Marriage Index: New York #2, 1740s-1880s William P. Back (Buck) Spouse: Susanna W. Gowdy Marriage Date: Mar 12, 1844 The following source has been recorded for this marriage: NORTHERN JOURNAL, LOWVILLE The following additional information has been recorded for this marriage: HE'S OF LOWVILLE;SHE'S OF MARTINSBURGH This couple had one child I know of for certain. Charles Mortimer BACK (BUCK) b: 23 Aug 1845 Lewis Co., NY Does anyone have any clue as to the family of William BACK/BUCK? Happy to share & do lookups on my new NY marriage CD #2 1740s-1800s, Dianna

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I have bid on this item. If I am successful in getting it, I will review it and then donate it to the Lewis County Historical Society or someother source where it will be accessible. If anyone has suggestions of another place to donate it, I would like to know. Diane Ryan -----Original Message----- From: Poor House Lady <phlady@jump.net> To: NYLEWIS-L@rootsweb.com <NYLEWIS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, August 18, 2001 3:38 PM Subject: [NYLEWIS] POORHOUSE Information >PUBLIC NOTICE: I sincerely hope that someone with an interest in the local >history of Lewis County will consider rescuing the old poorhouse documents >which are currently up for sale on eBay at >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1179452810 > >On my website, The POORHOUSE STORY (a clearinghouse for information about >19th century American poorhouses)at http://www.poorhousestory.com we have >posted a lot of information about the LEWIS County poorhouse on the Lewis >County page at http://www.poorhousestory.com/LEWIS.htm > >I have NO connection with that auction. But I hate to see the authentic >records (and those up for bid look authentic) lost to the public. I don't >know what might be in those many papers (and I doubt the seller does) -- but >I know from experience that there may be real "jewels" in there. Since my >website is national in scope and totally non-commercial, I do not have the >resources myself to purchase these types of documents when they come up for >sale. But I am hoping someone local does! > >It usually takes far too much time to get any appropriate library or archive >to act in such situations. This is when one of those many private "lights" >must be relied upon. > > >We would be happy to work with whoever purchases the lot of papers so that >they can be presented on our website to share with the public. > >Sincerely, >Linda Crannell >(aka=The Poorhouse Lady) > > >==== NYLEWIS Mailing List ==== >List Mom for Lewis County, NY is Jan Cortez. My email is cristian@netonecom.net. If you have any concerns, send me a note, otherwise enjoy the list and post often. It helps get your message out. > >============================== >Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! >http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > >

Dear Listmembers, It appears with preliminary research that there are two groups of BACK families. One with roots in France and the other in Connecticut. Our descendancy is through Susan A. GOWDY, daughter of Samuel GOWDY and Nancy Ann WADSWORTH who are also from CT. All we know for certain, is that our Nancy had three children by a man whose surname is BACK. Their children are Effie BACK b: ca 1842 m: Frank KITTS (another Lewis Co., family) William BACK b: ca 1844 Charles Mortimer BACK b: 1845 m: Bertha M. RUSK Susan apparently named two of her children after siblings or others in the GOWDY family (Charles & Effie) It is our feeling that our Susan married a member of the BACK family from CT, perhaps a son of Elisha BACK. These families are known to have lived in Martinsburgh & Lowville, Lewis Co., NY. Known members of the Lewis County BACK family on censuses: Henry BACK 1820, 1830 Lowville John BACK 1850 Lowville Elisha BACK 1840, 1850, 1860 Lowville Elizabeth BACK 1850 Lowville Susan <Gowdy> BACK age 26 1850 Martinsburgh Harlo BACK age 35 1860 Leyden Flora BACK age 21 1860 Leyden The 1835 State census lists these men who may also all be BACK family members: 1835 census Lowville, Lewis, NY Back, Henry (next door to Daniel T. Buck) Buck, Charles Buck, Daniel T. Buck, John Buck, Solomon Bush, Walter A marriage license for Susan A. GOWDY to the unk BACK would be fantastic, but any help is very welcome. Many thanks, Dianna Anderson

