This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: larryparker124 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/15484.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Here they are in the 1880 U.S. Census. Their address was 228 15th Street, in Brooklyn. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: msgarvey Surnames: BISHOP, CARR, GRAY, GARVEY, GRANT Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/15569/mb.ashx Message Board Post: According to my cousin, another of our cousins was murdered in her home in Brooklyn. She was elderly at the time, in her 80s, which would put the murder somewhere from 1959 to sometime in the 1960s. I am familiar with Manhattan but am not so experienced with Brooklyn research. I looked for info on the murder for a long time and found nothing. But I hadn't found the cousin's (Celia Gray) marriage so I wasn't sure of her name. Tonight I found her in the 1930 Census, on East 38th St. I know it's the correct record because her father is living with her. I need some suggestions on where to start to find out about the reported murder of Celia Gray. What newspapers? Can I get death certs for the 1960s? or is it too recent? thanks for any advice. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: msgarvey Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/15568.5/mb.ashx Message Board Post: GLOSSARY OF ANCIENT DISEASES See Teething http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/misc/disease.shtml Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JanetLWood Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/15568.4.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for all the insight. I know that child mortality was very high in the cities, as I've seen this time and time again as I research lines that lived in NYC. I also have lines that lived in the rural areas of Long Island and Kansas and they lost WAY fewer children. -Janet Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Kquerna Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/15568.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: the other issue here is Lack of Breastfeeding. During this time mothers were beginning to use infant formulas more. The ability to by caned milk (Carnation) made this possible. Also if a mother was poor and needed to work, breastfeeding was very difficult and the child was weaned early. Babies were fed cows milk if formula was not affordable. During this time the availability of pausterized milk was limited. So cows milk would take several days to make it into the cities, so many times by the time a poor mother would feed it to her baby it was full of bacteria. Strep infections were also common so it could of been Strep who knows what else. When one looks at early childhood survival during the late 1870's to the early 1900's in the cities it was bad. By not breastfeeding children for at least 2 yrs. many children died. I totally know this was not intentional, mother's esp. the poor did what they had to do. If you are interested in childhood morbidity during that time (ie what happened to all my cousins) There are multiple books written on this. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bbffrrpp Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/15568.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Janet. I don't know whether there is a difference between Denitition and Dentition, but I just looked up the 2nd word, and it means "the formation of the teeth." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dentition And I know that there have been many children in the past who had trouble with their new teeth - not being able to "cut through." A dentist would have to help the tooth along. I wonder whether that problem could also lead to death. If a dentist wasn't available and a parent didn't know what to do, the baby could get very sick. Also, my husband's grandmother was pregnant with twins when her husband was killed in a car accident in 1927. She delivered 2 boys a month later. Both boys died before they were two. She told her grandchildren that they died from their milk. She believed that the babies "drowned" in their milk. My imagination tells me that she meant "it went down the wrong tube." .. I tried the other spelling of this word and found this web page, which offers another problem: a baby putting his fingers in his or her mouth - for many reasons, but certainly because of teething pain. And, we all know about germs on hands and fingers. http://childhealthprevention.blogspot.com/2007/06/difficult-denitition.html And, speaking of "cutting teeth," don't forget all the problems which can happen when a young adult is cutting his or her "wisdom teeth." How many end up on antibiotics because of it. Betty (near Lowell, MA) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: philiplhayes Surnames: Classification: death Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/15568.