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    1. Re: [NYLEWIS] Prussian Church West Leyden and other Churches near by
    2. Hi Need to correct the name of the Land Doners to Utz Brothers. Sorry about that. Pat R

    01/24/2008 05:34:18
    1. Re: [NYLEWIS] Prussian Church West Leyden and other Churches near by
    2. Hi My info states that the Prussian Church was built in 1861 on land donated by the Ut Brothers. I have Listings of Pastors from 1880 on listed as per follows: 1880 Rev Peter Puis 1882 Rev Hugo Khmer 1883 Rev Charter Fields 1888-1907 Rev Joseph Weaned 1907-13 Rev F M Kenny 1912-14 Rev Joseph Careened 1914-20 Rev James W Rending 1920-24 Rev Adolph's Volcano 1924-26 Rev Frederick P Divinely (In 1926 he left West Leaden and went to Constableville Church St Mary's) I have this Date as the date of fire Oct. 18th 1941 when the church caught fire from the burning of leaves and twigs being burnt nearby and it was badly damaged and after rendered unsafe. Another interesting note is that the Bell from the old Prussian Settlement Church went to the C.C.C. Camp at Williamstown, New York The new church was a frame building 40 x 80 built at a cost of approx. $10,000. and the capacity was 400 people. The first pastor 1926 Rev Francis J O'Connors (Connor's) from Malone Mohawk Hill is located in the Town of West Turin New York. It does sit on Top of the Hill just after leaving the outskirts of Constableville, NY probably approx. 1 1/2 miles. What was at one time the Hamlet of Mohawk Hill had 2 churches at one time. The RC Church being St. Michaels and they also had a Cemetery. The Cemetery Listing is at: http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/lewis/cemeteries/stmichaelscatholic.tx t?cj=1&o_xid=0002434655&o_lid=0002434655 There was also St John's Lutheran Church and Cemetery located at Mohawk Hill, New York That Listing is also on the Internet. http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/lewis/cemeteries/stjohnslutheran.txt We also have in West Leyden forming in September 12, 1856 the Reformed Protestant Church. At one time in the 1960's the old record book starting March 14, 1860 was available. I will have to check to see if that has been retained. At that time they acquired a house and land to build their church and they were also changing the Sunday school from German to the English language. Alternate German and English Services started in June 1894. The church was struck by lightning on July 9th 1914 and the spire so badly damaged it was removed. Their parsonage was built during the year 1881, but was destroyed by fire on May 16, 1929. On July 28 1936 the congregation a Church Federation was formed between the Reformed Church of West Leyden and the M.E. Church of Ava. The first Pastor of this federation was the Rev. Walter J Suits. The Cemetery on Route 26 is used by this Church known as the West Leyden Cemetery. Note: I have the List of Pastors from 1856 to 1j965 and will list them separately. In the Town of Highmarket (A Town west of Constableville) we had St Patricks RC Church which was formed in May 1879 and erected their church building in 1881 under the pastorate of Rev James A. McKenna and that church was dedicated by Father Wadham in 1884. This church was formed after the burning of the St Mary's Church in Constableville in 1879 and a division between its members occurred whereby part of them separated and organized St Patricks at Highmarket. It was a frame building and the cost was approx. $4000. In 1934 the held their j50 Anniversary and renovated their church and installed a new lighting system to replace the lamps. It was abandoned in 1944 after 63 years of service due to declining membership. At that time it wa incorporated in the St Mary's Mission Church under Constableville. It was the only Church in the Town of Highmarket and The Highmarket Town Cemetery located on Highmarket Rd. is the only Cemetery. Maple Ridge is a distance from this location being that it is in the Tn of Martinsburg and the church there was St. Patrick's and there is also a Cemetery located near where the church once stood. The Church existed from 1861 until 1941. This area has changed over the years. West Leyden was originally in Leyden and is now in the Town of Lewis which was formed from Leyden and West Turin on November 11, 1852. Leyden was formed from Steuben on March 10th 1797 before Lewis County was ever formed. It covered a huge territory and in 1802 the Town of Brownville was taken off and in 1805 the Town of Boonville was formed. In 1813 Part of what is now the Tn of Wilma was taken from Leyden and in 1821 Watson was taken off Leyden. The Town of Lewis as stated above was not removed from Leyden and W. Turin until 1852. Steuben from which Leyden formed was part of the Holland Land Company and the portion of Leyden was that part called Inman's Tract. Regards Pat R

