This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: billys55chevy Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/4929.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: does it give what her maiden name was. I know denpending which state you are in what each form may have. And would you know who the other 4 children of Sarah may be. The only one i have is John Edward Belcher. He is my G Grandfather.. Cant seems to find anything on the other 4 but i dont have the world package, just the US package for ancstery. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: billys55chevy Surnames: Johnson Conway Belcher Cardwell Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12786/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for info on this family. Sarah Cardwell Belcher came from England to Canada. Her and her son John Belcher then came to Watertown NY around 1889. In 1910 she is listed as having born 5 children, 5 living. The only child I can locate is John. Any info to the other sibling would be appriecated. The following people are descendant from Sarah Belcher Cardwell and her Son John E Belcher, all buried in North Watertown Cemetery. BELCHER, John E 1874 4 Dec 1927 BELCHER, Lula 1876 30 Nov 1941 BELCHER, Catherine 1896 13 Dec 1900 (dau of John) BELCHER, George Henry 1900 28 Dec 1933 (son of John) BELCHER, Susan M 1868 10 Jan 1961 (wife of George) MOREHOUSE, Isabel A Belcher 1905 12 Oct 1987 (Dau of John) Donald A 1903 16 Jul 1958 (husband of Isael) CARDWELL, Gilbert 10 Mar 1901 (husband of Sarah) Death date only CARDWELL, Sarah E 3 Apr 1916 (mother of John E Belcher) death date only CONWAY, Viola Belcher 1911 21 May 1967 (daug of John) CONWAY, Walter D Sr 1907 13 Nov 1986 (husband of Viola Belcher) North Watertown Cemetery Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: GailMcCormick70 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/8946.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi , I am related to Susan Belcher. My connection is with the Beaupre surname from Bellville Ontario Canada. Gail. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Kathydon217 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/4929.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Belcher John E 1874-1927 Belcher Lulu 1876-1941 North Watertown Cemetery (Old Ground) ___________________________________________________________ Sarah, John's mother, was married for a second time to Gilbert Cardwell. 1890 Marriages Watertown Cardwell, Gilbert Belcher, Sarah Kathy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: billys55chevy Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/8946.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Would this be the same Susan that married George Belcher and had a daughter Veda. If so My Great Grandmother was the sister of George (Emma who married Paul Ashley Johnson) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: billys55chevy Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/4929.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: George Belcher father was John Edward Belcher. You wouldnt have any info on him would you. The only thing i can find is his mother was Sarah. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Steve, I have done some work on the Hentze family as my husband's grandfather was Fred Hentze here in Chaumont, NY about 5 miles west of Brownville. I don't think that I have anything to help you, in fact you seem to have more than I have. My work starts with Henry Hentze, who was born in 1759. Some years ago I was corresponding with Beatrice Teeter, a Hentze descendent. I think that she was from Illinois. I'm not sure that I could even find her address any more. Let me work on this some more and see what else I can dig up. Someplace I have a copy of a page from the Hentze family bible with the vitals. I think that I have recorded all of the dates and they referred only to those descendants of Henry. I will see if I can find that page. Please stay in touch. I haven't worked on my genealogy in a while, but I will see what I can find. On Feb 2, 2009, at 3:25 PM, Steve Ripka wrote: > Hello - I got into my family history 2 years ago and have found a > lot of > information, but would like to try and fill in some gaps. I have > traced > my ancestry back to Asahel Hensey (my mom was a Hensey), who in the > 1850 > US Census was living in Adams with his wife Prudence. I believe he is > the son of Andrew and Rachel Hensey, who was also living in Adams > in the > same census, but a different household. Andrew and Rachel were living > in Adams in the 1840 and 1830 US Census' with a male child that was > the > same age as Asahel. Andrew married Rachel Adams in Connecticut in > 1814, > then moved to Brownville, NY between then and 1820, where they > appear in > that years US