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    1. [NYJEFFER-L] Another CASLER Mystery
    2. FamHistory
    3. Hello all, Since I'm not sure if this message actually processed through the mailing lists due to an error on my part I've decided to resend it -- I apoligize if you have already seen this. While I'm not sure if I link back to the Herkimer Casler's or not I thought I'd post this in hopes that some of these name ring a bell with someone. So here goes -- most of the following has been transcribed from a book on Wisconsin History. Jared/John/Jacob CASLER (wife unknown) a native of New York and of German descent was reportedly a soldier in the Revolution. He was the father of five children and reportedly lived to be ninety years old. One of his children Henry CASLER was a blacksmith by trade and died about 1842 in Turin, Lewis Co., NY. Henry married Marigrit Dingman daughter of Geradus/Jared DINGMAN (Gerardus DINGMAN was badly wounded in Revolution, became totally blind and lived for forty years without his sight). Henry and Mary had a family of seven children; Edgar S., Daujel D., Angeline and Sarah (other names unknown). The eldest child Edgar S. CASLER was reportedly born in Watertown, NY, Jan 15, 1824. Edgar's youth was spent in Jefferson Co., NY. He apprenticed in wagon making and moved west in 1854 to settle in Janesville, Rock Co., Wis. In 1847, while still in NY, Edgar CASLER married Zenana DAMON, daughter of Noah and Betsy (CLEVERLY) DAMON, they had two children, Ellen and Matilda. Zenana died in 1850 and in 1851 Edgar married Theodosia BENNETT, daughter of Larry and Mary BENNETT. Eight children were born of this union: Clara, Lucy, Alma, Jennie, Nellie, Ida, Henry and Ernest. Any help trying to track down more information on this Casler line would be greatly appreciated. The printed reference I'm quoting from refers to the elder as Jared Casler -- but I have a feeling this name is incorrect. Additionally, while I have received confirmation of Zenana (Damon) Casler's burial in Turin -- I found nothing to confirm Henry and Marigrit (Mary) ever lived or died in Turin. The closest I've come is a cemetery reference for outside Flemming, NY where there is a Henry and Mary Casler (both died in 1857). So once again the book the above is from seems a bit suspect. Judy

    09/26/1999 11:34:53
    1. [NYJEFFER-L] Re: Undeliverable Mail
    2. Nancy Dixon
    3. > > > Jeremiah Rockwell HUNGERFORD m. Eliza FULLER. Their ch: > > > Charles, > > > Marie m. James BIGWOOD; > > > Polly b. 1830; Ada Minerva b. 1831, Berkshire, MA m. Charles W. CHENEY; > > > Laura b. 1836, MA m. Unknown CHENEY; > > > Thomas Rockwell b. 1840 NY m. Polly SOUTHWELL, m/2 Alice Richards in MI; > > > Hiram b. 1838 m. Betsy SOUTHWELL, sister to Polly. > > > > > > Thomas (my ancestor) had dau. Sarah who m. Jesse SCHOOLCRAFT. > > > > > > I'd like to contact researchers of these families. > > > > > > Marilyn in Michigan > > > > I am posting this to the list to make a point. Marilyn, this is a great > > family for our Jefferson county pioneers, and perhaps posting it there > > also will bring you more contacts. If you would like to send me the > > information, I'll format it and see that it gets up. I know we are way > > behind in our postings, but with the end of summer (tomorrow!) perhaps we > > can find our way back to a reasonable routine, and a reasonable schedule > > for posting data. > > > > Also: Jefferson County New York Genealogical Society (JCNYGS) really > > needs queries for their newsletter, the "Informer." They are free: just > > send them to jcnygs@imcnet.net These will reach an audience most of > > which is not on the internet. > > > > Nan Dixon -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyjeffer/

    09/22/1999 11:58:23
    1. Re: [NYJEFFER-L] SHAW's in Quebec, Ontario and Jefferson Co., NY
    2. Mark Wentling
    3. Carol, Do you have mention of a Merrick Shaw living in say 1880-1930 in Jefferson County? Mark