    01/24/2008 05:27:40
    1. Re: [NYLEWIS] interest in ancestry to change the subject part II
    2. Charmaine Campany
    3. When St. Mary's was built in 1861 does anyone know who donated the land or who did the building?? I had heard a story that it was a woman with roots in Quebec, maiden name may have been Deniger/Denecia, who gave the land and her sons built it...... -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYLEWIS] interest in ancestry to change the subject part II For many years the sermons were always preached in German. Soon after Father Divinity's arrival (1924) It was decided to build a new church at West Leyden with St. Peter and St. Paul Church at Fish Creek as it's mission Church.The beautiful statues which had been placed in the church in it's early days by the faithful members ,in memory of their loved ones were taken down and carried with love and reverence to the new church in West Leyden for the dedication ceremony. Reverend Divinity did not stay to the West Leyden church finished as he was transferred to Constableville. The first mass in the new St.Mary's was celebrated Christmas Eve 1926. The reverend F. J. Connors was the first resident priest in West Leyden and through his efforts the church was finally completed. Abandon the little stone Church stood surrounded by the graves of many of it's former faithful members ,until late one afternoon in the spring of 1940 when smoke was seen coming from the roof of the church. Donald and Jerome Wilbert ,the last two people to enter the church,rushed to the church hoping to put out the fire or save some of the contents.the two men were soon driven back by the flames and smoke.In a very short time St. Mary's Church was burned to the ground. A year or two later ,the superintendent of highways for the town of Lewis,Phillip Swancott,moved the town stone crusher up to the pile of stone which once had been a beautiful little church and crushed all the stones and used them in building the nearby town road. Today a beautiful macadam road passes the little well kept cemetery which was back of the church.Road connects west Leyden to Osceola. May 30-1967 a beautiful black and brown plaque was placed on the site of the old Stone Church in the cemetery bearing this inscription: St. Mary's Church built 1861 in appreciation of a safe journey from their native land. Closed in 1926 donated by Mr. and Mrs. William Wilbert **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/24/2008 03:44:29
    1. Re: [NYLEWIS] interest in ancestry to change the subject part II
    2. Very interesting. I am trying to resolve, in my mind, why they would name two parishes the same name only about 12 miles apart. I say this because the parish in Constableville was also St. Mary's and as I told you previously there is a cemetery there yet, just past the school and over on the left hand side of the road. I have a great aunt and her 9 year old son that were buried there. There is a John Dunn next to her (Ellen Dunn Doody, wife of Owen Doody), who I think was her father, but I don't know that. Dick **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

    01/24/2008 02:51:43
    1. Re: [NYLEWIS] interest in ancestry to change the subject part II
    2. the road to Osceola between West Leyden and Osceola.....The cemetery is called St. Mary's...the original alter to the church stands to the left in the cemetery **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

    01/24/2008 02:25:34
    1. Re: [NYLEWIS] interest in ancestry to change the subject. Part 1.
    2. Prussiansettlement church was built in 1861 did i miss a key?...sorry **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

    01/24/2008 02:23:07
    1. Re: [NYLEWIS] interest in ancestry to change the subject part II
    2. Again very interesting. What road is this plaque on? Dick **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

    01/23/2008 10:34:29
    1. Re: [NYLEWIS] interest in ancestry to change the subject. Part 1.
    2. Your article on the Prussian Settlement is very interesting. I think there is a typo though, where you say the church building was started in 1981, I think it should state 1881. I think everyone would realize that, but for accuracy sake, it should be correct. Also, it doesn't state where Mohawk Hill was, but isn't that the hill on the main route between Constableville and West Leyden, just as you leave Constableville? And Constableville has a cemetery named St. Mary's. Could they be related? I had Irish ancestors that came to the US in 1847. I know they lived in Boonville first, then Leyden (Port Leyden) and then purchased land from relatives of Constable. I say purchased because the Martinsburg Town records show them paying taxes to the Town in 1855. The land was on Maple Ridge and they built a church there in the late 1800's. I believe the land was purchased on consignment because if you look at the record of ownership, in the Lewis County Court House, the land did not transfer for 20 years or more. I think our Irish ancestors were brought to Lewis County by the need for laborers for the Black River Canal, which was started about the same time and completed about the same time they purchased land on Tug Hill, at Maple Ridge. If anyone could throw more light on this, I would appreciate it. I believe that church was also named St. Mary's. I think it burned to the ground in 1941 and it was at Maple Ridge, in front of where the cemetery is today. The old stone steps are still there. Thank you very much for the article. Dick **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