Census. > > Andrew was born in CT to John Andrew and Sarah Hensey/Hansey. From > Sarah's Revolutionary War Pension Application, I have found that: > - John Andrew was a Hessian (German mercenary fighting for the > British) > soldier that was captured in the Battle of Bennington > - He was a POW working on the farm in CT where Sarah lived > - He joined the American side in Jan 1781 and fought in a few battles, > including the Cornwallis' surrender at Yorktown > - He returned to the farm, married Sarah, had 3 kids (Andrew was one) > then re-joined the US Army and died fighting Indians at St.Clair's > Defeat in Western Ohio in 1791 > > I was trying to figure out why Andrew and Sarah moved to Brownville > and > found that Henry Hentze was listed as an early settler there in > 1814 on > your GenWeb page. His wife Triphena received a deed to 25 acres > there, > so they moved from Vermont, according to the Morris Clan website. > They > also say that Henry was a Hessian soldier. I suspect that John Andrew > was related to Henry (brothers?) and that they came over as > soldiers to > America together. I have not been able to locate them in German > Rev War > era muster rolls yet. I think his German name was Johann Andreas > Hentze, but was spelled phonetically as Hensey. I suspect that after > John Andrew died, Henry sent word to Sarah or Andrew about the town of > Brownville, so Andrew and Rachel moved their prior to 1820. Henry and > Triphena are both buried in Pettit cemetery in Brownville, Andrew is > buried in Honeyville cemetery near Adams. > > Finally, here is the info I am looking for: > 1) Are there any birth/school/etc records in Adams that verify > Asahel is > the son of Andrew and Rachel? > 2) Are there any Jefferson County land/deed/etc records for the > Hentze/Hensey families? > 3) Any info that may tie John Andrew (or Andrew) and Henry together? > > I travel to Toronto for work about once every other month and would > like > to make a side trip to Jefferson County some time (an additional 4 > hours > of driving), but have not been able to work it out yet, so any > information you can provide would be much appreciated. Thanks for > your > help! > > Steve Ripka > 4133 Holly Lane > Rochester, MI 48306 > > ________________________________ > > From: Nancy Dixon [mailto:nandixon@gisco.net] > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 06:29 PM > To: Steve Ripka > Subject: Re: Hentze Ancestor > > > Steve, > > While I cannot help you personally, I suggest you send a free query to > Jefferson County Genealogy Society's newsletter, Informer, at > <maridavis@aol.com>. Be sure to include your snail mail address, > since > many of our readers do not use computers. > > Also free, and reaching a different readership is the Jefferson County > Mailing list at <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> > > Definitely you should contact the Brownville town historian, town > clerk > and Dexter village clerk. Their addresses are at > http://jefferson.nygenweb.net/brownvil.htm Dexter is a village within > the Town of Brownville. > > Reading http://jefferson.nygenweb.net/search.htm might give you more > ideas. > > Good hunting. > > Nan Dixon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steve Ripka <mailto:Steve.Ripka@flextronics.com> > To: nandixon@gisco.net > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 2:06 PM > Subject: Hentze Ancestor > > Nancy - I found your email address on the NY GenWeb for the Town > of Brownville. I am an ancestor of Andrew Hensey who shows up in the > 1820 census for Brownville. He is the son of a German soldier (John > Andrew Hensey, probably Hentze) that initially fought in the American > Revolution for the British, but became a POW at the Battle of > Bennington > early in the war. Later, he fought on the American side. His son > Andrew was born in CT in 1787. > > Andrew got married in 1814 in CT then moved with his wife and > kids to Brownville. By the 1830 census he had moved to Adams, NY. I > think the reason he left CT was because perhaps his uncle? Henry > Hentze > (the German spelling of Hensey) was an early settler there. Henry and > other family members show up in the Brownville Cemetery > Inscriptions in > the town's vital records. Henry died in 1841 at the age of 83 years, > which puts him at 18 years old when the German soldiers started > arriving. That would have been very close to the age of John Andrew > when he came over. I am trying to find out if they were in the same > unit. > > The reason I am telling you this is because I was wondering if > you could answer or forward my request for any additional information > regarding Henry Hentze. I would like to prove or disprove that he is > the brother of John Andrew. I am hoping that since he shows up in > several places in Brownville history that perhaps one of the > Brownville > or Dexter town historians may have some more info. Thanks! > > Steve Ripka > > > > NOTE: For questions about this list, contact the list > administrator at NYJEFFER-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > Remember that all Queries should make reference to Jefferson County > New York and/or a Town, Village or Hamlet. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYJEFFER- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: leonamacdonald Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12779.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Okay...well I'll keep my eyes peeled as I'm always looking up jefferson county stuff. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: FoxxTrotter Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12779.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I already tried Fulton History with no luck. There are no articles for the Watertown newspapers during that period. I'll check the other one later. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: leonamacdonald Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12779.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: try here: www.fultonhistory.com http://news.nnyln.net/ Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello - I got into my family history 2 years ago and have found a lot of information, but would like to try and fill in some gaps. I have traced my ancestry back to Asahel Hensey (my mom was a Hensey), who in the 1850 US Census was living in Adams with his wife Prudence. I believe he is the son of Andrew and Rachel Hensey, who was also living in Adams in the same census, but a different household. Andrew and Rachel were living in Adams in the 1840 and 1830 US Census' with a male child that was the same age as Asahel. Andrew married Rachel Adams in Connecticut in 1814, then moved to Brownville, NY between then and 1820, where they appear in that years US Census. Andrew was born in CT to John Andrew and Sarah Hensey/Hansey. From Sarah's Revolutionary War Pension Application, I have found that: - John Andrew was a Hessian (German mercenary fighting for the British) soldier that was captured in the Battle of Bennington - He was a POW working on the farm in CT where Sarah lived - He joined the American side in Jan 1781 and fought in a few battles, including the Cornwallis' surrender at Yorktown - He returned to the farm, married Sarah, had 3 kids (Andrew was one) then re-joined the US Army and died fighting Indians at St.Clair's Defeat in Western Ohio in 1791 I was trying to figure out why Andrew and Sarah moved to Brownville and found that Henry Hentze was listed as an early settler there in 1814 on your GenWeb page. His wife Triphena received a deed to 25 acres there, so they moved from Vermont, according to the Morris Clan website. They also say that Henry was a Hessian soldier. I suspect that John Andrew was related to Henry (brothers?) and that they came over as soldiers to America together. I have not been able to locate them in German Rev War era muster rolls yet. I think his German name was Johann Andreas Hentze, but was spelled phonetically as Hensey. I suspect that after John Andrew died, Henry sent word to Sarah or Andrew about the town of Brownville, so Andrew and Rachel moved their prior to 1820. Henry and Triphena are both buried in Pettit cemetery in Brownville, Andrew is buried in Honeyville cemetery near Adams. Finally, here is the info I am looking for: 1) Are there any birth/school/etc records in Adams that verify Asahel is the son of Andrew and Rachel? 2) Are there any Jefferson County land/deed/etc records for the Hentze/Hensey families? 3) Any info that may tie John Andrew (or Andrew) and Henry together? I travel to Toronto for work about once every other month and would like to make a side trip to Jefferson County some time (an additional 4 hours of driving), but have not been able to work it out yet, so any information you can provide would be much appreciated. Thanks for your help! Steve Ripka 4133 Holly Lane Rochester, MI 48306 ________________________________ From: Nancy Dixon [mailto:nandixon@gisco.net] Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 06:29 PM To: Steve Ripka Subject: Re: Hentze Ancestor Steve, While I cannot help you personally, I suggest you send a free query to Jefferson County Genealogy Society's newsletter, Informer, at <maridavis@aol.com>. Be sure to include your snail mail address, since many of our readers do not use computers. Also free, and reaching a different readership is the Jefferson County Mailing list at <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Definitely you should contact the Brownville town historian, town clerk and Dexter village clerk. Their addresses are at http://jefferson.nygenweb.net/brownvil.htm Dexter is a village within