To: Listers I have thanked her personally, however, I wish to thank the others who responded. It is a good feeling when I find what someone is searching for, and at the same time, it is disappointing when I cannot find that needed connection. I moved back to Henderson after having lived in Florida for 20 years. Had a wonderful summer and the winter hasn't been too bad. On the real cold days, I just wait til noontime before attempting to start the car. Have been on the internet since mid-July and still have lots to learn. Have met some interesting people, whom I still have contact with fom time to time. The genealogy keeps me very busy, and sometimes wished there was another hour in the day. Again, thanks to those who responded. Florence

Does anyone have information on any of the following names that appear in the will of Sally Penney dated April 1888? Elman Tyler, Etta Chapman, Newton Smith, Asa Smith, Aruna Smith, Harvey Smith, all of Watertown or Henderson Sharon

February 13, 2000 I'd like to "second" that message. Florence did some lookups for me which were extremely useful. She certainly deserves our thanks. Don C. Orth Ottawa, Ontario. Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: bonnie hill <bonnieh@bigskytel.com> To: <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: February 12, 2000 4:05 PM Subject: Thank you to a member genealogist > Hi List > > I would like to issue a GREAT BIG THANKS to Florence Secor for the help she > has been to me. She looks for my people everytime she goes into a library > in Jeff. Co. And while we haven't made a connection yet, every clue is > precious and becomes a part of my reference files. > > Thanks Florence for being such a good genealogy helper. > > Regards > Bonnie in Idaho > > > > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ >

Hi Lois.......I tried to find your site on lighthouses, but didn't make the connection. Would you please let us know how to reach your site. Thank you...Mary

That should be "The siteowner" -- sorry, Nan -- I didn't read my letter over twice or thrice -- in most cases it doesn't do me any good anyways. Shirley

Received this request regarding links -- hope I'm not out of bounds here, Nan. Shirley "If that lady replies to you directly & not through the regular path, please post it for us to see. I'm building my page now, too, and need to know protocol for listing favorite links." I siteowner has not responded to me, but someone else gave me very good information: : http://www.usgennet.org/~ahnybrow/BrownvilleMain.html He also stated: "As to protocol for linking to someone else's site -- there is none... if an url exists "out there", you can link to it... but remember it might go dead in future or be renamed etc -- see tools in Cyndi's kit (link below) to monitor those things. "It is a courtesy to let a fellow genealogist know, perhaps... but nothing more. "Some websites even make it easy to link to them if you want a link on your pages to them...... see for example, http://www.cyndislist.com/construc.htm#Link To "If you have not read through it already, this is a fabulous resource for do-it-yourself webpages... Cyndi's Genealogy Home Page Construction Kit http://www.CyndisList.com/construc.htm"

I didn't think there was a lighthouse on Pillar Point, but thought Phyllis would know for sure. I worked on that Ward family as I thought the Geo Ward was in my line - there are two lighthouses mention with them - one I believe was in the Ellisberg- Henderson area and the other near Oswego - can't remember the names , but I will look at the obits to find out Alice Corbett -----Original Message----- From: Mark and Faith Lustik <lusyke@gisco.net> To: NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, February 13, 2000 8:12 AM Subject: Re: Pillar Point Lighthouse >I lived on Pillar Point for most of my life as did my dad and grandfather. I've >never heard of a lighthouse. Across from Pillar point is the Sackets Harbor >lighthouse which directed the ships into Black River Bay. >Faith > >Alice Corbett wrote: > >> You might try Phyllis Putman, she is on the look-ups list of Nan's web >> site. If anyone would know about a lighthouse on Pillar Point or find out >> for you I believe it would be Phyllis >> Alice Corbett >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lois <doghouse@imcnet.net> >> To: NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> >> Date: Sunday, February 13, 2000 12:36 AM >> Subject: Pillar Point Lighthouse >> >> > >> >A visitor to my Lighthouses of Jefferson County site left the following >> comment in my guestbook: >> >___________________________________________________________________________ >> _ >> >Comments: My GG Grandfather was Henry James Ward. Family records show that >> he was the keeper of the >> > Pillar Point Lighthouse in Brownsville, Jefferson Co. I saw no >> mention of this lighthouse on your site and was >> > wondering if we had the name correct or if it was just omitted. >> Also, another relative George H. Ward ran the >> > Horse Island Lighthouse while working for the Coast Guard in the >> early 1900's. Looking forward to hearing from >> > you regarding the Pillar Point Lighthouse. >> >___________________________________________________________________________ >> _ >> > >> >I am not aware of a lighthouse at Pillar Point so I am hoping that someone >> else may have some info that >> >I can forward to my visitor. >> > >> >Thanks is advance! >> > >> >Lois Flack >> > >> > >> >============================== >> >Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. >> >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >> >Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. >> > >> >> ============================== >> The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: >> 12.8 million individuals and counting. >> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > > >============================== >The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: >12.8 million individuals and counting. >http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ >

I lived on Pillar Point for most of my life as did my dad and grandfather. I've never heard of a lighthouse. Across from Pillar point is the Sackets Harbor lighthouse which directed the ships into Black River Bay. Faith Alice Corbett wrote: > You might try Phyllis Putman, she is on the look-ups list of Nan's web > site. If anyone would know about a lighthouse on Pillar Point or find out > for you I believe it would be Phyllis > Alice Corbett > -----Original Message----- > From: Lois <doghouse@imcnet.net> > To: NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Sunday, February 13, 2000 12:36 AM > Subject: Pillar Point Lighthouse > > > > >A visitor to my Lighthouses of Jefferson County site left the following > comment in my guestbook: > >___________________________________________________________________________ > _ > >Comments: My GG Grandfather was Henry James Ward. Family records show that > he was the keeper of the > > Pillar Point Lighthouse in Brownsville, Jefferson Co. I saw no > mention of this lighthouse on your site and was > > wondering if we had the name correct or if it was just omitted. > Also, another relative George H. Ward ran the > > Horse Island Lighthouse while working for the Coast Guard in the > early 1900's. Looking forward to hearing from > > you regarding the Pillar Point Lighthouse. > >___________________________________________________________________________ > _ > > > >I am not aware of a lighthouse at Pillar Point so I am hoping that someone > else may have some info that > >I can forward to my visitor. > > > >Thanks is advance! > > > >Lois Flack > > > > > >============================== > >Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > >Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > > > > ============================== > The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > 12.8 million individuals and counting. > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/

You might try Phyllis Putman, she is on the look-ups list of Nan's web site. If anyone would know about a lighthouse on Pillar Point or find out for you I believe it would be Phyllis Alice Corbett -----Original Message----- From: Lois <doghouse@imcnet.net> To: NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, February 13, 2000 12:36 AM Subject: Pillar Point Lighthouse > >A visitor to my Lighthouses of Jefferson County site left the following comment in my guestbook: >___________________________________________________________________________ _ >Comments: My GG Grandfather was Henry James Ward. Family records show that he was the keeper of the > Pillar Point Lighthouse in Brownsville, Jefferson Co. I saw no mention of this lighthouse on your site and was > wondering if we had the name correct or if it was just omitted. Also, another relative George H. Ward ran the > Horse Island Lighthouse while working for the Coast Guard in the early 1900's. Looking forward to hearing from > you regarding the Pillar Point Lighthouse. >___________________________________________________________________________ _ > >I am not aware of a lighthouse at Pillar Point so I am hoping that someone else may have some info that >I can forward to my visitor. > >Thanks is advance! > >Lois Flack > > >============================== >Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. >

Hello, I am new to the list. I am looking for any information on my third great grandfather and grandmother. Marlin Vaughn was born in 1802 and Amarylla Mann was born in 1804. They would have been married around 1823, where unknown. I first found them in Ostwegat Twp., St. Lawrence County, New York in the 1830 census. I later found them in Ellisburg Twp., Jefferson County, New York in the 1840 census. My grandfather bought land in Allen County, Ft. Wayne, IN from Robert and Mary Ellis of Jefferson County, New York. They moved to the Ft. Wayne, IN area around 1843. The family has been there ever since. Many times the (L) in Marlin has been crossed to make it Martin. Also, Amarylla's name has been spelled many different ways. The last name has been spelled Vaughn and Vaughan. I have been looking for them for the past 22 years, but can't find anything previous to the New York 1830 census. They had eight children. If anybody can please help me or give me any suggestions, it would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Jim Vaughn (JVAUGHN755@AOL.COM)

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A visitor to my Lighthouses of Jefferson County site left the following comment in my guestbook: ____________________________________________________________________________ Comments: My GG Grandfather was Henry James Ward. Family records show that he was the keeper of the Pillar Point Lighthouse in Brownsville, Jefferson Co. I saw no mention of this lighthouse on your site and was wondering if we had the name correct or if it was just omitted. Also, another relative George H. Ward ran the Horse Island Lighthouse while working for the Coast Guard in the early 1900's. Looking forward to hearing from you regarding the Pillar Point Lighthouse. ____________________________________________________________________________ I am not aware of a lighthouse at Pillar Point so I am hoping that someone else may have some info that I can forward to my visitor. Thanks is advance! Lois Flack

