Name of the city in Ohio is KIRTLAND, not Kirkland. Charles Ecker wrote: > Shirley, > > I should have opened up all my email last week but now that I have I see that you had > a lot more questions. I agree that these people could have joined the church in > Kirkland , Ohio. When you mentioned a place called Council Point I too wondered if > that wasn't Council Bluffs. When you said that your ancestor was killed there that > aroused my curiosity. There were many who died there during that hard winter of > 1846-47. There is a place across the Missouri River in Nebraska called Winters > Quarters then but now known as Florence. Some 400 persons are buried there in a > common grave and I believe there is a record of all who are buried there. I have > visited it a couple of times as I have some ancestors also buried near there in > unmarked graves. It is too bad that you couldn't go to this cemetery on your last > trip. The LDS church has a visitors center there and I'm sure they could have been of > help to you. It would be interesting to see why your ancestor is listed as killed. > Since it sounds like you had at least one ancestor come West to Utah with the Mormon > pioneers you shouln't have much trouble researching out this line as there are > probably many other descendents who have done this.Have you tried the LDS site at > familysearch.org? Ancestry.com also have a great deal of information on LDS lines and > you could give me your names to type in if you wish. I am a subscriber. Please let me > know what I can do to help. Perhaps if you go on usgenweb for Florence Nebraska or > Council Bluffs, Iowa they might have a listing of those buried at Council Bluffs > (Iowa) or Florence Nebraska in the Pioneer Cemetary. If not, I could probably find > that information for you. > > Good luck and keep in touch, > > Lisa Ecker > Morgan Utah > theeckers@earthlink.net > > Allan Plucinik wrote: > > > Shirley, > > Yes it is very possible he joined the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints > > in 1832 since it was officially organized April 6, 1830. > > > > Allan Plucinik > > Colorado Springs, CO > > > > Shirley Farone wrote: > > > > Lisa, he also mentioned that in 1832 he joined the Church of Jesus of the > > Latter Day Saints. I'm not up on the dates, so do you think this is possible? > > > > ============================== > > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com.

Thanks, Charles, for your reply. Apparently, the gentleman with the Rowe ancestors who lived on Pillar Point, was not interested, but in the meantime you all gave me insight enough to question part of the text and make notes to that effect. The Rowe-Chase families did not leave Ellisburgh in 1820 for the West as followers of the Mormon religion -- they converted along the way. Thanks to all of you who helped me on this. Shirley At 07:26 AM 01/13/2000 +0000, you wrote: >Shirley, >Sorry I did not see your reply until today. Yes the LDS church was organized April 6 >1830 in Fayette NY. > >Allan Plucinik wrote: > >> Shirley, >> Yes it is very possible he joined the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints >> in 1832 since it was officially organized April 6, 1830. >> >> Allan Plucinik >> Colorado Springs, CO >> >> Shirley Farone wrote: >> >> Lisa, he also mentioned that in 1832 he joined the Church of Jesus of the >> Latter Day Saints. I'm not up on the dates, so do you think this is possible? >> >> ============================== >> Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: >> Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. >> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > > > > >============================== >Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > >

Shirley, Sorru but I am a terrible speller. The church(?) you are refering too in Kirtland is probably the Kirtland temple, originally constructed by the Mormons, but no longer owned by them ( maybe partially own by them and the Reorganized LDS church, I'm not sure) but no longer used as a temple by the Mormon Church. As for the other question; the Mormons who came West in 1847 were members of the original church who recognized Brigham Young as the next president of the church following the death of Joseph Smith. There were other members who felt that the next president should be the son of Joseph Smith and they are called the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. They are headquartered in Independence Missouri. Lisa Ecker sy mistake even for some of us who live in Ohio. One might be > interested in touring their church (is it called a church?) in this town. > It was quite fascinating. However, I became quite confused about the > differences between those who worshipped at Kirtland and those who have > split off from the original religion. Apparently, there are still two > factions. Can anyone explain -- has something to do with Kansas City, Mo. > and a splinter group. Shirley > > At 12:19 PM 01/13/2000 -0500, you wrote: > >Name of the city in Ohio is KIRTLAND, not Kirkland. > > > >Charles Ecker wrote: > > > >> Shirley, > >> > >> I should have opened up all my email last week but now that I have I see > that you had > >> a lot more questions. I agree that these people could have joined the > church in > >> Kirkland , Ohio. When you mentioned a place called Council Point I too > wondered if > >> that wasn't Council Bluffs. When you said that your ancestor was killed > there that > >> aroused my curiosity. There were many who died there during that hard > winter of > >> 1846-47. There is a place across the Missouri River in Nebraska called > Winters > >> Quarters then but now known as Florence. Some 400 persons are buried > there in a > >> common grave and I believe there is a record of all who are buried > there. I have > >> visited it a couple of times as I have some ancestors also buried near > there in > >> unmarked graves. It is too bad that you couldn't go to this cemetery on > your last > >> trip. The LDS church has a visitors center there and I'm sure they could > have been of > >> help to you. It would be interesting to see why your ancestor is listed > as killed. > >> Since it sounds like you had at least one ancestor come West to Utah > with the Mormon > >> pioneers you shouln't have much trouble researching out this line as > there are > >> probably many other descendents who have done this.Have you tried the > LDS site at > >> familysearch.org? Ancestry.com also have a great deal of information on > LDS lines and > >> you could give me your names to type in if you wish. I am a subscriber. > Please let me > >> know what I can do to help. Perhaps if you go on usgenweb for Florence > Nebraska or > >> Council Bluffs, Iowa they might have a listing of those buried at > Council Bluffs > >> (Iowa) or Florence Nebraska in the Pioneer Cemetary. If not, I could > probably find > >> that information for you. > >> > >> Good luck and keep in touch, > >> > >> Lisa Ecker > >> Morgan Utah > >> theeckers@earthlink.net > >> > >> Allan Plucinik wrote: > >> > >> > Shirley, > >> > Yes it is very possible he joined the Church of Jesus Christ of > Latter-Day Saints > >> > in 1832 since it was officially organized April 6, 1830. > >> > > >> > Allan Plucinik > >> > Colorado Springs, CO > >> > > >> > Shirley Farone wrote: > >> > > >> > Lisa, he also mentioned that in 1832 he joined the Church of Jesus of > the > >> > Latter Day Saints. I'm not up on the dates, so do you think this is > possible? > >> > > >> > ============================== > >> > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > >> > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > >> > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > >> > >> ============================== > >> Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > >> http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > >> Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > > > > > >============================== > >The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > >12.8 million individuals and counting. > >http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/

Shirley, I should have opened up all my email last week but now that I have I see that you had a lot more questions. I agree that these people could have joined the church in Kirkland , Ohio. When you mentioned a place called Council Point I too wondered if that wasn't Council Bluffs. When you said that your ancestor was killed there that aroused my curiosity. There were many who died there during that hard winter of 1846-47. There is a place across the Missouri River in Nebraska called Winters Quarters then but now known as Florence. Some 400 persons are buried there in a common grave and I believe there is a record of all who are buried there. I have visited it a couple of times as I have some ancestors also buried near there in unmarked graves. It is too bad that you couldn't go to this cemetery on your last trip. The LDS church has a visitors center there and I'm sure they could have been of help to you. It would be interesting to see why your ancestor is listed as killed. Since it sounds like you had at least one ancestor come West to Utah with the Mormon pioneers you shouln't have much trouble researching out this line as there are probably many other descendents who have done this.Have you tried the LDS site at familysearch.org? Ancestry.com also have a great deal of information on LDS lines and you could give me your names to type in if you wish. I am a subscriber. Please let me know what I can do to help. Perhaps if you go on usgenweb for Florence Nebraska or Council Bluffs, Iowa they might have a listing of those buried at Council Bluffs (Iowa) or Florence Nebraska in the Pioneer Cemetary. If not, I could probably find that information for you. Good luck and keep in touch, Lisa Ecker Morgan Utah theeckers@earthlink.net Allan Plucinik wrote: > Shirley, > Yes it is very possible he joined the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints > in 1832 since it was officially organized April 6, 1830. > > Allan Plucinik > Colorado Springs, CO > > Shirley Farone wrote: > > Lisa, he also mentioned that in 1832 he joined the Church of Jesus of the > Latter Day Saints. I'm not up on the dates, so do you think this is possible? > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/

Shirley, Sorry I did not see your reply until today. Yes the LDS church was organized April 6 1830 in Fayette NY. Allan Plucinik wrote: > Shirley, > Yes it is very possible he joined the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints > in 1832 since it was officially organized April 6, 1830. > > Allan Plucinik > Colorado Springs, CO > > Shirley Farone wrote: > > Lisa, he also mentioned that in 1832 he joined the Church of Jesus of the > Latter Day Saints. I'm not up on the dates, so do you think this is possible? > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/

