If wishes were horses all beggars could ride If horse doodoo was biscuits we'd all be supplied. Jack ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Frank O'Neil" <[email protected]> Reply-To: "Frank O'Neil" <[email protected]>, [email protected] Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 08:57:38 -0400 (EDT) >If dreams and wishes were horses, beggars would ride. > >-----Original Message----- >>From: Al White <[email protected]> >>Sent: Apr 28, 2007 7:41 AM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [NYLEWIS] please post >> >>Can't help but we used that (honyoks) around Pittsford, NY as well. Al >> >>Al White >>[email protected] >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >________________________________________ >PeoplePC Online >A better way to Internet >http://www.peoplepc.com > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I think that it was a deragatory term relating to the Hungarians. I used to hear it bandied about in Lowville in the 40s. The Hungarians used to have a big doing in the Greig area occasionally.--Fritz ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

If dreams and wishes were horses, beggars would ride. -----Original Message----- >From: Al White <[email protected]> >Sent: Apr 28, 2007 7:41 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [NYLEWIS] please post > >Can't help but we used that (honyoks) around Pittsford, NY as well. Al > >Al White >[email protected] > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

Can't help but we used that (honyoks) around Pittsford, NY as well. Al Al White [email protected]

Does anyone know the origin of the word "hon yoks"?? My dad used to call us that when we were kids but I don't remember ever asking him what it meant or where it came from. I asked a lady at work and she grew up on a farm and remembers hearing that as a playful nickname, too. Can anyone help? Linda

I have to agree with dave.. I dont want to offend anyone, but I sign up for the posts on genealogy not on other things-- if i want other things i can go to lists for recipes, old folk songs etc... I'm sorry but it seems that if the list is so quiet all we need is a roll call, or some people from NY- LEWIS Co to post old obits , cemetery transcriptions even if only one or two,or land records or other such for the benefit of the whole list.or, as I am sending, a re-query and alittle info on some native sons of lewis co NY... if anyone needs names of the sons born there and other info please email me! I am still looking for the parents of Joseph Crandal b 1794 and also the parents of Mary Clarke, b. 1800 father probably an Asa clarke. Mary clarke and Joseph were married in c.1824 in lewis co, and some sons were born there. the thing that is interesting about the boys born there is that they all except one (who was unable to serve cuz he had a limp from an accident at 8 yrs old falling off a barn roof) were in the civil war union and one even died in the battle of chickamauga ga...Are there any good records in lewis co from that era? thank you list. gloria On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 01:00:33 -0600 [email protected] writes: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: NYLEWIS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 97 (Dave Singer) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 21:05:40 -0700 > From: "Dave Singer" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [NYLEWIS] NYLEWIS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 97 > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > What has does this have to do with genealogy research?? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:00 AM > Subject: NYLEWIS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 97 > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: More "Old Sayings" (Lois Everard) > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:45:26 -0500 > > From: "Lois Everard" <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [NYLEWIS] More "Old Sayings" > > To: <[email protected]> > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > > reply-type=original > > > > Perhaps all have been partying too much as our ancestors did in > the old > > days. Remember our grandparents knew what wine and whiskey could > do for a > > long spring nap. "Snooz" is the word. > > > > Ken > > > > Subject: Re: [NYLEWIS] More "Old Sayings" > > > > > >> Ken, > >> I've been wondering where everyone's been too! > >> Mary > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Ken Everard" <[email protected]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 7:32 PM > >> Subject: [NYLEWIS] More "Old Sayings" > >> > >> > >>> Is everyone awake yet from the their early spring nap? > >>> > >>> Here are a few more old wise sayings that some of you may > remember. See > >>> below. More will follow in a few days. > >>> > >>> Ken in NJ > >>> > >>> 1. A Friend in need is a friend indeed. (James Ray 1678) > >>> > >>> 2. A grudge is a heavy thing to carry. (unknown) > >>> > >>> 3. A house divided cannot stand. (Bible, Mathew 1225) > >>> > >>> 4. A man is known by the company he keeps. (M. Coverdale, > 1541) > >>> > >>> 5. A man who desires revenge should dig two graves. > (unknown) > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > >>> quotes > >>> in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> No virus found in this incoming message. > >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >>> Version: 7.5.463 / Virus Database: 269.5.10/774 - Release Date: > > >>> 4/23/2007 > >>> 5:26 PM > >>> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > To contact the NYLEWIS list administrator, send an email to > > [email protected] > > > > To post a message to the NYLEWIS mailing list, send an email to > > [email protected] > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] > > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and > the body > > of the > > email with no additional text. > > > > > > End of NYLEWIS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 97 > > ************************************** > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the NYLEWIS list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the NYLEWIS mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of NYLEWIS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 98 > ************************************** > >