Thanks to someone who asked me if there were any Fullers on the list, I discovered from an Index that I had made of names in three chapters of articles from The Times, that besides Ernest Cook's articles, there were at least two articles written by an L. N. Fuller. Those two articles indicate that they were copyrighted in 1923 by the Brockway Company puslibhsers of the Watertown Daily Times. Perhaps, Ernest Cook did not write all 25 articles for which I'm searching. Or, it could be that Mr. Cook's articles appeared at another time. Lesson: Put dates on all clippings, if you can find the dates that is. So, to answer the gentleman's question -- no, there are no Fullers on the list as found in the L. N. Fuller article. However, I do have another source of names (Pat James' Genealogical Journal of Jefferson County, N. Y.) and I shall look in that tomorrow for a "Fuller" participant in the Patriot War. I am finding the two lists have disparities. Disparities are what keep some of us going, aren't they? Shirley

Hi Folks -- the www has your answers on this one... Use the search engine at http://www.google.com/ with two sets of search terms: patriots war watertown yields 162 hits and patriot war watertown yields 292 hits I read several of the relevant pages -- there is no consistency in the spelling of the name of the war: patriot patriots patriot's and patriots' The google search ignores the "'s" so only two searches are needed to get all the variants. You might try changing Watertown to Jefferson and see if other sites are found. // Regards, Gord Hines (in Regina SK Canada) Shirley Farone wrote: Subject: Patriot War of 1838 Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 19:39:51 -0800 Resent-From: NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 22:40:51 -0500 From: Shirley Farone <twigs@bright.net> To: NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.co > Someone wrote me inquiring of the Patriot War and what it was all about. > He apparently hadn't heard of it and since I believe he isn't alone, I'm > posting his question and my feeble answer on the List. Perhaps someone > will come up with a more able answer. Hope it's kosher to do so. Shirley > > Dear Shirley, > > For the benefit of what may be dumb and dumber down > here in Dixie, just what do you mean by the Patriot War? > The Revolution, the fiasco of 1812; or do you mean, perhaps, > "the late unpleasantness" between North and South? > > My answer: > > Oh, ho, ho -- another person to find out about one of the most fascinating > pieces of history to come out of Jefferson County. There will be others > who can explain this better than I and I hope I understand it thoroughly > enough to make it simple. > > In 1838 and the months leading up to it, there were those in several NY > counties -- like Jefferson, St. Lawrence, Oswego, and Onondaga, (not sure > about Franklin) who thought that the Canadian people should free themselves > from the Crown much in the same manner as the Colonists did in our War for > Independence. So, there was a move on by an organization of mostly farmers > called Hunters Lodge -- which would acquire enough members to go up the > Prescott, Ontario - for one -- to help out with a resurrection of sorts. > Offhand, I think the figure was 162 men, from surrounding areas -- were > involved. They (including the Canadians involved) got caught -- some were > released from jail -- some were transported to Van Dieman's land -- and > some were executed at Kingston, Ontario -- (included my ggm's brother, > Sylvanus Sweet -- his brother, was freed because of age) Not many people > know about the War, but if you have ancestry in Jefferson County, you might > find a study of this little War very intriguing. There are several > articles about it -- here and there -- there is also a Canadian site (I > don't have the address now), but that, of course, is biased. > > I have a list of those involved if you need a look-up. > > Someone please help me out? I'm an old lady and don't usually get things > right....but I'm glad you asked. > > Shirley > > > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/

Hi Shirley -- here's the email with the Brownville link info: <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Subject: [JeffHistGen] More Info. added at Brownville, Jefferson, NY ALHN site Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 00:16:59 -0800 From: "Debbie" <axtman@premier1.net> Reply-To: jeffhistgen@onelist.com To: <NY-ALHN@USGenNet.Org>, "NEWYORK-ROOTS-L"<NEWYORK-Roots-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU>, "ALHN List"<alhn@rootsquest.com>, "Jefferson County History and Genealogy"<jeffhistgen@onelist.com>,<NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> From: "Debbie" <axtman@premier1.net> Hi everyone I would like to announce that Sherrye Woodworth has added a lot more data at her Brownville, Jefferson, NY, site. She has added more early biographies, early settlement information, early Businesses, and the History of Dexter. Please come visit at: http://www.usgennet.org/~ahnybrow/BrownvilleMain.html Looks great Sherrye! Debbie Axtman Co-State Coordinator. New York ALHN http://www.usgennet.org/~alhnnyus/nyalhn.htm <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> As to protocol for linking to someone else's site -- there is none... if an url exists "out there", you can link to it... but remember it might go dead in future or be renamed etc -- see tools in Cyndi's kit (link below) to monitor those things. It is a courtesy to let a fellow genealogist know, perhaps... but nothing more. Some websites even make it easy to link to them if you want a link on your pages to them...... see for example, http://www.cyndislist.com/construc.htm#Link To If you have not read through it already, this is a fabulous resource for do-it-yourself webpages... Cyndi's Genealogy Home Page Construction Kit http://www.CyndisList.com/construc.htm // Regards, Gord Hines (in Regina SK Canada) Shirley Farone wrote: Subject: Brownville site Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 19:00:21 -0800 Resent-From: NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 22:01:23 -0500 From: Shirley Farone <twigs@bright.net> To: NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com > Need to know the website address of the lady who has the wonderful > Brownville (NY) site. It passed thru here about 4 weeks ago and I've lost > it. I'm doing my own website and would love to get permission to put a > link to her site (under my favorite sites) -- not sure of the protocol on > that, though. > > Shirley Farone > > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com.

