Thank you, Charmaine for sharing the "lost villages" message that was a result of the expansion of Fort Drum. The web sites will be added to my list. It may interest readers to know a personal family story related to what was then called Pine Camp and now Fort Drum. This story starts at River Bank where we lived. It was near the end of WW Two that my father as usual got into his car after breakfast to head for work at the Climax Mfg. Co. in Castorland. Within a mile he saw a person standing along side the road and he stopped. The man got in and simply said "Naumburg." My father tried to engage him in conversation but there was no response. In Naumburg my father let him out. Someone in the village saw the man and noticed the clothing he wore and called the police. When my father returned home that evening, he learned that his passenger was a prisoner of war with a big POW on the back of his shirt. My mother believed that he may have slept in our attic that night because she had heard unfamiliar sounds. Pine Camp did have a POW compound on its base. Perhaps others can add to the story or have related stories to share. Ken

Jefferson County NY wrote: > Bid of history to lighten the day. > > In 1941 the United States Army faced the need for additional training > areas and Fort Drum Pine Plains was the areas chosen for expansion. > > At only 17,000 acres, the post needed additional space for training > the units stationed there. > > On Labor Day, September 1, 1941 the army took over 84,000 acres, displacing > North Country families and eliminating the villages of LaRaysville, > > Sterlingville, Lewisburg, North Wilna and Woods Mills, as well as smaller > settlements of Slocumville, Reedville, Nauvoo, Spragueville, East Antwerp > and Alpina. East Antwerp lost one-third of its property taxes. Leray > lost a quarter, Philadelphia a third and part of Diana disappeared > altogether. > > The two thousand people would be forced to relocated from 525 families, > > three thousand buildings would be removed, including 24 schools, 6 churches > and a couple post offices. They would be paid "fair market" value for > their land and would be relocated by the New York Defense Relocation > Corporation > under the Farm Security Administration. > > On October 19, 2002, the Town of Watertown Historical Society > TWHS@imcnet.net , and > the Jefferson County Historical Society sponsored a "A Step Back In Time" > with a tour of these forgotten towns an village on Fort Drum. The Fort Drum > Cultural Resources Office, guided us through the areas. > > As we walked over the old village streets and visited the cemeteries, > you could see a few tears in the eye of many who had not been back to their > birth place in over 60 years. Everything's gone now, just as few old > foundation remain. > > Interesting military history shows that a larger number of men from > Sterlingville enlisted to fight in WWII. > > Lynn Thornton has created the following site. He has done a beautiful > job. http://wc4th.homestead.com/Lostvillages.html > > The trip was inspired by the newly released book on Sterlingville by > Keitha Kellogg Petersen. Both historical society have copies of the book for > sale. Copies can be mailed. > > Copies can also be found in the local book stores in Jefferson County > NY, and at your local library. > > The burials and tombstone readings form the ft drum cemeteries will be > online for research in the near > future at www.nnygenealogy.com > > Bonita L Shafer > Jefferson NYGenExchange County Coordinator > http://www.genexchange.org/county.cfm?State=ny&County=jefferson > Maryland State Coordinator,Genexchange > http://www.genexchange.org/state.cfm?state=md > American History & Genealogy Project > http://www.nnygenealogy.com > > xx > > ----- > List Admin - nyjefferson-rooters-Owner@listserv.genexchange.com > Jefferson NY GenExchange: http://www.genexchange.org/county.cfm?state=NY&county=Jefferson > NY GenExchange: http://www.genexchange.org/state.cfm?state=NY > USGenExchange: http://www.genexchange.org/us.cfm > Mailing Lists: http://www.genexchange.org/maillistform.cfm

I have many picture negatives left by my father who was big on photography. Many have to do with ancestors from before and after the turn of the century. A regular flat bed scanner will not do much for the image, as negatives require a light source above the item. I have had very good success by putting a light box (used for tracing etc) over the negative on the scanner and scanning normally. Most photo/image programs will allow you to invert (make a positive) and then you can adjust brightness/contrast etc to get the best results. I also purchased a scanner for 35mm slides and negatives, which does a good job. I am sure I am not the first person to come up with this but just thought it might help someone. Al White alwhite@comcast.net

