Nan, I still find CHILD'S GAZETTEER interesting reading! Jim jgilbert@hiwaay.net

Hi folks, I just tried http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~legends/hounsfield1855.html and it worked fine. Jim jgilbert@hiwaay.net

Hi, Speaking of the Jefferson County Journal, how can one get copies of past articles? I received a list from the So. Jeff. Historical Society of several obituaries of my ancestors (in the 1800s) that were published in the Jefferson County Journal. I would really like to get copies of those obituaries. I know the exact issue, date, etc. How do I go about this? Thanks, Kelly

I lost the message on the Child's Gazetteer that was so interesting by Nan Dixon and would like to copy it. Can I get that message again? Dorothy Beasley

olear15@attglobal.net wrote: > > List, > > Has anyone else noticed very blaring errors in this book? Were family > sketches provided by the family itself? > > I'm desc. of Eliza FULLER who m. Jeremiah HUNGERFORD. Child's Gazetteer > gives her desc. from Thomas > Noah. I believe it should be Zadock > > Noah. Her siblings are listed correctly but most with wrong spouses - > surely all couldn't have remarried. The only correct possibility is > Laura m. MURPHY. Of course there are errors in Child's, and in every "Glory Book" published in the 19th century and beyond. For Jefferson County, that includes Hough's (our Bible of county histories) Evarts, Oakes and all the rest. Yes, probably family members did supply bios, but not necessarily the family members who knew who married whom, or that Grampa came from the Mohawk Valley and not directly from Germany, or that Uncle Joe was far too young to be a Revolutionary Vet. That's why they are called glory books: the descendants wanted to shine in their ancestors' glory, and if the glory wasn't bright enough... The bios were supplied by people who PAID to get them included. The Child organization (and he had an organization) were book publishers, not genealogists, and they were interested in selling space in the book, not in what we, a century later, would think of their efforts. Having granted that, let's look at Child's as we do any other secondary source: clues to be checked out. When we have time to take a breath, we will print corrections, but we will NOT alter the text. That's unethical. If we say we are following Child's books, then we will follow them. I'm not getting involved in any family arguments over which was the real wife! You don't swallow everything in the IGI (I hope!) nor should you in ANY printed source, and you should look at least twice at primary sources. Genealogists make speeches on "When the sources are wrong". Take my birth certificate, for example: my surname and my father's first name are spelled incorrectly. Do I throw it away? Not if I want to get a passport! I suppose I could have the spellings corrected, but it's served me for 70 years, and I suppose it will last a few more. I know the difference, at any rate, and there was only one child born at that address that day! And as long as I'm lecturing from my stump, please don't take ANYTHING you find on the internet as gospel. We try to be as accurate as we can be, proofing and checking, but there's no way we can present as much as we do and check every reference. People who send in Jefferson County Pioneer material are responsible for the accuracy of that material, which is why their names and addresses are attached. If you have questions, question the person who sent it in. Often, especially to beginners, the county history is the only record they can find as to their lineage. With the clues they find there, they can unearth more information, not all agreeing with the county history. That's what a historian does: sift through conflicting data to find the truth. We hope. The vast majority of the information is accurate. You are invited to send in corrections. See the intro on the website. Nan Dixon, listmaster. -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyjeffer/

I WOULD LIKE THE ANSWER TO THAT SAME QUESTION IF YOU FIND OUT.

Your e-mail makes alot of sense and how true it is.I'm copying this one since my Family seems to think you can get your correct Genealogy off the Internet and wonders why I spend so many Hrs at the Library and LDS going over Films and Vital Records.As much as I use the Internet I realize the Wisdom you so nicely shared with everyone. Pat Regan