    09/22/1999 09:59:59
    1. [NYJEFFER-L] SHAW's in Quebec, Ontario and Jefferson Co., NY
    2. Carol Covington
    3. Hi Everybody, I'm new to this list so I thought that I would post my line. I am looking for any decendents of any of the below who would like to share information. 1.John SHAW b. 1795 married Ann ROGERSON daughter of John and Mary ROGERSON John and Ann's Children: 2. John SHAW b. 1819 married Clarissa ALBRIGHT and Mary Ann HUTTON 2. James SHAW b. 1821 married Catherine PAYNE 2. Betsey SHAW b. 1822 2. Richard SHAW b. 1824 married Mary JOHNSON 2. William SHAW b. 1825 married Agnes CAMERON 2. Ann SHAW b. 1827 2. Henry SHAW b. 1829 2. Sarah Rachel SHAW b. 1831 married George CORBETT 2. Stephen G. Shaw b. 1833 married Barbara M. SNELL 2. Maria SHAW b. 1836 2. Rebecca SHAW b. 1837 2. George Wilson Shaw b. 1840 married Cornelia McBRIDE and Anna M. WEBB First Seven Children born in Swine, Yorkshire, England Next five children born in St. Andrews, Argenteuil, Quebec. John and Ann Shaw lived there later years in Smith Falls, Ontario, Canada. * We know that Sarah married George Corbett in Watertown, NY then moved to Smith Falls, Ontario Canada. * Stephen moved to the area between Adams Center, NY and Watertown, NY where he married and lived the rest of his life. * Maria we found a church record for in Watertown, saying that she was dismissed from the Church. * George we know moved to Watertown married twice and lived the rest of his life. * We do have more details on the lines of John Shaw, Jr, Sarah Rachel Shaw and Stephen G. Shaw. If anyone can add to any details or are decendents of any of the above, we would love to share information with you. Thanks Carol cov@cyberia.com

    09/22/1999 09:44:46
    1. [NYJEFFER-L] Montague's and Shaw's in Watertown
    2. Carol Covington
    3. Hi, I am looking for any one related to Grace B. Shaw who married Walter T. Montague. I know that around 1947 they were living on Leray St. in Watertown. Grace's parents were David S. Shaw and Edith Mae Parker from Adams Center, NY. I am interested in finding any decendents to share geneaology information with. If anyone can help I would appreciate it. Please email me. Thank you Carol cov@cyberia.com

    09/22/1999 09:36:51
    1. [NYJEFFER-L] HUNGERFORD, SCHOOLCRAFT, FULLER, BIGWOOD, CHENEY
    2. Jeremiah Rockwell HUNGERFORD m. Eliza FULLER. Their ch: Charles, Marie m. James BIGWOOD; Polly b. 1830; Ada Minerva b. 1831, Berkshire, MA m. Charles W. CHENEY; Laura b. 1836, MA m. Unknown CHENEY; Thomas Rockwell b. 1840 NY m. Polly SOUTHWELL, m/2 Alice Richards in MI; Hiram b. 1838 m. Betsy SOUTHWELL, sister to Polly. Thomas (my ancestor) had dau. Sarah who m. Jesse SCHOOLCRAFT. I'd like to contact researchers of these families. Marilyn in Michigan

    09/22/1999 04:00:46
    1. [NYJEFFER-L] CRONK, DeLAWYER, HAVENS mid 1800s
    2. Carol Martin
    3. Hello, I am new to this list and am looking for anyone with any info at all on the following: 1. Charles Sumyer (Sumner) CRONK, b. 1873 Jefferson County NY, m. Frances Belle DeLAWYER. Charles was son of: 2. Samuel CRONK, b. 1845 St. Lawrence County NY, m. Flora HAVENS. Samuel was son of: 3. Elijah CRONK. b. 1800 Vermont, m. Marcia _____. Might you recognize these folks? Thanks very much, Carol Martin carolmorgain@earthlink.net