Greetings All Last week my wife and I returned from a visit to France where half the vacation was spent searching for ancestors in Lorraine, specifically in the Moselle district (Dept. 57). Many Lewis County surnames kept popping up in the records as I searched for my great grandparents: Anne-Marie (Fouchs) Everard and Christopher Everard. Our first stop was at the Archives Department in the city of Metz that has old original records. It was a delight to see hard copy rather than microfilm. While I could not find the birth of my great grandfather on microfilm at our local LDS center, he showed up clearly on the same original document. Now I have the birth records for Christophe, Nicolas, and Appoline Evrard. In addition, I know who my great great paternal grandparents were. Ditto for my great grandmother. In retrospect, I might have gained more information if I had visited the mairie offices of the villages of my ancestors first. The more rewarding part of the expedition was the village visitations. With a rented Renault shift car, we drove to St. Avold (west of Metz) and stayed at a Novotel Hotel just off the A4 route that is a type of pay interstate road. From there we found the small village of Laning and the clerk found the records of my great grandmother. Right across the street was the Catholic Church where we spotted many names. Most bodies are cremated today and the gravestones beside the church were large and made of granite, with plenty of flowers. Based on this one can conclude that if you are wealthy you need not be cremated. The young helpful priest is going to obtain more information for us about the Fox, Streiff, Kirch, and other ancestral connections to my family. The village is like most other surrounding villages, including Grostenquin where the Theodore Basselin family came from. Most villages have a population of perhaps 300 to 700 and most are located within a mile of each other. Laning had nearly 600 people. You won't find a post card representing the village, and the post office is open on certain days for limited hours. This is agricultural country although many people work in St. Avold that is a small to medium sized city with plenty of bustle. The people are friendly and willing to help when you get lost! >From the St. Avold area we found Sarrebourg and headed south to the village of Nitting where my great grandfather came from. There are only about four streets with the church dominating the center of the village, which is typically the case. The mairie's office was helpful and patient as the clerk found records. The very old records, however, are in Metz! We visited the church but the priest serves more than one community and was unavailable. This cemetery also carried familiar surname. No Evrards had gravestones. Again those that existed would have been somewhat wealthy. We met one such person with whom we chatted on the street. He provided the names of the people who emigrated to America during the mid-1800s and had included my great grandparents' brothers and sister. His parents are buried in the cemetery. We now have another French friend and I know the house number of Christopher Everard and his kin. If you visit "your" village, be sure to go the surroundin! g small villages. You may well expect to find ancestors there. Near Nitting is a village named Lorquin where my great great aunt married and I believe returned there from Lewis County at some point, perhaps when her husband joined the Civil War as a soldier. I've wandered to the point of perhaps making our web master unhappy. To her I extend my apology. Ken Everard everardl@voicenet.com

I'm researching my G-Grandmother, Caroline Amelia (Johnson) Williams, b March 8, 1844 (Lewis County - Lowville?), d July 1, 1910, Pulaski, NY (buried Richland Cemetery, Richland, NY. Married: David Wright Williams of Sandy Creek, NY. Daughter of David Johnson and Caroline (Roberts) Johnson. Also seeking any information as to a possible Johnson Family Reunion, family historian in the Lewis County area. Thank You! Bob Langford andricv@bellsouth.net