Not much, but why not let them have their fun? My delete key is a handy way to avoid anything I'm not interested in. GMF We welcome every honest immigrant... provided he leaves off his former nationality and becomes an American... Teddy Roosevelt -- "Dave Singer" <[email protected]> wrote: What has does this have to do with genealogy research?? ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:00 AM Subject: NYLEWIS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 97 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: More "Old Sayings" (Lois Everard) > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------

What has does this have to do with genealogy research?? ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:00 AM Subject: NYLEWIS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 97 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: More "Old Sayings" (Lois Everard) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:45:26 -0500 > From: "Lois Everard" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [NYLEWIS] More "Old Sayings" > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Perhaps all have been partying too much as our ancestors did in the old > days. Remember our grandparents knew what wine and whiskey could do for a > long spring nap. "Snooz" is the word. > > Ken > > Subject: Re: [NYLEWIS] More "Old Sayings" > > >> Ken, >> I've been wondering where everyone's been too! >> Mary >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ken Everard" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 7:32 PM >> Subject: [NYLEWIS] More "Old Sayings" >> >> >>> Is everyone awake yet from the their early spring nap? >>> >>> Here are a few more old wise sayings that some of you may remember. See >>> below. More will follow in a few days. >>> >>> Ken in NJ >>> >>> 1. A Friend in need is a friend indeed. (James Ray 1678) >>> >>> 2. A grudge is a heavy thing to carry. (unknown) >>> >>> 3. A house divided cannot stand. (Bible, Mathew 1225) >>> >>> 4. A man is known by the company he keeps. (M. Coverdale, 1541) >>> >>> 5. A man who desires revenge should dig two graves. (unknown) >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.5.463 / Virus Database: 269.5.10/774 - Release Date: >>> 4/23/2007 >>> 5:26 PM >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the NYLEWIS list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the NYLEWIS mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of NYLEWIS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 97 > **************************************

Perhaps all have been partying too much as our ancestors did in the old days. Remember our grandparents knew what wine and whiskey could do for a long spring nap. "Snooz" is the word. Ken Subject: Re: [NYLEWIS] More "Old Sayings" > Ken, > I've been wondering where everyone's been too! > Mary > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ken Everard" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 7:32 PM > Subject: [NYLEWIS] More "Old Sayings" > > >> Is everyone awake yet from the their early spring nap? >> >> Here are a few more old wise sayings that some of you may remember. See >> below. More will follow in a few days. >> >> Ken in NJ >> >> 1. A Friend in need is a friend indeed. (James Ray 1678) >> >> 2. A grudge is a heavy thing to carry. (unknown) >> >> 3. A house divided cannot stand. (Bible, Mathew 1225) >> >> 4. A man is known by the company he keeps. (M. Coverdale, 1541) >> >> 5. A man who desires revenge should dig two graves. (unknown) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.463 / Virus Database: 269.5.10/774 - Release Date: 4/23/2007 >> 5:26 PM >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Ken, I've been wondering where everyone's been too! Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Everard" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 7:32 PM Subject: [NYLEWIS] More "Old Sayings" > Is everyone awake yet from the their early spring nap? > > Here are a few more old wise sayings that some of you may remember. See below. More will follow in a few days. > > Ken in NJ > > 1. A Friend in need is a friend indeed. (James Ray 1678) > > 2. A grudge is a heavy thing to carry. (unknown) > > 3. A house divided cannot stand. (Bible, Mathew 1225) > > 4. A man is known by the company he keeps. (M. Coverdale, 1541) > > 5. A man who desires revenge should dig two graves. (unknown) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.463 / Virus Database: 269.5.10/774 - Release Date: 4/23/2007 5:26 PM >

