Gary, Saw an interesting name here. What FREEMAN married into what TOWNSEND line? I have TOWNSENDS and LEWIS's in Great Bend and Champion area in the same time periods. Don Bryant Grand Rapids > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Barnes [mailto:Summit1@pacbell.net] > Sent: 05 May, 2000 2:31 AM > To: NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: NY Freemans > > > I am looking for any information on FREEMAN from the Jefferson nd Lewis > Co NY area. > > > THis would start with ALFRED FREEMAN and his son Erastus Freeman. They > owned the Checker House/ Freeman House in Great Bend and Champion NY. > > Erastus married ABI STRICKLAND and had 8 Children 1 of which was Mary > Ellen Freeman the wife of John Francis. They had ABI FRANCIS my g > grandmother. > > Erastus also had John, Charles and George as well as Harriet, Helen, > Almira and Martha. This occurred circa 1832 to 1850. > > Families that married into the Freeman line were - STRICKLAND, LOOMIS, > ROBERTS, MERRIT, PHELPS and Townsend/Seaman lines. > > Any help would be appreciated > > Gary > > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >

Does anyone know what activities Col. William Stone's 14th Regiment New York Militia were engaged in during the War of 1812 -- specifically, did they participate in either of the battles at Sackets Harbor? Some people in that group were recruited from the Brownville/Orleans area. Thanks, Mark Wentling Washington, D.C.

I am looking for any information on FREEMAN from the Jefferson nd Lewis Co NY area. THis would start with ALFRED FREEMAN and his son Erastus Freeman. They owned the Checker House/ Freeman House in Great Bend and Champion NY. Erastus married ABI STRICKLAND and had 8 Children 1 of which was Mary Ellen Freeman the wife of John Francis. They had ABI FRANCIS my g grandmother. Erastus also had John, Charles and George as well as Harriet, Helen, Almira and Martha. This occurred circa 1832 to 1850. Families that married into the Freeman line were - STRICKLAND, LOOMIS, ROBERTS, MERRIT, PHELPS and Townsend/Seaman lines. Any help would be appreciated Gary

Jean, I don't have a record of hearing from you, but since I'm so disorganized, that's not a surprised. If you have contacted me about the City of Watertown 1855 directory, please let me know. If you haven't had time to work on it, we understand! You took the project sight unseen, and some people have said the print was too small for easy copying. Just let me know, and if you can't make it, please send back the copy. Nan Dixon Bandit2nd@aol.com wrote: > > Hi, my name is Jean Mangan Bandit2nd@aol.com > 8720 N. Brooks Rd. > Spokane, WA 99224-9302 > I would be happy to do some typing for you. I have ancestors from > Morristown, Rossie and Hammond, (St. Lawrence Co) and Jefferson CO. I would > need pages to copy from. My husband and I are retired so have lots of time. > Thanks Jean

Hello I am new at this list and am researching my wife's late husband Franklin Jacob GARNER b.Sept. 28, 1927 d. June 30, 1966 Franklin's father Hiram John GARNER b May 8, 1899 d. April 9, 1973 Hiram's father Frank B. GARNER b. Jan. 19, 1869 d. May 28, 1956 Frank B. was married to Celia A. Bowman b.jun. 25, 1873 died June 11, 1958. Frank B. and Celia were married in Watertown, NY. However the trail runs dead COLD from there. Does ANYONE know of these people ? Can you help me ? There exists a RUMOR(oral history is usuall the term), that somewhere down the line they are related to FDR's vice president John Nance "Cactus Jack" Garner. If you can help please do, as my mother-in-law thinks genealogy is a lot of whooie. HELP me prove to her otherwise, that as a group we are as kind and caring, NOT wasting our time. I can be reached at jlverheule@aol.com Thanking You all in advance Jim VerHeule

I found a "Name Index of Topographical Atlas of Jefferson County, NY" in the FHL. Unfortunately, the LDS genealogical library doesn't have the Atlas itself. Is there anybody who would be willing to copy the following records for me? PINNEY, D.; Brownsville Twp, Sec 22N 42W, Page 12 PARKHURST, (-?-); Theresa Twp, Sec 135, Page 34 PARKHURST, A>; Theresa Twp, Sec 135, Page 34 I would be willing to pay any expenses. Thanks CID [Charles Irwin Davis] <CIDEka@aol.com> HAPPY FACE PUBLISHERS. Eureka, California 279 Hillsdale St., Eureka, CA 95501-1720