Hi Everyone I found this on another site and felt that it was important enough to send on: This is one most used Genealogy Libraries and many of us plan trips to research there. Please pass this information on so that everyone will be aware of this. Regards Pat R Closing Date Announcement Genealogy Department of the Allen County Public Library, Fort Wayne, Indiana - -------------------------------------- The Historical Genealogy Department of the Allen County Public Library will close for relocation on Saturday, December 14, 2002 at 6pm. The department will remain closed through the month of January 2003. This is to allow time to move all our materials to our interim location. The current building will be going through renovation and expansion. ------------------------------- Will materials be available? ------------------------------- All our research materials will be available up until Saturday, December 14 at 6pm. At that time the department will be closed so we can move all our materials to our interim location. When the library opens at that location, we will have all our books, microforms and periodicals ready for research. ------------------------------ Why will we be closed? ----------------------------- Closing the department will allow us to move the whole collection at once instead of doing it piecemeal. This will ensure that the materials you are coming to Fort Wayne to use for your research will be available when you arrive, offering the full collection for our researchers. If we moved pockets of materials, what you needed for your research might not be available. By moving the whole collection at once it will ensure that the materials you are interested in will be available until we close on December 14th, and when we reopen in late January 2003. ---------------------------------------- Where will the interim location be? ---------------------------------------- The interim location of the Allen County Public Library will be at 200 East Berry St., Fort Wayne, Indiana. Locally, it is called Renaissance Square. It is 5 blocks to the east from the current library. There will be limited free parking available; there is also a pay parking garage across the street and more than 150 metered spaces in close proximity. ---------------------------------------- What will the interim location be like? --------------------------------------- One of the most exciting things about our interim location is that the genealogy collection will be a browsing collection. All the materials will be out and available for the researcher to retrieve them. Materials will not have to be paged; the shelves will be open. ---------------------------- How long will we be in the interim location? -------------------------- The projected time frame is 2-3 years. ------------------------- How can I find out more information? ------------------------- Visiting the library web site http://www.acpl.lib.in.us or phoning the department at 260-421-1225 is the best way to get current relocation information. This is a very exciting time for all of us, librarians and researchers alike. Our goal is to keep our patrons informed and continue to offer the highest level of customer service possible now, in our interim location, and in our newly renovated library. For further contact, please phone the department or email Curt Witcher, Manager, Historical Genealogy Department-ACPL at cwitcher@acpl.lib.in.us or Susan Kaufman Tavenner, Librarian, Historical Genealogy Department-ACPL at skaufman@acpl.lib.in.us

The phone number for the Erwin Library in Boonville NY is 315-942-4834.

Hello Here is the site that will take you to a number of newspapers that could have had an event, article or vital in this time span. There were several papers in Lewis County published during this time, The Watertown Daily Times which has always covered Lewis County Items and the Rome Daily Sentinel which also covered the area. All in addition to the Boonville Paper previously stated. www.nysl.nysed.gov/nysnp/ Black River Democrat. OCLC: #20289805 Published: 19uu-1943 Frequency: Weekly Microfilm: sm={1913:1:11-1914:4:16} {1914:5:7-12:17} {1915:1:7-1916:11:23, 12:28} {1917:2:8, 3:8-29, 5:17-24, 6:14-12:20} {1918:2:21, 4:4,18, 5:2-6:13, 7:4-9:26, 10:10- 12:26} {1919:1:2-6:12,26-7:17, 8:7-28, 9:18, 10:9-16, 11:27, 12:18} {1920:2:19, 4:22, 7:15, 8:12} {1921:11:3, 12:15} {1922:1:12, 2:9, 3:23, 4:6-6:22, 7:20} {1923:5:10, 10:14} {1924:7:3} {1925:1:1, 6:25, 12:31} {1928:9:13} {1929:1:3-7:25, 9:5-12:26} {1930:1:2-2:27, 3:13-5:29, 6:12-9:25, 11:6-27} {1931:1:8-12:31} s={1932:1:7-1943:7:1} Call number: NY 59 Lowville 93-32411 Journal and Republican (Lowville, N.Y. : 1929) OCLC: #29298095 Published: 1929-9999 Frequency: Weekly Microfilm: s={1929:7:25-1985:12:25} Call number: NY 59 Lowville 93-31899 The Journal and Republican and Lowville times. OCLC: #29298094 Published: 1909-1929 Frequency: Weekly Microfilm: s={1909:4:29-1925:3:26} {1925:6:4-1929:7:18} Call number: NY 59 Lowville 93-31899 The Lowville herald and Lewis County Democrat. OCLC: #11250104 Published: 1910-19uu Frequency: Weekly Microfilm: s={1910:9:8-11:18, 12:1-9,23} {1911:1:6-1914:12:3} Call number: NY 59 Lowville 93-31901 Rome daily sentinel (Rome, N.Y. : 1881) OCLC: #10097723 Published: 1881-1976 Frequency: Daily Microfilm: s={1882:12:11-1976:5:4} Call number: NY 62 Rome 93-32211 Watertown daily times (Watertown, N.Y. : 1895) OCLC: #11531531 Published: 189u-9999 Frequency: Daily Microfilm: s={1895:3:14- Call number: NY 57 Watertown 93-32308 Watertown herald (Watertown, N.Y. : 1886) OCLC: #11896992 Published: 1886-191u Frequency: Weekly Microfilm: sm={1886:12:25} Call number: D 15, 3-5

