Thank you Michael. I am looking for the marriage of my gg grandparents, Henry M. PATTEN and Bathsheba (Betsey) VAN HOUCK. I believe it took place at Sackets Harbor around 1838-1840. I am especially interested in the parentage of Bathsheba if that information is available. Thank you very much. Jerry Quick -----Original Message----- From: Michael Jackman <mmjackman@my-deja.com> To: NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 6:45 AM Subject: [NYJEFFER-L] Grooms & Brides of Jeff. Co. >Hi, Folks: > > This is just a message to all listers whom requested look-ups in the Grooms and Brides of Jefferson County book. I made my monthly visit to the NYPL over the holidays, but was dismayed to find that they are in the process of moving all their books and materials down to the first floor. The move will be done by the end of the week, and I hope to get back to the library very soon. I'm sorry this is taking so long, but I wanted to let everybody know that I haven't disappeared. In fact, I'm still taking requests! > >Best, > > Michael Jackman, P.O. Box 3663 > Grand Central Station, New York, NY 10163 > > > >--== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- >Share what you know. Learn what you don't. > > >============================== >Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. >RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi >

Hi, Folks: This is just a message to all listers whom requested look-ups in the Grooms and Brides of Jefferson County book. I made my monthly visit to the NYPL over the holidays, but was dismayed to find that they are in the process of moving all their books and materials down to the first floor. The move will be done by the end of the week, and I hope to get back to the library very soon. I'm sorry this is taking so long, but I wanted to let everybody know that I haven't disappeared. In fact, I'm still taking requests! Best, Michael Jackman, P.O. Box 3663 Grand Central Station, New York, NY 10163 --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

Hi Don, I do not know of the Orth family but from my own experience in finding ancestors,you very well could be on the right track. The Anglo spelling of Johannes was indeed John. -----Original Message----- From: Don C. Orth <dco122@rc.gc.ca> To: NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 8:47 PM Subject: [NYJEFFER-L] John (Johannes) Orth >January 4, 1999 > >Hi Folks: > >The 1850 Census indicates a John Orth living in Pamelia, Jefferson County, and the 1860 Census indicates a John Orth living in Alexandria, Jefferson County. Does anyone have any information concerning this individual(s)? I am attempting to locate the brother (Johannes Orth) of my great-great-great grandfather and who apparently settled in New York state around 1847. He came from Fuerstengrund, Hessen, Germany. Perhaps this is the person for whom I am searching. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > >Don C.Orth >Ottawa, Ontario. >dco122@rc.gc.ca > > >============================== >The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: >12.8 million individuals and counting. >http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > >

Correction that is Brownville Village Cerk There is a difference in the two ones the township and the other is for the village. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jere Hagadorn <jere@mpinet.net> To: <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 4:56 PM Subject: [NYJEFFER-L] Request for Ino > Can anyone provide me with the mailing address > for the Brownville Town Clerk. I had used PO > Box 89, Brownville, NY 13615 and it was returned > as undeliverable. Thanks for tour help. > Jere Hagadorn > > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > >

I have a phone book that lists BrownvilleVillage Clerk as being at 216 Brown Blvd, Brownville, Ny. 13615 phone no. 315-782-7650 ----- Original Message ----- From: Jere Hagadorn <jere@mpinet.net> To: <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 4:56 PM Subject: [NYJEFFER-L] Request for Ino > Can anyone provide me with the mailing address > for the Brownville Town Clerk. I had used PO > Box 89, Brownville, NY 13615 and it was returned > as undeliverable. Thanks for tour help. > Jere Hagadorn > > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > >

January 4, 1999 Hi Folks: The 1850 Census indicates a John Orth living in Pamelia, Jefferson County, and the 1860 Census indicates a John Orth living in Alexandria, Jefferson County. Does anyone have any information concerning this individual(s)? I am attempting to locate the brother (Johannes Orth) of my great-great-great grandfather and who apparently settled in New York state around 1847. He came from Fuerstengrund, Hessen, Germany. Perhaps this is the person for whom I am searching. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Don C.Orth Ottawa, Ontario. dco122@rc.gc.ca

Jere, I copied from Jefferson County web page all town clerks, etc. It shows June McCartin, Town Clerk of Brownville, Star School Road, PO Box 89, Brownville 13615 Don't understand the return. Tel: 315-639-6266. She is also the Town Historian with same address and telephone number. Florence @ Henderson -----Original Message----- From: Jere Hagadorn <jere@mpinet.net> To: NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 2:00 PM Subject: [NYJEFFER-L] Request for Ino >Can anyone provide me with the mailing address >for the Brownville Town Clerk. I had used PO >Box 89, Brownville, NY 13615 and it was returned >as undeliverable. Thanks for tour help. >Jere Hagadorn > > >============================== >Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > >

Yea sounds familiar. I'm Leona Savage from Belleville. Stoodly's run a funeral home and I think that's his family. The lanes I know are from Henderson. I'm cruising your pages now. :-) Leona ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Wentling <mwentlin@ngs.org> To: <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [NYJEFFER-L] NEW WEBSITE!: From Devon & Dorset, England, to Jefferson County, New York > > > Leona, > > I'm not sure about Belleville, but I am a descendant of the Stoodleys and Lanes > and we all came from Hounsfield. My grandmother was Beulah (Washburn) Jenkins, > daughter of Wm. Washburn & Ada Stokes -- rings a bell? Your name sounds > familiar to me . . . . . > > Try looking at my website http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~legends/welcome.html > where there is *lots* more on these families. > > Mark > > > > > "Leona MacDonald" <leona@solaseireann.com> on 01/04/2000 04:47:03 PM > > Please respond to NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com > > To: NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com > cc: (bcc: Mark Wentling/HQ/NGS) > Subject: Re: [NYJEFFER-L] NEW WEBSITE!: From Devon & Dorset, England, to > Jefferson County, New York > > > > > hey that wouldn't be the stoodly, harris, lane families from the belleville > area would it?? > > Leona > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mark Wentling <mwentlin@ngs.org> > To: <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 10:39 AM > Subject: [NYJEFFER-L] NEW WEBSITE!: From Devon & Dorset, England, to > Jefferson County, New York > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > As many of you may know, there were a lot 19th-century emigrants from > Devon & > > Dorset, England, to Jefferson County, New York. Today, I created a site I > call > > "ACROSS THE GREAT DIVIDE" which is a place where the origins of these > families > > as well as their intermarriages are made clear. Currently, I have posted > > information about the following families: > > > > -- Eveleigh > > -- Harris > > -- Lane > > -- Membery > > -- Orchard > > -- Reader > > -- Russell > > -- Stokes > > -- Stoodley > > > > The website address is: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~legends/greatdivide.html > > > > I hope to hear from lots of folks with information to submit -- I hope > that > > eventually the site will serve as a means for reconnecting us descendants > of > > those Jefferson County pioneers with our British cousins, and vice versa. > > > > Good luck! > > > > Sincerley, > > Mark A. Wentling > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > > > > > > > > > ============================== > The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > 12.8 million individuals and counting. > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > >

Can anyone provide me with the mailing address for the Brownville Town Clerk. I had used PO Box 89, Brownville, NY 13615 and it was returned as undeliverable. Thanks for tour help. Jere Hagadorn

hey that wouldn't be the stoodly, harris, lane families from the belleville area would it?? Leona ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Wentling <mwentlin@ngs.org> To: <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 10:39 AM Subject: [NYJEFFER-L] NEW WEBSITE!: From Devon & Dorset, England, to Jefferson County, New York > > > Hi all, > > As many of you may know, there were a lot 19th-century emigrants from Devon & > Dorset, England, to Jefferson County, New York. Today, I created a site I call > "ACROSS THE GREAT DIVIDE" which is a place where the origins of these families > as well as their intermarriages are made clear. Currently, I have posted > information about the following families: > > -- Eveleigh > -- Harris > -- Lane > -- Membery > -- Orchard > -- Reader > -- Russell > -- Stokes > -- Stoodley > > The website address is: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~legends/greatdivide.html > > I hope to hear from lots of folks with information to submit -- I hope that > eventually the site will serve as a means for reconnecting us descendants of > those Jefferson County pioneers with our British cousins, and vice versa. > > Good luck! > > Sincerley, > Mark A. Wentling > > > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > >

Leona, I'm not sure about Belleville, but I am a descendant of the Stoodleys and Lanes and we all came from Hounsfield. My grandmother was Beulah (Washburn) Jenkins, daughter of Wm. Washburn & Ada Stokes -- rings a bell? Your name sounds familiar to me . . . . . Try looking at my website http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~legends/welcome.html where there is *lots* more on these families. Mark "Leona MacDonald" <leona@solaseireann.com> on 01/04/2000 04:47:03 PM Please respond to NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com To: NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com cc: (bcc: Mark Wentling/HQ/NGS) Subject: Re: [NYJEFFER-L] NEW WEBSITE!: From Devon & Dorset, England, to Jefferson County, New York hey that wouldn't be the stoodly, harris, lane families from the belleville area would it?? Leona ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Wentling <mwentlin@ngs.org> To: <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 10:39 AM Subject: [NYJEFFER-L] NEW WEBSITE!: From Devon & Dorset, England, to Jefferson County, New York > > > Hi all, > > As many of you may know, there were a lot 19th-century emigrants from Devon & > Dorset, England, to Jefferson County, New York. Today, I created a site I call > "ACROSS THE GREAT DIVIDE" which is a place where the origins of these families > as well as their intermarriages are made clear. Currently, I have posted > information about the following families: > > -- Eveleigh > -- Harris > -- Lane > -- Membery > -- Orchard > -- Reader > -- Russell > -- Stokes > -- Stoodley > > The website address is: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~legends/greatdivide.html > > I hope to hear from lots of folks with information to submit -- I hope that > eventually the site will serve as a means for reconnecting us descendants of > those Jefferson County pioneers with our British cousins, and vice versa. > > Good luck! > > Sincerley, > Mark A. Wentling > > > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. http://pml.rootsweb.com/ Brought to you by RootsWeb.com.

Hi all, As many of you may know, there were a lot 19th-century emigrants from Devon & Dorset, England, to Jefferson County, New York. Today, I created a site I call "ACROSS THE GREAT DIVIDE" which is a place where the origins of these families as well as their intermarriages are made clear. Currently, I have posted information about the following families: -- Eveleigh -- Harris -- Lane -- Membery -- Orchard -- Reader -- Russell -- Stokes -- Stoodley The website address is: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~legends/greatdivide.html I hope to hear from lots of folks with information to submit -- I hope that eventually the site will serve as a means for reconnecting us descendants of those Jefferson County pioneers with our British cousins, and vice versa. Good luck! Sincerley, Mark A. Wentling

Hello, I'm searching for any information regarding the family of Benjamin ESTES who emigrated around 1815 to Cape Vincent, NY He married Phebe BORLAND in NY about 1780 She died Feb. 9, 1849 in Cape Vincent at the age of 84. According to the record, she was still married. When and where did Benjamin die. Cathy clauer@oregonvos.net

Jere Hagadorn wrote: > > Spunky: I found the ledger under the Jefferson County > Web pages under Jefferson County Schools. > > Jere > > Spunky wrote: > > > Lo Jere- Where can I get a copy of Nellie Fords Ledger????? > > Looking for Bakers And Lesters- same time and area as > > your folks. Don Lester Nellie Ford's original book is located at the Brownville-Glen Park Library Association, Ellen LaPointe, Librarian. However, I think all names were transcribed to this website. (At least I did my best!) Transcription was courtesy of Mrs. LaPointe. Nan Dixon -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyjeffer/

At the Jefferson County, NY ALHN site we have added the towns listed below. Profuse thanks to Holice B. Young for the many hours she has spent transcribing this work. Great job, Holice! I have also sent this to the MI and WI lists as there are many references to people who moved to both Michigan and Wisconsin in these pages. We invite you to come check it out. http://www.usgennet.org/~ahnyjeff/jefferson.htm Alexandria: http://www.crosswinds.net/~newyorkalhn/jeff/cv/cv.htm Antwerp: http://www.crosswinds.net/~newyorkalhn/jeff/ant/ant.htm Cape Vincent: http://www.crosswinds.net/~newyorkalhn/jeff/cv/cv.htm Champion: http://www.crosswinds.net/~newyorkalhn/jeff/champ/champ.htm Clayton: http://www.crosswinds.net/~newyorkalhn/jeff/clay/clay.htm LeRay: http://www.crosswinds.net/~newyorkalhn/jeff/leray/leray.htm Lorraine: http://www.crosswinds.net/~newyorkalhn/jeff/lorr/lorraine.htm Lyme: http://www.crosswinds.net/~newyorkalhn/jeff/lyme/lyme.htm Debbie Axtman Tuscola County Genealogy ALHN Coordinator http://www.usgennet.org/~ahmitusc/tuscola.htm ````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` Co-State Coordinator. New York ALHN http://www.usgennet.org/~alhnnyus/nyalhn.htm ````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` County Coordinator Dutchess, NY ALHN http://www.usgennet.org/~ahnydutc/dutchess.htm ````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` County Coordinator Jefferson, NY ALHN http://www.usgennet.org/~ahnyjeff/jefferson.htm ````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` County Coordinator Otsego, NY ALHN http://www.usgennet.org/~ahnyotse/otsego.htm ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` Other MI ALHN Counties http://www.usgennet.org/~ahmilape/lapeer.htm http://www.usgennet.org/~ahmikent/kent.html ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````