the Town of Brownville. Reading http://jefferson.nygenweb.net/search.htm might give you more ideas. Good hunting. Nan Dixon ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Ripka <mailto:Steve.Ripka@flextronics.com> To: nandixon@gisco.net Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 2:06 PM Subject: Hentze Ancestor Nancy - I found your email address on the NY GenWeb for the Town of Brownville. I am an ancestor of Andrew Hensey who shows up in the 1820 census for Brownville. He is the son of a German soldier (John Andrew Hensey, probably Hentze) that initially fought in the American Revolution for the British, but became a POW at the Battle of Bennington early in the war. Later, he fought on the American side. His son Andrew was born in CT in 1787. Andrew got married in 1814 in CT then moved with his wife and kids to Brownville. By the 1830 census he had moved to Adams, NY. I think the reason he left CT was because perhaps his uncle? Henry Hentze (the German spelling of Hensey) was an early settler there. Henry and other family members show up in the Brownville Cemetery Inscriptions in the town's vital records. Henry died in 1841 at the age of 83 years, which puts him at 18 years old when the German soldiers started arriving. That would have been very close to the age of John Andrew when he came over. I am trying to find out if they were in the same unit. The reason I am telling you this is because I was wondering if you could answer or forward my request for any additional information regarding Henry Hentze. I would like to prove or disprove that he is the brother of John Andrew. I am hoping that since he shows up in several places in Brownville history that perhaps one of the Brownville or Dexter town historians may have some more info. Thanks! Steve Ripka

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RichardWheeler599 Surnames: Harger Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12785.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you very much. Yes, it is a great help and I appreciate your assistance. Best regards, Richard Wheeler Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dj3aj2cj1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12785.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Found the following - hope it is of some help. Brookside Cemetery Watertown New York Harger, Abraham M. Section D, Lot 06, Grave 01L, July 2, 1785 - Nov 18, 1873 Harger, Betsey (Davenport) Section D, Lot 06, Grave 02L, Nov 17, 1791 - July 21, 1881 W/Abraham Harger, Abraham M. Jr. Section D, Lot 06, Grave 06L, 1821 - 1844, S/Abraham&Betsey There are lots of other Harger's buried there. Check it out: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nyjeffer/brkh1.htm Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RichardWheeler599 Surnames: Harger, Group, Grub Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12785/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am researching to find the parents of Rosena "Harger" Group. She was married to Adam Group (sometimes spelled Grub) in 1849, Syracuse, NY. According to her obituary in The Post-Standard, Syracuse, NY on Monday morning, February 2, 1914, Rosena was born 28 Feb 1833, Redwood, Jefferson County, NY. I can find 15 Harger in the 1850 Federal Census for Jefferson County, all but two living in the town of Pamelia. The closest logical choice for a father is Abram Harger, born 1785, Connecticut (according to the 1850 Federal Census of Pamelia, Jefferson County, NY. His wife name was Betsey, born 1790, New York State, according to the same census. Abram Harger is listed in several books of the area as being the postmaster in 1837 and supervisor (town of Pamelia) in 1850. It is additionally stated that Abram Harger built the first stone hotel in Pamelia Four Corners some time shortly after 1821. It is a long shot, but I have tentatively decided that this Abrams & Betsey Harger! are the parents to Rosena. I am curious if anyone has information on the children of Abrams & Betsey Harger, the church they may have attended (for record purposes) or where they may be buried. The marriage certificate for Adam Group and Rosena Harger lists Mary Harger as one of the witness. Perhaps Mary is her sister? I would appreciate any information on this family. Thank you. Richard Wheeler Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: PeteShew1 Surnames: Shew Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12770.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: John, I think we may have several family lines in common. I have Rogers in Dutchess Co & Montgomery Co (adjacent to Schenectedy, Boice in Columbia Co (next to Dutchess) & Hallocks in NYS & Conn. These are all connected thru my Shew family line. Please contact me at shewpm@gmail.com Thanks, Pete Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jrcrtosa1 Surnames: Rogers Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12783/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Is there anyone who knows about John W Rogers, who died in Jefferson County, NY in 1848? He may have had a son with the same name. I am interested in their ancestry. Thanks for your response. John Rodgers Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: StuPike Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12782/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I've just discovered George PIKE from Watertown is my ggggGrandfather. On page 826 of the "Genealogical and family history of the county of Jefferson", George PIKE and Elvira DRESSER are listed as having the following 6 children Henry Alanson, William Harrison, Caroline, Elvira, Chauncey Jackson and Charles George. On the same page it talks about another Dresser family who William (15yr) lived with during the 1950 census Watertown, Jefferson County, NY. In any case, I've got a lot of data and will gladly share. Cheers, Stu Pike http://www.math.mun.ca/~dapike/family_history/pike/DNA/index.php?content=Pedigrees/48191.html Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Dave, The Morris Tract Cemetery is actually in the Town of Brownville. I believe that it is on route 125 out of Chaumont. I checked on the Jefferson County roots web site (www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nyjeffer/ barbrc.htm) and I found the following: Casselmam, Adeline (Lavanchard) Wf. Donald 1 Apr 1844-29 Aug 1933 Freeman Phyllis Putnam On Jan 27, 2009, at 4:59 PM, Dave Simonds wrote: > > I recently read the obituary of a woman -- Adeline LeVanchard > Casselman -- > who died in 1933 in the Jefferson County Home, after living > there 28 years. > She was to be buried in the "Morris Tract cemetery, near > Chaumont." I had > not heard of this cemetery, and checking Barlett's (1994) Town > of Lyme > Cemetery Inscriptions, I don't find it listed either. Her > husband, Daniel > (not Donald as he is named in the obit), and his first wife > Lenora, are > buried in Freeman Cemetery in the Town of Brownville. It looks > to be about 4 > or 5 miles from Chaumont. > Does anyone know where Morris Tract cemetery is, or if it is > known by some > other name? And/or does anyone know where Adeline LeVanchard > Casselman is > actually buried? So far the earliest census I have located her > in is 1860, > Town of Champion, where she appears with her parents, Frederic > and Matilda, > and others with the same surname (transcribed and indexed as > LVancher on > Ancestry.com). > NOTE: For questions about this list, contact the list > administrator at NYJEFFER-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > Remember that all Queries should make reference to Jefferson County > New York and/or a Town, Village or Hamlet. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYJEFFER- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I recently read the obituary of a woman -- Adeline LeVanchard Casselman -- who died in 1933 in the Jefferson County Home, after living there 28 years. She was to be buried in the "Morris Tract cemetery, near Chaumont." I had not heard of this cemetery, and checking Barlett's (1994) Town of Lyme Cemetery Inscriptions, I don't find it listed either. Her husband, Daniel (not Donald as he is named in the obit), and his first wife Lenora, are buried in Freeman Cemetery in the Town of Brownville. It looks to be about 4 or 5 miles from Chaumont. Does anyone know where Morris Tract cemetery is, or if it is known by some other name? And/or does anyone know where Adeline LeVanchard Casselman is actually buried? So far the earliest census I have located her in is 1860, Town of Champion, where she appears with her parents, Frederic and Matilda, and others with the same surname (transcribed and indexed as LVancher on Ancestry.com).

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: maybelles1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12780.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I found a James E. Graham b. 1854 who d. 1938 buried in Lakeside Cemetery, Sackets Harbor, NY. His wife, Lillian b. 1857 who d. 1924 is also buried there. Is this your James? Also found a William Graham age 36, farmer, b. Scotland with a wife Margaret age 33 b. Scotland. Children (all born Scotland: George 12, Catharine 10, Margaret 8, Mary 5, James 3. This record was found at Libson, St. Lawrence Co., NY in the 1860 census. Do you think this is your William? There are various other Williams, however, this is the only one with a fit for your James. In the 1870 census for this William & Margaret at Libson, the only others listed were George 21 and John 19. That census does not state relationship. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.