Is everyone awake yet from the their early spring nap? Here are a few more old wise sayings that some of you may remember. See below. More will follow in a few days. Ken in NJ 1. A Friend in need is a friend indeed. (James Ray 1678) 2. A grudge is a heavy thing to carry. (unknown) 3. A house divided cannot stand. (Bible, Mathew 1225) 4. A man is known by the company he keeps. (M. Coverdale, 1541) 5. A man who desires revenge should dig two graves. (unknown)

I saw this on ebay- maybe someone is interested in this- Item number: 130097509184 1870 BIBLE CARTHAGE NY BOONVILLE ADIRONDACK THOMAS NAST UP FOR AUCTION IS AN ANTIQUE 1870 FAMILY BIBLE(VICTORIAN ERA). HITCHCOCK'S NEW AND COMPLETE ANALYSIS OF THE HOLY BIBLE: OR, THE WHOLE OF THE OLD AND NEW TEASTAMENTS ARRANGED ACCORDING TO SUBJECTS IN TWENTY-SEVEN BOOKS. ON THE BASIS OF MATTHEW TALBOT, AS IMPROVED WITH INDEXES, TABLES, AND OTHER VALUABLE MATTER BY NATHANIEL WEST,DD. ILLUSTRATED WITH STEEL PLATE ENGRAVINGS AND MAPS. THE ENGRAVINGS ARE FROM ORIGINAL DRAWINGS BY THE CELEBRATED ARTISTS, THOMAS NAST AND F.B. CARPENTER. TOGETHER WITH CRUDEN'S CONCORDANCE TO THE HOLY SCRIPTURES. PUBLISHED BY A.J. JOHNSON, 1870. 1159 PAGES. PAGE EDGES ARE GOLD GUILD. THERE ARE A FEW ITEMS INCLUDED WITH BIBLE, THAT WERE BETWEEN THE PAGES-------AS SEEN IN THE 15TH ATTACHED PICTURE'''''---2 HOMEMADE BOOK MARKERS, BOTH ARE WITH WEAR, A LOCKE OF HAIR, & A POEM BY REV. JOHN WAUGH). '''BINDING IS WITH PLAY'''. COVER IS WITH WEAR, FADING, SOILING, BUMPED CORNERS. OUTSIDE SPINE PIECE IS MISSING. FRONT COVER IS LOOSE, IT IS HELD ON BY STRING BINDING. BIBLE MEASURES; 11'' TALL x 8'' x 2 3/4'' THICK. OWNERS NAME ON FLYLEAF PAGE IS; FRED SPRAUGE OF CARTHAGE, NEW YORK(BOONVILLE AREA). IN THE FAMILY RECORD AREA, ARE THE FAMILY NAMES OF; SPRAUGE, BENNETT, WARNER, HARRINGTON, KNOWLES, LOOMIS, GILLETTE, COLVIN. A VERY FEW BUMPED/CREASED PAGE CORNERS. ON INSIDE FRONT & REAR COVERS & FACING PAGES, THERE IS SOME SOILING/FOXING. A FEW PAGES ARE WITH MINOR to SLIGHT PLUS SOILING/FOXING. OUTSIDE PAGE IS WITH SOME SOILING & RUBBING. A COUPLE OF SMALL PAGE EDGE TEARS

