This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: roblove Surnames: PLUMTREE Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12789/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Searching for any decendants of EDWIN PLUMTREE b. Apr 1885 probably in Lewis County, New York, Town of Montague. His father was Joseph A. PLUMTREE and mother was Nettie PLUMTREE. This family is found in the 1900 US Census, New York, Jeferson County, Town of Wilna, village of Carthage. Nettie appears to have either died or divorced between June 1900 and about Jun 1902. Joseph PLUMTREE appears with his second wife Emma in the 1910 census, Pennsylvania, Chester County, Downingtown East Ward, Downington Bourgh. Edwin is absent. Thanks for any help. Bob Love Wauna, WA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Kathydon217 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12788.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Try this site www.nnygenealogy.com/ Search Close There is a burial for a Johnathan Close with a wife, Louisa buried in Smithville Cemetery, Henderson, Jefferson County. There is also a child of Sanford and Sarah named Electra born in 1845 and who died in 1846. I think this is your family. Kathy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: PRegan2521 Surnames: Close Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12788.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi You might want to contact the Historical Society of South Jefferson County in Adams NY to see if they have information on the Close Family. Historical Association of South Jefferson 29 East Church St., Adams, NY 13605 Telephone: (315) 232-2616 Contact: Debbie Quick E-mail: hasjeff@imcnet.net It is possible they are descendants of the Close Family that was in Greenwich CT. Good Luck Pat R Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JudyKroker51 Surnames: Close Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12788/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for any information of the SANFORD and JONATHAN CLOSE family who was in the 1860 1860 Census-New York-Jefferson--------Adams SANFORD CLOSE age 43 6400 1815 SARAH CLOSE age 41 RUTH ANN CLOSE age 16 ALONZO CLOSE age 11 SANFORD D CLOSE age 7 GEORGE CLOSE age 3 LEONARD CLOSE age 9 months JONATHAN CLOSE age 75 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KeithSly46 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/4929.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: A correction to the information in this post. Barriefield Camp is now CFB Kingston which is located on the east side of Cataraqui River near Old Fort Henry and the village of Barriefield. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: billys55chevy Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12786.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Wow you are good. I dont know the area and its killing me. Everybody has been such a great help and i really appreciate it. I will look at that link now. The sites you have for NY is really good. Nothing like what we have here. Thanks again Angie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dj3aj2cj1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12787.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In looking at St. Patrick's Cemetery online I found only the following buried there: Michael O'Shea, died April 21, 1886, AE 57 yrs I then found these articles, which refers to the same Michael O'Shea, but his wife's name is AMY (also buried at St. Patrick's) so I am unsure if this is the same Michael O'Shea that you are looking for, but this Michael was a tailor according to these articles: Norwood News 1884-1887 The case of Amy O'Shea against Geo. McLear was then called and commenced before a jury. This is an action under the "civil damage act." It is brought by the plaintiff to recover for the loss of her husband, Michael O'Shea, who was drowned in Indian river, near the village of Rossie, while in a state of intoxication on the night of the 21st of April last. The deceased, a tailor by trade, was returning from the village of Rossie to his home about two-miles-distant, on the night in question, and it is alleged that in consequence of his intoxicated condition, he walked or fell off the bank of the river near the bridge over which he had just passed,and was drowned. His hat, oil can, and a package of tea were found on the bank where be is supposed to have gone off. His body was found about twenty rods below about two days after the accident. It is alleged that the liquor upon which he became intoxicated was furnished him at the hotel kept by the defendant in the village of Rossie. The jury give a verdict against the defendant for $27 without cost. Gouverneur Press April 28, 1886 -Michael O'Shea, 60 yean of age, came up missing in Rossie last week Wednesday. His hat and kesoene oil can were found on the shore of the Indian river, leading to the supposition that he was drowned. Saturday, par ties were dragging the river near Dayton's rapids in search of the body. Mr. O'Shea was a tailor, and sometimes indulged in a little too much drinlk. The body was recovered Saturday night. The Ogdensburg Advance & St. Lawrence Weekly Democrat Ogdensburg, New York Thursday January 27, 1887 THE O'SHEA CASE. A good deal of interest centered in this case especially by the residents of the western portion of county as the defendant, Geo. McLear, until lately proprietor of a hotel in Rossier is very well known. The plaintiff was Amy O'Shea and the suit was under the "civil damage act" It was brought by the plaintiff to recover