Thanks for the NNY newpaper link. I found an announcement in the Watertown Herald about my grandmother graduating from nursing school in 1897. I've been looking for this info for a long time. Allie On Jan 3, 2007, at 6:09 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Truman Cole ([email protected]) > 2. Re: More Boigraphies online for Jefferson County, NY (ednaserv) > 3. Re: Truman Cole ([email protected]) > 4. Re: Help needed with time frames (Barbara King) > 5. Re: More Boigraphies online for Jefferson County, NY (Nan Dixon) > 6. Courthouse volunteer request - MYERS, Elisha G. > ([email protected]) > 7. Freeman's of Chamion, Great Bend and Wilna (Gary Barnes) > 8. Re: Hunter Family in Jefferson County (Greg Hunter) > 9. Re: Gordon Elwood (d. 1871) in Watetown, NY > ([email protected]) > 10. Re: Hunter Family in Jefferson County & Locating Records > ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 12:39:08 -0000 > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: [NYJEFFER] Truman Cole > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Cole > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/ > localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12427.1/ > mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > You are searching in a tough time period. The US census did not list > children's names until 1850. You may want to try subsequent censuses. > Sometimes you will find elderly parents (and in-laws) living with > adult children. > > You always want to work backward from what you know but you are > somehow working forward into the unknown. I'm not sure how you > managed to go back so far but not know the descendants. > > The oldest records that are also easy to search are land records, > wills and probate. If your people owned land and left any kind of > estate at death (assuming they died in Jefferson county) you may find > records at the county courthouse in Watertown. > > I wouldn't rule out the possibility of finding some old baptism > records but based on my work with church records in neighboring St. > Lawrence county (less than a dozen churches so far) it is unusual to > find many records from prior to 1850 or so. > > Hope this helps - > > Russ Sprague > Kensington, Maryland > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 11:30:47 -0500 > From: "ednaserv" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [NYJEFFER] More Boigraphies online for Jefferson County, > NY > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > mM great grandmother Sarah Patterson lived on High st and is burried > in the > walton st cemetary . Also looking for info on Oliver Patterson Wells > Patterson and Nellie Senecal and Lula Patterson Her children. > Thank you for reading this letter > Edna Servos > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Greg Hunter" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 7:12 PM > Subject: Re: [NYJEFFER] More Boigraphies online for Jefferson County, > NY > > >> MUCH PRAISES GO TO RAY FOR ALL HIS HARD WORK! >> >> Greg Hunter >> >> >> Today I added 121 new biographies to the Jefferson County, New York >> Biographies. All my files for Jefferson County ad Jefferson County >> links >> may be reached by this lnk. >> >> http://history.rays-place.com/ny/cty-jefferson.htm >> >> Cheers >> Ray Brown >> http://www.rays-place.com >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 21:38:45 -0000 > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [NYJEFFER] Truman Cole > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/ > localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12427.2/ > mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > any civil war records? > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 16:39:06 -0500 > From: "Barbara King" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [NYJEFFER] Help needed with time frames > To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Please share with us the Ward family you are seeking. I have many in my > tree. > Barb King > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 6:17 PM > Subject: Re: [NYJEFFER] Help needed with time frames > > >> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >> Surnames: Hubbard, Ward, Foote, McOmber >> Classification: queries >> >> Message Board URL: >> >> http://boards.rootsweb.com/ >> localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12421.3/ >> mb.ashx >> >> Message Board Post: >> >> Thanks to all for the help!! >> Although I'm not sure I'm any closer to proving anything! >> Happy Hunting and a Happy & Prosperous New Year to all. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 16:19:28 -0500 > From: "Nan Dixon" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [NYJEFFER] More Boigraphies online for Jefferson County, > NY > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Dear listers: > > Those wanting to post their surnames on the surname list of Website > <http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyjeffer/> are welcome to do so. Please send > them, in capitals, to Nan Dixon at [email protected], and clearly > mark them > to be posted on the web as surnames. > > Nan Dixon > >> mM great grandmother Sarah Patterson lived on High st and is burried >> in >> the >> walton st cemetary . Also looking for info on Oliver Patterson Wells >> Patterson and Nellie Senecal and Lula Patterson Her children. >> Thank you for reading this letter >> Edna Servos > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 22:01:31 -0000 > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: [NYJEFFER] Courthouse volunteer request - MYERS, Elisha G. > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: MYERS, MYRES > Classification: lookup > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/ > localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12428/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Hi, > > Would anyone in the Watertown area be willing to look up the estate > papers for Elisha G. MYERS (a.k.a. MYRES) for me please? > > He died in October 1895 in the Town of LeRay; I don't think he left a > will (possible, but he's not listed at sampubco site), so the index of > letters of administration or other miscellaneous estate papers might > need to be checked as well. > > I'm willing to pay for time and photocopies of documents. > > This is in effort to identify Elisha's parents or at least other > relatives (his death certificate lists parents as "unknown"). > > Thanks! > Mark > > P.S. - More on Elisha at > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~legends/myres.