Brain dosn't allways work when typing deaths may have been caused by Influensa.I will see what I find. Jack Ken and Lois Everard wrote: > This message sounds as if it will only involve Lewis County but it involves Norther New York. Hear my "brick wall" tale. One of my possible ancestors is named Gilbert Everard and may have been a brother or otherwise related to my great grandfather, Christopher Everard. Gilbert landed and settled in the Belfort area of Croghan Township in Lewis County during the 1840s. While I have found him in several census reports, there is no other evidence of consequence. > > Today I learned that it is possible he died of the Bubonic Plague, otherwise called Black Death. A friend said that there is, or was, a gravesite near Jerden Falls which contains the bodies of those who died of it sometime during the 1800s. The bodies may have been put into a mass grave quickly so as to avoid spreading the disease. The site had a wooden cross erected and a fence surrounded it. Later the property was obtained by the power company that erected power lines from Massena to Utica. The State of NY apparently approved of the power line that ran across the gravesite. Little or no evidence now remains of it according to a friend who lives in Jerden Falls. > > Apparently there is an historic tour of Jerden Falls in the spring before the leaves come on that describes the town during its tannery heydays and the gravesite is pointed out. Is anyone familiar with the site or can someone provide general information about the tour or about the history of the gravesite? Which state office would one most likely want to contact? How would I determine what power line company now owns the lines and might have some > history of the gravesite? As you can see, this opens a Pandora's box. This is also a box needing opening because there is no death record available anywhere on my possible relative. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Finally, do any of you have stories about Black Death in the families you are or have searched whether you are in Oneida, Herkimer, or other northern New York county? > > Ken Everard (in NJ) > everardl@voicenet.com > > ==== NYLEWIS Mailing List ==== > List Mom for Lewis County, NY is Jan Cortez. My email is cristian@netonecom.net. If you have any concerns, send me a note, otherwise enjoy the list and post often. It helps get your message out. > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog

Contact the Village of Harisville Historian. There is a new museum open in the depot at Harisville N. Y..they took a trip to Jerden early in the fall. A man I once worked with told me his mother remembered her father mowing the cemetery with a hand scythe but did not know the location. I believe one of her younger brothers does know where the graves are located. Supposedly they are on the other side of the falls from the tannery under the wires of the Power authority of the State of New York. There is a wheeler trail through the cemetery. I believe you can drive nearly to the site. My wife did not want me to put her mini van over the road as it looked bad to her.The man that mowed the cemetery was a Chartrand he bought the land after the tannery closed and later sold to the State. Jack Ken and Lois Everard wrote: > This message sounds as if it will only involve Lewis County but it involves Norther New York. Hear my "brick wall" tale. One of my possible ancestors is named Gilbert Everard and may have been a brother or otherwise related to my great grandfather, Christopher Everard. Gilbert landed and settled in the Belfort area of Croghan Township in Lewis County during the 1840s. While I have found him in several census reports, there is no other evidence of consequence. > > Today I learned that it is possible he died of the Bubonic Plague, otherwise called Black Death. A friend said that there is, or was, a gravesite near Jerden Falls which contains the bodies of those who died of it sometime during the 1800s. The bodies may have been put into a mass grave quickly so as to avoid spreading the disease. The site had a wooden cross erected and a fence surrounded it. Later the property was obtained by the power company that erected power lines from Massena to Utica. The State of NY apparently approved of the power line that ran across the gravesite. Little or no evidence now remains of it according to a friend who lives in Jerden Falls. > > Apparently there is an historic tour of Jerden Falls in the spring before the leaves come on that describes the town during its tannery heydays and the gravesite is pointed out. Is anyone familiar with the site or can someone provide general information about the tour or about the history of the gravesite? Which state office would one most likely want to contact? How would I determine what power line company now owns the lines and might have some > history of the gravesite? As you can see, this opens a Pandora's box. This is also a box needing opening because there is no death record available anywhere on my possible relative. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Finally, do any of you have stories about Black Death in the families you are or have searched whether you are in Oneida, Herkimer, or other northern New York county? > > Ken Everard (in NJ) > everardl@voicenet.com > > ==== NYLEWIS Mailing List ==== > List Mom for Lewis County, NY is Jan Cortez. My email is cristian@netonecom.net. If you have any concerns, send me a note, otherwise enjoy the list and post often. It helps get your message out. > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog

ken: if you find out anythunk on jerden falla would you please let me know? my gr gr gr grandmother came from that area-mary bellinger wright(mrs. jay c wright).sincerely bea boprey ogdensburg ny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken and Lois Everard" <everardl@voicenet.com> To: <NYLEWIS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 4:30 PM Subject: [NYLEWIS] Black Death in Northern New York > > > This message sounds as if it will only involve Lewis County but it involves Norther New York. Hear my "brick wall" tale. One of my possible ancestors is named Gilbert Everard and may have been a brother or otherwise related to my great grandfather, Christopher Everard. Gilbert landed and settled in the Belfort area of Croghan Township in Lewis County during the 1840s. While I have found him in several census reports, there is no other evidence of consequence. > > Today I learned that it is possible he died of the Bubonic Plague, otherwise called Black Death. A friend said that there is, or was, a gravesite near Jerden Falls which contains the bodies of those who died of it sometime during the 1800s. The bodies may have been put into a mass grave quickly so as to avoid spreading the disease. The site had a wooden cross erected and a fence surrounded it. Later the property was obtained by the power company that erected power lines from Massena to Utica. The State of NY apparently approved of the power line that ran across the gravesite. Little or no evidence now remains of it according to a friend who lives in Jerden Falls. > > Apparently there is an historic tour of Jerden Falls in the spring before the leaves come on that describes the town during its tannery heydays and the gravesite is pointed out. Is anyone familiar with the site or can someone provide general information about the tour or about the history of the gravesite? Which state office would one most likely want to contact? How would I determine what power line company now owns the lines and might have some > history of the gravesite? As you can see, this opens a Pandora's box. This is also a box needing opening because there is no death record available anywhere on my possible relative. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Finally, do any of you have stories about Black Death in the families you are or have searched whether you are in Oneida, Herkimer, or other northern New York county? > > Ken Everard (in NJ) > everardl@voicenet.com > > > ==== NYLEWIS Mailing List ==== > List Mom for Lewis County, NY is Jan Cortez. My email is cristian@netonecom.net. If you have any concerns, send me a note, otherwise enjoy the list and post often. It helps get your message out. > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > >

This message sounds as if it will only involve Lewis County but it involves Norther New York. Hear my "brick wall" tale. One of my possible ancestors is named Gilbert Everard and may have been a brother or otherwise related to my great grandfather, Christopher Everard. Gilbert landed and settled in the Belfort area of Croghan Township in Lewis County during the 1840s. While I have found him in several census reports, there is no other evidence of consequence. Today I learned that it is possible he died of the Bubonic Plague, otherwise called Black Death. A friend said that there is, or was, a gravesite near Jerden Falls which contains the bodies of those who died of it sometime during the 1800s. The bodies may have been put into a mass grave quickly so as to avoid spreading the disease. The site had a wooden cross erected and a fence surrounded it. Later the property was obtained by the power company that erected power lines from Massena to Utica. The State of NY apparently approved of the power line that ran across the gravesite. Little or no evidence now remains of it according to a friend who lives in Jerden Falls. Apparently there is an historic tour of Jerden Falls in the spring before the leaves come on that describes the town during its tannery heydays and the gravesite is pointed out. Is anyone familiar with the site or can someone provide general information about the tour or about the history of the gravesite? Which state office would one most likely want to contact? How would I determine what power line company now owns the lines and might have some history of the gravesite? As you can see, this opens a Pandora's box. This is also a box needing opening because there is no death record available anywhere on my possible relative. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Finally, do any of you have stories about Black Death in the families you are or have searched whether you are in Oneida, Herkimer, or other northern New York county? Ken Everard (in NJ) everardl@voicenet.com