for the loss of her husband, Michael O'Shea, who was drowned in Indian River, near the village of Rossie, while in a state of intoxication, on the night of the 21 gt of April last. The deceased a tailor by trade, was returning from the village of Rossie to his home about two miles distant on the night in question, and it was alleged that in consequence of his intoxicated condition he walked or fell off the bank of the river near the bridge over which he had just passed, and was drowned. His hat, oil can and a package of tea were found on the bank where he is supposed to have gone off. His body was found twenty rods below, two days after the accident. It was alleged that the liquor upon which he became intoxicated was furnished him at the hotel kept by the defendant in the village of Rossie. The defendant admitted selling the deceased two glasses of liquor, but ????ed that his death was no loss to the plaintiff as he was a worthless fellow and did nothing to support his wife. That in fact he was supported by property owned by his wife. Drawings of the place where the accident occurred were produced which showed the place in question to be a very dangerous spot, and that the town might possibly be liable for the damages if there were any. The trial was commenced Monday afternoon, Jan. 17th, and lasted through Wednesday. After being out a considerable while the jury returned a verdict for the plaintiff, fixing the damages at $27. John C. Keeler for plaintiff and Thomas Spratt for defendant Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pata41 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12787.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There are several articles in Saint Lawrence Co. newspapers about the death of Michael O`Shea, a Rossie tailor who drowned in the Indian River in 1886. A few of them tell of a lawsuit brought by his wife in connection with his death. The wife`s name is given as Amy in these articles. Go to http://news.nnyln.net/ & search for "Michael O`Shea" using the quotation marks. To find all of the articles also do a search for "Amy O`Shea" Pat R. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lrcorbett Surnames: Belcher Pierce Lowe Baker James Armstrong Alexander Drewery Carr Parry Clarke Stewart Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/4929.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Joseph and Sarah's son George remained in Belleville, Ontario. He married several times, and his marriages are transcribed on a site http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~maryc/ for Ontario marriages. They both list his mother's maiden name as Sarah Pierce. 010668-16 (Hastings Co) George BELCHER, 48, widower, soldier, England, Barriefield Camp (now CFB Borden) s/o Joseph BELCHER & Sarah PIERCE married Mary Anne LOWE, 47, widow, Wales, Belleville d/o William BAKER & Emma JAMES wtn: A.E. ARMSTRONG & Alice ALEXANDER both of Trenton, 3 August 1916 at Trenton 11606-25 George BELCHER, 66, labourer, widower, England, 82 East Morice (?) Belleville, s/o Joseph BELCHER (b. England) & Sarah PIERCE, married Effie Lavina DREWERY, 63, widow, Sidney Tp., 82 East Morice Belleville, d/o Dennis CARR (b. England) & Augusta PARRY, witn: Katherine Mary CLARKE & Jane STEWART both of 44 Everett St. Belleville on 31 Nov. 1925 at Belleville. George appears in the 1901 Ontario Census, living in the City of Belleville, with a wife and daughter: 1 233 Belcher George M Head M Nov 9 1859 42 2 233 Belcher Mary A F Wife M Apr 1 1861 40 3 233 Belcher Annie F Daughter S Dec 2 1885 16 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: matthewparsnick Surnames: O'Shea Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12787/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am searching for any information on Michael O'Shea and his wife, whose name was either Constantia or Conchessa (I don't know her maiden name). They were listed as living in Philadelphia, Jefferson County, New York in the 1850 census and the 1860 census. Michael was from Ireland Constantia/Conchessa was born in New York according to the census information. Michael was a tailor. The family eventually moved to Rossie in Saint Lawrence County, and Michael is buried there in St. Patrick's cemetery. I would appreciate any information that anyone may have about this family. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: billys55chevy Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12786.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank all of you for the links. I knew a lot of links for my area but not in NY. Was sort of out of my depth there. With these links i should be able to find what i am looking for. Everyone has been very helpful. Thank you very much! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pcarey99 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12786.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Look at these free online resources. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nystlawr/index.html this is a database of old newspaper articles from the north country. you can search by county and will find obits, birth notices, etc. http://nnygenealogy.com/ a treasure trove of northern new york family information, searchable. http://fultonhistory.com another larger database of old newspaper articles (different newspapers than the other one) this covers a lot of upstate newyork newspapers, so pay attention to the ones printed in watertown, adams, - the jefferson county area. you will find lots of mention of Belchers - some may be yours. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: splingedog Surnames: Smith Dulmage Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/3253.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My Great Uncle emigrated to the U.S.A. and settled in Clayton in 1911. Here he married Sadie M Dulmage. Born.1898. Her father was Thomas Dulmage. Born.1847. I beleave Thomas fought in the cival war.My Great Uncle, Herbert E Smith, and Sadie, had a son, Raymond E Smith. Born.1923. Is there a connection between us? Please could you let me know. Mark James Smith. woodbinejersey@hotmail.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: billys55chevy Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/4929.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank You so much for that link. It is going to be just the thing i need. I have newspaper archives at home but it dosnt cover this paper. But it is set up the same for the search patterns. With this i should be able to take off on my own. Once again THANK YOU! Your an angel. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Kathydon217 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12786.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I saw that her name was Susan M on the 1930 census,too. But the obit for George says he is survived by his wife, Setha Robbins who he married in 1920 and a daughter, Veda. On this site www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nyjeffer/ has a cemetery record for her. Search Belcher First hit is the cemetery records-Barlett's Pamelia. There are several Belcher's buried there including Setha Belcher and Susan M Belcher and others in your family. Kathy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: billys55chevy Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12786.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Well the info i have i got from the 1930 Jefferson Watertwon dist 73 list George H Belcher age 31 (head of house) Susan M Belcher age 37 (wife) Veda V Belcher age 7 (daughter) When he was in the house with John E and Lula Belcher his birth was about 1901. But now that i look i see what you mean. I didnt notice the Susan M Belcher in the Watertown cemetery was born in 1868. Which is way to old for the Susan M that was married to George Henry Belcher. I guess i just noticed the name was the same. Thank you for pointing that out. That was a major screw up on my part. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Kathydon217 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12786.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I think that the Susan M Belcher(1868-1961) you have as the wife of George is actually the wife of Thomas Belcher. I think that george's wife was Setha Belcher(1890-1947) Kathy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Kathydon217 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/4929.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for the offer but all my family descend from the New England and New York State areas. Here are 2 websites that have info on them. You will have to sort the info as I think there are other Belchers in the same area. They may be related. www.fultonhistory.com search in quotes "Thomas Belcher" #38 article about wife, Susan "Joseph Belcher" "Joseph W Belcher" Obit for Agnes(?? Ist wife of Joseph" Obit for him "John E Belcher" Obit "Sarah Belcher" Obit #5 (1916) #15 marriage "Gilbert Cardwell" Article about his death in 1901 Most articles are in the Watertown papers. ___________________________________________________________ http://news.nnyln.net/ Click on Jefferson County and search in quotes "Thomas Belcher" "John E Belcher" "John Belcher" __________________________________________________________ These are only a few names I tried so try your other names, too. ___________________________________________________________ On the obit for Sarah Belcher Cardwell her daughter's name is Catherine Baker which is different from the name on her brothers'obits(Catherine Danielson). She probably was married twice. ___________________________________________________________ There is also an article on a James and Esther Belcher. Both born in England. Perhaps he could be a brother to Joseph. They seem to be the same age and both came to Canada and then to Watertown. Something to check out. May be no connection at all. If you search "James Belcher" on the fultonhistory site #34 tells a little about them. ___________________________________________________________ Kathy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: billys55chevy Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/4929.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you so much! If you ever need anything in the West Virginia Area let me know. Im very close to the Archives and go there quite a lot. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Kathydon217 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/4929.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: That was just a notice of marriage on a website. The actual marriage certificate may have that info on it. I found out some more info for you. John Belcher was born in Belleville, Ontario Joseph and Sarah Belcher, both born in England were his parents. The children of Joseph and Sarah were Joseph Belcher, Watertown Thomas Belcher, Watertown John Belcher, Watertown George Belcher, Belleville, Ont Catherine Danielson, Huntington, Indiana The addresses of the last 4 were of 1924 from the obit for Joseph. I found the obit for John and Joseph and will post the link so you can read them. Kathy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.