Someone wrote me inquiring of the Patriot War and what it was all about. He apparently hadn't heard of it and since I believe he isn't alone, I'm posting his question and my feeble answer on the List. Perhaps someone will come up with a more able answer. Hope it's kosher to do so. Shirley Dear Shirley, For the benefit of what may be dumb and dumber down here in Dixie, just what do you mean by the Patriot War? The Revolution, the fiasco of 1812; or do you mean, perhaps, "the late unpleasantness" between North and South? My answer: Oh, ho, ho -- another person to find out about one of the most fascinating pieces of history to come out of Jefferson County. There will be others who can explain this better than I and I hope I understand it thoroughly enough to make it simple. In 1838 and the months leading up to it, there were those in several NY counties -- like Jefferson, St. Lawrence, Oswego, and Onondaga, (not sure about Franklin) who thought that the Canadian people should free themselves from the Crown much in the same manner as the Colonists did in our War for Independence. So, there was a move on by an organization of mostly farmers called Hunters Lodge -- which would acquire enough members to go up the Prescott, Ontario - for one -- to help out with a resurrection of sorts. Offhand, I think the figure was 162 men, from surrounding areas -- were involved. They (including the Canadians involved) got caught -- some were released from jail -- some were transported to Van Dieman's land -- and some were executed at Kingston, Ontario -- (included my ggm's brother, Sylvanus Sweet -- his brother, was freed because of age) Not many people know about the War, but if you have ancestry in Jefferson County, you might find a study of this little War very intriguing. There are several articles about it -- here and there -- there is also a Canadian site (I don't have the address now), but that, of course, is biased. I have a list of those involved if you need a look-up. Someone please help me out? I'm an old lady and don't usually get things right....but I'm glad you asked. Shirley

Need to know the website address of the lady who has the wonderful Brownville (NY) site. It passed thru here about 4 weeks ago and I've lost it. I'm doing my own website and would love to get permission to put a link to her site (under my favorite sites) -- not sure of the protocol on that, though. Shirley Farone

... and I'll second that!! Thank you, Florence, for the help you gave me, too!! // Gord Hines (in Regina SK Canada) bonnie hill wrote: Subject: Thank you to a member genealogist Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 13:12:12 -0800 Resent-From: NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 14:05:05 -0700 From: bonnie hill <bonnieh@bigskytel.com> To: NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com > Hi List > > I would like to issue a GREAT BIG THANKS to Florence Secor for the help she > has been to me. She looks for my people everytime she goes into a library > in Jeff. Co. And while we haven't made a connection yet, every clue is > precious and becomes a part of my reference files. > > Thanks Florence for being such a good genealogy helper. > > Regards > Bonnie in Idaho > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/

Would like to know the initial date in which the 25 articles on the Patriot War appeared in the Watertown Daily Times. I have indication that they started appearing in 1923, but I would like to know the month and day. Flower Memorial has a notebook about this War and a few of the articles -- Theresa Library has 22 chapters, but I'm told that some were cut short at the bottom. There were supposedly 25 articles in all. Does anyone know if the Watertown Daily Times has the complete set of articles in its files? It would be much easier to copy from its files than from microfilm, but I need to have these articles - especially the bottom portion of Chapter Three. Shirley Farone Researching SWEET and HOSNER of Plessis

Hi List I would like to issue a GREAT BIG THANKS to Florence Secor for the help she has been to me. She looks for my people everytime she goes into a library in Jeff. Co. And while we haven't made a connection yet, every clue is precious and becomes a part of my reference files. Thanks Florence for being such a good genealogy helper. Regards Bonnie in Idaho