Mark, your pages are sure looking great! I love the work you're doing. Deb -----Original Message----- From: Mark Wentling <mwentlin@ngs.org> To: nyjeffer-l@rootsweb.com <nyjeffer-l@rootsweb.com>; jeffhistgen@onelist.com <jeffhistgen@onelist.com>; jeffcofamhis@egroups.com <jeffcofamhis@egroups.com> Date: Friday, April 28, 2000 1:45 PM Subject: [jeffcofamhis] Ira HALL Family of Hounsfield *online* Please visit the Hounsfield ALHN website and read about the Ira HALL family of Sulpher Springs . . . . . one of the best family history presentations I have seen on the web, brought to us by Kelly Hokkanen! http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~legends/hounsfield-alhn.html -- Mark Wentling Washington, D.C. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Get paid for the stuff you know! Get answers for the stuff you don’t. And get $10 to spend on the site! http://click.egroups.com/1/2200/5/_/23788/_/956955351/ - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jefferson County New York Genealogy Family History organized to promote and share Genealogy and other related Family History matters in the North Country. sagemarie98@earthlink.net

An "Alden PINNEY" was a passenger on the SS Prometheus which sailed Oct 5, 1852, from New York City to San Juan de Nicaragua, enroute to the California gold mines. Was this the same Alden PINNEY who md Elmeda TIMERMAN in Orleans, Jefferson County, NY. in Feb, 1850, and had a dau, Percis E. PINNEY, born in Orleans in Dec., 1850? This Alden's bro, Henry PINNEY, also of Jefferson County, was in Calif. in 1852. Did their Bro, Nelson D. PINNEY also go to Calif? CID [Charles Irwin Davis] <CIDEka@aol.com> HAPPY FACE PUBLISHERS. Eureka, California CID [Charles Irwin Davis] <CIDEka@aol.com> HAPPY FACE PUBLISHERS. Eureka, California

Hi again Bernice -- I did a bit more digging around...and found two instances. Here is reference to an 1813 epidemic in one part of Jefferson County; found at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyjeffer/frencht.htm "RODMAN... In 1813 an epidemic prevailed, causing 60 deaths in 3 months." The original source of this webpage text [and this snippet of information] is from JEFFERSON COUNTY, from the GAZETTEER OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK, by J. H. French. Published by R. Pearsall Smith, Syracuse, N. Y. 1860. Here is a reference to a typhoid epidemic in 1812 in at least one part of Jefferson County -- the disease might well have lingered on into 1813. "In the year 1812 the typhoid fever was epidemic in Champion and very fatal; many heads of families were swept away,..." Source: The biography of HIRAM HUBBARD found at http://www.usgennet.org/~ahnyjeff/champ/chbios3.htm A review of conditions that facilitate transmission of these epidemics might be worthwhile to see if they could be the ones you are looking for. // Regards, Gord Hines (in Regina SK Canada) Gord Hines wrote: Subject: Re: 1813 EPIDEMIC? Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 05:04:24 -0700 Resent-From: NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 06:04:12 -0600 From: Gord Hines <ghines@sk.sympatico.ca> To: NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com > Hi Bernice -- > There were no generally widespread epidemics in 1813 America. The most > common local epidemics to afflict colonial and early American settlers were: > Yellow fever, Smallpox, Cholera and Diphtheria > This is based on disease/ epidemic outbreaks recorded in a number of > sources on the www. > > The timing of 1813 in northern states, especially in counties near the present > Canada-US border, does suggest the possibility of disease transmission > associated with movement of military and volunteer forces involved in the > War of 1812-1814. It is a fact recorded in several histories of this war that > various diseases caused significant loss of life for some units and in some locales. > > Jefferson County was a major "marshaling area" for troops that fought the British > and their allies in this war.... and 1813 was the year of the battle of Sackets > Harbor. > > You might check out how Antwerp was involved with that War effort in 1813. > > Here are a few other suggestions that might help confirm the probability of some > epidemic being the cause of death. > > To search for evidence of local epidemics, where there appear to be no records, > check local cemetery records (transcriptions, on-line databases, etc) or church > burial records (and online databases) for "clustered deaths" that take several > members (especially children and the elderly - e.g. grandparents) in the same > family within a short period of time. This could be over several months as a > disease works its way progressively through a dispersed population of a small > farming community. > > A nearby example of a locale epidemic is in this record from Herkimer County: > "WILLIAM ALEXANDER, ... died January 3d, 1813, aged 37 years, of an > epidemic fever, which prevailed pretty extensively in the county, and carried > off a great many of the adult inhabitants." > source: Chapter Thirteen, Benton's History of Herkimer County > [found at <http://www.global2000.net/fortklock/Chapter13.htm>] > > // Gord Hines (in Regina SK Canada) > > BAnnMunsey@aol.com wrote: > Subject: 1813 EPIDEMIC? > Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 07:32:59 -0700 > Resent-From: NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 10:32:46 EDT > From: BAnnMunsey@aol.com > To: NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com > > > In the winter of 1813, Samuel BAILEY, Olive (__)BAILEY, and at least three of > > their children (Joshua, Alison, Lewis) all died within one month. Is there a > > record of a "plague" that hit Jefferson County, NY at that time? Did it hit > > a particular village or area of the county? One daughter, Nancy BAILEY > > survived and married John KINGSBURY ca. 1827 and they lived in Antwerp. > > Thank you for any information. > > Bernice