    09/21/1999 10:02:09
    1. [NYJEFFER-L] THOMAS J. BARTON
    2. Donna Merrill
    3. >Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 21:10:58 -0500 >To: <PAERIE-L@rootsweb.com> >From: Donna Merrill <dmerrill@fastlane.net> >Subject: THOMAS J. BARTON > >Thomas J. BARTON b. 3 Jul 1805 in Dutchess Co., NY. He married 28 Apr 1825 in Richland, Oswego Co., NY to Rhoda N. CALKINS. They lived in Jefferson Co., NY from 1826-1836 then migrated to Oneida Co., NY by 1840 and left there about 1855 to Erie Co., PA. Their children were: >George W. b. 19 Feb 1826 in Jefferson Co., NY >William M. b. 2 May 1827 in Jefferson Co., NY md. Arvilla M. PUTNEY >George W. b. 27 Mar 1829 in Jefferson Co., NY md. 1)Margaret ORR 2) Sophia ORR >Jane Marie b. 12 Nov 1831 in " " " md. Andrew FRAIZER >Lewis b. 2 Apr 1834 in " " " >John Elias b. 18 Feb 1836 in " " " md. Nancy SMITH >Sarah M. b. 3 Oct 1838 in Oneida Co., NY md. Charles NEWSHAM >Helen S. b. 29 MAr 1840 in " " " >Thomas P. b. 9 Sep 1843 " " " md. Caroline BRACE >Julia Estrella b. 13 Jun 1845 in Oneida Co., NY md. Jacob RIPLEY >Franklin Henry b. 30 Sep 1847 " " " md. Louvisa CLINGANSMITH >Charles H. b. 7 Dec 1849 " " " >James b. 5 Jan 1853 in " " " md. Irene DUMAN/DENUM >Frederick J. b. 16 Jul 1854 in " " " md. Mary Emma FOURNEY > >Would like to correspond with anyone working on this family!!! > >Donna Barton Merrill >dmerrill@fastlane.net >

    09/20/1999 07:20:37
    1. [NYJEFFER-L] Jefferson Co NY Maillists, Query Bulletin Boards & Genealogy Homepages
    2. Gord Hines [SK]
    3. Hi listmembers -- I compiled this list of website/maillist urls for Jefferson County, NY to assist another researcher who was new to the www. Others might benefit from this information as well... so here it is. [N.B.: This list excludes "personal" JeffCo county homepages that focus on one individual's families or surnames] No slight is intended to the many other NY counties that no doubt have similar maillists and website homepages -- nor to any personal JeffCo sites not in this listing. There are several Jefferson County (aka JeffCo) lists to chose from. None are very active, so I subscribe to all of them (see #1, 2, 3 listed below). I also have queries posted on the other JeffCo sites that do NOT have maillists (see #3, 4, 5 listed below). #3 is an exception -- it has both. It also has the greatest amount of JeffCo data online plus a large # of relevant related links. N.B. The JeffCo Cemetery link for lookups (see #3 below). <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Jefferson Co Maillists (pure and simple) 1. http://www.egroups.com/group/jeffcofamhis/info.html List is explained at above url. A subscribe link is on the same page above. You can see postings to this list at http://www.egroups.com/list/jeffcofamhis/ 2. http://www.onelist.com/community/jeffhistgen [96 members as at today] List is explained at above url and can join there too. You can also join this list via links on the page at http://home.imcnet.net/~lectrich/jmailingl.htm There is another "general interest" list for Jefferson Co at http://www.onelist.com/community/jeffcountyny [71 members today] Jefferson Co genealogy web homepage site with JeffCo Maillist & Query board: 3. http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyjeffer/ Maillist Subscribe link is also on the page i.e. mailto: NYJEFFER-L-request@rootsweb.com with one word only as the Subject: Subscribe The above homepage also has a link to a Queries bulletin board NOTE: The JeffCo Cemeteries lookup page is hard to locate on this site but it is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyjeffer/cemdex.htm Jefferson Co websites with query postings but NO county maillists 4. http://www.genexchange.com/ny/jefferson/ The webpage above also has many links to other Jeffco data 5. http://www.usgennet.org/~ahnyjeff/jefferson.htm The webpage above also has a subscribe link for a new "NY-ALHN" list -- but this is NOT just Jefferson Co. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> I hope these might lead some of you with Jefferson Co roots to many interesting hours of research on your JeffCo connections ... and to some breakthroughs too!! // Regards, Gord (in Regina SK Canada)

    09/17/1999 04:15:33
    1. Re: [NYJEFFER-L] School Records
    2. I called but they did not know. Gave me some numbers to try. Will let you know if I have any success. I have my husbands from Montgomery, Alabama so I thought they might be available in Watertown. Will keep trying. Dorothy Beasley

