Please visit the Hounsfield American Local History Network website at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~legends/hounsfield-alhn.html and enjoy three articles from the Watertown Daily Times spanning 40 years that recall Camp's Ditch -- Hounsfield's earliest canal! Sincerely, Mark A. Wentling Webmaster, Hounsfield ALHN

Perhaps, some of you recall my email requesting information as to the churches in Brownville, NY due to the marriage of my Grandparents in the 1880's. So many times I answer email and help people when I know the answer even if it is not my Surnames I'm Researching. But it seems that everytime, that I have requested something on the NYJEFFER List someone writes back and reminds me that if I want an answer order an LDS Film or go to the LDS and look it up. What ever happened to helping others? I help on many occasions. Perhaps I should stop helping others seeking information. . The person gave me the Churches in Brownville, however they stated that LDS has the films and how to look them up.Also stated they would do the work for me this time. I have a small Genealogy Business and I teach at for our local Gen. Society and also taught at the LDS Family History Fair this Year. I also know that the Local LDS keeps certain local Films on Hand because, down Here I look things up for People everyday. Therefore I felt someone in this Area could do it easily for me. If they did not want to,then they should not of done it. I do not make a fortune at my small Business and I have an Ill husband. Is it wrong to write to a local List for an Answer to a Question? Do I have the wrong Idea that this List is to Help one another? To think that I was born in Watertown NY makes me wonder what has ever happened to the nice people I knew from there. I would also like to state that sometimes the LDS Library Information does not have each and every Church Listed.

How do I contact NYJEFFER- listowern/administrator/postmaster offline? Mike

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Sandy: You said you found Alice Woolever, age 21, on the 1870 census. Was she married then, ie., is that her married name. If not, then do you have her parents' name? Have you looked for her on the 1850 and 1860? Ray

What town in the 1870 census did you find Alice Woolever and is that her maiden or married name? Alice -----Original Message----- From: Sandy Nelson <nelsonb@olynet.com> To: NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, April 22, 2000 12:30 PM Subject: Re: NYJEFFER-D Digest V00 #85 >Hi, >Is there a good source of birth records on the net for Jefferson county? I >am looking for an Alice Woolever, I found her on the 1870 census and she was >21. That makes her birthyear about 1849, but that is all the information I >have other than she was born in New York. Just a small place. Any >suggestions? >Thanks, >Sandy >-----Original Message----- >From: NYJEFFER-D-request@rootsweb.com <NYJEFFER-D-request@rootsweb.com> >To: NYJEFFER-D@rootsweb.com <NYJEFFER-D@rootsweb.com> >Date: Saturday, April 22, 2000 4:57 AM >Subject: NYJEFFER-D Digest V00 #85 > > > > >============================== >Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. >RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi >

Hi, Is there a good source of birth records on the net for Jefferson county? I am looking for an Alice Woolever, I found her on the 1870 census and she was 21. That makes her birthyear about 1849, but that is all the information I have other than she was born in New York. Just a small place. Any suggestions? Thanks, Sandy -----Original Message----- From: NYJEFFER-D-request@rootsweb.com <NYJEFFER-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: NYJEFFER-D@rootsweb.com <NYJEFFER-D@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, April 22, 2000 4:57 AM Subject: NYJEFFER-D Digest V00 #85

Daniel or "Dan" PINNEY of Royalton. VT, was married to Abigail (PARKHURST?). They had six children: Henry, Nelson D., Alden, Abby, b 1830, born in Vermont, and H. Sarah, b 1832, & Emmaline, b 1840, possibly born in Jefferson County, NY. According to Sutter County, Calif. Probate Records in 1897, Abby married a MARTIN, and lived in Merced, Calif.; one sister md a G. W. ROAT, and lived in Pillar Point; and the third md A. P. SCOTT, and lived in Kansas City, MO. Henry was unmarried. I have Alden's descendants to the present. I have no record of Nelson. I am trying to locate descendants of Abby, H. Sarah, & Emmaline. CID [Charles Irwin Davis] <CIDEka@aol.com> HAPPY FACE PUBLISHERS. Eureka, California

Henry PINNEY d abt 13 Feb 1897 in Sutter County, Calif. Probate records state that he owned property in [Jefferson County] New York valued at $600. Bruce F. MARTIN resided in Watertown, and was appointed executor of the will. He declined to act as such in California. Abby [PINNEY] MARTIN, of Merced, Calif. was appointed executrix of the estate. Bruce F. MARTIN, of Pamelia Twp was also listed as a next of kin to Henry PINNEY. I am trying to locate ancestors and/or descendants of Bruce F. MARTIN CID [Charles Irwin Davis] <CIDEka@aol.com> HAPPY FACE PUBLISHERS. Eureka, California

In the winter of 1813, Samuel BAILEY, Olive (__)BAILEY, and at least three of their children (Joshua, Alison, Lewis) all died within one month. Is there a record of a "plague" that hit Jefferson County, NY at that time? Did it hit a particular village or area of the county? One daughter, Nancy BAILEY survived and married John KINGSBURY ca. 1827 and they lived in Antwerp. Thank you for any information. Bernice