    01/23/2008 10:31:52
    1. Re: [NYLEWIS] NYLEWIS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 28
    2. Karen Dwyer
    3. That was a beautiful story about St. Mary's church. [email protected] wrote: Today's Topics: 1. Re: interest in ancestry ([email protected]) 2. Re: NYLEWIS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 27 ([email protected]) 3. Re: interest in ancestry to change the subject. Part 1. ([email protected]) 4. Re: interest in ancestry to change the subject part II ([email protected]) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 19:01:37 EST From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYLEWIS] interest in ancestry To: [email protected] Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" AMEN Administrator. Way to take charge. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:10:45 EST From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYLEWIS] NYLEWIS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 27 To: [email protected] Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I am always terrified of lists which send to the list when "reply" is pressed. There is an option that your administrator can exercise that will "reply" to the sender, not to the whole list. It avoids embarrassment. I have done it on all the lists I administer. Jim Patrick **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 23:27:39 EST From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYLEWIS] interest in ancestry to change the subject. Part 1. To: [email protected] Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I don't know where the Boonville Herald got this writing from but thought it would be interesting to read. Boonville Herald circa 1970 PRUSSIAN SETTLEMENTS "STONE CHURCH" BECOMES ST. MARY'S In 1859 a little sailing vessel was trying to desperately cross the Atlantic to bring it's cargo of human beings to the land of opportunity. Storm after storm struck the little ship until one night ,all aboard were certain they would never see another sunrise. Aboard were some Prussian Catholics who at the height of the storm dropped to their knees and promised God that if He brought them safe to the shores of America,they would build a church with their own hands and dedicate it to the Blessed Virgin Mary. By morning the storm had subsided and in time the storm battered vessel arrived in the New York Harbor. The little group of Germans finally made their way to the little Hamlet of West Leyden,where some had friends or relatives who had settled there a year or two before. At this time West Leyden was still surrounded by dense forest .Finally most of the newcomers settled at Prussian Settlement which is about 3 miles west of West Leyden.The settlers worked long and hard clearing the land and building shelters and buildings to protect themselves from the animals and the weather. By 1981 the settlers were ready to build their promised church.The Urtz brothers donated the lot where the church was built. The stones were taken from the nearby fields. The cost of building this church was comparatively small as all the materials and labor were donated as they promised that night aboard the storm tossed ship.The pews were made of black ash lumber donated by John Wilbert. Their building fund consisted of between $13.00 and $16.00, the most they ever had at one time. Remembering their church in the native Fatherland,they built it as nearly like it was possible. The pews where the women sat during services were on the left and all the men sat on the right side. In the choir loft were seats for 40 men as no women were allowed upstairs.The organ was in the center of the choir loft with a pew directly in back of it where the choir members sat. The church had a seating capacity for 150 people. Ludwig ( Louis?) Urtz was the leader of this building committee .Across the road from the church were large horse sheds where the horses were tied during services. The first baptism was that of Elizabeth Uerz(Urtz) daughter of John and Elizabeth Deutsch Uerz .She was baptized by Father Leopold Moarygember O.M.C.V of the Black Order of the Franciscans. There was no resident priest ,but the church was served by pastors from Mohawk Hill where the Germans built St. Michael's Church and convent several years earlier. Mohawk Hill was 12 miles from Prussian Settlement. St. Mary's was called the Stone Mission Church of Mohawk Hill. In spring and fall the road was almost impassable. During the winter storms the pastors could not always get to the church for mass on Sundays. In several instances when someone died in the winter months,the body was placed on a sled and men wallowed through the drifts to get to West Leyden. Priests who served St. Mary's from Mohawk Hill were: Reverends: Peter Maly 1861 Kircher Feledis 1883-1888 Odinus Vogt 1862 Joseph Weiand 1888 1907 Ladislaus Ferelingberg 1864-1867 F. M. Kinney 1907-1913 Clemlins Lintz 1870-1873 W. Creedon 1913-1914 M Orth 1873-1877 James Rinsing 1914-1920 Mondy Camillus 1877-1880 Adolphus Vollmar 1920-1924 Peter Pius 1880-1882 F. P Divinity 1924-1926 (church closed) Hugo Kumer 1882-1883 **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 23:48:10 EST From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYLEWIS] interest in ancestry to change the subject part II To: [email protected] Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" For many years the sermons were always preached in German. Soon after Father Divinity's arrival (1924) It was decided to build a new church at West Leyden with St. Peter and St. Paul Church at Fish Creek as it's mission Church.The beautiful statues which had been placed in the church in it's early days by the faithful members ,in memory of their loved ones were taken down and carried with love and reverence to the new church in West Leyden for the dedication ceremony. Reverend Divinity did not stay to the West Leyden church finished as he was transferred to Constableville. The first mass in the new St.Mary's was celebrated Christmas Eve 1926. The reverend F. J. Connors was the first resident priest in West Leyden and through his efforts the church was finally completed. Abandon the little stone Church stood surrounded by the graves of many of it's former faithful members ,until late one afternoon in the spring of 1940 when smoke was seen coming from the roof of the church. Donald and Jerome Wilbert ,the last two people to enter the church,rushed to the church hoping to put out the fire or save some of the contents.the two men were soon driven back by the flames and smoke.In a very short time St. Mary's Church was burned to the ground. A year or two later ,the superintendent of highways for the town of Lewis,Phillip Swancott,moved the town stone crusher up to the pile of stone which once had been a beautiful little church and crushed all the stones and used them in building the nearby town road. Today a beautiful macadam road passes the little well kept cemetery which was back of the church.Road connects west Leyden to Osceola. May 30-1967 a beautiful black and brown plaque was placed on the site of the old Stone Church in the cemetery bearing this inscription: St. Mary's Church built 1861 in appreciation of a safe journey from their native land. Closed in 1926 donated by Mr. and Mrs. William Wilbert **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ------------------------------ To contact the NYLEWIS list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the NYLEWIS mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. 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    01/23/2008 09:46:09
    1. Re: [NYLEWIS] interest in ancestry to change the subject part II
    2. For many years the sermons were always preached in German. Soon after Father Divinity's arrival (1924) It was decided to build a new church at West Leyden with St. Peter and St. Paul Church at Fish Creek as it's mission Church.The beautiful statues which had been placed in the church in it's early days by the faithful members ,in memory of their loved ones were taken down and carried with love and reverence to the new church in West Leyden for the dedication ceremony. Reverend Divinity did not stay to the West Leyden church finished as he was transferred to Constableville. The first mass in the new St.Mary's was celebrated Christmas Eve 1926. The reverend F. J. Connors was the first resident priest in West Leyden and through his efforts the church was finally completed. Abandon the little stone Church stood surrounded by the graves of many of it's former faithful members ,until late one afternoon in the spring of 1940 when smoke was seen coming from the roof of the church. Donald and Jerome Wilbert ,the last two people to enter the church,rushed to the church hoping to put out the fire or save some of the contents.the two men were soon driven back by the flames and smoke.In a very short time St. Mary's Church was burned to the ground. A year or two later ,the superintendent of highways for the town of Lewis,Phillip Swancott,moved the town stone crusher up to the pile of stone which once had been a beautiful little church and crushed all the stones and used them in building the nearby town road. Today a beautiful macadam road passes the little well kept cemetery which was back of the church.Road connects west Leyden to Osceola. May 30-1967 a beautiful black and brown plaque was placed on the site of the old Stone Church in the cemetery bearing this inscription: St. Mary's Church built 1861 in appreciation of a safe journey from their native land. Closed in 1926 donated by Mr. and Mrs. William Wilbert **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

