You're welcome - he also registered for the draft I see. Sue > Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:38:08 -0500> To: nyjeffer@rootsweb.com> From: bcbrith@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [NYJEFFER] Seeking information on Isabel(a) Allen and descendants> > Sue,> Many thanks for your kindness. I will pursue this diligently!> > Jim Allen> NOTE: For questions about this list, contact the list administrator at NYJEFFER-admin@rootsweb.com.> > > Remember that all Queries should make reference to Jefferson County New York and/or a Town, Village or Hamlet.> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sue, Many thanks for your kindness. I will pursue this diligently! Jim Allen

That looks like your Charles in Cape Vincent in 1930, wife Ethel, 13 year old daughter Isabelle.Sue Siegmund> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:51:40 -0500> To: nyjeffer@rootsweb.com; ALLEN@rootsweb.com; ALLEN-NE-L@rootsweb.com> From: bcbrith@earthlink.net> Subject: [NYJEFFER] Seeking information on Isabel(a) Allen and descendants> > On 21 Feb 1882, Frederick James Allen (b. 1863 in Cleveland, OH, son > of James and Leora Allen, see below) and Isabel Gibson (b. Sep 1864 > on Wolfe Island, Ontario, daughter of David and Fanny Gibson) were > married in Kingston and settled on Garden Island. Over the next > several years they had six children (5 sons and 1 daughter): Walter > E. (b. May 1882, Garden Island), Thomas F. (b. Oct 1886, Garden > Island), Charles George (b. Feb 1888, Garden Island), Harrison J. (or > Harry Ivan) (b. Feb 1890, Cape Vincent), David G. (b. Dec 1895, Cape > Vincent), and Fannie J. (b. Feb 1897, Cape Vincent.> > According to the 1891 Census of Canada, the family lived on Garden > Island: Fred, 28, a ship's carpenter; Isabel, 26; Walter, 8; Thomas, > 5; Charles, 3; Harrison, 1.> > In the 1900 U. S. Federal Census for Cape Vincent, an Isabela Allen > is listed as a widow. She was born in Sep 1864 in Canada (E). The > census also shows her children as Charles (b. Feb 1888), Walter (b. > May 1883), Tomas (b. Oct 1886), Harry (b. Feb 1891), David (b. Dec > 1895), and Fanny (b. Feb 1897).> > I can find no trace of Fred in the 1900 US Census or in the 1901 > Canadian Census.> > In the 1910 U. S. Federal Census, Isabella and family were still > living in Cape Vincent, having entered the United States in 1891. > She is listed as head of household, age 46, with no mention of Fred. > Children: Walter E., 26, core maker at a foundry; Thomas F., 24, > messenger at an express company; Charles G., 22, printer at home; > Harrison J., printer at home; David G., 15, not employed; Fannie J., > 13, not employed.> > Fred is carried in the 1910 U. S. Federal Census in Galveston, Texas, > where he was employed as an inspector for the U. S. Customs Service. > He was listed as a roomer at a large apartment building in Galveston > and states that he is married, although there is no Mrs. Allen > listed. This is in line with his father's will and probate papers, > which indicated that he was indeed employed by the U. S. Customs > Service in Galveston.> > Truth in advertising here: Fred was the eldes son of my great > grandfather, James F. Allen, b. 1840 in Cape Vincent and worked the > St. Lawrence and Lake Ontario as a ship's captain, engineer, > carpenter for the Folger family and the Calvin family. James and his > wife, Leora Sarah Morton, are buried at Riverside Cemetery, in the > Dunning area, and under the same obelisk as his brother Theophilus F. > Allen and his wife, Mary Ann Dunning. Both families spent most of > their lives, from 1871 until 1910 (1912 for Leora) in Kingston or on > Garden Island.> > I lose track of Isabel Gibson Allen after 1910, other than that she > was buried at Riverside Cemetery in 1930.> > There are few indications, if any, of the children of the family. A > Harry Allen, age 40 and born abt 1890 in New York, was listed in the > 1930 U. S. Federal Census for Cape Vincent. He was married to Ruth > Allen, age 35, and had one child, Barbara Allen, age 14. (The > possible "Harry Ivan" came from a draft registration card for WW1, > dated June 5, 1917, for a Harry Ivan, age 27, a printer living in > Cape Vincent and born 2 Feb 1890, with one child.)> > Fannie may have died in 1981, unmarried and elsewhere in New York.> > If anyone can give me any pointers as to where the members of the > family of 1910 Cape Vincent might be found, I would truly appreciate > it.> > Jim Allen> Sharpsburg, Maryland> NOTE: For questions about this list, contact the list administrator at NYJEFFER-admin@rootsweb.com.> > > Remember that all Queries should make reference to Jefferson County New York and/or a Town, Village or Hamlet.> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DCAMB Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12770.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Found some info on your inquirery but..some of it does't jive with your info..but I did find where the Boyce Family were burried as well as some Rogers in a Cemetary in Henderson, Jefferson County, NY...go to: Bartletts Cemetary Inscriptions or www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nyjeffer/bartlett.htmThe other information I got on rootsweb.com and Family Search.Com.....good luck...By the way I'm not related I do this as a hobby...DENNIS........ Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

