This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: eilmcdo Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/15430.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You can write to: City of New York Dept. of Vital Records 120 - Worth Street Box 4 New York N.Y. 10013 When writing give as much info as you have. Give the date of death, and death Certificate number. I'm not quite sure if it is $10 or $15.00 for a copy. Eileen Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello, I don't know if this subject has been mentioned on the List recently. But, I'd like to mention the "Orphan Trains" - adding to what I just posted a minute ago in response to Liz's question about the very early 1900's. If you go to this web site, you can read about the "Orphan Trains" and find this paragraph: In 1853, Brace founded the Children's Aid Society to arrange the trips, raise the money, and obtain the legal permissions needed for relocation. Between 1854 and 1929, more than 100,000 children were sent, via orphan trains, to new homes in rural America. Recognizing the need for labor in the expanding farm country, Brace believed that farmers would welcome homeless children, take them into their homes and treat them as their own. His program would turn out to be a forerunner of modern foster care. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/orphan/ (FYI: From a book I read about homeless children in Boston, I found out that the "Orphan Trains movement" started in Boston. When NYC officials found out about it, they decided to try it there. But, Boston officials only sent their "needy children" to farms within New England.) (FYI: There were also "Orphan Trains" in Canada, also following the MA and NY events. But, the so-called orphans were part of the "British Home Children" events.) (People on the BHC List are trying to get Government officials to declare: 2009 - the Year of the British Home Child." If you count all the years when "officials" in the U.K. (the British Isles) sent their "unwanted children" out of their country, the "Child Migrant Scheme" (their term) went on for almost 400 years. If you talk about only the 1800's and 1900's, almost 200,000 children were "shipped out of the British Isles" and sent to Canada, the U.S., Australia, New Zealand, etc. - wherever there was a "British Colony.") The terms, "British Home Children" and "Home Children, Canada (Pacific)" are both searchable terms at www.google.com It is estimated that about 9 million "home children" and / or their descendants made their way down to the States in the U.S. Possibly some made their way to Brooklyn ! Just an FYI for you ! Betty (near Lowell, MA) Remember to check the archives of all the Lists and Boards for your surnames and place-names. And, please remember to check the on-line auctions for for your surnames and place-names.

Hi Liz, We were just discussing on the "British Home Children" List about all the people who died during the "1918 Flu Epidemic." If you look at this "Epidemic Timeline," you will see that the so-called "Spanish Flu" was going on at that time, as well as "Polio" (also a killer). http://hawkshome.net/misc_items/events/epidemic_timeline.htm (And World War I was going on between 1914 and 1918, and that affected many families, in many ways.) And, the "Great Depression" started in 1929, but perhaps others could discuss what was going on in Brooklyn during the 1910 to 1920 timeframe. Were there more "poor" families than there were "rich" families? * Just "food for thought." Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) PLEASE REMEMBER THE "BRITISH HOME CHILDREN." (check out the BHC List archives) Notes: My EX's parents were born in the 1914 to 1918 timeframe, reportedly in Brooklyn. I just noticed that they were born during the WW I years. My ancestor, Jacob HUTCHINSON from near Boston, MA, had a brother and 2 married sisters move to Brooklyn during 1850's. I think they did OK as merchants, but I am curious if they continued to do OK during Civil War years and during the 1870's. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Martinez-Gibson" <cosette.58@hotmail.com> To: <nybronx@rootsweb.com>; <nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com>; <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com>; <nykings@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 12:35 PM Subject: [BKLYN] (no subject) Hi Everyone, I've been trying to find my great grandfather's children in census records for 1910 and 1920. All of the children appear in the 1900 census, but something happened between 1900 and 1910. My great grandmother shows up in 1910 married to someone else (and it says they'd been married for 6 yrs.) with one child (apparently from this new marriage). Her other two children, who would only be 10 and 12, are not with her, and I've tried searching under their names in the census and I find nothing. My great grandfather had an additional five children from his first marriage and they are nowhere to be found in the 1910 and 1920 census. I've also tried looking up each of their names and nothing...Could they have been sent to an orphanage? If this is the case, are there lists of orphans for Suffolk, Nassau and NYC (possibly the Bronx) that I could search?What other explanation could there be for this disappearance? Does anyone have any ideas of what else I might be able to do to find these children? Thanks for your help, Liz

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lifeboat1957 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/15430.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Ziggy.Thanks for your help. Can you tell me where you got information. Would you know how to go about getting a death cert. I am a granson to Thomas so would I be able to apply. I have heard I would have to wait till 2020 before I could get death cert. (50 year's after death). I am living in Ireland so any help you give me I would be very greatful. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tmdffy Surnames: Duffy Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/4553.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I have a Hellen Duffy in my tree Brooklyn. She married a John Walters (Clerk for can factory) He died in 1920's she Hellen Walters 1943. Tom Duffy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: djch39 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/15492.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Eileen Thanks for your reply and information. Dan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: eilmcdo Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/15492.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Dan, I was raised in Holy Family Parish. I recently sent for my baptismal record along with my brothers. I had no trouble. You may want to enclose a donation to cover their time and trouble. Eileen Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: family912 Surnames: Kirkman, Cox, Engel Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/797.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Joseph Kirkman was my grandfather. My grandmother was Laura "Laurah" Cox Kirkman. They were married in St. Cecilia's Church Sept 27, 1885. My mother was Hazel Mae Kirkman born May 11, 1911 and married Eugene Engel. Please let me hear from you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ziggysprints1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/15430.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thomas Cuddy died in Brooklyn October 5, 1970. Order certificate number 19837. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Liz, A good starting point when looking for orphans, might be: http://www.kesh.com/hnoh/welcome.html I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. L'Shannah Tovah* & Happy 5769, Walter Greenspan Great Falls, MT & Jericho, NY * L'Shannah Tovah (li-SHAH-nuh TOH-vuh; li-shah-NAH toh-VAH) Hebrew. Lit. for a good year. The common greeting during Rosh ha Shannah and the Days of Awe. This is a shortening of "L'Shannah tovah tikatev v'taihatem" (or, to women, "L'Shannah tovah tikatevi v'taihatemi"), which means, "May you be inscribed and sealed for a good year." This year, the two-day Jewish Biblical Festival of Rosh ha Shannah (Lev. 23:23-25) will begin at sunset on Monday, September 29 on the civil calendar.