    01/23/2008 04:48:10
    1. Re: [NYLEWIS] interest in ancestry to change the subject. Part 1.
    2. I don't know where the Boonville Herald got this writing from but thought it would be interesting to read. Boonville Herald circa 1970 PRUSSIAN SETTLEMENTS "STONE CHURCH" BECOMES ST. MARY'S In 1859 a little sailing vessel was trying to desperately cross the Atlantic to bring it's cargo of human beings to the land of opportunity. Storm after storm struck the little ship until one night ,all aboard were certain they would never see another sunrise. Aboard were some Prussian Catholics who at the height of the storm dropped to their knees and promised God that if He brought them safe to the shores of America,they would build a church with their own hands and dedicate it to the Blessed Virgin Mary. By morning the storm had subsided and in time the storm battered vessel arrived in the New York Harbor. The little group of Germans finally made their way to the little Hamlet of West Leyden,where some had friends or relatives who had settled there a year or two before. At this time West Leyden was still surrounded by dense forest .Finally most of the newcomers settled at Prussian Settlement which is about 3 miles west of West Leyden.The settlers worked long and hard clearing the land and building shelters and buildings to protect themselves from the animals and the weather. By 1981 the settlers were ready to build their promised church.The Urtz brothers donated the lot where the church was built. The stones were taken from the nearby fields. The cost of building this church was comparatively small as all the materials and labor were donated as they promised that night aboard the storm tossed ship.The pews were made of black ash lumber donated by John Wilbert. Their building fund consisted of between $13.00 and $16.00, the most they ever had at one time. Remembering their church in the native Fatherland,they built it as nearly like it was possible. The pews where the women sat during services were on the left and all the men sat on the right side. In the choir loft were seats for 40 men as no women were allowed upstairs.The organ was in the center of the choir loft with a pew directly in back of it where the choir members sat. The church had a seating capacity for 150 people. Ludwig ( Louis?) Urtz was the leader of this building committee .Across the road from the church were large horse sheds where the horses were tied during services. The first baptism was that of Elizabeth Uerz(Urtz) daughter of John and Elizabeth Deutsch Uerz .She was baptized by Father Leopold Moarygember O.M.C.V of the Black Order of the Franciscans. There was no resident priest ,but the church was served by pastors from Mohawk Hill where the Germans built St. Michael's Church and convent several years earlier. Mohawk Hill was 12 miles from Prussian Settlement. St. Mary's was called the Stone Mission Church of Mohawk Hill. In spring and fall the road was almost impassable. During the winter storms the pastors could not always get to the church for mass on Sundays. In several instances when someone died in the winter months,the body was placed on a sled and men wallowed through the drifts to get to West Leyden. Priests who served St. Mary's from Mohawk Hill were: Reverends: Peter Maly 1861 Kircher Feledis 1883-1888 Odinus Vogt 1862 Joseph Weiand 1888 1907 Ladislaus Ferelingberg 1864-1867 F. M. Kinney 1907-1913 Clemlins Lintz 1870-1873 W. Creedon 1913-1914 M Orth 1873-1877 James Rinsing 1914-1920 Mondy Camillus 1877-1880 Adolphus Vollmar 1920-1924 Peter Pius 1880-1882 F. P Divinity 1924-1926 (church closed) Hugo Kumer 1882-1883 **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