The telephone number and address are below. <A HREF="http://ypng.infospace.com/_1_3KO5UUH03ZYGDCE__info.anywho/ypv3/detail.htm?qb=&recid=0003006945&xmlurl=http%3A%2F%2Fyp111.superpages.com%2Fxml%2Fdetail.phtml%3FT%3Dboonville%26N%3Dboonville%2Bherald%26PG%3DL%26R%3DN%26SRC%3DInfospace%26S%3DNY%26AL%3D%26MC%3D%26map.x%3D212%26map.y%3D125%26level%3D8%26lat%3D0434901%26lng%3D-0753246%26POI1lat%3D0434901%26POI1lng%3D-0753246%26POI1name%3DBoonville%2BHerald%26streetaddress%3D%26city%3DBoonville%26state%3DNY%26zip%3D13309%26LID%3D0003006945%26LS%3D%26display%3D1%26AD%3D%26GV%3D0%26GL%3D%26FN%3D%26PP%3D%26CID%3D&kcfg=ypus&ypinsp=0&searchtype=all&fromform=qsearch&qn=boonville+herald&qc=boonville&qs=NY&qlat=0434901&qlong=-0753246&qk=15&recid=0003006945"> Boonville Herald</A> 105 East Schuyler Street Boonville, NY 13309 315-942-4449 Richard Doody

Linda, I did not receive your answer from before but I see it now. Thanks. I live in California and will have to see if I can get an interlibrary loan. Raymond ----- Original Message ----- From: <Lindabird513@aol.com> To: <NYLEWIS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 4:39 PM Subject: [NYLEWIS] Re: NYLEWIS-D Digest V02 #107 > My answer to Raymond is the Boonville Herald in Boonville NY. They have all > the old copies on microfilm at the Erwin Library in Boonville NY and carried > much news of the surrounding area of Boonville. I have been told that if > there is a specific issue (it was and still is a weekly paper) you want info > from that the librarian will look it up for you. I have never asked as I live > not too far and get up there occasionally. It's worth a try though. The phone > number is listed in Boonville. Just thought this might help.....Linda Glover > > > ==== NYLEWIS Mailing List ==== > List Mom for Lewis County, NY is Jan Cortez. My email is cristian@netonecom.net. If you have any concerns, send me a note, otherwise enjoy the list and post often. It helps get your message out. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

My answer to Raymond is the Boonville Herald in Boonville NY. They have all the old copies on microfilm at the Erwin Library in Boonville NY and carried much news of the surrounding area of Boonville. I have been told that if there is a specific issue (it was and still is a weekly paper) you want info from that the librarian will look it up for you. I have never asked as I live not too far and get up there occasionally. It's worth a try though. The phone number is listed in Boonville. Just thought this might help.....Linda Glover