On 21 Feb 1882, Frederick James Allen (b. 1863 in Cleveland, OH, son of James and Leora Allen, see below) and Isabel Gibson (b. Sep 1864 on Wolfe Island, Ontario, daughter of David and Fanny Gibson) were married in Kingston and settled on Garden Island. Over the next several years they had six children (5 sons and 1 daughter): Walter E. (b. May 1882, Garden Island), Thomas F. (b. Oct 1886, Garden Island), Charles George (b. Feb 1888, Garden Island), Harrison J. (or Harry Ivan) (b. Feb 1890, Cape Vincent), David G. (b. Dec 1895, Cape Vincent), and Fannie J. (b. Feb 1897, Cape Vincent. According to the 1891 Census of Canada, the family lived on Garden Island: Fred, 28, a ship's carpenter; Isabel, 26; Walter, 8; Thomas, 5; Charles, 3; Harrison, 1. In the 1900 U. S. Federal Census for Cape Vincent, an Isabela Allen is listed as a widow. She was born in Sep 1864 in Canada (E). The census also shows her children as Charles (b. Feb 1888), Walter (b. May 1883), Tomas (b. Oct 1886), Harry (b. Feb 1891), David (b. Dec 1895), and Fanny (b. Feb 1897). I can find no trace of Fred in the 1900 US Census or in the 1901 Canadian Census. In the 1910 U. S. Federal Census, Isabella and family were still living in Cape Vincent, having entered the United States in 1891. She is listed as head of household, age 46, with no mention of Fred. Children: Walter E., 26, core maker at a foundry; Thomas F., 24, messenger at an express company; Charles G., 22, printer at home; Harrison J., printer at home; David G., 15, not employed; Fannie J., 13, not employed. Fred is carried in the 1910 U. S. Federal Census in Galveston, Texas, where he was employed as an inspector for the U. S. Customs Service. He was listed as a roomer at a large apartment building in Galveston and states that he is married, although there is no Mrs. Allen listed. This is in line with his father's will and probate papers, which indicated that he was indeed employed by the U. S. Customs Service in Galveston. Truth in advertising here: Fred was the eldes son of my great grandfather, James F. Allen, b. 1840 in Cape Vincent and worked the St. Lawrence and Lake Ontario as a ship's captain, engineer, carpenter for the Folger family and the Calvin family. James and his wife, Leora Sarah Morton, are buried at Riverside Cemetery, in the Dunning area, and under the same obelisk as his brother Theophilus F. Allen and his wife, Mary Ann Dunning. Both families spent most of their lives, from 1871 until 1910 (1912 for Leora) in Kingston or on Garden Island. I lose track of Isabel Gibson Allen after 1910, other than that she was buried at Riverside Cemetery in 1930. There are few indications, if any, of the children of the family. A Harry Allen, age 40 and born abt 1890 in New York, was listed in the 1930 U. S. Federal Census for Cape Vincent. He was married to Ruth Allen, age 35, and had one child, Barbara Allen, age 14. (The possible "Harry Ivan" came from a draft registration card for WW1, dated June 5, 1917, for a Harry Ivan, age 27, a printer living in Cape Vincent and born 2 Feb 1890, with one child.) Fannie may have died in 1981, unmarried and elsewhere in New York. If anyone can give me any pointers as to where the members of the family of 1910 Cape Vincent might be found, I would truly appreciate it. Jim Allen Sharpsburg, Maryland