Spunky: I found the ledger under the Jefferson County Web pages under Jefferson County Schools. Jere Spunky wrote: > Lo Jere- Where can I get a copy of Nellie Fords Ledger????? > Looking for Bakers And Lesters- same time and area as > your folks. > Don Lester > > Jere Hagadorn wrote: > > > Nedd assistance in locating some of my relatives who resided > > in Jefferson county during the period 1895-1910, The following > > are listed in Nellie Ford's ledger as having attended her school > > in Champion Great Bend. They are: > > Florence Hagadorn 4th grade 1908 > > Hazel Hagadorn 4th grade 1909 > > Marguerite Hagadorn 1st grade 1909 > > Marion Hagadorn 1st grade 1909 > > Ray Hagadorn 1908 > > > > Also looking for my great-grandfather Frank Hagadorn who > > was born in Brownville and my great-uncle Harold Wallace > > Hagadorn born in Piercefield. Any assistance will be greatly > > appreciated. Happy Y2K to all. > > > > Jere Hagadorn > > Orange City, FL > > > > ============================== > > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

Lo Jere- Where can I get a copy of Nellie Fords Ledger????? Looking for Bakers And Lesters- same time and area as your folks. Don Lester Jere Hagadorn wrote: > Nedd assistance in locating some of my relatives who resided > in Jefferson county during the period 1895-1910, The following > are listed in Nellie Ford's ledger as having attended her school > in Champion Great Bend. They are: > Florence Hagadorn 4th grade 1908 > Hazel Hagadorn 4th grade 1909 > Marguerite Hagadorn 1st grade 1909 > Marion Hagadorn 1st grade 1909 > Ray Hagadorn 1908 > > Also looking for my great-grandfather Frank Hagadorn who > was born in Brownville and my great-uncle Harold Wallace > Hagadorn born in Piercefield. Any assistance will be greatly > appreciated. Happy Y2K to all. > > Jere Hagadorn > Orange City, FL > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

Nedd assistance in locating some of my relatives who resided in Jefferson county during the period 1895-1910, The following are listed in Nellie Ford's ledger as having attended her school in Champion Great Bend. They are: Florence Hagadorn 4th grade 1908 Hazel Hagadorn 4th grade 1909 Marguerite Hagadorn 1st grade 1909 Marion Hagadorn 1st grade 1909 Ray Hagadorn 1908 Also looking for my great-grandfather Frank Hagadorn who was born in Brownville and my great-uncle Harold Wallace Hagadorn born in Piercefield. Any assistance will be greatly appreciated. Happy Y2K to all. Jere Hagadorn Orange City, FL

Well, I was raised with Darrell and Vera Littlefield in Ellisburg, we always had corned beef and cabbage...aka..boiled dinner. Was just impossible to have anything else..I think you got excommunicated from the family if you didn't :-) Leona MacDonals

The only thing traditional about our New Year's fare in Jefferson County's Town of Hounsfield was had on New Year's Eve -- it was oyster stew - Mom would save the little cream which had accumulated on the top of the milkcans, adding that to make it good and tasty. Most of the children would have nothing to do with the oysters, but not me -- I was a born connoisseur of everything. Still am. Problem is, oysters are so very expensive nowadays that I don't buy them for just myself -- I wonder if they were expensive in the 40's and 50's -- don't see how they could have been -- my folks were poor farmers. In those days, January 1st thru 15th were evil times of taxes and license plates, etc. -- not much money around. I'm writing this on Christmas Eve just after having the traditional Italian supper of cod fish salad -- fish, vinegar/oil, lots of raw garlic and canned green peppers -- and then we also had anchovies/garlic and plain spaghetti noodles -- plus a little vino -- I thoroughly enjoy my husband's Italian customs -- but our kids could care less!! So sad. We know Florence will come up with something great. It is true, different sections of the country have different things -- down here in Ohio, it's saurerkraut and pork cooked together for hours. Can't say as I like it -- but I share Nan's memory of pork baked with stuffing. Shirley Conklin Farone