Hi George Welcome aboard. Nut running the asylum John

In a message dated 3/3/2008 4:16:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Since there is misinformation out there about this group, I thought maybe we could compare notes. Jayne has a copy of Button Families of America. It seems this book includes some of the misinformation. Jayne has also previously contacted Ralph Button, descendant of author of said book at ([email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) ) so see if the original sources of information in the book can be determined. Jayne, when was the Button Families of America published. Is it available anywhere on the web? Dear Terry and Joyce: I do not know that the information we BUTTON researchers have on John BUTTON born 1749 Plainfield, CT and his wife Anna COON is incorrect, so I want to say that to begin with. What I do not understand is why there is so much information about him and virtually nothing about his cousin, also named John BUTTON born 1756 and his wife, Anna PALMER. Both couples lived in Brookfield, Madison Co., NY, and supposedly moved there from RI. But John BUTTON born 1749 was born in and lived in (as far as I know--if anyone has better info on this, I would be glad to hear it--it might help solve this problem) Plainfield, CT. How, then, can he be said to be the one who moved from RI to Madison Co. with Stephen HOXIE and others and built the first grist mill, etc. etc.? John BUTTON born 1756 is said to have lived in Westerly Co., NY before moving to Brookfield, however, and it seems to me that the info about John BUTTON in Brookfield should refer to him rather than John BUTTON born 1749. I am hoping that the info Ralph Button has will help clear this up one way or the other. BUTTON FAMILIES OF AMERICA was compiled by R. Glen Nye, edited by his wife, Katherine (Watson) Nye, and was published in 1971 in San Diego, California. I put "Button Families of America" into Google. Nothing came up that looked like the whole book. This book has been just about impossible to find no doubt because it is still under copyright and copies cannot be made of it by Higginson or anyone. I do not believe that my BUTTONs were at any time named BURTONs. My BUTTONs are: Thomas BUTTON, no birth info, buried June 26, 1617, Harrold, Bedfordshire, England, married Joan MANNING Matthias BUTTON born 1607, Harrold, Bedfordshire, England, married Anne TEAGLE, Lettyce ____, Joan THORNTON, Elizabeth WHEELER Matthias BUTTON born 1657/58, Haverhill, Essex Co., MA, married Mary NEFF Daniel BUTTON born 1687, Haverhill, Essex Co., MA, married Anna BELL Daniel BUTTON born 1724, Windham, Windham Co., MA, married Elizabeth PALMETER John BUTTON born 1756, Rhode Island, married Anna PALMER Festus BUTTON born 1794, Westerly, Washington Co., RI, married Hannah WILCOX, moved first to Brookfield, Madison Co., NY and then to New Berlin, Chenango Co., NY, where he settled Angeline BUTTON, my great grandmother, born 1838, Westerly, Washington Co., RI, married Freeman ELLIS The problem is with John BUTTON born 1756. Do either of you have any mention of him or information about him? It is this generation of the two John BUTTONS that is all mixed up. For instance, you who have John BUTTON born 1749 as your ancestor, his wife was supposed to have had children when she was already old. That can't be right!. She was more than 50 years old when she supposedly had Amy (1797), Ross (1801) and Betsey (1804). There is a big mess with this generation of BUTTONs! Do either of you have an Anna PALMER born 1790? Or any Anna PALMER born in the last half of the 18th century? I have not been able to attach the Anna PALMER who supposedly married John BUTTON born 1756 to any of the PALMER families that lived in Brookfield or in RI or CT.The 1790 census shows a John BUTTON and a female, no doubt his wife, no children yet, in Westerly, Washington Co., NY. I think this is my John BUTTON born 1756. Terry, you gave some info about John BUTTON's born 1749 descendants that I did not have. I do not have Joyce's email address so I will send this email to the list as well as to you individually. Jayne [email protected] . **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 11:05 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > In a message dated 3/3/2008 10:08:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > The lady said, oh wait, I will look one more place for it. She went in the > back room and came out with an old book from Wampsville that hadn't been > indexed yet. She looked for "Maggie" and found her. > > > I have copied and pasted part of Patty's message about finding information > about an ancestor. I wonder if the old, unindexed book the woman had in the > back room was part of the material referred to in the article Chas sent us a > few days ago called "History Reclaimed." I doubt it. For one thing those materials were described as being in bad condition; it seems unlikely they'd have them lying around an office for people (even employees) to handle. For another, I don't see why they'd be in the town office rather than the county. >From what I read in that article I think those materials are going to be carefully evaluated and cataloged for quite some time, and after that -- well, I hope digitized copies, not the originals, will be made available.

