Well, er you see, that is, uh, ah, it was this way, uh,........ Chas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Jaquay" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 10:55 AM Subject: [NYMADISO] Fw: Spooners > AH....... I remember that phrase Charles!!!!!!!!!! If you saw them > parked, > did that mean you and your date were around there too? Just curious. > .........Pat > > > > >> Incidentally, years ago, we used to see "spooners" in parked cars in >> isolated spot, like a dead end road behind some bushes. Hmmm... >> Chas >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.6/1317 - Release Date: 3/7/2008 > 8:15 AM > >

What a great story!? Who knows if she was a relation, I will keep this story in mind tho.? And thanks Chas for the obit on Clark.? This is such a great site, I always learn something interesting!? Sue from CT -----Original Message----- From: Dorothea Sanderson <[email protected]> To: 'Charles Page' <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 2:38 pm Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] Spooners I wrote this in response to the post from Sue in Ct. on the Spooners. This Mrs. Spooner loved to watch us come flouncing down the stairs in our cocktail dresses when we had a date. She must have been about 80 at the time. Thunderstorms just terrified her. If one came in the afternoon, she would wander the halls calling for the owner of the business who was named Florence. Florence's husband was from the Mafioso Italians from Pittsburg PA. I can tell you I probably wouldn't want to know the characters that came and went, not as guests in the house, but to visit him. Most of them came in the dead of night. Most of the guests there were old women, but occasionally a male would come for a while. Any male was in high demand, and a prime target. When one was in residence, out came the curlers and the lipstick. They would doll up, and you would find them sitting in their living room area watching TV. Otherwise when there were none in residence, they could be heard bickering and sniping at each other. This Mrs. Spooner might not have been a relative, but again she might have been. She would have been in her eighties in 1953. Dorothea ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Only if they are dirty..... ----- Original Message ----- From: "JCB" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 5:44 AM Subject: [NYMADISO] While Tim's Away... > ps - I am available to take bribes to tell you what's in the sock > drawer... > >

I wrote this in response to the post from Sue in Ct. on the Spooners. This Mrs. Spooner loved to watch us come flouncing down the stairs in our cocktail dresses when we had a date. She must have been about 80 at the time. Thunderstorms just terrified her. If one came in the afternoon, she would wander the halls calling for the owner of the business who was named Florence. Florence's husband was from the Mafioso Italians from Pittsburg PA. I can tell you I probably wouldn't want to know the characters that came and went, not as guests in the house, but to visit him. Most of them came in the dead of night. Most of the guests there were old women, but occasionally a male would come for a while. Any male was in high demand, and a prime target. When one was in residence, out came the curlers and the lipstick. They would doll up, and you would find them sitting in their living room area watching TV. Otherwise when there were none in residence, they could be heard bickering and sniping at each other. This Mrs. Spooner might not have been a relative, but again she might have been. She would have been in her eighties in 1953. Dorothea -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Charles Page Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 6:53 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] Spooners Dorothea, That would be a great story to save for your grandchildren. I like it! I can just see that old lady coming down the stairs. I suggest if you haven't already done so, that you write down your memories and save them.( as I have tried to do in recent years). I have mine on a web site and now they are being published in book form- for my children and grandchildren. Chas

AH....... I remember that phrase Charles!!!!!!!!!! If you saw them parked, did that mean you and your date were around there too? Just curious. .........Pat > Incidentally, years ago, we used to see "spooners" in parked cars in > isolated spot, like a dead end road behind some bushes. Hmmm... > Chas > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Robin, Maybe we have talked before?? The Prince Spooner in my grandmother's diary lived in 1913. His mother died in 1914. There quite a long list of Spooners mentioned. Incidentally, years ago, we used to see "spooners" in parked cars in isolated spot, like a dead end road behind some bushes. Hmmm... Chas

Dorothea, That would be a great story to save for your grandchildren. I like it! I can just see that old lady coming down the stairs. I suggest if you haven't already done so, that you write down your memories and save them.( as I have tried to do in recent years). I have mine on a web site and now they are being published in book form- for my children and grandchildren. Chas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothea Sanderson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 12:44 AM Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] Spooners >I remember in the early 1950's when I was about 24 years old when I > lived in a rooming house called the Mansion House. This was a lovely > old home in Hartford which had once belonged to the Plimpton family. > This beautiful old house must have been built in the last part of the > 1800's. The family sold it to a party who made it into a rest home on > the first two floors, and the third floor was for younger roomers. I > remember a little old lady that lived on the second floor by the name > of Mrs. Spooner. I don't know what her first name was, but she was a > sweet old lady who loved to see the young people come sweeping down > the lovely oak carved elegant wide stairway on their way out to join > their date. She always had a pleasant smile and hello even though she > didn't know people well as she was probably a victim of altzheimers. > Thunderstorms used to unnerve her terribly. This would have been > in the early fifties. I don't know if she is or was a relative, but > she was a gentle old lady but really was panicked when a storm came. > > Dorothea > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 9:02 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] Spooners > > > Hi Robin, > > I noticed that you are researching the Spooner families.? My GRX5 > grandfather was Prince Spooner (1768-1845), a deacon in the First > Baptist Church In Madison County.? He married twice, first to Ruth > Maynard?, second to Rebecca Patterson.? I have traced back to 4 > original Mayflower families through the Spooners.? Is he any relation > to you?? We might be related!? Sue in CT > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.6/1317 - Release Date: 3/7/2008 > 8:15 AM >

