On 21 Feb 1882, Frederick James Allen (b. 1863 in Cleveland, OH, son of James and Leora Allen, see below) and Isabel Gibson (b. Sep 1864 on Wolfe Island, Ontario, daughter of David and Fanny Gibson) were married in Kingston and settled on Garden Island. Over the next several years they had six children (5 sons and 1 daughter): Walter E. (b. May 1882, Garden Island), Thomas F. (b. Oct 1886, Garden Island), Charles George (b. Feb 1888, Garden Island), Harrison J. (or Harry Ivan) (b. Feb 1890, Cape Vincent), David G. (b. Dec 1895, Cape Vincent), and Fannie J. (b. Feb 1897, Cape Vincent. According to the 1891 Census of Canada, the family lived on Garden Island: Fred, 28, a ship's carpenter; Isabel, 26; Walter, 8; Thomas, 5; Charles, 3; Harrison, 1. In the 1900 U. S. Federal Census for Cape Vincent, an Isabela Allen is listed as a widow. She was born in Sep 1864 in Canada (E). The census also shows her children as Charles (b. Feb 1888), Walter (b. May 1883), Tomas (b. Oct 1886), Harry (b. Feb 1891), David (b. Dec 1895), and Fanny (b. Feb 1897). I can find no trace of Fred in the 1900 US Census or in the 1901 Canadian Census. In the 1910 U. S. Federal Census, Isabella and family were still living in Cape Vincent, having entered the United States in 1891. She is listed as head of household, age 46, with no mention of Fred. Children: Walter E., 26, core maker at a foundry; Thomas F., 24, messenger at an express company; Charles G., 22, printer at home; Harrison J., printer at home; David G., 15, not employed; Fannie J., 13, not employed. Fred is carried in the 1910 U. S. Federal Census in Galveston, Texas, where he was employed as an inspector for the U. S. Customs Service. He was listed as a roomer at a large apartment building in Galveston and states that he is married, although there is no Mrs. Allen listed. This is in line with his father's will and probate papers, which indicated that he was indeed employed by the U. S. Customs Service in Galveston. Truth in advertising here: Fred was the eldes son of my great grandfather, James F. Allen, b. 1840 in Cape Vincent and worked the St. Lawrence and Lake Ontario as a ship's captain, engineer, carpenter for the Folger family and the Calvin family. James and his wife, Leora Sarah Morton, are buried at Riverside Cemetery, in the Dunning area, and under the same obelisk as his brother Theophilus F. Allen and his wife, Mary Ann Dunning. Both families spent most of their lives, from 1871 until 1910 (1912 for Leora) in Kingston or on Garden Island. I lose track of Isabel Gibson Allen after 1910, other than that she was buried at Riverside Cemetery in 1930. There are few indications, if any, of the children of the family. A Harry Allen, age 40 and born abt 1890 in New York, was listed in the 1930 U. S. Federal Census for Cape Vincent. He was married to Ruth Allen, age 35, and had one child, Barbara Allen, age 14. (The possible "Harry Ivan" came from a draft registration card for WW1, dated June 5, 1917, for a Harry Ivan, age 27, a printer living in Cape Vincent and born 2 Feb 1890, with one child.) Fannie may have died in 1981, unmarried and elsewhere in New York. If anyone can give me any pointers as to where the members of the family of 1910 Cape Vincent might be found, I would truly appreciate it. Jim Allen Sharpsburg, Maryland

That looks like your Charles in Cape Vincent in 1930, wife Ethel, 13 year old daughter Isabelle.Sue Siegmund> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:51:40 -0500> To: nyjeffer@rootsweb.com; ALLEN@rootsweb.com; ALLEN-NE-L@rootsweb.com> From: bcbrith@earthlink.net> Subject: [NYJEFFER] Seeking information on Isabel(a) Allen and descendants> > On 21 Feb 1882, Frederick James Allen (b. 1863 in Cleveland, OH, son > of James and Leora Allen, see below) and Isabel Gibson (b. Sep 1864 > on Wolfe Island, Ontario, daughter of David and Fanny Gibson) were > married in Kingston and settled on Garden Island. Over the next > several years they had six children (5 sons and 1 daughter): Walter > E. (b. May 1882, Garden Island), Thomas F. (b. Oct 1886, Garden > Island), Charles George (b. Feb 1888, Garden Island), Harrison J. (or > Harry Ivan) (b. Feb 1890, Cape Vincent), David G. (b. Dec 1895, Cape > Vincent), and Fannie J. (b. Feb 1897, Cape Vincent.> > According to the 1891 Census of Canada, the family lived on Garden > Island: Fred, 28, a ship's carpenter; Isabel, 26; Walter, 8; Thomas, > 5; Charles, 3; Harrison, 1.> > In the 1900 U. S. Federal Census for Cape Vincent, an Isabela Allen > is listed as a widow. She was born in Sep 1864 in Canada (E). The > census also shows her children as Charles (b. Feb 1888), Walter (b. > May 1883), Tomas (b. Oct 1886), Harry (b. Feb 1891), David (b. Dec > 1895), and Fanny (b. Feb 1897).> > I can find no trace of Fred in the 1900 US Census or in the 1901 > Canadian Census.> > In the 1910 U. S. Federal Census, Isabella and family were still > living in Cape Vincent, having entered the United States in 1891. > She is listed as head of household, age 46, with no mention of Fred. > Children: Walter E., 26, core maker at a foundry; Thomas F., 24, > messenger at an express company; Charles G., 22, printer at home; > Harrison J., printer at home; David G., 15, not employed; Fannie J., > 13, not employed.> > Fred is carried in the 1910 U. S. Federal Census in Galveston, Texas, > where he was employed as an inspector for the U. S. Customs Service. > He was listed as a roomer at a large apartment building in Galveston > and states that he is married, although there is no Mrs. Allen > listed. This is in line with his father's will and probate papers, > which indicated that he was indeed employed by the U. S. Customs > Service in Galveston.> > Truth in advertising here: Fred was the eldes son of my great > grandfather, James F. Allen, b. 1840 in Cape Vincent and worked the > St. Lawrence and Lake Ontario as a ship's captain, engineer, > carpenter for the Folger family and the Calvin family. James and his > wife, Leora Sarah Morton, are buried at Riverside Cemetery, in the > Dunning area, and under the same obelisk as his brother Theophilus F. > Allen and his wife, Mary Ann Dunning. Both families spent most of > their lives, from 1871 until 1910 (1912 for Leora) in Kingston or on > Garden Island.> > I lose track of Isabel Gibson Allen after 1910, other than that she > was buried at Riverside Cemetery in 1930.> > There are few indications, if any, of the children of the family. A > Harry Allen, age 40 and born abt 1890 in New York, was listed in the > 1930 U. S. Federal Census for Cape Vincent. He was married to Ruth > Allen, age 35, and had one child, Barbara Allen, age 14. (The > possible "Harry Ivan" came from a draft registration card for WW1, > dated June 5, 1917, for a Harry Ivan, age 27, a printer living in > Cape Vincent and born 2 Feb 1890, with one child.)> > Fannie may have died in 1981, unmarried and elsewhere in New York.> > If anyone can give me any pointers as to where the members of the > family of 1910 Cape Vincent might be found, I would truly appreciate > it.> > Jim Allen> Sharpsburg, Maryland> NOTE: For questions about this list, contact the list administrator at NYJEFFER-admin@rootsweb.com.> > > Remember that all Queries should make reference to Jefferson County New York and/or a Town, Village or Hamlet.> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sue, Many thanks for your kindness. I will pursue this diligently! Jim Allen