Joyce, I am sending this information to the mailing list, because yours is not the only letter I have received on this topic. The Jefferson County GenWebSite (URL below) has a page called New York State Places. If the place you are questioning is not on this list, I know nothing about it. There is also a list on the New York State Page (click on the license plate at the top of the page) which may be fuller; I have not checked. I believe there is another list of places that have changed their names. The Jefferson County site is limited, for the most part, to Jefferson County. Nan Dixon, listmaster > I am doing some geneological research and the birthplace listed for one > of my ancestors is St. Joseph, NY and there is some indication that is > was in Sullivan Co. > > Thank-you for any help you can give me in locating this town. > > JOYCE WILLIAMS -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyjeffer/

Hi, Is there somewhere to research 1860 census records on the net? Or the State Census records for New York? Thanks, Sandy -----Original Message----- From: NYJEFFER-D-request@rootsweb.com <NYJEFFER-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: NYJEFFER-D@rootsweb.com <NYJEFFER-D@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, April 27, 2000 4:46 PM Subject: NYJEFFER-D Digest V00 #89

Mike, For some reason I can't copy my Cem records But here is what I have in my Glenwood Cem records for Andrew Kennedy d 4/5/1901 b 1838 - Light Art Co E 4th Rhode Island Reg - GAR marker Dexter wf Mary d 1/1/1890 57y 10m 18d = b 2/14/1832 Sec 1 lot 11 1/2 In same lot is Agnes (Kennedy) Quinn d 11/10/1937 b 1872 James Quinn h/ Agnes (I forgot to get his dates) Julia Ann Quinn ( forgot her dates also) I looked up a bunch of obits for early burials when I read the stones for Glenwood, but I don't remember if I got his or not - 1901 is not a good time for any information being in the paper. Doesn't mean there isn't any just don't be disappointed if you don't get any. Do you know for sure he died in Hounsfield? - You might get a death cert. Alice -----Original Message----- From: Mike Kennedy <kennedmr@siscom.net> To: NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, April 28, 2000 4:37 PM Subject: newspaper obit. online? or lookup by SKS > > >Greetings: > >Is there any site where I can access (on-line), the newspaper obituaries for the Hounsfield or Watertown area? > >OR >Would some kind soul lookup an obituary for Andrew Kennedy died Apr 5 1901. He supposedly died in Hounsfield, Jefferson County and was buried in Glenwood Memorial cemetery, Watertown. > >I am interested in finding the locations where his children lived, the married names of the daughters, grandchildren, and if town he was born in is mentioned. And parents if realy lucky. > >Thank you very much > >Mike Kennedy >Dayton Ohio >kennedmr@siscom.net > > >============================== >Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. >RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi >

Please visit the Hounsfield ALHN website and read about the Ira HALL family of Sulpher Springs . . . . . one of the best family history presentations I have seen on the web, brought to us by Kelly Hokkanen! http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~legends/hounsfield-alhn.html -- Mark Wentling Washington, D.C.