I am researching the Adams family of Jefferson County, NY and have come across some more information. I would like to post to this list to see if anyone can help elaborate on some of it. Robert Adams was born 8/2/1777 in Wethersfiled, Connecticut. He emigrated to the Town of Rutland about 1800 and had a farm on Rutland Hollow Road. In 1803, there were nine farms that occupied on or near the Rutland Hollow Road. The occupants were William Newton, John Coates, John Eddy, Morgan Starks, Robert Adams, Stanley Weeks and three men by the name of Maltby. Robert Adams was married to Nancy Andrus, who was born 2/2/1780, in Glastonbury, Connecticut, and whom died 12/26/1866. They were married April 11,1802, in the town of Rultand by David Coffin, Justice of the Peace. They moved to the town of Hounsfiled and Robert Adams was employed as an artificer (repaired and built small arms) at Sackett's Harbor, NY They later moved to the Town of Alexandria. Robert Adams built a log cabin on the old Military Highway. The Adams Farm is two miles north of Redwood on Rt. 37. Robert Adams, with most of his family is buried in the Adams cemetery on the Adams farm. It is on a ridge that overlooks the waters of Flatrock Creek and the railroad track and about 100 yards from where is original log cabin was built. Children of Nancy and Robert: Robert Adams, 5/10/1803-8/28/1889 Genea Adams 2/28/1807-6/26/1815 John Adams 3/14/1810-7/16/1885 he married Sarahann Thrasher. Sarahann was one of seven children born to Joseph and Susan Ford Thrasher. Elijah Adams 3/12/1812-1898 married Dolly Cronkite Samuel Adams 4/10/1817-? married, name unknown John Adams, son of Robert Adams and Nancy Andrus, was born April 14, 1810 in the town of Hounsfield. William George, gave this account of John Adams. He was a pettifogger. Besides being a pettifogger, he was also a fur buyer and a farmer. John married Sarahann Thrasher about 1835 and they lived on the Adams farm. Their children include: Nancy Adams 1838-11/14/1905 married Jason George Susan Adams 1841 married Alexander McDonald An article appears in what I assume to be the Watertown Daily Times, dated 8/19/1931 with a picture of a farm lost to fire. John Adams 1844 went West after serving in the Civil War. Nancy Adams was married to Jason George about 1860 and lived most likely in Philadelphia, NY. Later they resided in Redwood, where Jason worked in a glass factory. In about 1880 they moved to Ithaca, NY where the George's operated their own glass factory. Nancy raised her niece, Isabelle McDonald and also lived with her daughter and son in law, Sarah and George Hartman. Nancy is buried in Lakeview Cemetery in Ithaca, NY. Now from what I understand, there are articles written in The Watertown Daily times, an article about Robert Adams, Pioneer. The Gazetteer of Jeff, County 1684-1890 and an article in Centennial History of Jefferson County, NY by John A. Haddock. I would like to obtain copies of these articles as well for my own files.

Patricia, New York State required recording of births, marriages, and deaths as of 1880. However, in requesting a copy of a certificate you do need to know where the event took place. Town, Village, and City clerks have the records. -Florence- -----Original Message----- From: R Forte SR <fortesr@mnw.net> To: NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, April 21, 2000 7:31 AM Subject: Re: Information >Hello All, >Could someone please tell me when they started to keep Birth and Marriage records in New York. >Thank You Patricia > > >============================== >Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. >RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > >

Hello All, Could someone please tell me when they started to keep Birth and Marriage records in New York. Thank You Patricia

Hi, I'm still looking for more on Ann MONTGOMERY of County Antrium, Ireland and her husband, Christopher ALTON (previously ALLTIMES in Ireland) of County Limerick, son of Lawrence ALTON and Elizabeth or Mary. They moved from Jefferson Co. to Washington Co., Wisconsin about 1844. Abt. 1850 Ann left Christopher and returned to New York, probably Jefferson Co. Did she go live with ALTON relatives or MONTGOMERY relatives? Any help would be appreciated. Janet Russon

On October 7, 1883 my Grandmother Eliza Lida Whalen and my Grandfather Edward C. McMahon were married by the Rev. G. W. Fairman in Brownville, NY. Seeking the church that Rev. Fairman was associated with. Eliza was Protestant and Edward was Catholic. Any help on this would be appreciated.

