everything interesting about them. Once people understand how easy it is to find detailed personal information on them over the Internet from sources that have nothing to do with genealogy, they may not object to some information for genealogy. Some might be fine with their whole biography out there for posterity. Others will be lost to the family history if they demand total privacy, which is an illusion I am not certain one must indulge entirely. Genealogists are historians after all. In any case, it is best to have consent and even to say "listed here with consent" if the person is living. In contemplation of the genealogist's eventual demise, it might be wise to put a reference to special instructions prominently on one's files and with one's papers, in multiples, and not just depend on instructions in a will, as by the time a will is read the papers may have been thrown out. Some relatives of mine recently disposed of almost all their mother's belongings before she was even in the ground, so I think one cannot always count on relatives to do the respectful or logical thing--or even to look at the papers to discern proper disposition. It is surely best to publish or put together a family book at some point (one can always do an addendum or revised edition later as research continues) or to place one's papers during one's lifetime, when that is possible. Just some ideas, belatedly, which I must also keep in mind. We don't live forever and we usually don't know when our time is up. It would be terrible to have one's life work wind up in a landfill. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Garrett" <skye523@webtv.net> To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] Living relatives > Gosh, I am ust ot describing the problem. If I die next month all my data that I have on living family members will be just thrown out! No one close to me is interested. > I need to figure out how hundreds of hours of genealogy work and dozens and dozens of family group sheets can be saved. > I would and have neer put anything on a website and those are not a way to save data for , what I hope, will be a future genealogist in the family. > I guess you all have younger family members that are interested, I do not. > I have literally hundreds of cousins (of one degree or another) all over the US that are descendants. > Now LDS only takes info on deceased. I do not know of any repository to give this info to. > Maybe others in a like position have never thought beyond their life time and how to protect their valuable research? > If anyone has, plase let me know. > The datawould be pretty useless with out dates, places, etc, but just can not be given to an historical society, etc without. I do not know of a solution. > I have a cousin dying of cancer with the same worries regarding his work. His wife will just throw it out in the trash and neither of his daughters want it. > It seems like there should be some sort of an effort to create a repository..some safe way to protect the data of us all for posterity... but what? Or is there somewhere? that is what I want to know. > has anyone mae a way to safeguard thir data on people who are now living? Or perhaps few have data on hundreds of people like me as they are not from the prolific breeders my people were (: > Thanks, > Sharon >

Loring, Who is your wife? I am from New Berlin (4 generations) but I am old - Class of '66. Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loring White (by way of Tim Stowell <tstowell@chattanooga.net>)" <thelwhites@montana.com> To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 1:14 AM Subject: [NYMADISO] Great Trip. > Hi Tim, > Enjoyed reading about your trip to the Norwich area. > I was born & raised in Rome, NY. and experienced many trips like yours. > Some were fun, others rather scary. > My wife is from New Berlin and we made several trips like yours, > especially > during the deer hunting season. > Best wishes for a very Happy Thanksgiving and safe journey. > Loring White. > > > > ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== > Search the list archives: > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl - put NYMADISO for > the name of the list > >

Hi Tim, Enjoyed reading about your trip to the Norwich area. I was born & raised in Rome, NY. and experienced many trips like yours. Some were fun, others rather scary. My wife is from New Berlin and we made several trips like yours, especially during the deer hunting season. Best wishes for a very Happy Thanksgiving and safe journey. Loring White.

While answering some mail I found some stuff to do for Madison County and thus I can report some new cemetery links to Dan's material for Cazenovia that some may not have been aware of: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nymadiso/madcems.htm =========================== And based on a question from someone regarding the Cortland County Grips book I've now included page numbers that the selections belong with, so if one finds a name in the index they can readily see if the section has been placed on-line or not. http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/cortland/crtdvlle.htm Seems I also left out a couple of graphics in the first section of the book when I uploaded it....oops! Additionally this evening I have the first bio up from the book announced last night so one can get the flavor of how these might be. http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/cortland/books/1898bios.htm Tim

It's times like these that I am glad I live in Florida- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Stowell" <tstowell@chattanooga.net> To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 10:56 PM Subject: [NYMADISO] update 11/20/05 - part 2 > Since my last report of 10/22/05: > > When I was in New York last month I had intended on visiting family > and paying a courtesy call or two. > > Mother Nature had other plans. We awoke on Tuesday morning in Hazelton, Pa., > after an all night rain to sleet mixed with rain. As we drove north to > Scranton > it turned completely to snow just north of there. Coming down from the > mountains of Pa., to Binghamton back to rain / snow mix. > > We stopped for lunch just off I-81 on Route 12 in Binghamton and watched > giant snowflakes fall. Back on the road as the road became covered as we > moved north on N. Y. 12. Just north of Chenango Forks the road had only one > track each way visible and it was snowing hard. > > The journey from Oxford to Norwich seemed to take a long time as we trudged > along. It was snowing so heavy I never saw the commercial district south > of town, only the McDonald's across the street from Mt. Hope cemetery came > into view. > > Our turn was the first light past McDonald's which took us out to the > east perimeter road of Norwich, past a car dealership on the right, which > only had white cars for sale! Memories came to me of visiting an old > Burlingame cemetery behind the dealership 4 years ago in March, 2001, in > the snow, but in what was then deep snow, but not falling snow. > > At the corner we turned south, with 5-6 inches of snow on the ground, > paused on the side while a fire truck came grinding by and then back east > on some road, with a store on the corner. This road continued at a fairly > steep climb, but we turned left at the next road just past the allegedly > haunted house of the area. > > The story goes that from time to time one may see a person who looks like > an old sea captain walking beside the road. Allegedly no picture on the > walls of the house will hang straight. > > Anyway, after making the turn, I'm surprised to see folks following me, > for I thought, don't follow me, I hardly know where I'm going! Around > the curve into this little hollow we go, followed by a climb up a hill > where I just take the middle of the road and keep slowly trudging upward. > > Top the hill, come down, pass a rather large lake on the left (White's pond?), > then take a left at a farm - after which all landmarks disappear. I was to > take the 2nd right after this turn to reach my cousin's house but shortly > after > turning, I had no idea where I was in relationship to anything else. > > Onward we go and I finally see a house and think of stopping. Thinking of > stopping and actually stopping in such are two vastly different things, > especially from one who rarely sees snow and even more rarely drives on such. > > Slide, slide we go. Heart in throat, but it only takes a little slide to do > that. Gingerly we back out of stuck position and continue creeping what is > now > down hill until we come to a road that dead ins into ours from the right. > I ask my wife which road that was, 1st or 2nd and neither of us can say. Still > snowing quite hard, I stop to see if I can call my cousin. Alas no signal. > > Back in the car downhill we go again, but the twist this time is a down hill > left curve, in which we slide again, same scenario. Out again we go down > a couple hundred yards to see what I really didn't want to see - a down hill > u-turn in the road, but creeping slowly we slide and make it through the turn. > > Down, down, down we go and then, oops, I know we've gone too far when I see > the blacktop of Route 8. Looking to the left I see Holmesville and a lighted > sign. I tell my wife, that I see a business ahead, that we'll just pull in > there to find out where we are in relationship to my cousin's place and/or > call > him. Coming abreast the sign, it is not a business but a church sign. > However, > just a bit further on a lady is standing on her doorstep talking with a > heating > man in her yard. I stop dead in the road and state that I'm lost. > Turned out she knows my cousin's wife and called her up. My cousin arrives > shortly and we take another route to his house, not nearly as steep although > he himself gets stuck at one point on the journey to their log house. > > We get there finally and are informed that they lost power about an hour > before. > The news from the power company is that most of the county is without > power, for > with most of the leaves still on the trees, many branches are breaking, trees > uprooting onto power lines and that power won't be restored until 8 AM next > day. > > Thankfully my cousin's home has a wood stove and sleeping in the loft of the > house we are cozy until about 4 AM when it was time to stoke the fire once > more. > The previous evening was spent talking of family and friends, of times > past, all > to candle and lamp light. > > By morning most of the snow had stopped and we have about 7 inches to greet > us. > We got power back a little after 7 AM, arose, showered and got breakfast > and were > deciding what to do when the power went again. > > We were to stay another day but since my wife had to be in Toronto on > Thursday, > we didn't want to take a chance on getting stuck. > > Another cousin's husband had planned to see us Tuesday evening for supper > but when > the weather went bad on us we decided to have lunch on Wednesday together. My > cousin had wanted to go to Fred's (a rather well known place south of Norwich) > but upon calling them, found out they had no power. > > Since my cousin's daughter worked at a place in Sherburne, we decided to go > there > for lunch. We took the east bypass of Norwich until that came out on Route > 12, > above the pharmacy. Traveling as we did north on 12, brought back many > memories. > Memories of actual events I'd experienced, places and times my father or > grandfather > had spoken of and of such I'd read, compiled and placed on line these past > 9 years. > > After lunch we went our separate ways, my cousin and his wife and the other > cousin's > husband to Norwich and my wife and I to the Cat's Meow in Sherburne. Four > years ago > on my visit to the area, I'd taken her a gift from there and knew it was a > place she'd > like to shop. For me, the fun thing was to run into a gentleman that > actually knew > some of my family and some of my family long departed. > > It turned out this gentleman's family had the farm in Upperville between > Smyrna and > Otselic just past Mr. Twist's store and a neighbor to my Dad's sister and > her husband. > He also knew my grandfather's brother who lived between Upperville and > Otselic - so > that too was a neat connection to find out about and speak of. > > While my visit there was short, much shorter than I wished it could be, I > was still > contented to be able to do so and started thinking about when I can visit > again. I > guess next time I'll shoot for warmer weather, when the chance of bad > weather should > be greatly diminished. > > Lastly, my wish to each of you is that you have a great Thanksgiving > holiday, shared > with friends and family, a day of remembering good times, looking also > toward the > future and what wonders it may hold. > > Tim Stowell > > > ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== > To post to this list - send email from the address you subsribed to the list with to this address - NYMadiso-L@rootsweb.com > >