Greetings: Is there any site where I can access (on-line), the newspaper obituaries for the Hounsfield or Watertown area? OR Would some kind soul lookup an obituary for Andrew Kennedy died Apr 5 1901. He supposedly died in Hounsfield, Jefferson County and was buried in Glenwood Memorial cemetery, Watertown. I am interested in finding the locations where his children lived, the married names of the daughters, grandchildren, and if town he was born in is mentioned. And parents if realy lucky. Thank you very much Mike Kennedy Dayton Ohio kennedmr@siscom.net

This is an urgent call to all those lost lines out there. A project of updating THE SWARTWOUT CHRONICLES is is full gear. If you have them in your line and lost the link. Even better their lines left out of the Original Chronicles, please submit them for the Updated version. There is no author as we all take credit for each of our own lines. Come on folks, it won't cost a penny and you could help someone find their roots. Just send in you lines and you get all the credit for it. Also LABOR DAY WEEKEND IS REUNION TIME!!!!! And this year is a real biggy! It will be held in Geneva, New York. Why is it so important? As of the year 2002 the Swartwout family will have been in North America 350 years. A big head count t the reunion will guarntee us of a place in history, by the Swartwout name getting honourable mention in the Sentate and put into the minutes. We have a lot to lose by not showing up. Kathy Hoeldke kathyhoeldke@sympatico.ca

Hi Bernice -- There were no generally widespread epidemics in 1813 America. The most common local epidemics to afflict colonial and early American settlers were: Yellow fever, Smallpox, Cholera and Diphtheria This is based on disease/ epidemic outbreaks recorded in a number of sources on the www. The timing of 1813 in northern states, especially in counties near the present Canada-US border, does suggest the possibility of disease transmission associated with movement of military and volunteer forces involved in the War of 1812-1814. It is a fact recorded in several histories of this war that various diseases caused significant loss of life for some units and in some locales. Jefferson County was a major "marshaling area" for troops that fought the British and their allies in this war.... and 1813 was the year of the battle of Sackets Harbor. You might check out how Antwerp was involved with that War effort in 1813. Here are a few other suggestions that might help confirm the probability of some epidemic being the cause of death. To search for evidence of local epidemics, where there appear to be no records, check local cemetery records (transcriptions, on-line databases, etc) or church burial records (and online databases) for "clustered deaths" that take several members (especially children and the elderly - e.g. grandparents) in the same family within a short period of time. This could be over several months as a disease works its way progressively through a dispersed population of a small farming community. A nearby example of a locale epidemic is in this record from Herkimer County: "WILLIAM ALEXANDER, ... died January 3d, 1813, aged 37 years, of an epidemic fever, which prevailed pretty extensively in the county, and carried off a great many of the adult inhabitants." source: Chapter Thirteen, Benton's History of Herkimer County [found at <http://www.global2000.net/fortklock/Chapter13.htm>] // Gord Hines (in Regina SK Canada) BAnnMunsey@aol.com wrote: Subject: 1813 EPIDEMIC? Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 07:32:59 -0700 Resent-From: NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 10:32:46 EDT From: BAnnMunsey@aol.com To: NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com > In the winter of 1813, Samuel BAILEY, Olive (__)BAILEY, and at least three of > their children (Joshua, Alison, Lewis) all died within one month. Is there a > record of a "plague" that hit Jefferson County, NY at that time? Did it hit > a particular village or area of the county? One daughter, Nancy BAILEY > survived and married John KINGSBURY ca. 1827 and they lived in Antwerp. > Thank you for any information. > Bernice

Root searchers: apologies... that web address for "Root" info on my site is http://home.pacbell.net/mbare/MoodyAlliedSurnamesIndex.htm (ie remove the final "l") Regards, Margy Bare