At 07:32 AM 3/6/2008, you wrote: >Tim Safe journeys and all that.....see you when we see you....We'll keep >those 'banners' flying and I don't know what the heck they are all >about but I'm >sure John or some other smart person will enlighten us old-timers as to what >the heck you were trying to tell us. > >Anyway....keep safe and well....until you are back with us. > >Dorothy Dorothy and all, Who knows when you'll see me. If I get the chance in the next 24-48 hours to communicate I will. There is a special place in my heart for the family from central New York. I suppose since John is in Australia he's in the light when New York is in the dark but at this point in time in this particular situation he's in the same dark as the rest of the on line family. The journey was long, somewhat rested, this adventure continues. I'm on the verge of the touch and go, when the certain becomes uncertain, the known becomes unknown and so the new adventure is about to begin. Stepping out into the unknown. Tim

I remember in the early 1950's when I was about 24 years old when I lived in a rooming house called the Mansion House. This was a lovely old home in Hartford which had once belonged to the Plimpton family. This beautiful old house must have been built in the last part of the 1800's. The family sold it to a party who made it into a rest home on the first two floors, and the third floor was for younger roomers. I remember a little old lady that lived on the second floor by the name of Mrs. Spooner. I don't know what her first name was, but she was a sweet old lady who loved to see the young people come sweeping down the lovely oak carved elegant wide stairway on their way out to join their date. She always had a pleasant smile and hello even though she didn't know people well as she was probably a victim of altzheimers. Thunderstorms used to unnerve her terribly. This would have been in the early fifties. I don't know if she is or was a relative, but she was a gentle old lady but really was panicked when a storm came. Dorothea -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 9:02 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] Spooners Hi Robin, I noticed that you are researching the Spooner families.? My GRX5 grandfather was Prince Spooner (1768-1845), a deacon in the First Baptist Church In Madison County.? He married twice, first to Ruth Maynard?, second to Rebecca Patterson.? I have traced back to 4 original Mayflower families through the Spooners.? Is he any relation to you?? We might be related!? Sue in CT ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A dear friend sent me this site, may just be a gold mine for some of us. Pat J. Research: National Archives Makes Some Passenger Arrival Records Available Online March 3, 2008 at 12:19 am · Filed under Source File, Genealogy, Resources for Educators, Archives and Special Collections, Databases, Directories, and Guides >From the announcement: For the first time, the National Archives and Records Administration has made available online more than 5.2 million records of some passengers who arrived during the last half of the 19th century at the ports of Baltimore, Boston, New Orleans, New York, and Philadelphia. The records were transcribed from original ship manifests into electronic databases by Temple University's Center for Immigration Research at The Balch Institute. Source: NARA National Archives/Passenger Lists http://www.archives.gov/press/press-releases/2008/nr08-69.html

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Hi Chas, I would be interested in the Clark obit.? One of my brick walls is Hulda Clark, born 1801 in Madison county, unknown parents.? She married Isaac Stewart, they moved to McHenry County Ill in the late 1840s.? She died there in 1862.? Thanks!? Sue in CT -----Original Message----- From: Charles Page <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 10:46 am Subject: [NYMADISO] another obit I have an obit for Richard J. Clark of Munnsville NY (one of the "stone quarry Clarks"., age 73. Some names mentioned besides Clarks are: Balzar, Duncan,Halaquist , Meeks,VanCott, Obrist, Gage. I'll send you a copy off list , if interested. Chas ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dorothea The truth is... it may have been a mistake, on my part, to post your letter. I truly don't know all the ins and outs of running this list, while Tim is away, but I did feel as though it was something that needed attention, regardless of how and where I found it. I've looked for my 5g grandfather for nearly five years, and I thought I "had it bad..." 60 years of searching, on your part, kind of puts my whining to shame, don't you think? I absolutely understand your frustration and really, where I'm concerned, you need not apologize, but I will relay it on to my wife, who certainly will accept it, by proxy, for my behavior at times... Best of luck, Dorothea John

