This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jfclark819 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/16668.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Rick, You are preaching to the choir! (pun intended) I have had NO luck with parish records and even had an experience that left such a bad taste in my mouth that I have tried to avoid doing it again. Alas, I am at the point where I need to do so. I have also had several ancestors born in NJ but the census records go back and forth between recording NJ and NY Perhaps it was assumed or something. If you need anything from Bay Ridge, I am here, feel free to message me and I will try to be of assistance. Best of luck to you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rickathedj Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/16668.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks Christine, At one point I made a chart to show how many sources said he was born in New York and how many in New Jersey. The number of New Yorks just edged out the New Jerseys, but that death cert really made me wonder. Of course I always remind myself that in the case of death certificates, the person who for sure knew the correct details was NOT the one answering the questions. I will definitely look into St Patrick's. I've often had problems locating church records. Took almost a year to find records in Albany because the original church closed and passed their records to the new church. Then the new church closed and passed the combined records to the next one. VERY confusing. Rick Armstrong Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rickathedj Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/16668.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The birth years given on various census records were 1860 and 1862. 1860 was given most often and was also the year listed on his death certificate. But in 1884 on his son's birth certificate, he gave his age as 25. Since his own birthday was the following month, he would have been born in 1858. I give that date the most credence because that's probably the only document that he (William) actually filled out himself. New Jersey was spelled out. Census records go back and forth between New York and New Jersey as his place of birth. It wasn't until the death certificate that I had a city. I really suspect that it was either an error on the part of the family member or the official who took the info. But that being the case, it really makes me suspect of everything. Since I don't have any corroborating data (have yet to find a census for the entire family) I'm still looking at all the possibilities. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jfclark819 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/16668.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I live in Bay Ridge now and it is definitely in New York - the whole of Staten Island is in between Bay Ridge and NJ :-) I agree with the previous poster that a NY and NJ could look similar if it is initials only. Bay Ridge was called Yellow Hook until the Yellow fever epidemic hit - they then changed the name. I have not seen any civil records before 1868 for Brooklyn...but I am certainly no expert. If they were Catholic, I wonder if St. Patrick's on 4th avenue is a good start - they were founded in 1848. Christine Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jfclark819 Surnames: Tompkins, Boylan, McNally, Coughran, Hubert Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/16662.2.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Bob, What you say makes complete sense...and of course they were Irish and not German. This is why I am hesitant to write to Churches. Is there a guide or something you can point me to that I can read up on these parishes that will help me make a more informed guess? I have performed google type searches but I must not be using the "right" keywords. I have a LOT of family that came from Ward 5 (Navy, India, Java, West etc), all Irish or Irish-American and I have a feeling that finding the right Church will bulldoze a lot of those brick walls as they never registered with the city of Brooklyn and I assume it was only with the Church. I tried to contact the Dioceses but they told me they were behind and asked me to contact them in a year. I did, three times, but then they never returned my emails. I wish they'd turn the records over to someone who would digitize and index them. I'd even pay for that subscription. Interestingly, I think some parishes are getting ethnic again. My Parish, Our Lady of Perpetual Help, has masses in English, Spanish and Korean. Thank you again for your reply. Very much appreciated. Christine Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JoelWeintraub Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/16668.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: First, you should always be suspicious when the age of a person is given in the endings of "0" or "5". That's usually a sign the person is rounding their ages. For example, census takers were warned about people answering with those ending numbers, and to ask again. Second, is New Jersey spelled out, or are you going from initials? NY and NJ might look alike with some people's handwriting. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pxz5rk2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/16662.2.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If they lived on India Street, it is likely that they attended St. Alphonsus parish or possibly Sts. Cyril and Methodius. St. Anthony of Padua is still on Manhattan Avenue at Milton Street. St. Anthony's absorbed St. Alphonsus back in about 1975 so contact St. Anthony's to check. I believe Sts. Cyril and Methodius Church is still there. If all else fails, contact the Diocese of Brooklyn for guidance. St. Cyril and Methodius (Address: 150 Dupont St, Brooklyn, NY 11222 Phone:(718) 389-4424) St. Anthony's ( 862 Manhattan Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11222 Phone:(718) 383-3339) Good luck and God bless. Let me know how you do. Denise B. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BobNY Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/16662.2.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Finding the right parish in Brooklyn is not simply a matter of finding the nearest church to a target address. In addition to the vague parish boundaries, which might put a given address in a parish whose church is not the closest, there were ethnic churches. The nearest church may have been an ethnic one and not the one in which the person was baptized. On the other hand, an immigrant parent might have their child baptized in their ethnic church ( mostly for language and customs of the rites) and, therefore, far from the home address. I had an uncle who was born in the West 50s in Manhattan who was baptized at Our Lady of Mt. Carmel in what is now Spanish Harlem (but was then a second little Italy). That being said, the closest parish to your target address would have been St. Alphonsus. However, it was founded as a German church and I have no indication as to when it may have become less ethnic. Also, it was merged with St. Anthony's. St. Anthony of Padua - St. Alphonsus 862 Manhattan Avenue Brooklyn, NY 11222 (718) 383-3339 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This link will bring you to a list of Catholic Churches in Brooklyn.  Search for Irish, German, Italian, etc.  Also the date established is shown. http://mysite.verizon.net/timdesmond/files/churches.htm   Ellen

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jfclark819 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/16662.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you both. Which RC church would have been their parish do you think? I'm not sure to which Church to write and since they seem to require a donation to check, I'd like to have a good idea of where to begin. Thanks! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I found Joseph Coen at the Office of Diocesan Archives very helpful in helping me find my families parish churches. You can contact him at: archives@diobrook.org or 718-965-7300. Hope this helps, Peggy On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 12:19 PM, gc-gateway@rootsweb.com < gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: jfclark819 > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/16662.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Thank you both. Which RC church would have been their parish do you think? > I'm not sure to which Church to write and since they seem to require a > donation to check, I'd like to have a good idea of where to begin. > > Thanks! > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYKINGS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kem462 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/16662.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My family has been in Greenpoint since 1871. I too will be able to help if you need it. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pxz5rk2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/16662.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I agree. My husband is from Bensonhurt so I can understand. Any questions you may have about Greenpoint, don't hesitate to ask. I lived there for 30 years. Denise Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jfclark819 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/16662.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks, Denise. I'm a Bay Ridge girl - we do numbered street. So much easier. :-) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pxz5rk2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/16662.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi. Greenpoint is my old neighborhood. That is INDIA street that is written on the birth certificate. I love a good mystery/challenge as you can tell. It is DEFINITELY India street. It's not your fault. It is the person's handwriting. :0) Denise Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jfclark819 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/16666.2.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Be sure to vary your searches. I might stick bunt the year, a unique name, Etc. many of my ancestors do not appear to have obits. Too poor I guess. Good luck. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kcranegry Surnames: Crane Cloehitey Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/16666.2.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: alrighty ill give it another go...ive tried the fultonhistory thing several times...for other tbings and largely unsuccessful where others have posted success with exact same issues...i will try again...thanks so much Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kcranegry Surnames: Crane Cloehitey Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/16666.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: alrighty ill give it another go...ive tried the fultonhistory thing several times...for other tbings and largely unsuccessful where others have posted success with exact same issues...i will try again...thanks so much Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kcranegry Surnames: Vhlo Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/16666.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: alrighty ill give it another go...ive tried the fultonhistory thing several times...for other tbings and largely unsuccessful where others have posted success with exact same issues...i will try again...thanks so much Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jfclark819 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/16666.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Try www.fultonhistory.com. Be sure to read through the search tips and it is a bit more complicated. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.