    09/09/1999 10:56:27
    1. Re: [NYJEFFER-L] School Records
    2. Nancy Dixon
    3. Dbzly@aol.com wrote: > > Where would I find school records for late 1920s for Lansing Street School, > Watertown,Jefferson,NY? You might try Watertown City School System, 376 Butterfield Ave, Watertown NY 13601. If you are successful, please share the information. I've never contacted them. Nan Dixon -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyjeffer/

    09/07/1999 09:16:20
    1. [NYJEFFER-L] School Records
    2. Where would I find school records for late 1920s for Lansing Street School, Watertown,Jefferson,NY? Dorothy Beasley dbzly@aol.com

    09/07/1999 02:45:20
    1. BAKER, DIXON, KANE; BrownvilleNY; 1800s+
    2. Pat Powers Schlesinger
    3. A "trip diary [some pages] - Erie PA to Watertown & Brownville, via NYC 1867", handwritten in pencil, by Elvira Ada KANE WEIGEL. Thought some of the names mentioned might be interesting for other searchers as being in Watertown or Brownville at a specific time ... sending a rough of the names as I took them from the pages... also some passages ... Apparently Elvira had a grand time in NY with daughter, Ada Elvira WEIGEL 1863 Brownville-1947 NutleyNJ, a 5 yr old, in tow and they went from morn til night, concerts, lectures, parks, fish market, museums, Barnums "freaks", and then the irony ... "we went to see H Powers sculptures," a reference I believe to Hiram POWERS (whose Greek Slave is in the Brooklyn Museum of Art) and whose work in the US Capitol was in vogue at the time ... so can you imagine that 25 yrs later, Ada Elvira married a Hiram cousin, John Orville POWERS and they were my grandparents. BTW I've been able to find the ads/notices for some of the events she attended in the New York Times and that makes it fun too. Names in diary are: BROWNVILLE: Mrs Zain, Oscar, Charles' grave (her brother), Mr J Norton's grave, he remarried; Royal Wilcox, George Knight - also recent deaths?; Forward, Basin St, blacksmith; Kornks???, Sniender (could this be Skinner?), Mr Houghton, Mrs Sp, George Weaver and Elizabeth Walsh, Bridie Brenner w/ 3 wk baby, Mrs W Bosch or Mrs Lord, John Ayers (overnight here) and Ella Ayers. Lucinda (as old as Gram) in fr Chicago Mrs Sp Aunt Aliza and Cap, left Tamplier?? or Lamplus?? (ship) Shaws or Sharon's in Syracuse. DEXTER: Kimball, shoemaker, on Factory St (quite close to former home of UC KANE and family); had apple trees - some died - in front yard. Another Kimball of Canal and Brown Gram and Sarah, a weaver A...?? w/ baby due W Melvina and Brady Mr Hurst (could this be Hunt?) w Melvina and Mary or Brady going west WATERTOWN: Sloats; Flora w/vehicle; Mrs Johnson & Clara, Mr Hall (stayed here); Jake, Mrs W(aite), Mrs Laird, Lil, W'TOWN or B'VILLE: Washburns (overnight) ".... saw beds that swing by machines and walking and talking dolls worth twenty-five dollars..... Barnum's Museum. the famous Gorilla, only one ever captured alive, it cost Barnum eight thou! Saw a fat baby, four years old and weighed over two hundred lbs, its name was Sammy and it was the crossest child I ever saw, albino children, a giantess seven ft 8in tall. went into a milliners shop where they sold plumes very cheap... saw black silk robes valued at one hundred & seventy-five dollars, dident buy. Went through fish market, never saw such a sight or smelt such a smell in my life, couldn't stand it, but a few minutes. heard Dodsworth's band,... have found out that a short distance in NY varies from three to six miles. Went into A J Stewart wholesale store. It is a ... market five stories high.... passed the Evening Post building, it is immense, six stories high, to hear Beecher. The sermon was the best I ever heard. The audience was alternately moved to smiles and tears... ...expecting to go to Watertown on four o'clock train, concluded to wait until six and take a sleeping car to avoid changing at Albany and Rensselear. ...started for Sloats...astonished to see us... Flora came over with a vehicle to take us over. Found Mrs Johnson and Clara there. Mr Hall's people having gone to NJ, Flora was of course left in charge of the baby. I was disappointed as I expected Flora to go to