Okay, I graduated in '52. Dick ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Rich Allen, Graduated LACS 1959 ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Rich, what is your last name? Did you go to school in Lowville? Dick ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Horses? I remember when I worked for old Ray Arnold up on the Gardner Road when I was about 14. He had a pair of the darn biggest horses. I would get them harness them up and use the to takeout the manure in the wintertime. Gee - Haw as to go right and left, whoa to stop and gitty up to go.. Sure was cold spreading that stuff in the snow. Great Memories, but still damn cold. Also Had some horse at Bob Farr's farm on East Road in Lowville. He didn't use them too much. Rich ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I don't know whether it was a hobby or people were just looking for euphemisms that were easy to state without being challenged by the general populace. Dick ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Thanks Dick for your old sayings and I enjoyed your four-year old adventuresome story. I too recall the horse command to move and use it when I was young. The old sayings tend to be almost international in scope that spread around the world with many being translated into other languages. It also worked the other way around with our obtaining them from ancestors that go back into the BC area (before Christ). Nearly all countries have created them. It must have been a hobby for the bards and other writers in those by-gone days. Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 7:52 PM Subject: Re: [NYLEWIS] Old Sayings > Ken, I don't know if they are Lewis County sayings, but: > * A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. > * Any body born there knows that a small stream is a "crick", > * creek (creak) is what a rocking chairs does. > * Any cottage on a lake is a camp. I don't know how this started, > unless they > * were looked at as not being permanent and therefore, "camps". > * Being "Out in the cold" has true meaning there. > * Not being able to see your hand in front of your face had true > meaning > * during some of the snow blizzards there. > * A ridge runner or side hill gouger. I am not sure what these > terms > were > * supposed to mean, I think they referred to people living on Tug > Hill, comparing > * them to woodchucks. If not, maybe somebody can enlighten me. > * How about older than the hills? Not really Lewis County, but sure > does apply. > I remember one time, when I was about 4, a farmer came down with > his > sleigh and was delivering some items to the house across the street from > us > on Trinity Ave. He let me up on the sleigh and then stopped to make the > delivery. Well, he had already let me ride about a block and by this > time I > knew that if you went click, click with your tongue, the horses would > start up > and go ahead. Well, the farmer got off and I couldn't wait to see if I > could > make the horses go. I did very good making the sound, the horses started > up > and there was one mad farmer. I had to get off the sleigh. I may have > been > only 4, but I knew that was one mad farmer. > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Ken, I don't know if they are Lewis County sayings, but: * A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. * Any body born there knows that a small stream is a "crick", * creek (creak) is what a rocking chairs does. * Any cottage on a lake is a camp. I don't know how this started, unless they * were looked at as not being permanent and therefore, "camps". * Being "Out in the cold" has true meaning there. * Not being able to see your hand in front of your face had true meaning * during some of the snow blizzards there. * A ridge runner or side hill gouger. I am not sure what these terms were * supposed to mean, I think they referred to people living on Tug Hill, comparing * them to woodchucks. If not, maybe somebody can enlighten me. * How about older than the hills? Not really Lewis County, but sure does apply. I remember one time, when I was about 4, a farmer came down with his sleigh and was delivering some items to the house across the street from us on Trinity Ave. He let me up on the sleigh and then stopped to make the delivery. Well, he had already let me ride about a block and by this time I knew that if you went click, click with your tongue, the horses would start up and go ahead. Well, the farmer got off and I couldn't wait to see if I could make the horses go. I did very good making the sound, the horses started up and there was one mad farmer. I had to get off the sleigh. I may have been only 4, but I knew that was one mad farmer. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

With the current silence on this list, perhaps we could try another angle for looking at our genealogical and sociological past. Here are a few old sayings that many of you may recall hearing your parents, grandparents, and relatives might have expressed in the past. Below are a few that I recall and maybe you can add others to these few "sayings." * A birth in the hand is worth two in the bush. * A picture is worth a thousand words. * A miss is as good as a mile. * A man who never made a mistake never made anything * A picture is worth a thousand words. * A penny saved is a penny earned. * A penny for your thoughts. * There's no place like home. * Better late than never. * Better to ask the way than go astray Can you now add any to this list. Ken in NJ * There's no place like home.