Tim- I enjoyed the details of your recent travels on route 12, etc. If I only had a $ for each time I have driven route 12 on visits to the Upstate area since I was born and brought up. And the snow and ice can be more than a little challenging. Some of the towns you mention are well known to us from our past forays into the area. Glad you had a safe trip and thanks for your work in Madison County. Have a good Thanksgiving, Tim and family! G. M. F. Maranatha

Since my last report of 10/22/05: When I was in New York last month I had intended on visiting family and paying a courtesy call or two. Mother Nature had other plans. We awoke on Tuesday morning in Hazelton, Pa., after an all night rain to sleet mixed with rain. As we drove north to Scranton it turned completely to snow just north of there. Coming down from the mountains of Pa., to Binghamton back to rain / snow mix. We stopped for lunch just off I-81 on Route 12 in Binghamton and watched giant snowflakes fall. Back on the road as the road became covered as we moved north on N. Y. 12. Just north of Chenango Forks the road had only one track each way visible and it was snowing hard. The journey from Oxford to Norwich seemed to take a long time as we trudged along. It was snowing so heavy I never saw the commercial district south of town, only the McDonald's across the street from Mt. Hope cemetery came into view. Our turn was the first light past McDonald's which took us out to the east perimeter road of Norwich, past a car dealership on the right, which only had white cars for sale! Memories came to me of visiting an old Burlingame cemetery behind the dealership 4 years ago in March, 2001, in the snow, but in what was then deep snow, but not falling snow. At the corner we turned south, with 5-6 inches of snow on the ground, paused on the side while a fire truck came grinding by and then back east on some road, with a store on the corner. This road continued at a fairly steep climb, but we turned left at the next road just past the allegedly haunted house of the area. The story goes that from time to time one may see a person who looks like an old sea captain walking beside the road. Allegedly no picture on the walls of the house will hang straight. Anyway, after making the turn, I'm surprised to see folks following me, for I thought, don't follow me, I hardly know where I'm going! Around the curve into this little hollow we go, followed by a climb up a hill where I just take the middle of the road and keep slowly trudging upward. Top the hill, come down, pass a rather large lake on the left (White's pond?), then take a left at a farm - after which all landmarks disappear. I was to take the 2nd right after this turn to reach my cousin's house but shortly after turning, I had no idea where I was in relationship to anything else. Onward we go and I finally see a house and think of stopping. Thinking of stopping and actually stopping in such are two vastly different things, especially from one who rarely sees snow and even more rarely drives on such. Slide, slide we go. Heart in throat, but it only takes a little slide to do that. Gingerly we back out of stuck position and continue creeping what is now down hill until we come to a road that dead ins into ours from the right. I ask my wife which road that was, 1st or 2nd and neither of us can say. Still snowing quite hard, I stop to see if I can call my cousin. Alas no signal. Back in the car downhill we go again, but the twist this time is a down hill left curve, in which we slide again, same scenario. Out again we go down a couple hundred yards to see what I really didn't want to see - a down hill u-turn in the road, but creeping slowly we slide and make it through the turn. Down, down, down we go and then, oops, I know we've gone too far when I see the blacktop of Route 8. Looking to the left I see Holmesville and a lighted sign. I tell my wife, that I see a business ahead, that we'll just pull in there to find out where we are in relationship to my cousin's place and/or call him. Coming abreast the sign, it is not a business but a church sign. However, just a bit further on a lady is standing on her doorstep talking with a heating man in her yard. I stop dead in the road and state that I'm lost. Turned out she knows my cousin's wife and called her up. My cousin arrives shortly and we take another route to his house, not nearly as steep although he himself gets stuck at one point on the journey to their log house. We get there finally and are informed that they lost power about an hour before. The news from the power company is that most of the county is without power, for with most of the leaves still on the trees, many branches are breaking, trees uprooting onto power lines and that power won't be restored until 8 AM next day. Thankfully my cousin's home has a wood stove and sleeping in the loft of the house we are cozy until about 4 AM when it was time to stoke the fire once more. The previous evening was spent talking of family and friends, of times past, all to candle and lamp light. By morning most of the snow had stopped and we have about 7 inches to greet us. We got power back a little after 7 AM, arose, showered and got breakfast and were deciding what to do when the power went again. We were to stay another day but since my wife had to be in Toronto on Thursday, we didn't want to take a chance on getting stuck. Another cousin's husband had planned to see us Tuesday evening for supper but when the weather went bad on us we decided to have lunch on Wednesday together. My cousin had wanted to go to Fred's (a rather well known place south of Norwich) but upon calling them, found out they had no power. Since my cousin's daughter worked at a place in Sherburne, we decided to go there for lunch. We took the east bypass of Norwich until that came out on Route 12, above the pharmacy. Traveling as we did north on 12, brought back many memories. Memories of actual events I'd experienced, places and times my father or grandfather had spoken of and of such I'd read, compiled and placed on line these past 9 years. After lunch we went our separate ways, my cousin and his wife and the other cousin's husband to Norwich and my wife and I to the Cat's Meow in Sherburne. Four years ago on my visit to the area, I'd taken her a gift from there and knew it was a place she'd like to shop. For me, the fun thing was to run into a gentleman that actually knew some of my family and some of my family long departed. It turned out this gentleman's family had the farm in Upperville between Smyrna and Otselic just past Mr. Twist's store and a neighbor to my Dad's sister and her husband. He also knew my grandfather's brother who lived between Upperville and Otselic - so that too was a neat connection to find out about and speak of. While my visit there was short, much shorter than I wished it could be, I was still contented to be able to do so and started thinking about when I can visit again. I guess next time I'll shoot for warmer weather, when the chance of bad weather should be greatly diminished. Lastly, my wish to each of you is that you have a great Thanksgiving holiday, shared with friends and family, a day of remembering good times, looking also toward the future and what wonders it may hold. Tim Stowell