B'ville and Dexter with us. Clara Johnson has grown wonderfully. Mrs J looks just as she did. Flora must like to take care of the baby. It was very ( ) on account of its red hair I suppose. Called on Mrs W (Almira Waite) in the evening...looks very feeble....Someone said they went to see Lil or April??? first. Stayed at Halls all night. Saw Mrs Zain?? or Laird??, went to Oscar's to dinner. They were astonished at seeing us. Went to the graveyard to see my baby's and Charles' grave, found some rose bushes set out. Several new graves of people that I didn't know were dead. Mrs J Norton's, he is married again. Royal Wilcox, George Knight - died lately with... After leaving the graveyard, went to our old home. The house looks natural but it seems as if something was lacking in the yard. Mr Forward said that several apple trees in the front yard had died, otherwise it was the same; inside the house, it looked so different .... Mrs Forward said she had saved some seeds for Ma and meant to write soon. ... next went up to Hornks??? with me to see Lucinda (Lucinda Kane?), she looks as old as Gram with her teeth all out. Grammi thinks she came back on purpose to get new teeth expecting to go back to Chicago and _____ a Dr there but he couldn't wait and married soon after she left I suppose if she hadn't her old teeth out she never would not have new ones now. Called on Mrs Sp... her baby has been quite sick. She looks old and care worn. George Weaver and Elizabeth Walch were married and started for Niagara the night before. Bridie Brener?? just left for NJ with a baby three weeks old. Called on Mrs W Lord. She went up to John Ayers as Lucinda thought - he would take us to Dexter.... Mrs Ayers made herself very agreeable. Ella is rather more thoughtful than she used to be. I sent word to Kimball's folks. Gruna??? and Sarah were astonished to see us. G was happy as she had just commenced weaving 50 yards of carpeting for Mr Houghton of Bville. She had just got the loom set up in the kitchen. Went to see Aunt Eliza... The Cap was at home, had considerable whiskey aboard. He has left the Tamplier?? or Lamplus??? He didn't know we had left Watertown. Melvina and Mary were expecting to go West?? next week as W had ... If anyone knows if the carpet was finished I'd love to hear about it! Look forward to hearing from some of the families mentioned. Also looking for info to fill out this line: 1 Daniel B Baker 02 Dec 1793 Philadelphia JeffersonCoNY-13 Apr 1855 Hounsfield, JeffCoNY . +Nancy Dixon b: 31 December 1801 m: Abt 1817 d: 25 December 1883 ..2 Mary Ann Baker b: 1819 Hounsfield?, JeffCoNY d: 1890 Hannibal RallsCoMO .. +Uriah (Uriel) C Kane b: August 1815 Brownville JeffCoNY/SchagticokeNY m: 1835 Brownville, Jeff Co NY d: Aft 27 December 1901 Hannibal RallsCoMO ...3 Emma C Kane b: 1840 Brownville (Watertown) NY .... +James Wright Sloat b: Abt 1837 Ohio m: December 1869 Brownville NY ....4 Jessie Sloat b: Abt 1870 ....4 Harry Sloat b: Abt 1872 ....4 Jenny Sloat b: Abt 1873 Wisconsin ...3 Elvira Ada Kane b: 1843 BrownvilleNY d: 08 April 1872 AnokaMN ... Samuel Mann Weigel b: 15 December 1830 YorkCoPA m: 15 December 1862 BrownvilleNY d: 12 March 1909 SanRaphaelCA ....4 InfantSonS Weigel b: 27 June 1861 Brownville (Watertown) NY d: 23 July 1862 Brownville (Watertown) NY ....4 Ada Elvira Weigel 30 May 1863 BrownvilleNY-10 Oct 1947 NutleyNJ .... +John Orville Powers 23 Jul 1868 SheffieldENG-17 Jul 1937 NutleyNJ m: 14 Apr 1897 San FranciscoCA ....4 Ernest Eugene Weigel b: 05 August 1870 Anoka MN d: 23 May 1941 Oakland CA .... +Ida Isabel Bookstaver b: 04 May 1876 San Francisco CA m: 1891 On ship in SF Bay d: 28 July 1924 Piedmont CA ...3 Charles H Kane 1845 BrownvilleNY-03 Aug 1865 BrownvilleNY ...3 Ernest Uriah Kane 24 Jan 1850 BrownvilleNY-17 Jan 1927 BentonAK ... +Sara Elizabeth Morris c1855 DE-c1885 RallsCoMO m: 22 Mar 1874 RallsCo Missouri ...3 William Eugene Kane c1855 BrownvilleNY-?? HannibalMO ... +Alice Blair c1855 OH=-?? HannibalMO m: 10 Nov 1877 RallsCoMO ....4 Nellie M Kane b: Abt 1879 Ralls Co MO The BAKER, DIXON and Uriah (Uriel) KANE ancestors would be most interesting. Much thanks, Pat Patricia Powers Schlesinger New Hampton NH

