Listers, FYI: "Tree Talks" are mainly "abstracts of pre 1850 records...contributed by CNYGS (Central New York Genealogical Society) members. These include County Surrogate records, i.e. wills and court appointed estate administrators; 1850 Mortality Schedule, person dying in year ending 1 June 1850; church, cemetery and newspaper reportings, births, deaths and marriages. NO census records included in my Herkimer County packet. Some federal and state census records ARE FOR SALE. Check at their site. I will sell my Herkimer County packet for $20, or trade it for the Lewis County packet. Contact me at my email address. Thank you!! johnson