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 14:54:04 -0800 (PST) > From: Gary Barnes <[email protected]> > Subject: [NYJEFFER] Freeman's of Chamion, Great Bend and Wilna > To: [email protected], [email protected] > Cc: [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > > Looking for information on the descendants of Alfred Freeman and son > Erastus Freeman that owned and operated the Freeman House/ Checker > House in Great Bend. > > Colatteral Lines are: Francis of Chamion, Strickland of Phildelphia, > Townsend of Jefferson Co, Barnes of Lewis Co., Frendeburg, Woolworth, > Loomis, Roberts, Tucker and a few more. > > Any information especially pictures are gretaly apprecieted. > > > GB > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 18:54:15 -0500 > From: Greg Hunter <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [NYJEFFER] Hunter Family in Jefferson County > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <C1C1AC56.82CE%[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Pat, I really appreciate your helpful tips. > > I have tried to get at the Plessis Meth Church records but I am told > there > are no where to be found. I'll try your ideas to see if something can > be > found. > > I have tried to locate Thomas Hunter's obit at Flower Library but had > no > luck going through all the microfilm of newspapers around the time of > his > death. Never did find Ann Hunter's obit either except for a small > blurb in > a newspaper llist of deaths. > > Regarding his death certificate...the parents were just left blank! > How > frustrating! > > I never saw any census that said he came from New Hampshire....are you > sure > you had the right name? I am beginning to doubt the "parents born PA" > concept. I did find a Daniel and Sarah Hunter living in town of > orleans > with 3 sons - one being Thomas - wrong birth year for my Thomas. But > as I > researched with hopes that the birth date might just be an error, I > found > that there was that Thomas Hunter living near Watertown - and > confirmed he > wasn't mine when I saw a copy of his will. > > Thanks again for your tips. I am open to anyone's thinking at this > point > to help me knock down the brick wall. > > Greg Hunter > > > > I note you say that he Married Ann Dayton Shannon "about" 1863. Does > that > mean you do not have their actual Marriage Date or record yet? Since > William > and Ann Shannon were living in Alexandria in 1850 it would be logical > that > Thomas Hunter married her in or near that area. If not in the church > by the > local > Pastor. Plessis is near the border of Tn of Alexandria and Tn of > Theresa. > There are Methodist Episcopal Church Records with the FHC (LDS Mormon > Church) on > Microfilm that can be ordered at your local FHC for a small fee and be > viewed > on their reader. These Records for the Church in Theresa are from 1818 > until > 1943. If you live in or near Watertown NY you can view them at their > location. If you have not already reviewed them I would suggest it. The > church > marriage certificate should indicate the parents of both the bride and > groom. > > You might also try to Snail Mail the: (If you haven't already done > that) > the > > North Central New York Conference Archives, Depository > PO Box 1515 > Cicero New York 13039 > Att: Sharon Markowski - Archivist > > Most archives work with Volunteers and prefer if you want information > you > take the time to write a letter outlining your request, making it > specific > as to > the information you are seeking, enclose a SASE and small donation. > Also > you > should give them ample time to reply. I would mention both the > churches of > Town of Alexandria and Tn of Theresa. > > You mentioned you researched everything available at the Flower > Memorial > Library. Did you reviewed and read the old newspaper microfilms for > an Obit > on > Thomas Hunter? The Gleanings on the web sites that are available on the > Internet > are just that "Gleanings" and by no means do they have all of the > Obits in > the Newspapers listed. There are also Weekly Newspapers that were > published > in > surrounding area's that might of had an Obit listed. Clayton is > another > possible along with Ogdensburg. Obits vary with the information from > Newspaper to > Newspaper. > > All area listed on the NY Newspaper Project Site. > http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/nysnp/county1.htm. > These are available on Inter Library Loan. > > You also mention that you have his complete Death Certificate. Were > the > parents left Blank or marked unknown? I noticed that he did state > that they > were > B in PA on a Census. But remember you do not know if he provided that > information or it came from another person in the household. Many > times > that > information is found to be incorrect. On two other Federal Census it > states > he was B > in New Hampshire. So I would question the PA for the parents and look > for > further information. > > A few other suggestions that you might not of checked > Pat R > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 00:01:07 -0000 > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [NYJEFFER] Gordon Elwood (d. 1871) in Watetown, NY > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/ > localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12426.2.1/ > mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Nelda, > > Thanks for the info. I will try some of your suggestions. > > Steve > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 21:09:03 EST > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NYJEFFER] Hunter Family in Jefferson County & Locating > Records > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > In a message dated 1/3/2007 6:55:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: >> Pat, I really appreciate your helpful tips. >> >> I have tried to get at the Plessis Meth Church records but I am told >> there >> are no where to be found. I'll try your ideas to see if something >> can be >> found. >> > Hello > > I am not sure whom you spoke with but one must realize that you do not > take > everyone's word as "final" when doing Genealogy. Most times the > Church records > are not with the local town or village church but have been sent to the > Archives. Also, in rural area's the church was often combined with > another Town > (the Pastor served several churches and sometimes even in the next > County) and > they all had the same Pastor and records. > > I have seen emails stating there are not many northern NY Church > Records out > there, but I have researched for over 50 years and YES there are many > out > there, but often under another Church (which could even be in another > Town or even > a bordering County) or in the central archives. It takes experience > and > diligent searching to locate them. Local Town or County Archives > might not have > records that are held at these Church Archives. Genealogy was not > something > that was to be FAST and I always state FAST Genealogy is not Good. > Dedicated, > diligent and through research uncovers a great many "Gold Mines". The > Interent > is a good tool but cannot do indepth research nor replace documented > records. > > Regards > Pat R > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the NYJEFFER list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the NYJEFFER mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of NYJEFFER Digest, Vol 2, Issue 4 > ************************************** >