    01/23/2008 04:27:39
    1. Re: [NYLEWIS] interest in ancestry
    2. GMF
    3. Mr. Terrell- Don't you think your composition was a trifle long? And why not show us all the courtesy of addressing personal admonition privately? Thanks. PS Sending this thru the List since all have seen your admonitory email. GMF A Pearl is a Garment of Patience That Enclosed an Annoyance -- [email protected] wrote: First of all Mr. Everard....what are you .....some English teacher or something? a grammar specialist?Dignity?...ignorant?...where do YOU get off calling anyone ignorant?..so the person forgot to capitalize their article. What's the big deal...you remind me of the bookworms I met in High School and College, Thought they were better than the lower intellectuals. If you need capitals to know when a sentence finishes and a new one starts? Something's wrong..what do you care so long as you can understand what they wrote......we're here to learn the history and founding of Lewis County and what made it what it is today. Who really cares how it is presented so long as the message gets through. I'm sure the other readers of this list have no problems reading NON capitalized sentences...My ancestors played a great part in Lewis County as the article I plan to present soon as I type it in.If I should miss a capital so what?....sue me...I type quite well with 4 fingers and don't care if you like it or not..DON'T READ IT ..maybe you need to pick up a new hobby like going to the library for your Lewis County info instead of making a big deal of other peoples mistakes on this list.....if you insist on adding info you know of Lewis County that's fine....be of Historic help ....like all the others on here ...but to possibly make someone feel bad because YOU didn't like the way they presented it.......... Michael S. Terrell 2nd Urtz/Wilbert Family Genealogist & Family Historian **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________________________ We wrote the book on custom book binding. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2121/fc/Ioyw6i3m62b6dp8nCK6SwYpdwQIfagdHMF7zx1yDXMc8uPVlX1DkZV/