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Janet- I have a nine month old from Manhattan who died in 1896 of the same thing! You got it. Teething! My wife, a nurse educator, researched it just to make sure. Neither of us could believe it, but apparently it was somewhat common in those days. I saw this explanation from a 2004 list serv post somewhere. ================== Today, infants and toddlers who are put to bed with milk or juice suffer from what is called "bottle-mouth." The teeth rot from the stagnant sugars feeding the bacteria. Today, they can be capped with silver crowns -- quite ugly, but at least the teeth are rescued. If a similar thing happened then, and the teeth could not be capped, then the bacterial growth would extend down the root, into the jaw. If it lodged in the bone, it could easily spread and treatment is difficult, even today with the high-tech antibiotics. Another option existed then, as it does today. At about the same time children are teething, they are also exploring their world. They do this by putting everything into their mouths. Even today, children die from gastroenteritis (stomach/intestinal inflammation), albeit not that often. people were just being introduced to the strange theory that germs, that little creatures were the cause of illnesses. If a child who was teething developed diarrhea, this was nothing new: teething causes some children to developed diarrhea. It was (and is) difficult to tell when normal diarrhea is no longer normal, but is a bacterial infection. ========================== Philip L. Hayes http://hayesfamily.us Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: wrdsrus Surnames: Fleury Heald Lindelof Cammarota Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/15568.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Poor dentition can lead to mouth infection which can lead to sepsis throughout the body...Poor dentition can also cause mega heart problems...so if you think about it that way, yes an infant could die from poor dentition...however one has to wonder how bad could a 9 month olds teeth be??? I mean how many teeth would they even have LOL... I wonder if a bad case of thrush might cause the same thing...thrush is very common in babies...infections of many types were rampant in the slums... Remember too in 1888 medicine wasn't what it is now...so I would not get too excited about things that don't make sense to us now... Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JanetLWood Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/15568/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have a death of a 9 month old from Kings Co. in 1888 and the cause is listed as "Denitition". Sounds like something that would involve teeth, but goodness...to die from teething!!!! Anyone know what this is in relation to cause of death? -janet Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jdweintraub Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/15567.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Betty, You will probably have to do this yourself. First, go to the Brooklyn Eagle website that has digitized that newspaper for your time period. On November 1st, 1891 an article in the Eagle showed "Official List of Polling Places" and from that, and your address, you should be able to pin down the election district number. Then, go to familysearch.org, the LDS library site, and in their catalogue (library) find the right film for the 1892 Brooklyn part of the NY State census.... and order that film from your local FHL library. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BettyPerkinsNott Surnames: Quinn Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/15567/mb.ashx Message Board Post: 1892 Bklyn Census Look up Please For John Herron Born England Wife Margaret Born Canada As of Oct 22 1892 they were living at 731 Gates Ave 23rd Ward. Thank you Betty Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jpscott135 Surnames: Lavin Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/15566/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I'm trying to locate an obituary for Robert Edward Lavin who was born August 31, 1900 and died sometime in November 1972 in the Brooklyn NY. He originally was from Paris Kentucky and attended the University of Kentucky where he played basketball and football. http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/Statistics/Players/Lavin_Bob.html Unfortunately, I don't know his exact date of death. Any information is appreciated. Thanks Jon Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: janetvaughn59 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/15565.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for posting, but the link didn't work--try this one: http://dioceseofbrooklyn.org/about/archive/abt_arch_using.html Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ndescottes54 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/15565/mb.ashx Message Board Post: For anyone having difficulty finding a Catholic marriage record of your elusive ancestors, I would highly suggest looking at this: http://dioceseofbrooklyn.org/about/archive/ abt_arch_using.html Look at your right for the menu for "Archives". >From a genealogy angel, Nicole Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: janetvaughn59 Surnames: Williamson; Smith; Gritman or Geitman Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/15564/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I ordered a marriage license for a Samuel Williamson, thinking it was my g-g-granfather, but it turned out to be someone else. Is anyone searching for a Samuel Williamson who married an Annie Smith (his third marriage) in 1884 in Brooklyn. Samuel's parents are Theophelat and Harriet (Gritman)Williamson. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MarMilville Surnames: Melvin, McHugh, Keane, O'Boyle, McHale Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.kings/15563/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Mrs. Mary McHugh was listed as being in New York City on her brother's 1910 obituary. Siblings were the late Rev. John J. Melvin-Templeboy Co. Sligo, Anne Boyle-Burtonport Co. Donegal, emigrants Patrick John Melvin-Clinton Iowa, the late Rev. James Melvin-Oakland Calif., Sarah Kane/Keane-Seattle. There are several possible older 'Mary McHughs b. Ireland' in 1910 NYC census. This Mary Melvin was born mid-1800's near Ballina, County Mayo or former County Sligo Moy River area. Their parents were Patrick Melvin and Bridget McHale. If anyone has information on Mary Melvin McHugh, please get in touch with me. We have located much information on her 5 siblings and parents to share. M.M.M. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

My friend had looked in the 1910 census and found - Mabel Patterson living in NY, Kings, Brooklyn Ward 29. Other people in house listed as Mary A. Harris (Head) - widow, aged 45; Mabel Patterson (daughter) - single, aged 26 - born in Pennsylvania. The little girl would have been born c.1906 so I was hoping that this would be her. I don't know how you go about looking for a birth certificate in the US. I can't think there would be too many Mabel PATTERSONs born about 1906 in Brooklyn. In England we have the GRO and can obtain Birth Certificates very easily online. I need to see if this Mabel has no father registered on her birth certificate. I then need to know if it's possible to obtain marriage certificates and/or death certificates. I apologies for my lack of knowledge of the registration system in the US. Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset ----- Original Message ----- From: <MRD33@aol.com> To: <nykings@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [NYKINGS] NYKINGS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 303 > Liz > Found no matches for the Mable Patterson born in 1906, Kings County > except > the 1920 Census as ward. > Closest match was born in 1906 in and an Indian Family outside of New York > City, New York area. > Others in the census do not match places of Birth of Parents as recorded > in > the 1920 census > **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and > favorite sites in one place. Try it now. > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYKINGS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Liz Found no matches for the Mable Patterson born in 1906, Kings County except the 1920 Census as ward. Closest match was born in 1906 in and an Indian Family outside of New York City, New York area. Others in the census do not match places of Birth of Parents as recorded in the 1920 census **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010)

Hello listers I am in England and have little knowledge of researching in the US although I have traced my family in Kings with the help of listers in the past. Now I have a difficult one that I desperately need to find. A little girl called Mable PATTERSON was living with Rebecca Talbot PERKINS and her family in 1920. She was referred to as "Ward". Her year of birth would be approximately 1906. I've had friends look at the 1910 census and there is a Mabel PATTERSON living with a family of PATTERSONs including, I believe, an unmarried mother Mabel! This, I hope, is the Mable I am looking for. I would dearly love to make contact with anyone who knew this family of PATTERSONs as I have to come to the US next year for a very important function. I know it's not rootsweb policy to give information of living people but if someone could point me in the right direction I would be very pleased. How can I find who Mable PATTERSON married? I imagine I would have to find out her married name to find her Social Security Number and therefore her Death details...She'd be over 100 now if she was still alive. Oh, I forgot...she was born in Kings! Thank you so much for any help you can give me. I will eventually be able to tell you what this is all about...and it is very interesting so please help. Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset PS I have tried for over a week to subscribe to the Brooklyn list but I can't get through. I accept that it's been Thanksgiving but after more than a week I would have thought I should have been subscribed by now. Does anyone know what's happened to the Admin for that list. I have even tried emailing the Rootsweb Helpdesk to no avail.

George Howard's Elmhurst addresses were: 69 B'way in 1922 and 1923. 32 B'way in 1910 B'way in 1900 Thanks for checking Bill -----Original Message----- From: nykings-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nykings-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MAELFITZ@aol.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 5:59 PM To: nykings@rootsweb.com; nynewyor@rootsweb.com; nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com; nyc-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYKINGS] Does anyone have Access to HQ? I need help on the1920 Queens, ... Do you have a street address? Maybe we can check the people living in the house at the time. **************Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom0 0000002) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYKINGS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message