Root and Sowle searchers: I have some very brief information on a Thomas Root, b. 1605 in England, child of John and Ami Russell Root, and his descendants for several generations. It is part of a genealogy that was given to my family and I don't have all of it. Therefore, when you look at my info and it says "refer to Root genealogy", I don't have that document. I have added what info I do have on a "Root" line to my web site so you can access it at: http://home.pacbell.net/mbare/MoodyAlliedSurnamesIndex.html. I know it isn't specifically what you're looking for, but it might be helpful. The geography is right, as my family started in Connecticut and ended up in New York the same time periods. Margy Bare researching Moody, Bare, Logus, Cottier, Uptegrove, and Tisher. Moody Surname Web Site can be found at http://home.pacbell.net/mbare Cottiers of the Isle of Man at http://home.pacbell.net/mbare/genealogy

We have also been searching for ROOT's who apparently lived in Jefferson (County?) NY, about 1829. Erastus ROOT was born about 1800; and, in about 1830, came to Hallowell (now Picton), Upper Canada (now Ontario, Canada) with his wife?, Mary and two sons, Hyland and Edson. In one census, Edson listed his p.o.b. as Jefferson, NY. Erastus was a stone mason These ROOT's have now spread around the north-east shore of Lake Ontario, and particularly around the Bay of Quinte. Erastus ROOT is my wife's ggg-grandfather. They have proved to be a difficult family to trace, so any help would be appreciated. I am also subscribed to the ROOT Surname List at ROOT-SURNAME-L@rootsweb.com Mike & Ruth Blamire Ameliasburg Prince Edward County Ontario, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: Jane T. <thaia@goodnet.com> To: <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 11:28 AM Subject: ROOT and SOULE/SOWLE(S)-1838 > I am new to this list; so I hope there are knowledgeable, helpful folks on it as on so many other lists. > > I am looking for any info on the families of ROOT and SOWLE(S) who may have lived in Jefferson Co., perhaps around Watertown, in 1838. There were at least three ROOT families in the 1840 Jefferson Co. census. And there was a Thomas SOWLE who lived in Clayton as of that census. > > William SOWLE(S)/SOULE, b. ca 1809 NY, married Cimantha/Samantha ROOT, also b. ca 1809, in either MA or NY. They likely had other children, but I know they had a female child b. in Watertown, Jefferson Co., NY on 11 May 1838. The problem is, there is a dispute about her name. She mainly went by Ellen M. in her adulthood, but also by Mercy E....looks like she switched her first and middle names at will. It is also possible her *real* name was something like Maranda or Macanda (writing illegible), which is the name of the 12-yr-old girl in the 1850 IL census for the county where we believe the family was living then. > > I know that there have been some really bad fires in Watertown since 1838, but are there any books or records that I might look at in the FHC for needed info? > > I am in desperation about Ellen/Mercy/Maranda, not to mention William and Samantha. This is a really strong stone wall. Help! > > Jane in AZ > thaia@goodnet.com > > > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com.

I am new to this list; so I hope there are knowledgeable, helpful folks on it as on so many other lists. I am looking for any info on the families of ROOT and SOWLE(S) who may have lived in Jefferson Co., perhaps around Watertown, in 1838. There were at least three ROOT families in the 1840 Jefferson Co. census. And there was a Thomas SOWLE who lived in Clayton as of that census. William SOWLE(S)/SOULE, b. ca 1809 NY, married Cimantha/Samantha ROOT, also b. ca 1809, in either MA or NY. They likely had other children, but I know they had a female child b. in Watertown, Jefferson Co., NY on 11 May 1838. The problem is, there is a dispute about her name. She mainly went by Ellen M. in her adulthood, but also by Mercy E....looks like she switched her first and middle names at will. It is also possible her *real* name was something like Maranda or Macanda (writing illegible), which is the name of the 12-yr-old girl in the 1850 IL census for the county where we believe the family was living then. I know that there have been some really bad fires in Watertown since 1838, but are there any books or records that I might look at in the FHC for needed info? I am in desperation about Ellen/Mercy/Maranda, not to mention William and Samantha. This is a really strong stone wall. Help! Jane in AZ thaia@goodnet.com