    01/23/2008 03:17:05
    1. Re: [NYLEWIS] interest in ancestry
    2. GMF
    3. It came to me?? I agree that constructive advice should be sent privately and not thru the List. I assume this was an error in that it came to me. GMF A Pearl is a Garment of Patience That Enclosed an Annoyance -- "Ken Everard" <[email protected]> wrote: Good English is always necessary, otherwise it makes you look ignorant to a limited extent. Hold your dignity high, don't degrade it. It takes very little effort to make a capital letter. Note that I am not sending this to everyone; it's just you. > unbelievable..now there's a grammar specialist on the list..the point was > not to impress anyone..the point was what they believed in and what was > important to them...if one needs capitals in order to understand a > communique....well.....................................nevermind.... > > > _____________________________________________________________ All of your favorite as seen on tv products are just a click away! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2121/fc/Ioyw6i3nTjV3NmTUk8ni2HHzqsqnoHrMqpu6EsRWBhKtE4UMm49NXt/

    01/23/2008 03:10:56
    1. Re: [NYLEWIS] NYLEWIS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 27
    2. I am always terrified of lists which send to the list when "reply" is pressed. There is an option that your administrator can exercise that will "reply" to the sender, not to the whole list. It avoids embarrassment. I have done it on all the lists I administer. Jim Patrick **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

    01/23/2008 02:10:45
    1. Re: [NYLEWIS] interest in ancestry
    2. leanne barrington
    3. Hi. I keep trying, but can't figure how to write my own questions for Lewis, Ny on rootsweb. If you or any other readers can send me the proper address, I would appreciate it very much. When I write to the [email protected], It always comes back as failed attempt to deliver. Anyway, I am looking for information on the Flint families in Lewis, Lowville and surrounding areas....around the 1860's with my great great grandfather, Phillip Flint and Mary Ann Turple Flint who had 7 children....Sorry to you, who wrote to this and I am using your message space...Please advise the correct address to post. Thank you, Annie -----Original Message----- From: Ken Everard Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 12:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYLEWIS] interest in ancestry Good English is always necessary, otherwise it makes you look ignorant to a limited extent. Hold your dignity high, don't degrade it. It takes very little effort to make a capital letter. Note that I am not sending this to everyone; it's just you. > unbelievable..now there's a grammar specialist on the list..the point was > not to impress anyone..the point was what they believed in and what was > important to them...if one needs capitals in order to understand a > communique....well.....................................nevermind.... > > > > **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes > (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/23/2008 01:24:43
    1. Re: [NYLEWIS] interest in ancestry
    2. AMEN Administrator. Way to take charge. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

    01/23/2008 12:01:37
    1. Re: [NYLEWIS] interest in ancestry
    2. Jana Cortez
    3. This topic is closed. I don't want to see any further emails regarding it. Let's get back to the topic of genealogy and not chastising one another. If you have any further comments with the running of this list and my request, please send them to me personally. If this continues, I will be moderating the list. List Administrator