Hello, Recently I received information about the 1850 Census for Orleans, Jefferson Co., NY regarding a Truman (or Freeman) Wilson who is a farmer age 44 years. He is married to Mirinda age 43 years. Their children are Jane age 16 Silas age 14 Clark age 11 Henry age 9 Lodema age 6 Sarah age 4 P.H. (male) age 2 The ages of Jane and Henry match those of my gr gr grandfather Henry C. Wilson and his sister Jane Wilson Carter. Henry was born in Jefferson Co., NY in Sept. of 1840 according to the Wisconsin Civil War Pension Papers. Also in Rodman, Jefferson County is a Caroline Wilson who is working in a hotel and she is 23 years old. This matches the age of Henry's sister Caroline Wilson Shaw. I have looked at various census indexes for the years 1820, 1830, 1840 for a Freeman or Truman Wilson and this is what I find: 1840 Truman Wilson in Rutland There are Freeman Wilsons in other counties in New York in 1820 and in 1840. Does anyone know of or have a connection to this Truman Wilson family? or know if the name should be Freeman rather than Truman? My gr gr grandfather, Henry, had a son named Freeman who died when he was about 8 years old. My gr grandfather, Abram Wilson had a daughter named Lodema. Sometimes names are repeated like this but not necessarily. If anyone can help with information about this family, I would be very grateful and willing to share information about my Wilson line. Karen Wilson Ramsey Genealogist researching the following names: Aronson, Bassett, Bradstreet, Carlsson, Decker, Dudley, Gault, Greer, Griffin, Grott, Hewitt, Hillicker/Hilliker, Palmer, Prather/Prator, Sischo, Tyler, Wilson, William, Woodard

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Hi Peggy I believe I am related to the Colon family you are looking for in Clayton through the marriage of my ancestor Richard Terry Connell of Cape Vincent to Adaline Colon. Go to the Jefferson County Roots web page at www.rootsweb.com/~nyjeffer/ click on the town of Clayton then click on Family sketches from the town of Clayton then Scroll down to Xaviar Colon the Children of his son Xaviar Colon JR are listed and Elizabeth is one of his daughters. My Richard Connell married Xaviar Jr's sister. I hope this information help put you in the right direction. Please let me know that you received this and let me know if it helped. Possibly a Cousin Dennis Connell dconnell@vvm.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <Peggypurcell@cs.com> To: <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 2:46 PM Subject: [NYJEFFER-L] Re: NYJEFFER-D Digest V00 #9 > Trying to find information on Purcell or Colon (Colin) 1880's through early > 1900's. > Have Thomas b1832 > Elizabeth b1861 d1922 > Hoping somewhere to get a birth certificate or death certificate with further > information on them. > They lived in Clayton, NY, had son Raymond Daniel Purcell b.1886? daughter > Myrtle Jacob b1897 d1919. Thomas, Elizabeth, and Myrtle buried at St. Mary's > Cemetary, Clayton, NY. Raymond moved to Cleveland, Ohio. > If you can help in anyway or point me in the right direction. > Peggy Purcell > peggypurcell@cs.com > > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >

Trying to find information on Purcell or Colon (Colin) 1880's through early 1900's. Have Thomas b1832 Elizabeth b1861 d1922 Hoping somewhere to get a birth certificate or death certificate with further information on them. They lived in Clayton, NY, had son Raymond Daniel Purcell b.1886? daughter Myrtle Jacob b1897 d1919. Thomas, Elizabeth, and Myrtle buried at St. Mary's Cemetary, Clayton, NY. Raymond moved to Cleveland, Ohio. If you can help in anyway or point me in the right direction. Peggy Purcell peggypurcell@cs.com

Seeking parents of Jeremiah WINSLOW, b.10 March 1791, Jefferson Co., NY, died 27 January 1845, DeWitt Co., IL, m. about 1820 Clarissa Sawyer, born 1 August 1801, Jefferson Co., NY, died 19 September 1844, DeWitt Co., IL, had 8 children: Eliza, William M., Jeremiah, Phoebe, Silvia K, Emeline, Albert and Alfred. A grateful thank you for any help. Regards to all. Charles H.Crookston

I saw a posting reflecting same. However, another advised: instead of jeffer type jefferson I was able to get there via: http://www.genexchange.com/ny/jefferson If you dont' connect, let me know, as there is also another way. Florence -----Original Message----- From: Ramsey3755@aol.com <Ramsey3755@aol.com> To: NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, January 10, 2000 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [NYJEFFER-L] 1850 Census? -- 404 Errors >I was also unable to access the Jefferson Co., NY 1850 census. However, it >gave me a note stating that it was temporarily closed for updating or >something I can't remember now. This was last week when I tried it. I >wonder how long it will be closed. > >Karen Ramsey > > >============================== >Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > >

Nancy, Can you give me some information the Charles Strong list with the early settlers in Jefferson Co.? b. & d. dates, and Parents for starters. Jim Jim Gilbert jgilbert@hiwaay.net STRONG ROOTS DATABASE http://fly.hiwaay.net/~jgilbert/main/srd-toc.htm Send STRONG GEDCOM FILES to me.