On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 11:05 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > In a message dated 3/3/2008 10:08:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > The lady said, oh wait, I will look one more place for it. She went in the > back room and came out with an old book from Wampsville that hadn't been > indexed yet. She looked for "Maggie" and found her. > > > I have copied and pasted part of Patty's message about finding information > about an ancestor. I wonder if the old, unindexed book the woman had in the > back room was part of the material referred to in the article Chas sent us a > few days ago called "History Reclaimed." I doubt it. For one thing those materials were described as being in bad condition; it seems unlikely they'd have them lying around an office for people (even employees) to handle. For another, I don't see why they'd be in the town office rather than the county. >From what I read in that article I think those materials are going to be carefully evaluated and cataloged for quite some time, and after that -- well, I hope digitized copies, not the originals, will be made available.

In a message dated 3/3/2008 10:08:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: The lady said, oh wait, I will look one more place for it. She went in the back room and came out with an old book from Wampsville that hadn't been indexed yet. She looked for "Maggie" and found her. I have copied and pasted part of Patty's message about finding information about an ancestor. I wonder if the old, unindexed book the woman had in the back room was part of the material referred to in the article Chas sent us a few days ago called "History Reclaimed." If it isn't, there is even more material that is not available to us. How I wish I could look at these materials! I will just have to be patient. Jayne [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

Yup - the Mid-York Weekly usually has a mention of the Solsville Hotel. It's run by a pretty good guy now, Brad Dixon, who has made the news a little bit, for winning a recent election, and a controversial stand he took for smokers, in his establishment. They still have the fish fry, but things have changed a little ($) - although Brad has done his best to keep things pretty close to the way they were. I do think that the bar area is called some sort of Irish Pub or something, but I may have been a little "cloudy" at the time, to remember... The train station, I can vaguely remember, was pretty close to the mill, on the east side of Solsville Road. I do remember the tankers coming in, to take away the milk at the milk station though. The "other" bar room, in Solsville, has never seemed to have been "finished," for as long as I can remember - always something left undone, or a board hanging off it. Solsville is pretty quaint, these days - just like it always has been. I think there is a little gift/antique shop, a beauty salon, and that's about it, besides the hotel and I think the bar room is referred to as "Dick's." The dam sinks a little more, each time I see it, and I think the snapping turtles are laying their eggs in the earthen trestle again. And... the raccoons are populating again, which keeps the snapping turtles down, because they know where the eggs are too. I'll get back there again late, this spring. The hand pump, at the "Y," is gone, along with the Post Office, and Grove Hinman, but that's another story... Hope all is well for all of you. John

Jim Now there's one I didn't know - thanks for that. John

The Squat and Gobble restaurant did burn down, but has since been replaced by a new building called the Shady Grill. The Shady Grill was the name of it before the new owner changed its name.to S. & G. The old Shady Grill was a favorite place for the kids to go after prom nights, and graduations. Kids playing "grown-up".Getting plastered, etc. I don't think there was any age limit on drinking, back then. And the drivers had some accidents, too. (A carload of teen agers, etc) Chas So, now it has returned to being the Shady Grill. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 6:54 AM Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] Away for awhile > Nope the Squat and Gobble is/was in Vernon on Rte 5. I believed it burned > a > year or so ago. > > Quacks is on Rte 20. A good place to have a 'down home' cooked meal. Don't > expect fancy but if you enjoy plain cooking and good service at a > reasonable > price this is for you. We have a group of former work mates that have a > retirees reunion there every year when everyone is up from Fl. Wouldn't > miss it. > > > > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1308 - Release Date: 3/3/2008 > 10:01 AM > >