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jrcrtosa1 Surnames: Rogers, Boice, Buys, Hallock Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12770/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am trying to trace Nathaniel Rogers, b.1741, from Dutchess County, NY and the Beekman Patent, to an unknown location. Nathaniel was married to Keziah Hallock in 1765, in Dutchess County, and lived in the Beekman Patent until the end of the 1700's. He is gone by the 1800 census. According to the series of books written about the Beekman Patent by Frank Doherty, one of Nathaniel Rogers' daughters, Amy, married David L. Buys (Boyce and various other spellings) and David L. Buys moved eventually to Jefferson County, NY. He may have lived temporarily in Schenectady County on his way to Jefferson County. Did Nathaniel and Keziah Rogers follow their daughter and son-in-law to Jefferson County? Any help will be greatly appreciated. John Rodgers Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jfish47 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/9017.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: HI, I believe I have a great deal of info to assist you. please check my pedigree for details. I pick up ahere you left off to present date Janet Ann Little Fish Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DMarshall2771 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/8481.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Only the 1855 state census is on Jefferson co. website. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AilingMI Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/8481.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: It's been over four years since your post and I'm sure by now you know there are censuses for those years. If you are still around, did you find a place online where youc an view those? I know the films are available from multiple sources but was hoping there was a searchable database by now. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mcalder114 Surnames: Chisamore Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/8023.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: thanks for your efforts, I'll try the Rootsweb site for "CHisamore". Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mcalder114 Surnames: Chisamore Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/8023.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My great, great grandfather was John Harvey Chisamore, born 1819 in Jefferson County, New York -according to his obit, other census reports say Ontario. I cannot find any immediate relatives -brothers, sisters, parents. Do you have a connection.He lived in Simcoe County, Ontario, Canada then moved to Edson, Chippewa Co, Wisconsin -where he's buried.He was married to Mary (-possibly) Kyle Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: zen183 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12762.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Megan, Chey and I have talked about this many times. We knew that John had several children besides Chey and she often thought about trying to make contact. When I speak to her again, I will read your post to her. Email me privately and we can discuss this. My email is - jcc [at] 81north.com Juanita Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lrcorbett Surnames: Schulz Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12768.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I found this article in an old newspaper, dated Feb 14, 1890. The reason for the article, I assume, was that all the daughters had the same birthdate. Notice that George Schulz date of birth is shown as January, not December as appears in other sources. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lrcorbett Surnames: Schulz, Steele, Derosia, Switzer, Richardson, Martin Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12768.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Clayton Schulz' third wife was born Florence Steele. She was the daughter of Fred Steele and Elnora Derosia, my g-g aunt. Clayton was Florence's third husband She had previously been married to Fred Howard Switzer and to Ivan Richardson. After Clayton Schulz, she married William Martin. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DERich48 Surnames: Schultz, Montondo Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12768.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Clayton was my 2nd cousin, 3 times removed. His parents were Geroge and Nellie. George's parents were Adam and Marie Lathan. Adam's parents were John Shultz and (?). John had two wives: Mary Pohl, who was my 4th Gr. Grandmother and someone else, who is the progenitor of your branch. Unfortuntely I do not have a name for her. I would very like to have more infomation about John Schultz if anyone has it. Attached is the Obituary for George Schutlz (1871-1953). Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mommasgirls3 Surnames: Schulz, Scott, Montando, Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12768/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for anyone who knows anything about my husbands family. His grandparents were Clayton George Schulz and Kathleen Clara Scott. Clayton was from Clayton his parents were George and Nellie (Montando) and Kathleen was from Morristown her parents were Charles and Clara. He had 3 kids with Kathleen there names are James and John (twins) James is my father-in-law and a daughter Sherry she married Ezrail (Ed) Simpson. Kathleen died and Clayton Married Florence Richardson. Clayton had 3 kids with wife Ola not sure of last name might be Morrow. There names are William Shirley and Phyllis. I hope some one can help with any information. Ola was 1st, Kathleen 2nd, Florence 3rd. He had 3 wifes as far as I know. you can email me at schulzcheryl@yahoo.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Since the word got out on the lists. New additions Allegany - 1 Cattaraugus - 18 Chautauqua - 1 Columbia - 7 Jefferson - 269 Onondaga - 38 Oswego - 5 Schuyler - 3 Before submitting, please look at other photos and see how information is displayed effectively. Please do not omit dates as listed on the marker. Please do not leave the comment box blank. Please include middle names or middle initials as part of given name. Some information edited to make information more clear. Some gaffes were quickly corrected. Please list Fraternal orders if insignias are shown on marker (Masonic, IOOF being two most common) Duplicate submission deleted. If mistake had been made, contact me for correction. If a bad submission had been made but not completed, just use back button twice to dump the submission. It won’t be recorded. Some photos held back pending further information. (11 photos) If you know of any submissions and recognize the maiden surnames of the wives, please DO let me know so I can add the line. You will need to provide me exact url of the photo for me to find it quickly. W. David Samuelsen http://www.newyorkgravestones.org

Since the word got out on the lists ford 3rd round htt://www.newyorkgravestones.org/ New additions Cattaraugus - 4 Chautauqua - 9 Columbia - 11 Herkimer - 11 Jefferson - 8 Livingston - 6 Onondaga - 5 Oswego - 1 Schenectady - 2 Schoharie - 10 Please do not omit dates as listed on the marker. Some information edited to make information more clear. Some gaffes were quickly corrected. Please list Fraternal orders if insignias are shown on marker (Masonic, IOOF being two most common) Duplicate submission deleted. If mistake had been made, contact me for correction. If a bad submission had been made but not completed, just use back button twice to dump the submission. It won’t be recorded. Some photos held back pending further information. If you know of any submissions and recognize the maiden surnames of the wives, please DO let me know so I can add the line. You will need to provide me exact url of the photo for me to find it quickly. W. David Samuelsen SAMPUBCO, sponsor of http://www.newyorkgravestones.org

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Kathydon217 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12767.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Allie Litterbrant b 30 Dec 1897 d 14 Dec 1961 Riverside Cemetery Cape Vincent Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Kathydon217 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12767.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There is a Social Security death record for a Marie Parody Born-27 Jul 1903 Died-Aug 1987 Last residence- Cape Vincent, New York Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.