Since my last report of 10/22/05: Chenango County: A few more bios from the 1898 biography book - http://www.rootsweb.com/~nychenan/1898bios.htm 1880 History of Chenango and Madison counties: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nychenan/1880hist.htm Town of Preston Town of New Berlin Another section of the 1850 history of Chenango: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nychenan/1850hist.htm 3 wills donated a good while ago: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nychenan/wills.htm ============================================================================ Cortland County: A few more pages of Grip's Historical View of Cortland: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nycortla/crtdvlle.htm OR http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/cortland/crtdvlle.htm The beginnings of a new project for Cortland - a book of biographies written in 1898 - preface and index at the moment. Please send requests for bios with a subject line - 1898 Cortland Bios: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nycortla/bklist1.htm OR http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/cortland/books/1898bios.htm I found the preface highly interesting and good advice even today, a portion quoted below: "...With each succeeding year the haze of Obscurity removes more and more from our view the fast disappearing landmarks of the past, Oblivion sprinkles her dust of forgetfulness on men and their deeds, effectually concealing them from the public eye, and because of the many living objects which claim our attention, few of those who have been removed from the busy world linger long in our memory. Even the glorious achievements of the present age may not insure it from being lost in the glare of greater things to come, and so it is manifestly a duty to posterity for the men of the present time to preserve a record of their lives and a story of their progress from low and humble beginnings to great and noble deeds, in order that future generations may read the account of their successful struggles, and profit by their example. A local history affords the best means of preserving ancestral history, and it also becomes, immediately upon its publication, a ready book of reference for those who have occasion to seek biographical data of the leading and early settled families. Names, dates and events are not easily remembered by the average man, so it behooves the generations now living, who wish to live in the memory of their descendants, to write their own records, making them full and broad in scope, and minute in detail, and insure their preservation by having them put in printed form. We firmly believe that in these collated personal memoirs will be found as true and as faithful a record of Cortland County as may be obtained anywhere, for the very sufficient reason that its growth and development are identified with that of the men who have made her what she is to-day---the representative, leading men, whose personal sketches it has been a pleasure to us to write and give a place in this volume. From the time when the hand of civilized man had not yet violated the virgin soil with desecrating plough, nor with the ever-ready frontiersman's ax felled the noble, almost limitless, forests, to the present period of activity in all branches of industry, we may read in the histories of the county's leading men, and of their ancestors, the steady growth and development which has been going on here for a century and a half, and bids fair to continue for centuries to come. A hundred years from now, whatever records of the present time are then extant, having withstood the ravages of time and the ceaseless war of the elements, will be viewed with an absorbing interest, equalling, if not surpassing, that which is taken to-day in the history of the early settlements of America...." ============================================================================ Madison County: Nothing to report. ----------------------- Tim

Guess I should have included the source: http://arcweb.archives.gov/arc/arch_results_detail.jsp?&pg=24&si=2&nh=111&st=b ----- Original Message ----- From: <elainedecker@frontiernet.net> To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 4:19 PM Subject: [NYMADISO] PHELPS Fraktur From Rev. War Pension > http://arcweb.archives.gov/arc/digital_detail.jsp?&pg=1&rn=1&tn=300058&st=b&rp=details&nh=1 > > Don't know if he belongs to any of us PHELPS researchers but it is worth > looking at. > Elaine > > > ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe from this list - send email to - > nymadiso-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word - unsubscribe in the > body of the email. If you are subscribed in Digest mode use the same > address but change the -L- to -D-. > >

http://arcweb.archives.gov/arc/digital_detail.jsp?&pg=1&rn=1&tn=300058&st=b&rp=details&nh=1 Don't know if he belongs to any of us PHELPS researchers but it is worth looking at. Elaine

Thanks for the compliment, Chas It's funny how things work, but I've had myself absorbed with music lately, and haven't spent a lot of time on the genealogy and history endeavors. I have quite a few more goodies in drawers and boxes that I will get around to eventually - now if I just had 8 arms and 48 hours in a day, I'd be all set, but you know how that goes. I will keep your letter around until I get to that part of the Madison Cemetery Thanks again John

John, Just took some time to go through your web site again. You sure have added a lot. It was an interesting way you put on "Aunt Helen's Diary". (without retyping the whole thong) It gives a lot of info that others might be interested in, like names of people born, died, married, etc. even if not related to Aunt Helen. I might try that with my Grandmother's diary. she mentioned a lot of Madison people of her time. Your cemetery info is great, too. It brings up a point about the accuracy of names on cemetery stones. My great Aunt Min is listed (according to the Madison Village cemetery records) as Minnie J. Armstrong. However, her name actually was Mary Ellen Jones Armstrong. Everybody called her "Min" all her long life. No doubt whoever arranged her burial assumed her name was Minnie. This could throw off a researcher. Probably there are many such instances in cemeteries. If any of the other listers haven't seen your site here is the url: http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~ameralia Chas

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