Hi Robin, I noticed that you are researching the Spooner families.? My GRX5 grandfather was Prince Spooner (1768-1845), a deacon in the First Baptist Church In Madison County.? He married twice, first to Ruth Maynard?, second to Rebecca Patterson.? I have traced back to 4 original Mayflower families through the Spooners.? Is he any relation to you?? We might be related!? Sue in CT

Deanna, would you be able to look for a Daniel Smith in your Vermont resources? This would be a long shot for me, but he left Hadley, MA and turns up in Plainfield, NY (Otsego Co) around 1804.Thank you very much. Debbie Smith Zorach

Hello All Well... since I really can't say as though I know what I'm doing, I have to say that this is an email that deserves some attention. I found it in one of Tim's bottom drawers, way in the back, under some really smelly socks... Without further adieu... Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 4:20 PM Subject: My research for Henry Köpke >A short time ago, I wrote to the Oneida Library for further > information to Mr. Murray with whom I had had correspondence with > when he told me there was no record of Henry Köpke in Oneida > directories. I wrote back and said that according to Ancestry there > was indeed a record and noted their source. He later wrote back that > they had found the record and that it had been misfiled under other > records and thanked me for bringing the information to his attention. > > > Recently, I wrote him again asking if the library could be of any > additional help in my search with any other records they might have. > > > Today, I received a note from another person by the name of Klein that > shouldn't have, but did upset me terribly. Perhaps I am unjust, but I > was upset. His first sentence said that his forte was tracing down > information held within many vintage federal records. > > He then quoted me all the information that I already know such as the > 1917 draft registration record of which I have a copy, and that the > record stated that he was born in Albany. He further opined that I > should check with Albany. He also included a copy of the passenger > list of a man of the same name who came in on the Werra. My > grandfather came in on the Ems. He further included census records for > 1920 and 193o and told me Dad live in Manchester in the 1942. I > know, I lived there too. HE ended up with that he hoped his > information opened up new avenues to me, and if I had any questions to > not to hesitate to contact him. > > Am I overreacting to be angry? > > Dorothea > > > > >

Hi I saw many attempts to work on this line. I feel that all should be recognized and appreciated. Original Information was limited and much effort had to be put into looking for an answer. Let's appreciate all the help that is volunteer. Pat R

I'm sure we all agree with you John. No apology needed. However, we might want to have your wife's email address if things get out of hand. hee-hee-hee. Tink At 05:04 PM 3/7/2008, you wrote: >Dorothea > >The truth is... it may have been a mistake, on my part, to post your letter. >I truly don't know all the ins and outs of running this list, while Tim is >away, but I did feel as though it was something that needed attention, >regardless of how and where I found it. > >I've looked for my 5g grandfather for nearly five years, and I thought I >"had it bad..." 60 years of searching, on your part, kind of puts my >whining to shame, don't you think? I absolutely understand your frustration >and really, where I'm concerned, you need not apologize, but I will relay it >on to my wife, who certainly will accept it, by proxy, for my behavior at >times... > >Best of luck, Dorothea >John > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you for writing, but had I not gone off as we say Half Cocked, I wouldn't have had to apologize. It is my behavior I have to worry about not someone elses. This list has been very good to me, and if I can be forgiven so can you. Just put that epistle back with the smelly socks where it belongs. Dorothea On 3/7/2008 5:04:40 PM, JCB ([email protected]) wrote: > Dorothea > > The truth is... it may have been a mistake, on my part, to post your > letter. > I truly > don't know all the ins and outs of running this list, while Tim is > away, but I did feel as though it was something that needed attention, > regardless of how and where I found it. > > I've > looked for my 5g grandfather for nearly five years, and I thought I > "had it bad..." 60 years of searching, on your part, kind of puts my > whining to shame, > don't you think? I absolutely understand your frustration > and really, where I'm > concerned, you need not apologize, but I will relay it > on to my wife, who certainly will accept it, by proxy, for my behavior at > > times... > > Best of luck, Dorothea > John > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYMADISO- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message

You are absolutely right, and I have written a very humble apology. I have no excuse. Frustration, maybe, but not anger with anyone. I have been searching for his birth record for over sixty years, but it is no excuse for anger. Now I need to apologize to this list for firing before thinking it through. Humbly, Dorothea On 3/7/2008 12:45:54 PM, Tink Miller ([email protected]) wrote: > Why in the world would you be angry at someone > who obviously spent a great deal of time trying > to help you. Clearly he > didn't know what > information you already have. He went out of his > way to an extraordinary degree in an effort to > fill in the gaps and give you some new leads to > explore. You owe him a big thank you. > > Tink