Patty, glad you had some success at Canastota. they have always been very helpful to me. chas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patty" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 10:07 PM Subject: [NYMADISO] Hardings > One part of the mystery was solved today Shot over to Canastota today. > It was such a beautiful day for a drive. Went to the Town of Lenox > Clerk's office. They were so nice...............I was looking for a > death certificate for my g-grandmother, Margaret Harding. They > couldn't find anything. I was so dissappointed and told them it was > o.k. The drive from Connecticut at least was nice. The lady said, oh > wait, I will look one more plce for it. She went in the back room and > came out with an old book from Wampsville that hadn't been indexed > yet. She looked for "Maggie" and found her. I have her date of birth, > which as it turns out, is my husband's birthday. Small world. Her > parent's name, Michael and Helen Driscoll, from Ireland. WHOA! > I asked her who had reported the death and she said Edwin Harding. > Edwin was her son. On the census he is listed as Edward and that's > what I remember my Mom calling him. So even tho I didn't get my > grandmother's father's name, (Harding was her stepfather) feel like I > hit the jackpot. > Patty > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1308 - Release Date: 3/3/2008 > 10:01 AM > >

Nope the Squat and Gobble is/was in Vernon on Rte 5. I believed it burned a year or so ago. Quacks is on Rte 20. A good place to have a 'down home' cooked meal. Don't expect fancy but if you enjoy plain cooking and good service at a reasonable price this is for you. We have a group of former work mates that have a retirees reunion there every year when everyone is up from Fl. Wouldn't miss it. **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

Tim, If I remember correctly you are over six feet tall. If the snow was up to your knees it was up to my hips at me being five feet three inches. Then there was my Carebear spaniel who got totally covered. It sure was fun anyway. Much more memorable than strolling through the cemetery through the posies on a warm sunny day. Also better exercise to have to shovel out the tomb stones. I can't remember what your cousin did. I don't think he was with us in the snow banks. Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Stowell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 12:57 AM Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] computer question??? > At 08:44 AM 3/3/2008, you wrote: >>Tim, I have Windows XP Chas. > > What do you use though to view, add photos to your computer? Are you > using > some software that may have come with your camera? > >> Incidentally, Tim, I visited Americana Village cemetery a couple >> weeks >>ago and saw the Stowell stone. it was too bad weather to get a picture and >>it along with many of the others are difficult to read because of being >>over >>grown with lichen, etc. Many of the old buildings that were moved there >>show >>a lot of neglect.(as far as preservation/restoration is concerned). I >>wonder >>if noone cares as much about it as previously?? > > Is Americana Village a commercial enterprise or is it a county / town > park? > If it is the latter then most likely it may not be the will for > preservation but the > funds with which to do so. > >> I will be visiting there again later when better weather. Chas > > Unless your weather has been extremely mild, I can't see getting out in > the > snow to see such. > > There were those who questioned my sanity when I came to visit cemeteries > in New York in March, 2003. The snow in DeRuyter's SDB church cemetery > was knee deep, yet there I was slogging through to hopefully find some > WILCOX > relatives. While I did find some WILCOX graves they were not the ones I > was > seeking. > > I had been one summer many years ago to another cemetery on a hill west of > DeRuyter, I think that direction is correct, where some MAINE relatives > are > buried, but no WILCOXes I could find just tramping through the rather > large > cemetery. While the MAINE relatives are buried there I've yet to figure > out > how they fit into my family for all my father could tell me is that they > were > cousins of his mother, who was a PARKHURST. > > Our jonquils (yellow Easter flowers) have been up and blooming for about a > week > now. > > Tim > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