-----Original Message----- From: Jim Quarterman <beulahland@alltel.net> To: NYLEWIS-D-request@rootsweb.com <NYLEWIS-D-request@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, September 30, 2002 6:21 AM Subject: Brantingham cemetary >My first request ... >Hope I'm sending it correctly.!! > >Am interested in three names. >Seeking family information on : >George H. Bunn ~ Civil War veteran >d. March 2, 1884 - >buried -Brantingham cem. >Greig -Lewis co. >Also: George Cole, listed on 1875 Greig census..Am trying to determine if this Geo. Cole was my grandfather. >Justice Chase, but don't know where >he is buried-listed on 1875 Greig census as living with the George Cole family, g'father >to George's wife. >Thank you, >I.J. Quarterman > >

Hi, Is there a newspaper that was active in this area in the 1910's-20's? Thanks, Raymond

Dear Charmaine, What a nice thing to offer to do! I only lived in Lewis CO. one year a long time ago--so not needed for me. However,I teach genealogy research-methods here in California but am from Cortland County,NYS.There have been times in my personal research that I could have used such an offer. In fact,I am going for only one week soon to Homer,NY and tonight was scanning a 1995 Tel.Book for that county and thinking--I need to corral a more recent edition. I still have friends and classmates from that county. Charlotte J.Sheldon NYLEWIS-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Part 1.1Type: message/rfc822 > > Part 1.2Type: message/rfc822

Hi Pat I'm looking for information on Denmark. I think you have a book on Lewis County. Or anyone else that has information on the Township of Denmark in Lewis County. I just became the historian of Denmark and have very little information the township Thank youJoanne Beyerjbeyer1@iwon.com ------------------------------------------------ Changed your e-mail? Keep your contacts! Use this free e-mail change of address service from Return Path. Register now!

The following book was donated for a used book sale. If anyone on the list is interested in it, please let me know at gnepat@interaxs.net Upstate. Records and Recollections of NOrthern New YOrk. by Edmund Wilson. pub. Farrar, Strauss and Giroux, NY 1971. This book seems to be about Talcottville. It is hardback and in very good condition. Pat JOhnson

Not sure this would interest anyone......but if you live away and could use a Lewis County phone book I have several from recent years. I save my old ones as do other family members who pass them on to me. Would be happy to mail one to anyone who might find it helpful in locating living relatives. -Charmaine Campany

Greetings Lewis County Genealogists: In about ten days my wife and I will be in France for a holiday that will be followed by three days in Lorraine searching for the towns from whence came my great grandparents. Their towns are Laning located somewhat south of St. Avold and Nitting that is due west of Strasbourg by a number of miles. A few questions: First, has anyone been to or near either of these villages? If so could you describe the villages and what I might expect to see. Second, if you have traveled to these areas in Lorraine, how easy was it to find good accommodations on short term basis? Are there Bed and Breakfast type places if not hotels/motels? Any suggested places to stay? Third, we will be traveling by rail to Metz where we will rent a car. Do you have experiences to relate regarding arranging for the rental and the return of the car? Any suggestions as to the type of car that worked out well or poorly for you? Our drop-off point will be Strasbourg. Any comments or personal reflections on your own trip(s) would be appreciated. Ken Everard (in NJ)

My first request: Am not sure how I'm supposed to do this..... So will simply give the name that I have, and ask if someone would be willing to lookup a birth record...Surely would appreciate any help. Elen Cole d.o.b. 1873or4. Parents: George & Netie, they were living in Greig, Lewis co. at the 1875 census. Thank you ! beulahland@alltel.net

Is there someone on the list that would be able to help Cheryl on this one? If so could you please post to her at c.w.garvin@worldnet.att.net Thanks, Jan Cortez Lewis County Coordinator Would you have an e-mail address of someone who could lend some assistance in my search? Annie Clodwick was my great-grandmother, married to Thomas E. Williams, a local retailer in Lowville. I'm actually trying to trace the medical history of Annie to help me to understand a medical condition one of my siblings is currently experiencing. It would be helpful to have some of this background information. Thank you very much for your time. I am most appreciative. Sincerely, Cheryl Williams Garvin