Hi Everyone, I've been trying to find my great grandfather's children in census records for 1910 and 1920. All of the children appear in the 1900 census, but something happened between 1900 and 1910. My great grandmother shows up in 1910 married to someone else (and it says they'd been married for 6 yrs.) with one child (apparently from this new marriage). Her other two children, who would only be 10 and 12, are not with her, and I've tried searching under their names in the census and I find nothing. My great grandfather had an additional five children from his first marriage and they are nowhere to be found in the 1910 and 1920 census. I've also tried looking up each of their names and nothing...Could they have been sent to an orphanage? If this is the case, are there lists of orphans for Suffolk, Nassau and NYC (possibly the Bronx) that I could search?What other explanation could there be for this disappearance? Does anyone have any ideas of what else I might be able to do to find these children? Thanks for your help, Liz _________________________________________________________________ Get ideas on sharing photos from people like you. Find new ways to share. http://www.windowslive.com/explore/photogallery/posts?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Photo_Gallery_082008

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tmdffy Surnames: O'Brien Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/423.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Michael John O'Brien born 1831 . Printer Brooklyn , NY married Margaret Johanna Malone 1872. His Father Michael and Mother Margaret Flannigan. His daughter Margaret O'Brien born 1873 and son William born 1877. Margaret O'brien married Edward Duffy 1894. They are my great grand Parents. I have a picture of Michael and daughter and grandson George Duffy(my Grandfather) around 1902/1903 in DC with kids about the age George W O'briens about the time of death of Bury...January 27, 1902(this is on Bury's stone at Mt. Olivet. There is also another stone with other O'Briens? Tom Duffy 802-309-8116 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tmdffy Surnames: O'Brien Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/5098.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Michael John O'Brien died 1906 at the age 76. He is at Holy Cross. He is at Holy Cross and I have an interment list. He is with Son William Stephen O' Brien born 1877 and his daughter Margaret Duffy born 1873 and others. I put them on find-a grave this year 2008. Michael was a printer from Brooklyn and I have a picture of him in uniform. Where the hang is nancy Russell? I have a million question. Tom Duffy 802-309-8116 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tmdffy Surnames: O'Brien Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/421.2.1.1.1.1.1.2.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, I am 2nd great grandson Michael John O'brien b1831. I am trying to connect him to Bury O'Brien. My Michael was a printer in Brooklyn and had son William b1877 and Daughter Margaret b 1873 my great grandmother. His wife Margaret Johanna Malone. The only link i have is "Printer" and "Johanna" and a few photos of my grand father with George W O'Briens kids ...I think Tom Duffy 802-309-8116 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sdelena16 Surnames: De Lena, Di Lena Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/15488.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you so much Eileen for answering my post! I already knew about the 1900 cencus report. It took me a while to figure out that even though they listed my great grandfather Mauro as "Monroe" and my grandfather Genaro listed as "Eugene" and his big brother James Capasso listed as a "Di Lena" (also wrong for everyone) that, YES, this was my family!! However, I was unaware of this 1920 cencus. Eileen, you are a God send. Even though the immigration years are not the same everything else seems to match! Thanks again my friend! Sue Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: djch39 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/15492.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Eileen Thanks for your information. Have you ever tried to get marriage information from a church. Dan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: eilmcdo Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/15488.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: 1900 Census E.D. 80 Ward 1 Page 20B 536 - 10th Avenue, Mount Vernon Westchester County, N.Y. DELINA Mauro, head, born Jan. 1864, age 36, married 10 years, born Italy. parents born Italy, imm. 1890, alien, occup. farm laborer Giovanna C. wife, born May, 1865, age 35, married 10 years, 3 children, 2 living, born Italy imm. 1895 James, son. bor May, 1891, age 9, born Italy imm. 1896 Eugene, son,. born May 1898, age 2, born N.Y. 1920 Census E.D. 86, 2nd Ward, Page 5B 155 South 8th Ave. Mount Vernon, Westchester County, N.Y. CAPASSO James, head, age 29, married, imm,1894, permanent alien, born Italy, occup. Expressman, own business Josephine, wife, age 26, imm. 1905, alien, born Italy James Jr. age 5, born N.Y. Steve, son, age 1 1/2 born N.Y. VECCHIONIE Steve. father-in-law, age 58, widower, imm. 1905, alien, born Italy, occup. lamplighter, city You should try posting on the Westchester County message board Eileen Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: eilmcdo Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/15492.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Holy Family Church is located on 13th Street between 4th & 5th Ave. The rectory is at 205 14th Street, 11215. There was another church St. Stanislaus located I believe on 14th Street between 6th & 7th Ave. I don't think it is opened any longer. Your address 497 -12th Street is between 7th & 8th Avenue. Eileen Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: djch39 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/15492.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for your reply and information Dan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BobNY Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/15492.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This one is a toss up. Your address is about equidistant from: Holy Name of Jesus 245 Prospect Park West Brooklyn, NY 11215 (718) 768-3071 St. Saviour 611 Eighth Avenue Brooklyn, NY 11215 (718) 768-7983 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.