I'd like to say a big "thank you" to Gord HINES for giving me some tips on how to research the family of my g-X-3-grandfather, Hiram CONVERSE. The results were spectacular! It seems that Hiram was the second child of Theron CONVERSE and Nancy CASE. This couple had 14 children (including 2 sets of female twins) over a period of 25 years. The first 4 -- Aurelia (b. 25 Nov 1800), Hiram (b. 30 Jun 1802), Julius Case (b. 1804), and Thomas Norton (b. Aug 1806) -- were all b. in Bridgewater, Oneida Co., NY. The rest of the children were all b. at Watertown, Jefferson Co., NY: Miles (b. 5 Mar 1809), Pamela Mott (b. 1811), Ch arlotte Alice (b. 25 Feb 1813), Nancy Evaline (b. 29 Mar 1815), twins Marietta and Sarietta (b. 18 Feb 1817), twins Lavilla and Rosilla (b. 25 Mar 1820), Th eron Dwight (b. 13 Feb 1822), and George (b. 20 Nov 1825). Hiram m. wife #1, Fanny DUDLEY (b. 28 Oct 1806, probably at Watertown, Jefferson Co., NY; d. between 1840-1848, Mason, Ingham Co., MI). He m. wife #2, Melissa HORTH, 1849, Ingham Co., MI) Theron, Thomas, and a James CONVERSE, were all listed as early settlers of Jefferson Co., NY at <http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyjeffer/earlsect.htm> The Hiram CONVERSE who won the prize for the best team of oxen at the Watertown Ag. Fair of 1856 was probably b. 1829, the son of Thomas CONVERSE, and a cousin of my Hiram CONVERSE. With so many CONVERSEs floating around Jefferson Co., there must be someone on the list who is connected in some way! If so, I'd sure like to make contact. Best Regards -- and thanks again, Gord! Sally BOLSTER HOLCOMBE <jrh1036@aol.com>