At 04:48 PM 3/3/2008, you wrote: >Before the old railroad station in Bouckville became Matt's Diner, it was >Quack's Diner, a trucker's stop. Quackenbush later moved it to Madison for >more room, more parking. > Was Quack's the same as the place known as the Squat and Gobble? Tim

At 08:44 AM 3/3/2008, you wrote: >Tim, I have Windows XP Chas. What do you use though to view, add photos to your computer? Are you using some software that may have come with your camera? > Incidentally, Tim, I visited Americana Village cemetery a couple weeks >ago and saw the Stowell stone. it was too bad weather to get a picture and >it along with many of the others are difficult to read because of being over >grown with lichen, etc. Many of the old buildings that were moved there show >a lot of neglect.(as far as preservation/restoration is concerned). I wonder >if noone cares as much about it as previously?? Is Americana Village a commercial enterprise or is it a county / town park? If it is the latter then most likely it may not be the will for preservation but the funds with which to do so. > I will be visiting there again later when better weather. Chas Unless your weather has been extremely mild, I can't see getting out in the snow to see such. There were those who questioned my sanity when I came to visit cemeteries in New York in March, 2003. The snow in DeRuyter's SDB church cemetery was knee deep, yet there I was slogging through to hopefully find some WILCOX relatives. While I did find some WILCOX graves they were not the ones I was seeking. I had been one summer many years ago to another cemetery on a hill west of DeRuyter, I think that direction is correct, where some MAINE relatives are buried, but no WILCOXes I could find just tramping through the rather large cemetery. While the MAINE relatives are buried there I've yet to figure out how they fit into my family for all my father could tell me is that they were cousins of his mother, who was a PARKHURST. Our jonquils (yellow Easter flowers) have been up and blooming for about a week now. Tim

Hi Patty Solsville has actually been moved, recently. No one really knows where it went... John

Slogging through the snow in DeRuyter's SDB cemetery reminded me to ask this question: Dpes anyone know if there is a master list online of the burials in that cemetery? The names we search for in DeRuyter are Bailey, Rowe, Sutton, Tripp, Deo, Frazier, Albro. Mike and Lois ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Stowell To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] computer question??? At 08:44 AM 3/3/2008, you wrote: >Tim, I have Windows XP Chas. What do you use though to view, add photos to your computer? Are you using some software that may have come with your camera? > Incidentally, Tim, I visited Americana Village cemetery a couple weeks >ago and saw the Stowell stone. it was too bad weather to get a picture and >it along with many of the others are difficult to read because of being over >grown with lichen, etc. Many of the old buildings that were moved there show >a lot of neglect.(as far as preservation/restoration is concerned). I wonder >if noone cares as much about it as previously?? Is Americana Village a commercial enterprise or is it a county / town park? If it is the latter then most likely it may not be the will for preservation but the funds with which to do so. > I will be visiting there again later when better weather. Chas Unless your weather has been extremely mild, I can't see getting out in the snow to see such. There were those who questioned my sanity when I came to visit cemeteries in New York in March, 2003. The snow in DeRuyter's SDB church cemetery was knee deep, yet there I was slogging through to hopefully find some WILCOX relatives. While I did find some WILCOX graves they were not the ones I was seeking. I had been one summer many years ago to another cemetery on a hill west of DeRuyter, I think that direction is correct, where some MAINE relatives are buried, but no WILCOXes I could find just tramping through the rather large cemetery. While the MAINE relatives are buried there I've yet to figure out how they fit into my family for all my father could tell me is that they were cousins of his mother, who was a PARKHURST. Our jonquils (yellow Easter flowers) have been up and blooming for about a week now. Tim ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