--part1_7e.3b36d3c.262de589_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Listers Just received this from another Web Site and thought if very important and I'm forwarding this so that all the Researchers with Family passing throught Ohio can respond. Pat --part1_7e.3b36d3c.262de589_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-za02.mx.aol.com (rly-za02.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.98]) by air-za02.mail.aol.com (v70.20) with ESMTP; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:56:43 -0400 Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com (bl-11.rootsweb.com [209.85.6.27]) by rly-za02.mx.aol.com (v71.10) with ESMTP; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:56:31 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA26838; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 08:54:14 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 08:54:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Sender: PeggyLynnRowe@aol.com Tue Apr 18 08:54:10 2000 From: PeggyLynnRowe@aol.com Message-ID: <33.3e7fd39.262ddf01@aol.com> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:53:37 EDT Subject: Ohio Bill closing records Old-To: zuelsdorf@cybertime.net, OHLICKIN-L@rootsweb.com, GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-L@rootsweb.com, COX-L@rootsweb.com, cookie@clover.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 105 Resent-Message-ID: <rQ_dSC.A.AjG.lUI_4@bl-11.rootsweb.com> To: GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/1475 X-Loop: GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES-L-request@rootsweb.com Passing this {bad} news on from the Jefferson Co,Ohio list. > Hello list members searching Ohio records for marriage information: > This comes from the April 2000 Mahoning County Chapter of the OGS > newsletter: "Introduced into the Ohio House of Rep. is a bill to amend > the > Ohio Revised code that should have genealogists up in arms. 'It states, > in > part, that upon receiving a request for records pertaining to the > issuance of > marriage licenses, a probate court shall furnish copies of the records as > > provided under section 149.43 of the Ohio Revised code, except that the > court > shall delete or otherwise remove any social security numbers and the > maiden > names of the mothers of the parties to a marriage so that they are not > available to the person requesting the records, except for use by the > department of human services, law enforcement personnel, and if ordered > by > the court in a civil or criminal trial.' If any individual genealogist > feels > that t

Blaine Bettinger's monumental 50-page study of the Carrying of the Great Rope in 1814 from Sandy Creek to Sackets Harbor -- the most extensive study known to be written -- is available for reading online or for download and printing through your word processor. Thank you Blaine! Special thanks also to Marc E. Mosher for granting permission for his phoo of a memorial plaque to be used in conjunction with the site! Please visit the Hounsfield Resource Site of the American Local History Network and enjoy the fantastic history behind an amazing War of 1812 event. The address is: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~legends/hounsfield-alhn.html Enjoy! Mark A. Wentling Webmaster, Hounsfield ALHN

Seeking ancestry of John KENNEDY & Caroline CHADWICK below. I am especially interested in Caroline, but since I don't know when she died I can't obtain an obit or death certificate. . . . Hoping a willing someone has access to Henderson vital records or cemetery listings!: Thanks!, Mark Wentling +++++++++++++++++++ John KENNEDY, born about 1829 moved from Canada and settled in the town of Henderson, Jefferson County, where he died in 1885. Probably while he was still in Canada, he married Caroline CHADWICK, born about 1829, died sometime after 1897. In the 1880 census of the town of Henderson, John and Caroline were enumerated in dwelling number 93. John reported his birthplace as Ireland and parents birthplace Ireland. Caroline reported her age as 51, birthplace as Canada, and parents' birthplaces both in New York. KENNEDY Children: 1.Emily; married Mr. Streeter. Parents of: 1.Annie Streeter; married Mr. Zimmerman 2.Lydia; married John L. Stokes, died 1931, whom she outlived. 3.Linna 4.Allen, born about 1851, a laborer, according to the 1880 census of Henderson; married Ellen J., housekeeper, born about 1855 in Canada to an English father and an Irish mother. Parents of: 1.John L., born about 1873 in New York 2.Eugene A., born about 1876 in New York 3.Mearl, their daughter, born July 1879 in New York 5.May E.

Seeking ancestry of Fanny HASKINS, who married Joseph COLE, born 1798. Joseph moved to Smithville, Town of Adams, in 1814 with his parents Benjamin COLE & Martha WIGHTMAN. I wonder if Fanny was related to the Joseph HASKINS mentioned on the Jefferson County GenWeb site as a pioneer settler of the Town of Ellisburgh. Two of Joseph & Fanny's sons, Lyndon Cole & Harrison Cole, were soldiers in the Civil War for Sandy Creek, Oswego County. Fannie's last name may be spelled Hoskins or Huskins. Thanks for any leads! Mark Wentling

672 WILLIAMS,ABEL 68 M FARMER MASS WILLIAMS,REBECCA 38 F N.Y. WILLIAMS,AARON 28 M N.Y. WILLIAMS,BETSEY 14 F N.Y. WILLIAMS,SARAH 12 F N.Y. WILLIAMS,GEORGE 2 M N.Y. WILLIAMS,FRANCES 2 F N.Y. I think this is on page 467, but I can't check until tonite as I don't have my disk here. The census films are available from inter lib loan, LDS and county clerk's office of the county they are in. Alice -----Original Message----- From: Donna Williams <RONNA-1998@prodigy.net> To: NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, April 17, 2000 8:46 AM Subject: George Williams >I recently found a George Williams from Clayton in the 1850 census who could possibly be my great great grandfather. Says he was with the family #672, born in NY and was 2 at the time. Can anyone help me figure out how to get the entire census from Clayton so that I may see who his other family members were. My great grandfather's name was George and being new at all of this I am seeing where families used names over and over and am hoping that this George from Clayton may be related. Thanks in advance for any help. please email me privately with any info. >Donna R Williams >e-mail: RONNA-1998@prodigy.net > > >============================== >Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. >