    01/23/2008 11:57:59
    1. Re: [NYLEWIS] interest in ancestry
    2. Lois Everard
    3. I thought I had sent it to her privately. Ken > Mr. Terrell- > Don't you think your composition was a trifle long? And why not show us > all the courtesy of addressing personal admonition privately? > Thanks. > > PS Sending this thru the List since all have seen your admonitory email. > > > GMF > A Pearl is a Garment of > Patience That Enclosed > an Annoyance > > > -- [email protected] wrote: > First of all Mr. Everard....what are you .....some English teacher or > something? a grammar specialist?Dignity?...ignorant?...where do YOU get > off calling > anyone ignorant?..so the person forgot to capitalize their article. > What's > the big deal...you remind me of the bookworms I met in High School and > College, Thought they were better than the lower intellectuals. If you > need > capitals to know when a sentence finishes and a new one starts? > Something's > wrong..what do you care so long as you can understand what they > wrote......we're here > to learn the history and founding of Lewis County and what made it what > it > is today. Who really cares how it is presented so long as the message > gets > through. I'm sure the other readers of this list have no problems > reading NON > capitalized sentences...My ancestors played a great part in Lewis County > as > the article I plan to present soon as I type it in.If I should miss a > capital > so what?....sue me...I type quite well with 4 fingers and don't care if > you > like it or not..DON'T READ IT ..maybe you need to pick up a new hobby > like > going to the library for your Lewis County info instead of making a big > deal of > other peoples mistakes on this list.....if you insist on adding info you > know of Lewis County that's fine....be of Historic help ....like all the > others > on here ...but to possibly make someone feel bad because YOU didn't like > the > way they presented it.......... > > Michael S. Terrell > > 2nd Urtz/Wilbert Family Genealogist > > & > > Family Historian > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _____________________________________________________________ > We wrote the book on custom book binding. Click now! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2121/fc/Ioyw6i3m62b6dp8nCK6SwYpdwQIfagdHMF7zx1yDXMc8uPVlX1DkZV/ > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    01/23/2008 11:52:02
    1. Re: [NYLEWIS] interest in ancestry
    2. Lois Everard
    3. My heart weaps for you. > First of all Mr. Everard....what are you .....some English teacher or > something? a grammar specialist?Dignity?...ignorant?...where do YOU get > off calling > anyone ignorant?..so the person forgot to capitalize their article. > What's > the big deal...you remind me of the bookworms I met in High School and > College, Thought they were better than the lower intellectuals. If you > need > capitals to know when a sentence finishes and a new one starts? > Something's > wrong..what do you care so long as you can understand what they > wrote......we're here > to learn the history and founding of Lewis County and what made it what > it > is today. Who really cares how it is presented so long as the message > gets > through. I'm sure the other readers of this list have no problems > reading NON > capitalized sentences...My ancestors played a great part in Lewis County > as > the article I plan to present soon as I type it in.If I should miss a > capital > so what?....sue me...I type quite well with 4 fingers and don't care if > you > like it or not..DON'T READ IT ..maybe you need to pick up a new hobby > like > going to the library for your Lewis County info instead of making a big > deal of > other peoples mistakes on this list.....if you insist on adding info you > know of Lewis County that's fine....be of Historic help ....like all the > others > on here ...but to possibly make someone feel bad because YOU didn't like > the > way they presented it.......... > > Michael S. Terrell > > 2nd Urtz/Wilbert Family Genealogist > > & > > Family Historian > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    01/23/2008 11:45:42
    1. Re: [NYLEWIS] interest in ancestry
    2. First of all Mr. Everard....what are you .....some English teacher or something? a grammar specialist?Dignity?...ignorant?...where do YOU get off calling anyone ignorant?..so the person forgot to capitalize their article. What's the big deal...you remind me of the bookworms I met in High School and College, Thought they were better than the lower intellectuals. If you need capitals to know when a sentence finishes and a new one starts? Something's wrong..what do you care so long as you can understand what they wrote......we're here to learn the history and founding of Lewis County and what made it what it is today. Who really cares how it is presented so long as the message gets through. I'm sure the other readers of this list have no problems reading NON capitalized sentences...My ancestors played a great part in Lewis County as the article I plan to present soon as I type it in.If I should miss a capital so what?....sue me...I type quite well with 4 fingers and don't care if you like it or not..DON'T READ IT ..maybe you need to pick up a new hobby like going to the library for your Lewis County info instead of making a big deal of other peoples mistakes on this list.....if you insist on adding info you know of Lewis County that's fine....be of Historic help ....like all the others on here ...but to possibly make someone feel bad because YOU didn't like the way they presented it.......... Michael S. Terrell 2nd Urtz/Wilbert Family Genealogist & Family Historian **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

    01/23/2008 09:43:29