    09/07/1999 02:01:00
    1. Re: [NYJEFFER-L] State census
    2. Nancy Dixon
    3. Pam Thomson wrote: > > > Also interested in 1825 & 1835 state census for MArtin. > > A kind researcher did send the citation for the 1820 census. > > > How does one access these state censuses? Can we ask for lookups > somewhere? > Thanks, > Pam > Looking for traces of Edward, Persis, Elizabeth & Edward Dolan > 1800-1850, Sackets Harbor/Hounsfield. > -- > Pam Thomson of BC, Canada > New email address: as of August > pamthom@intergate.bc.ca We have no census look ups at present. Most NYS censuses are available through interlibrary loan. Ask your reference librarian, or consult your nearest Family History Center of the LDS church. Nan Dixon -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyjeffer/

    09/06/1999 06:27:34
    1. [NYJEFFER-L] State census
    2. Pam Thomson
    3. > Also interested in 1825 & 1835 state census for MArtin. > A kind researcher did send the citation for the 1820 census. > How does one access these state censuses? Can we ask for lookups somewhere? Thanks, Pam Looking for traces of Edward, Persis, Elizabeth & Edward Dolan 1800-1850, Sackets Harbor/Hounsfield. -- Pam Thomson of BC, Canada New email address: as of August pamthom@intergate.bc.ca

    09/06/1999 12:48:47
    1. Re: [NYJEFFER-L] Flick
    2. Spunky
    3. SessaI, I have been giving this some thought since I read your request, Here is a little more on the Flicks. I ran into Shirley about ten years ago, She was working in the grocery store in Depaueville. Dickey, I heard was liveing in Watertown, Mickey died when he was about 35 from Cancer. I do not know where he was buried, If I think of anything else I'll let you know. "Spunky" Don SessaI@aol.com wrote: > Don, thank you very much for your input. This is the first info I have > received that tells me the Flick family did exist. Have a great day. Connie > > ============================== > Search the Social Security Death Index online for FREE! > http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > The most powerful SSDI search engine on the Internet!

    09/06/1999 07:09:22
    1. Re: [NYJEFFER-L] Flick
    2. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. You are a gift from Heaven. Connie

    09/06/1999 01:21:01
    1. Re: [NYJEFFER-L] Theresa,Jeff.Cty., N.Y.
    2. Thank you again. I will check into it. ConnieNY

    09/06/1999 12:36:50
    1. Re: [NYJEFFER-L] Flick
    2. Don, thank you very much for your input. This is the first info I have received that tells me the Flick family did exist. Have a great day. Connie

    09/06/1999 12:14:00
    1. [NYJEFFER-L] Re; Martin RICE & family of Allendale, Lorraine twp
    2. Nancy
    3. Any info appreciated re Martin Rice, wife Sarah Ford & children at Allendale, Lorraine twp, Jerfferson Co ny 1820 census- ca 1838 moved to Warren Co, NY to be near children. especially interested in child Amos b MA ca 1801 and if he had a son Leonard b 1832 NY. Is Sarah Rice buried there. Wondering iif anyone does cemetery lookups? Also interested in 1825 & 1835 state census for MArtin. A kind researcher did send the citation for the 1820 census. Thanks, Nancy J Silkey

    09/05/1999 08:09:34