Thanks to those who have offered help on the 1850 Census which does not contain records for Pamelia. The chart does not state that the 1850 Census is incomplete. Does anyone know if it will be completed at a later date? Ardis

I was also unable to access the Jefferson Co., NY 1850 census. However, it gave me a note stating that it was temporarily closed for updating or something I can't remember now. This was last week when I tried it. I wonder how long it will be closed. Karen Ramsey

Hi Everyone, I would like to announce that two new townships are now online at the Jefferson, NY ALHN and Westchester ALHN sites. First of all, I would like to welcome Sherrye Woodworth, who has put up some great pages for Brownville at the Jefferson, NY ALHN site. You can view them at the address below. Thanks to Holice B. Young, co-host of Jefferson, NY ALHN for transcribing most of the data here. Looks great gals! http://www.usgennet.org/~ahnybrow/BrownvilleMain.html Additionally, at the Westchester site, Pat Cieslinski has added Yonkers and more historical information regarding Westchester. It is great info and I would invite you to pay a visit at: http://www.usgennet.org/~ahnywest/ Thanks gals! Debbie Axtman Co-State Coordinator. New York ALHN http://www.usgennet.org/~alhnnyus/nyalhn.htm ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` Tuscola County Genealogy ALHN Coordinator http://www.usgennet.org/~ahmitusc/tuscola.htm ````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` County Coordinator Dutchess, NY ALHN http://www.usgennet.org/~ahnydutc/dutchess.htm ````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` County Coordinator Jefferson, NY ALHN http://www.usgennet.org/~ahnyjeff/jefferson.htm ````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` County Coordinator Otsego, NY ALHN http://www.usgennet.org/~ahnyotse/otsego.htm ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` Other MI ALHN Counties http://www.usgennet.org/~ahmilape/lapeer.htm http://www.usgennet.org/~ahmikent/kent.html ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````

VKenyon303@aol.com wrote: > > Willard and Florence Meeks (My Great Grand Parents )had several children > that died at a very early age I am not sure if these graves are marked, > these children may be buried in Dexter NY and I did find Chaumont in that > area. > > Lester Meeks 12/12/1918-12/14/1918 > > Donald Earl Meeks 1/10/1922-4/29/1922 > > Virginia Jane Meeks 4/20/1924-10/1/1925 > > Barbara Edith 6/4/1928-still born > >> -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyjeffer/

VKenyon303@aol.com wrote: > > I am looking for my Great Great Grandfather Panthus Meeks D 1928 > his wife Catherine Killingbeck B 11/7/1864 D 12/4/1942 > remarried to Charles Kastler > > Children are: > None are buried there > Willard Meeks - Buried in Fulton NY (my G Grandfather) > Merlin Meeks - ? Syracuse NY > Margaret Meeks Married Robert Olsen reside in Rochester NY 1942 > Mrs Homer Moore of Natural Bridge > > Thanks Vicki Kenyon -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyjeffer/

GB, wherever your are, do you, by chance have anything on Daniel Hayes, born about 1777 in NH, married Lucy O'Connor, date unknown, and who was a resident of Clayton, age 78, according to the census of 1850; and, further, was the father of Cynthia Hayes, b. LaFargeville, 10 Apr 1802 who d. there 11 Spt 1862? Sorry for such a mouthful but I am in need of some assistance, from cyberspace or wherever. All leads most gratefully appreciated and acknowledged from these Outer Banks of North Carolina which are bereft of Jefferson County NY records. Tony Sylvester Kitty Hawk, NC Gary Barnes wrote: > Looking for surnames BARNES, FLYNN, HENRY, WOOLSCHLAGER, WEVER,Janack, > LEMKE, TENORIO, DUROCHER, LALLIER, HAYES, TARR, THISSE, RUDNIK, WICKS. > These would be connected to HEnry aqnd Barnes and Flynn from those > areas. > > Mostly in Watertown area from 1850 to present. > > ANy information a good start. I have some but lots of gaps. > > GB > > ============================== > The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > 12.8 million individuals and counting. > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/

Hi Florence I'm very interested in the information you said the Flower Memorial Library had of Jefferson County for 1825 and 1835. Can you please tell us if that information is available to the public and how we might get it? Also, how are they indexed? Alphabetically, by street or how? This is something I've been trying to look at for many years. Information for Jefferson County for this period is rather scarce for those of us who are far removed. Thanks a bunch Bonnie in Idaho

Looking for surnames BARNES, FLYNN, HENRY, WOOLSCHLAGER, WEVER,Janack, LEMKE, TENORIO, DUROCHER, LALLIER, HAYES, TARR, THISSE, RUDNIK, WICKS. These would be connected to HEnry aqnd Barnes and Flynn from those areas. Mostly in Watertown area from 1850 to present. ANy information a good start. I have some but lots of gaps. GB