Sorry, Anne -- my little sidebar paragraph there about your m-i-l came out to be quite amusing -- I should have known better than to veer off the subject. It should go like this: >I talked with my sister yesterday about having your m-i-l as a friend >in 1934 -- was she surprised!-- such a small world. >I'll get back to you tomorrow. And Nan just got thru sending us a message about re-reading what we write - THRICE - and sometimes even re-read the next morning. I'll never learn. Shirley At 10:03 PM 01/24/2000 -0500, you wrote: >Hi Anne, > >I just tried it at at 9.59 p.m. and it's working perfectly. I also tried >it shortly after Mark's notice came on and it came in promptly. > >I talked with my sister yesterday about your having your m-i-l as a friend >in 1934 -- was she surprised!-- such a small world. >I'll get back to you tomorrow. > >Hope you get into Mark's site -- it's great. > >Shirley > > > > >At 09:26 PM 01/24/2000 EST, you wrote: >>Hello, >> I have tried to get into the site but all I get is Server Hang up. Is >>there a problem with the site or address? >> >>Anne >> >> >>============================== >>Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: >>Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. >>http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ >> >> > > >============================== >Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > >

Hi Anne, I just tried it at at 9.59 p.m. and it's working perfectly. I also tried it shortly after Mark's notice came on and it came in promptly. I talked with my sister yesterday about your having your m-i-l as a friend in 1934 -- was she surprised!-- such a small world. I'll get back to you tomorrow. Hope you get into Mark's site -- it's great. Shirley At 09:26 PM 01/24/2000 EST, you wrote: >Hello, > I have tried to get into the site but all I get is Server Hang up. Is >there a problem with the site or address? > >Anne > > >============================== >Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: >Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. >http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > >

die..we got them! ----- Original Message ----- From: odie <odie@pathwaynet.com> To: <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 11:20 AM Subject: [NYJEFFER-L] some info taken from a copy of the Jefferson County Journal----May 5, 1885 > Hello everyone! > I received a few newspaper copies of the Jefferson County Journal today and thought I would share info that is on the copies that I received. If anyone else has had any obituaries copied from Jefferson County Newspapers, sometimes on the copy it has little things that went on in the area for that date. It would be nice if others also would type out and send over the mail list, maybe it would be of help to others that are also researching! Never know what we may find!!! > Here are a few from one sheet. > > Jefferson County Journal--- May 5, 1885 > > Lorraine > > Mrs. F. B. BROWN will keep a stock of millinery goods at the hotel for the spring trade. > > J.D. GREEN is traveling through some of the southern towns of the county selling clothing by sample for a good clothing house in Syracuse, N.Y. The people will find him reliable and honest and his goods "no shoddy." > > Parties collecting spear heads on spear head plug tobacco can recieve fifty cents per hundred for the same in cash or in merchandise by calling on C.D. GRIMSHAW of this village on or before June 20, 1885. First come first served. > > Last Thursday afternoon the news flashed over the wires announcing the sudden and unexpected death of Mrs. Addie BROWN KNIGHT, of Burgh Hill, O. She died of pneumonia. She was born in this village in 1840 and lived here until she grew to womanhood, except while attending school at Adams and Fairfield. She took for her life's future Dr. Joesph KNIGHT and removed to Burgh Hill where where she had since lived. She leaves one child, a son sixteen years of age. She is the sister of Philo M. BROWN, Esq, of this village and a niece of Hon. Levi H. BROWN, of Watertown, N.Y. She joined the Baptist church of Lorraine long years ago and has always been a worthy and consistent member of that denomination. The brothers and sisters of the deceased living in their far away scattered homes, have in their sad hour of affliction our most tender sympathy. > > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > >

Hi, I'm trying to see if anyone out there has come across a Moses Wright, that died in the town of Adams in July 1830. Moses with his brothers came to Adams in 1802. They help to settles the area. Moses was married to a Patty French and then a Martha. They has some childrens one was name Mary, born abt 1811. Looking for any leads on the family Thank you Carla rcburn@syix.com

Hi folks, Today I created a Town of Hounsfield resource website, as part of the Jefferson County portion of the American Local History Network. You are welcome to visit at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~legends/hounsfield-alhn.html Your links and submissions would be most welcome -- I'd like to make the site into a picture of the town yesterday as well as today, so just about anything goes! I hope this will help everyone! Sincerely, Mark A. Wentling

Hello, I have tried to get into the site but all I get is Server Hang up. Is there a problem with the site or address? Anne

Hello, I just tried to get into the web site that you sent regarding Hounsfield and all I got was Host Unknown. Am I doing something wrong or is there something wrong with the site address. Anne