This might explain where all our ancestors went? Linda

This is in response to an inquiry by Tom and Diane Marshall. Yes, I certainly can identify the McIntyres you found in Harrisburg, Lewis Co. My gggrandfather, John McIntyre was born in County Londonderry, Ireland about 1808. He and my gggrandmother, Mary Rice, came to America as young adults, settled in Harrisburg, Lewis County and raised seven children. Their children were John b. 24 August 1835 (my ggrandfather), William b. about 1837, James b. about 1839, Margaret b. about 1841, David b. about 1843, Thomas Archibald b. about 1845 and Allen b. 29 March 1848. Of these siblings, I have extensive information on the descendants of John and a little on the others. If you desire, I could send you , by e-mail direct to your address, a descendant report on the elder John. Lee Harris

I have found some Mcintyres in Harrisburg, Lewis Co. Dist 3 (map, nylewis/harrisburg) there are two J. McIntyres (probably John) and a W. McIntyre. Can anyone help me identify these people? I am looking for John McIntyre who died in Lewis Co. married to Anne Moor/Moore. His son Oliver had a daughter Christian and a son John. Christian is my 3x gr gandmother married Elisha Morgan Woodard, Jefferson Co. Chrisitian died in Barnes Corners (wonder who is she was living with at the ripe old age of 91), buried in Champion Cemetery with her husband. Thanks for any help. Enjoy all the chit chat going back and forth. Very interesting! Diane Marshall TMarshall1@cfl.rr.com

Greetings Lewisites (Is that an acceptable word or should it be Lewisonians or something else?) Two weeks ago I spent a few half days at the Lewis County Historical Society and found loads of information for a number of families that I have been searching. For example, there are family group sheets for my great aunt Catherine (Everard) LaChausse. In addition, there were obituaries taken from the Lewis County newspapers, histories of the county, etc. While you won't find census and birth reports, you should stop here for missing puzzle solvers in your genealogical searches that might not be available elsewhere. In particular, here are three directories that helped me that might provide you with new dimensions to your own tree, only one of which was available in my nearby New York Public Library: Lowville, Croghan and Beaver Falls Directory--1913 compiled and published by Calkin-Kelly Directory Co., Binghamton, NY. In this I found three surname families related to my kin: Bintz, Henry, and Tiss. The listings provided the wife's maiden name, street, occupation and business. I verified my great Aunt Julia who married Isidore Tiss who lived on Mechanic Street in Croghan. American Agriculturist Farm Directory and Reference Book of Jefferson & Lewis Counties, New York--1918. A subheading: A Rural Directory and Reference Book Including a Road Map of Jefferson and Lewis Counties. Published by Orange Judd Company, New York, Minneapolis, Chicago, and Springfield, Mass. 1918. Here I found my grandfather, Frank N. Everard. Provided was his wife's first name, that he was a dairy farmer with 125 acres, a postal address (Route 1, Castorland, NY), located in the township of New Bremen. I also found a neighbor, Joseph Ebersol. Business Directory of Lewis County, N.Y. with a Map--1895-96. Compiled and published by William Adams, Lowville, NY. Printer: J.P. Fralick, Pringter, 99 and 100 Wieting Block, Syracuse, NY. Here again I found family surnames, neighbors, friends of the family, and businesses. This directory included many individuals with their occupations including farms and businesses. For example, my great Uncle John Augustine Everard is listed as a bookkeeper working for A. Basselin & Son and his postal address as Croghan. My message is that the Gould Mansion in Lyons Falls is a great resource. We should all be grateful to Lisa Becker, County Historian, who works in a crowded room with thousands of records and numerous requests from walk-ins like me, telephone callers, and those who want a tour of the colorful antiquated but sophisticated mansion. Even though she is underpaid, overworked, and required to perform unrelated functions, she is a valuable resource. There was no one who entered who was not provided with nearly immediate assistance. Lucky in Lewis. Ken Everard (in NJ)

I am looking for the "date of death" and/or the whereabouts of the "Will" of Catharine (Hawn/Hahn) PATTEN/PATTON. It should be between 1889 when her brother included her in his will and 1905 when an Executor's Deed was recorded at the office of the Herkimer County (NY) Clerk. The grantor on that deed reads, "John S. TWINING of Copenhagen, NY, Executor of the last Will and Testament of Catharine PATTEN, dec'd." Her pertinent information is as follows: Name: Catharine M. (HAWN/HAHN) PATTEN/PETTEN Spouse: Abram PATTEN/PETTEN Birth: 22 AUG 1810, German Flats, Herkimer, NY Death: 1889-1905 Father: Johann "Adam" HAWN/HAHN (1775-1856) Mother: Catharine MOYER (1778-~1862) Marr: 31 JAN 1827, Minden, Montgomery, NY, Children: Robert (1828-1888) Caroline (1831-1849) Mary E. (Adopted) (1848-?) Thank you for whatever help you may provide, Carlyn

Hi List, I was wondering if anyone could do a marriage certificate lookup for me. My Great Grandparents were married Sept. 25, 1894 at St. Stephen's Church in Croghan. Their names were John Edward McMulkin & Josephine Back. I'm trying to find out exactly where in East Canada John is from. I know he crossed the boarder April 12 1882 at Ogdensburg, New York. I would appreciate any information you can give me. Thank you in advance, Betty Collins

Newly Formed Society Seeks to Preserve Historic Church in Watson Please join in helping to preserve one of the Watson areas historic and architecturally significant landmarks, the Pine Grove Community Church. The Pine Grove Commmunity Church Preservation Society, Inc. is looking for people who have skills and materials that can help to refurbish the structure. One goal is a perpetual care fund so any donations are appreciated. Membership to the newly formed organization is available by contacting any of the following interim trustees: John Kozik; Chuck Bunke, Town of Watson Historian;Clayton Bailey, or Lisa Becker, County Historian. Some history: The little church at the crossroads, known as the Pine Grove Union Church was built by Lucian Rumble, a local caretaker. Rumble also acted as the architect for the church. The design of the interior was copied from a little theater Rumble had once seen. Building was started in 1896 at a cost of about $134.00. The organ was purchased from the Baptists of Lowville who were acquiring a bigger one for their newly built church. The shop work was done by Frank Tisse of New Bremen. The chairs and lamps were donated by Rev. John Strong of Turin. The chairs and pulpit were given by Mrs. Wormwood, and Mrs. Hill. In 1900 Amasa Stoddard gave a used furnace. A bell was purchased in 1905 and new steps were added. Electric lights were installed in 1937. Mrs. Charles Wetmore, church secretary, kept these records during the first 40 years. The church is known for its unusual interior, seats are arranged on a sloping floor as in a theater, necessitating cutting off the rear legs a bit. Accordingly, to enter, one must walk to the front of the church to climb the slope up to one's seat. It has been pointed out that "everyone" would know if you were late for church. Bowen's History of Lewis County indicates that, " in 1895 a Union Church was established in Pine Grove, after Mrs.Addie Wetmore and Mrs. Edna (Beach) Quinn had been instrumental in raising funds for it. According to its charter it was to be available for any religious group to use. Dedication services were to be held August 15, 1896."

X-Sender: stuh@mail.localnet.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Message-ID: <a05010400b7cc5e039174@[207.251.216.135]> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 22:55:14 -0400 Reply-To: Stuart Hotchkiss <stuh@LOCALNET.COM> Sender: "A genealogy list for New York state." <NEWYORK-ROOTS-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU> From: Stuart Hotchkiss <stuh@LOCALNET.COM> Subject: [NEWYORK] Lest We Forget To: NEWYORK-ROOTS-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 Today my wife and I were documenting a town cemetery for our local historical society. One of the graves was that of Elias Potter, a Civil War veteran who died of war wounds on 6 April 1867 at the age of 31. We could not help but be poignantly reminded of the many, many brave firemen, police and other volunteers who gave their lives last Tuesday when we read the epithet on Elias' stone written 134 years ago: "The noblest place for man to die is where he dies for man."

Diane and others: Might the Lewis County Historical Society accept these records? Ken Everard >I did bid on and win the Lewis Co. Poor House materials. It is not,however, >what I expected. It does not list the people who were residents in teh poor >house. Instead it contains the business records of the running of the Poor >House, bills and receipts to the various suppliers in the area and also >bills to the various towns for services rendered to the residents of the >towns. I am now trying to decide what is teh best thing to do with it. I >have offered it to Linda Crannell, the Poor House lady, but she has not >replied to my email as yet, so I do not know if she is interested. It is >generally more of historic interest rather than genealogic interest. > >Diane Ryan > > >==== NYLEWIS Mailing List ==== >List Mom for Lewis County, NY is Jan Cortez. My email is cristian@netonecom.net. If you have any concerns, send me a note, otherwise enjoy the list and post often. It helps get your message out. > >============================== >Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! >http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > >

Where Brave Men Sleep New book copyright 2001 112 pages- photos Records and burial sites of Lewis County, NY Civil War soldiers. Includes out of county burial sites, soldiers who died during the Civil War, enlistees from Lewis County, Village of Lowville and Village of Copenhagen Civil War Monument names. Over 2,600 veterans listed. Also a story by John Dutton, a Town of Croghan Civil War veteran, who deserted the British Army in Canada and crossed to New York State where he joined the 18th New York Cavalry. Available from author Charles C. Shaw, PO Box 407, Croghan, NY 13327 $17 plus $3.50 shipping

Hi Betty: I do not know if we have corresponded before, but I too am connected to the Back's. See my web page: http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/r/y/a/Diane-J-Ryan/?Welcome=99436 3755 If you look at ancestors of Jennie Bardo, you will find information on the Bach or Back family. It is the same family as Peter Back's family. Best regards, Diane -----Original Message----- From: CJaneman@aol.com <CJaneman@aol.com> To: NYLEWIS-L@rootsweb.com <NYLEWIS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 9:50 PM Subject: [NYLEWIS] Justices of the Peace 2 >Hi List, > >Sorry for the last message. My fingers have a mind of thier own sometimes. > >I was wondering if anyone could tell me where I would go to look up information about Justices of the Peace in Croghan. I've been told that my gg grandfather Peter Back was a Justice of the Peace & I'm heading up to Croghan this week to do some research & would love to find out some information about Peter. > >Thanks in advance, >Betty Collins > > >==== NYLEWIS Mailing List ==== >List Mom for Lewis County, NY is Jan Cortez. My email is cristian@netonecom.net. If you have any concerns, send me a note, otherwise enjoy the list and post often. It helps get your message out. > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

Hi all, I have been scanning and uploading many documents of Elijah Woolworth II 1775-1829. This is a work in progress. You can find them at http://www.thewoolworths.com/Papers/Documents.html Elijah was a laborer in Turin, Lewis County, New York and I have scanned his account book. There are 14 pages and it starts in April 1808. There are lists of work he done for people and some lists of weather. If you recognize any of the names, please let me know. I would also like to know why the letters Dr are next to the names! Also if you see something misspelled please let me know. Some of his words are hard to read. http://www.thewoolworths.com/Papers/Elijah'sacctbk.html Also if I misspell a name please let me know Erastus Hodskins Dr 1804 paid by Wm Card Jr $061 1/2 Chals Davenport Dr paid by Wm Card 56/0 Jonathan Ball Dr two one two quart bottle 3//6 by Wm Cards Book August 15th 1808 sold low took b___ Sept 11th Bed _____ Sept 10th pied this section was hard to read http://www.thewoolworths.com/Papers/Elijah'sacctbk1.html 1. April 18, 1808 Justus Woolworth had of Elijah Woolworth ten dollars twenty nine cents and fifty cents sent him $10.79 to apply to our land 2. May 10th L. Woolworth by one dollar cash $1.00 and 5 shillings 3. Justus Woolworth by one dollar cash 4. Heman Hilman by 14 lb salt 5. Benjamin Hilman June 11th 1808 to five days and one fourth work by myself at 9/per day $5.90 to five and a half day work by a Martin Dewey at 3/6 $2.40 Kathy Camp www.thewoolworths.com