One part of the mystery was solved today Shot over to Canastota today. It was such a beautiful day for a drive. Went to the Town of Lenox Clerk's office. They were so nice...............I was looking for a death certificate for my g-grandmother, Margaret Harding. They couldn't find anything. I was so dissappointed and told them it was o.k. The drive from Connecticut at least was nice. The lady said, oh wait, I will look one more plce for it. She went in the back room and came out with an old book from Wampsville that hadn't been indexed yet. She looked for "Maggie" and found her. I have her date of birth, which as it turns out, is my husband's birthday. Small world. Her parent's name, Michael and Helen Driscoll, from Ireland. WHOA! I asked her who had reported the death and she said Edwin Harding. Edwin was her son. On the census he is listed as Edward and that's what I remember my Mom calling him. So even tho I didn't get my grandmother's father's name, (Harding was her stepfather) feel like I hit the jackpot. Patty

Thanks Jim and all. I enjoyed the stories. I was thinking as we drove to Canastota today, DUH!!! You could have goggled Solsville. Patty On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 12:34 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Solsville is one mile north of Madison -- along Oriskany Creek, close to its > source. Not much there. Its also near Bouckville, the high point on the > old railroad that went from Utica to Binghamton. The Chenango Canal also went > through Solsville.... and Bouckville. > > Jim > ************************************************************* > > > In a message dated 3/2/2008 9:15:44 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > > > [email protected] writes: > > O.K. I'll bite. Where's Solsville?

Before the old railroad station in Bouckville became Matt's Diner, it was Quack's Diner, a trucker's stop. Quackenbush later moved it to Madison for more room, more parking. In a message dated 3/3/2008 7:15:01 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: The old railroad station was located in Bouckville on route 20. It later became Matt's Diner which is where I first met my husband :-) I think it is now an antique store, but I haven't been down that way in quite awhile. Pat (Rowe) Stone ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 12:34 AM Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] Away for awhile > Solsville is one mile north of Madison -- along Oriskany Creek, close to > its > source. Not much there. Its also near Bouckville, the high point on the > old railroad that went from Utica to Binghamton. The Chenango Canal also > went > through Solsville.... and Bouckville. > > Jim > ************************************************************* > > > In a message dated 3/2/2008 9:15:44 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > O.K. I'll bite. Where's Solsville? > > On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 11:34 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> I broke out from Solsville and went 3000 miles.... and stayed! >> Jim >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> In a message dated 3/2/2008 6:42:20 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> sounds like the people in Solsville need to break out a little- LOL- >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Charles Page" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> >> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 10:14 AM >> Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] Away for awhile >> >> >> > People who lived in Solsville, even for a short time, don't make > messes. >> > Chas >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "JCB" <[email protected]> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> >> > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 5:15 AM >> > Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] Away for awhile >> > >> > >> >> >> Hey all >> >> >> >> Is he gone yet? ;-) >> >> >> >> Hopefully we can make a mess of this place while he's gone... >> >> >> >> Best to all >> >> John >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the >> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> >> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1306 - Release Date: > 3/1/2008 >> >> 5:41 PM >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the >> body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. >> > (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ >> 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and > the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the > body of the message > > > > > > **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. > (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ > 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

When I grew up near Solsville, Hotel Solsville was known as "The Bloody Bucket" due to frequent fighting by those with too much to drink. After I left, it went respectable. No connection between the two events, though. Don't know about the fish fry or the Irish Pub. I do, however, recollect a recent advertisement in the on-line edition of the Mid-York Weekly. You might check that, if you are really interested. Jim ********************************************* In a message dated 3/3/2008 6:51:39 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Jim Been a while since I went to Solsville. Do they still have their Fish Fry? and the Irish Pub? at Hotel Solsville. Pat R ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

George Colclough Jr. In answer to your e-mail, please check this site: http://www.fultonhistory.com This is a fantastic site with old scanned newspapers from Oswego County, Onondaga, Oneida, Cayuga, etc. When you get the site up, and enter, I always put the name I wish to search like this: "Colclough" and hit enter, and there are many. Some are in the Utica newspaper, but they are from the area you are interested in. You can try that with your Lindsley name too, altho I did not. Good luck. Dorothy Baker