Jefferson County Journal April 21, 1885 MARRIED DUNCAN--HAZEL---In Pulaski, April 14th, by Rev. D.D. Owen, Arthur M. DUNCAN, to Miss Alta M. HAZEL, both of Adams. FAIRBANKS---BROWNELL---At the M.E. Parsonage, Adams, April 15, by Rev. G. Moore, W.J. FAIRBANKS, of Adams and Miss Ella BROWNELL, Of Adams Centre. MEAD--TAYLOR---At Black River, April 14, by Rev. W.H.Clark, William H. MEAD, of Watertown, to Miss Lotta M.TAYLOR, of Black River. PIERCE---VAN TASSELL---In Theresa, March 28, by E.D. cross, Esq., Geo. A. PIERCE, of Redwood, and Emma A. VAN TASSEL, of Theresa. PETER---KLETT---In Watertown, April 18th, by Rev. S.A. Hayt, Carl A. PETERS and Mary C. KLETT, both of Watertown. SMITH--BAKER--At Cape Vincent, April 8th, by Rev. Father Kelly, Horace W. SMITH of Sterlingville, and Miss Mary BAKER of Cape Vincent. April 21, 1885 Jefferson County Journal DIED ALEXANDER---At Evans Mills, April 11, Mrs. William ALEXANDER, aged 22 years. ALLEN---In the town of Theresa, April 6, Mrs. Albert ALLEN ( formerly Mary Jane CARROLL) of Antwerp, aged about 31 years. AUSTIN---In West Carthage, April 5, Curtis J. AUSTIN, aged 56 years. BAKER---In Watertown, April 16, Anne May, daughter of George W. and Mary BAKER, aged 2 years 7 months. BASS---In Watertown, April 14, Joel N. BASS, aged 76 years. DeVILLARD---In Providence, R.I. April 13, Anna R. DeVILLARD, daughter of Hon. John R. BARTLETT, and niece of George F. BARTLETT Esq., of Cape Vincent. FULLER---At Adams Centre, April 20th, William FULLER. Funeral on Wednesday at 2 p.m. HITCHCOCK---In MAnnsville, April 18th, Adelbert D. HITCHCOCK, aged 31 years, 10 months. HUBBARD---Near Carthage, April 11, Augustus HUBBARD, aged 88 years. HEWITT---At Three Mile Bay, March 12th, Arthur B., son of Walter and Eva HEWITT, aged 2 years. JOHNSON---In Champion, April 5th, Sophia JOHNSON, aged 71 years. KENYON---In Watertown, April 16, A. M. KENYON, aged 52 years. LOCKWOOD---In Copenhagen, April 11, Adam, son of Richard LOCKWOOD, aged 1 year. NELLIS---At Stone Mills, April 14, Mabel Harriet, daughter of Wellington and Dell NELLIS, aged 4 months. RAWSON---In Wilna, April 9, Amon RAWSON, aged 71 years. RILEY---In Wilna, April 5th, Ellen RILEY, aged relict of the late Michael RILEY, aged 87 yrs. WILEY---In Cape Vincent, April 13, Miss Kate WILEY.

I was mailing more from a different paper. I received three sheets of copies today and they have other info on them that I thought maybe useful to someone!! Thanks for letting me know the first list got on the list O.K.!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Leona MacDonald <leona@solaseireann.com> To: <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [NYJEFFER-L] some info taken from a copy of the Jefferson County Journal----May 5, 1885 > die..we got them! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: odie <odie@pathwaynet.com> > To: <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 11:20 AM > Subject: [NYJEFFER-L] some info taken from a copy of the Jefferson County > Journal----May 5, 1885 > > > > Hello everyone! > > I received a few newspaper copies of the Jefferson County Journal today > and thought I would share info that is on the copies that I received. If > anyone else has had any obituaries copied from Jefferson County Newspapers, > sometimes on the copy it has little things that went on in the area for that > date. It would be nice if others also would type out and send over the > mail list, maybe it would be of help to others that are also researching! > Never know what we may find!!! > > Here are a few from one sheet. > > > > Jefferson County Journal--- May 5, 1885 > > > > Lorraine > > > > Mrs. F. B. BROWN will keep a stock of millinery goods at the hotel for the > spring trade. > > > > J.D. GREEN is traveling through some of the southern towns of the county > selling clothing by sample for a good clothing house in Syracuse, N.Y. The > people will find him reliable and honest and his goods "no shoddy." > > > > Parties collecting spear heads on spear head plug tobacco can recieve > fifty cents per hundred for the same in cash or in merchandise by calling on > C.D. GRIMSHAW of this village on or before June 20, 1885. First come first > served. > > > > Last Thursday afternoon the news flashed over the wires announcing the > sudden and unexpected death of Mrs. Addie BROWN KNIGHT, of Burgh Hill, O. > She died of pneumonia. She was born in this village in 1840 and lived here > until she grew to womanhood, except while attending school at Adams and > Fairfield. She took for her life's future Dr. Joesph KNIGHT and removed to > Burgh Hill where where she had since lived. She leaves one child, a son > sixteen years of age. She is the sister of Philo M. BROWN, Esq, of this > village and a niece of Hon. Levi H. BROWN, of Watertown, N.Y. She joined the > Baptist church of Lorraine long years ago and has always been a worthy and > consistent member of that denomination. The brothers and sisters of the > deceased living in their far away scattered homes, have in their sad hour of > affliction our most tender sympathy. > > > > > > ============================== > > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > > > > > > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi >

Thank-You, I had typed out some Marriage and Death listings from the Jefferson County Journal for April 21, 1885 and they were returned. I tried to resend and they were also returned. Now, I will have to retype them over. I won't be able to send them now until later has have to do errands. Thanks for letting me know!! ----- Original Message ----- From: <Dbzly@aol.com> To: <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [NYJEFFER-L] THIS A TEST > Rec'd posting. > > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi >

This is a test, for some reason my mail keeps getting returned. I want to see if this gets posted, sorry for any inconvience.

Hello everyone! I received a few newspaper copies of the Jefferson County Journal today and thought I would share info that is on the copies that I received. If anyone else has had any obituaries copied from Jefferson County Newspapers, sometimes on the copy it has little things that went on in the area for that date. It would be nice if others also would type out and send over the mail list, maybe it would be of help to others that are also researching! Never know what we may find!!! Here are a few from one sheet. Jefferson County Journal--- May 5, 1885 Lorraine Mrs. F. B. BROWN will keep a stock of millinery goods at the hotel for the spring trade. J.D. GREEN is traveling through some of the southern towns of the county selling clothing by sample for a good clothing house in Syracuse, N.Y. The people will find him reliable and honest and his goods "no shoddy." Parties collecting spear heads on spear head plug tobacco can recieve fifty cents per hundred for the same in cash or in merchandise by calling on C.D. GRIMSHAW of this village on or before June 20, 1885. First come first served. Last Thursday afternoon the news flashed over the wires announcing the sudden and unexpected death of Mrs. Addie BROWN KNIGHT, of Burgh Hill, O. She died of pneumonia. She was born in this village in 1840 and lived here until she grew to womanhood, except while attending school at Adams and Fairfield. She took for her life's future Dr. Joesph KNIGHT and removed to Burgh Hill where where she had since lived. She leaves one child, a son sixteen years of age. She is the sister of Philo M. BROWN, Esq, of this village and a niece of Hon. Levi H. BROWN, of Watertown, N.Y. She joined the Baptist church of Lorraine long years ago and has always been a worthy and consistent member of that denomination. The brothers and sisters of the deceased living in their far away scattered homes, have in their sad hour of affliction our most tender sympathy.

Mark Wentling wrote: > > Hi folks, > > I have added a map I got from the Library of Congress of the town of Hounsfield > in 1855 to my website I know the map, and thanks! Would you consider (knowing you have nothing better to do!) making others for other townships? Either for this website, yours, or another rootsweb site (which they'd be glad to give you for free for a purpose like this!) Lots of exclamation points, but this is good news. Now for a different topic. Did someone tell me you had pics on the web somewhere for Sackets Harbor? If you did, I missed, and would like to link from the Hounsfield page. Problem, in case you think I'm denser than usual: two computers, one upstairs where I do mostly mail and work on the site, and a much newer pentium dnstrs where I surf. Sometimes URLs get lost on the stairs, so to speak. Yes, we're getting a modern one as soon as the 2000s come out, but meanwhile, back at the ranch... Nan -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyjeffer/