I have received conflicting information about whether there is or is not an index to the 1855 NY state census for Jefferson County. Who knows if there is (or is not) and if there is, where it can be found? I have looked on the Web page, but don't find any mention of an 1855 index. Thanks Anne Denny

I am new to the list and looking for any info about the parents/siblings of PRATT,Moses -b-18 May 1863 Watertown,Jefferson Co.,NY ; my great grand-father .

I am researching the surname BOWNE and allied families 1600 to present especially 13 original colonies. Jesse Martin Bowne b aprox 1859 Clayville Oneida Co NY worked in a cotton mill d aprox 1950 Joseph Bowne b 1827 Whitestown NY a farmer d ? Kenneth Jay Bowne b 1904 Holliston Massachusetts d 1995 especially Bownes of Elmira NY The following are some of the allied families BERG,BEACH,CARD,CAFFERS,CAFFERY, EMBREE,FIELD,LIPPINCOTT,LEGGETT,LAWRENCE ,MOTT,MARTIN,NEVIUS,NEWBOLD,OWEN,RAPALJE, SANDS,STORM,SMITH,SCHENCK,SOUTHGATE,STEDWELL,TITUS TRUAX,NIXON,SUTTON,STARR,TAPPAN,BAIRD,BEEBE,BURPEE DOYLE,KEESE,HUNT,MINTURN,PEARSALL,READING,SALTER, SCHUYLER,STILLSON,STOUT,SWEETLAND,THORNE,TOWNSEND LINCOLN, NO OTHER SPELLING EXCEPT BOWN NO BOWEN OR BROWN I am not neccessarily extending out allied names only Bowne spouses names but I will give you as much info I have Thanks Audrey Bowne Seattle gbowne@email.msn.com

Hi Listers, Earlier today I put through a quest for information about a Laura Vandewalker Adams. I now have a little more information: Laura was from Brownville, the daughter of Donald Vandewalker and Lena Bass. It is believed she may have died as a result of an automobile accident, but the year/date is unknown. Does anyone know anything about Laura? Thank you. Shirley 1936 Diary now on my site. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~twigs2000/

The following items are now available online at the Jefferson County ALHN: Hounsfield Portion -- Griswold Farm Springhouse (compliments of Shirley Farone) -- Muskellunge Schoolhouse No. 3 (compliments of Shirley Farone, again!) Orleans Portion -- 1914 LaFargeville G.A.R. parade (photo only, no names) Enjoy! Mark A. Wentling

Urgent: An acquaintance who used to live in Brownville is searching for a Laura Vandewalker. Here are the particulars: "My older brothers mother was a Vandewalker, Laura. She married my father, Leander Douglas Adams, in 1925-27 They had two sons, Kenneth and Frank. and were divorced in 1927+. We can not find her. We have the marriage lic. It is very important to my brother that we find out all we can about her." To make this clear: Maiden name - Laura Vandewalker Married name, 1st husband: Laura Adams >From the little knowledge that I have at the moment, I suspect the couple, when married, lived in the Brownville-Pamelia-Watertown area. Would welcome any suggestions you may have on helping my friend locate the information his brother so desperately needs. Contact: twigs@bright.net Thank you, Shirley 1936 Diary now on my site. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~twigs2000/

Ever wanted *ONE* place to go to find links to all those Jefferson County websites, mailing lists, and message boards??? Your time is here! Please visit the newly designed Jefferson County American Local History Network website where you'll find links to your old favorites, like GenWeb, Genconnect, GenForum, Rootsweb, and OneList . . . plus volunteer-created content. Check back often to find new features! If you see something missing let me know! Feel free to contribute too! http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/jefferson/ Thanks! Mark A. Wentling Coordinator, Jefferson County ALHN

Jeffer-listers: No, you didn't miss a letter, I got messed up in my numbering system and this is the next letter, effectively the fifth in the series: Henderson February 1st, 1856 Brother Asher, I have a leisure time and I thought I would write a few lines to let you know what is going on in Henderson. The folks is all well. Father and mother has gone down to Uncle Rufus Penny a visiting. Dal (Delia)she is a going to a ball tonight up to Corners. Eber and his wife has gone down to Harpers [ed. note-original transcriber wrote: Harpers Ferry] a visiting, may make it their home to Jarvis. Jarvis thinks he can skunk the world on a tune now he has traded off Fany and got a nate to Meanke[?] but davy I can pass him with mine without any trouble. Eb [Eber Penney] had a letter from you the other day - we was very glad to hear from you - I think you are in good business this winter Jack says you can’t be beat - davy I am agoing to tell you what of a winter we have had - it is darn hard and it has a snowed ever since the 29th of December. It has snowed and blowed every day since. The oarses has not been through on this road since Christmas - the snow is 4 feet on the level and just as ---- as you want it in places as you want it. They say the snow in Readfieald is 7 feet deep on the level. I suppose you would want to (k)now(what) I am adoing on this winter - I have not done much of any thing only break roads. Learned the other day Mr. Harvy Elnor and family has moved back here, they arrived here about 2 days ago - about --- in all. Uncle --efnie [possibly Zephnie] Penny is very sick. davy I will give you the market price - wheat has been worth 2.00 dollar but it is worth only 1.50 andhit--- top now - corn is worth --- centes - potatoes is worth 25 centes -- -- bushel. Oates is worth 40 centes the bushel. Now davy I want [torn] to have you write me a letter all you know. William Frasier has been sick but he is sum better now. davy tell dick Peffes [ed. note - with apologies, this name could be Dick Jeffers as the original transcriber read] to write me a letter - I want to know how many beeas[bears or bees, your choice- ed.] he has kill. Trunan Jeff-- is on the hint to worke for Mr. Fay. davy, Father wants you should tell uncle William that he would like a piece of venison and aske Willa how the honey git alonge. davy I wish you had been here to help me get the school wood. Tell George Penny[uncertain of last name] I had farm yes-days with a pare of coaltes. dal[Delia] says write her a letter. Tell Adelbert -- -- to [torn] and write Alvira a letter. I think I have [torn] my --- give my best wishes to all our enquiring friends. Write me a letter as soon as you get this. (to) Mr. Asher Penny (from)Mr. Charles Penny

Dear Jeffer-listers: The last of the Penney Dewey letters I sent to you several days ago was written in 1855. In the course of trying to sort and transcribe these letters I came across this letter, stepping backwards three years, written in the Wisconsin Territory to Smithsville Jefferson County NY. Asher Penney and Harriet Dewey have married and have had one child. This letter is written from one who has gone to Wisconsin and is writing of being there and suggesting perhaps a big draw for moving there, free land. This letter appears to be written from a sister to a sister so I am assuming it was written by a Dewey sister, perhaps another daughter of Barzilla Dewey Jr. as she referrs to Mother and Father here. At this writing we do not know who Monroe is, perhaps a Dewey nor do we know who Zophar is although he is mentioned in future letters. Crescent Prairie, May 16th, 1852 [Wisconsin] Dear Brother and Sister I embrace this opportunity to write to you and hope that you will excuse me for not writing to you before now. I suppose that you think that I have forgotten you. I think of you everyday and almost every hour and I would give a great deal to see you and your boy.if I had it. We are aliving in Georges house we hope that he will be here this summer and bring his family with him [family history suggests that this is George Calkins]. We hope that he will get him a farm paid for and we are inclined to think that he can for we are told that this land will be given to the settlers that are here. I wish that you and Asher was here now. I think you could get you a good farm. You don’t know how I want to have you come here. I hope that you will make up your mind to come with George comes out here. I wish that Father and Mother would come too, with them. I wish that I was there to have some of your pickels if you have got some as good as your was when I was out there last year. I have not eat any as good as they was since I came here and I have not ate any pork as good as you had when I was there. I have thought of it again many times since we came here. I was glad to hear that your boy was so healthy but sorry to hear that he was so worrisome. It must be quite a task for you to take care of him and do your work but I suppose that you think that he pays you for all of the trouble he is to you. I suppose that you think that he is about right. I have got a good brother that is Monroe, he is gone abraking now. I don’t know when he will be here again. He is good to me now I cannot write much more at this time for we expect Mr. Hutchinson will be along any moment. He is agoing to carry the letters this week. It is so far to the post office that we cannot go there every day. We have to send them when we can get a chance. I did not get the letter that you wrote to me until a little while ago. We are all well as commen at present and hope that we shall remain so all summer but I am afraid that Zophar will have the ague [?] and fl--d again. I am a [torn] ring home all of the time almost. I cannot write any more this for this time Zophar sends his best respects to Asher and all the rest of his friends. Monroe sends his best to all. Give my love to all who may inquire after me. Harriet, don’t neglect writing so long again. I will write as soon as I hear from you again. Please direct your letters to Waupaca Falls, Waupaca Co [county] This unsigned letter is written on one piece of paper and sealed with wax. It was addressed on the outside to Mr. Asher Penny, Smithville, Jeff CO NY and the return address simply says Waupaca May 1952

I do not know the origin, so I can not give credit where credit is due. It is worthy our peruse. jgilbert@hiwaay.net REMEMBERING INDEPENDENCE DAY Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence? Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before they died. Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army; another had two sons captured. Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary War. They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor. What kind of men were they? Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants, nine were farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well educated. But they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well that the penalty would be death if they were captured. Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags. Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward. Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton. At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson Jr, noted that the British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. He quietly urged General George Washington to open fire. The home was destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt. Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months. John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying. Their 13 children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid to waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished. A few weeks later he died from exhaustion and a broken heart. Norris and Livingston suffered similar fates. Such were the stories and sacrifices of the American Revolution. These were not wild-eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were soft-spoken men of means and education. They had security, but they valued liberty more. Standing tall, straight, and unwavering, they pledged: "For the support of this declaration, with firm reliance on the protection of the divine providence, we mutually pledge to each other, our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor. " They gave you and me a free and independent America. The history books never told you a lot about what happened in the Revolutionary War. We didn't fight just the British. We were British subjects at that time and we fought our own government! Some of us take these liberties so much for granted, but we shouldn't. So, take a few minutes while enjoying your 4th of July holiday and silently thank these patriots. It's not much to ask for the price they paid. Remember: Freedom is never free! Patriotism is NOT a sin, and the Fourth of July has more to it than beer, picnics, and baseball games.

To my knowledge there is not an index to the 1855 NY Sate census for Jefferson Co There are indexes for 1850, 1860 & 1870 Federal census and 1865 Jefferson Co State census Alice -----Original Message----- From: Anne Denny <ja-denny@email.msn.com> To: NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, July 02, 2000 6:12 PM Subject: 1855 NY State Census Index >I have received conflicting information about whether there is or is not an index to the 1855 NY state census for Jefferson County. Who knows if there is (or is not) and if there is, where it can be found? I have looked on the Web page, but don't find any mention of an 1855 index. >Thanks >Anne Denny > > >============================== >Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. >RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >

Hi folks, I'm new to this list and hope you can help me with my digging. My 4xgreat-grandfather was Peter Atwood. He married Laura Whitney in Chester, MA in 1814 and gave birth to my 3xgreat-grandmother that same year. Her name was Sophia Atwood/Daniels. We know that Sophia was half Native American. Since her mother, Laura's, lineage has been traced back to England, it is our belief that her Native American heritage comes through her father, Peter. I do not believe that "Peter Atwood" was his given name, but rather a name that he "borrowed". We all know that being Indian in that day was not a popular thing. He more than likely passed well as Irish.....or even French...who knows. In any event, I don't know how long he stayed married to Laura Whitney...or even what happened to her. He remarried to Mehitable Phebe Clark in 1825 and had another family. Apparently she also helped raised Sophia, because "Phebe" is listed as Sophia's mother on her death certificate. Here is all I know of Peter so far: We believe he was born in NY about 1791 and he died there sometime between 1850 and 1860. He was on the 1820 census in Russell, MA and then appears on the 1830 census in Middlefield living with his second wife and children he had by her. He was on the 1850 census of China, NY as being 59 years old, born NY, and was a carpenter. On the census was his son, Royal E., age 19, born MA, son Charles E., 14, born MA, a William Harrison, age 8, born MA (no clues as to who that might have been). Also on that census was his 2nd wife's father, Silas Clark, 84 years old, born in MA, a farmer. His second wife, Mehitable Phebe Clark, was on the 1860 census, (I think of Wyoming County) but he wasn't. His death record hasn't be found. The reason I'm contacting this list is because of an article I read from the Watertown Daily Times, no date (but obviously before 1929), entitled: Catfish Creek. This article describes an indian burial ground near "Catfish Creek" at Depauville. The writer of this article describes a time in the Fall of 1878 when he attended the "Depauville Hillside Academy" and boarded nearby with his uncle, William C. Atwood. During that time, there was an indian trapper who camped just near the Atwood property by the name of Peter Cole. The fact that there was an indian so comfortable to be that close to Atwood property was enough to make me go sleuthing. The fact that the indian's name was Peter just eggs me on even more. If any one out there has information on the indians of the area during the early to mid-1800's, I would very much appreciate hearing from you. There you have my story....and that was the abridged version! Bev Tiner (chozijoy@aol.com)

As I understand it (and on this topic my understanding isn't very solid) NYJEFFER-L-request@rootsweb.com is to get each letter as it's written mode, or to NYJEFFER-D-request@rootsweb.com for the Digest Mode, which gathers up a day's letters in a bunch and sends them to you all at once. Does this answer your question, or am I missing something here? Just write subscribe in the subject line. And PLEASE! when you subscribe, use your correct address (double check each character in it) and only subscribe under one address. For each incorrect address (and there are a number of them) I get three emails, one that goes to the list, one from rootsweb that says your letter ISN'T going to the list, and one from aol for who knows what. Occasionally (but only occasionally) I can unsubscribe the incorrect address. Meanwhile, my trash folder fills up at three times the normal rate! Shirley Farone wrote: > > Will someone tell me which of the addresses an interested person might > subscribe to this list? > > (I sometimes have no tolerance for the complexities of getting on and off > these lists.) > > Thanks. > > Shirley -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyjeffer/

Alice, Thank you for pointing out my oversight. Sometimes I think all I have in my head is air! :0) Charles PROSSER b: 16 Jan 1855 d: 24 Oct 1832 Syracuse NY Ida BARRY b: 13 Apr 1855 d: 2 Jan 1943 Syracuse NY William PROSSER b:20 Mar 1877 Philadelphia NY d: 16 Mar 1944 Syracuse NY Delia LARRABEE b:21 Mar 1877 Philadelphia NY d: 24 Mar 1943 Syracuse NY Thanks, Rikki On 13 Jun 2000, at 16:12, Alice Corbett wrote: > Do you have any dates on these people? > Alice > -----Original Message----- > From: Rikki Martin <rikki@a-znet.com> > To: NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 9:30 AM > Subject: PROSSER, LARRABEE > > > Hiya list, > I'm new to this list and I am sure hoping someone can help. > > I am looking for any information on my PROSSER or LARRABEE family. > > My g grandfather, William's social security application states that he > was born in Philadelphia NY, my grandfather said that his father > (William) was born in Tupper Lake. William's brother George's ss > application state's that he was born in Philadelphia PA and William's > wife, Delia LARRABEE's death certificate states that she was born in > Philadelphia PA also. > > I suspect that they were all born in Philadelphia NY. Can someone > help? > > William was the son of Charles PROSSER and Ida BARRY. I have a > picture of William and Delia posted to the web at the url listed > below. Maybe someone will recognize either them or maybe there is a > resemblance to someone else? > > If anyone has any information that might help in my search you have to > know, I would be forever grateful! > > Thanks so much, > > Rikki > http://prosserhome.homestead.com > PROSSER, BARRY, MCINTYRE, LARRABEE, BROWN, MARTIN, BLAKE > with some BOULIER/BOLLIER/BEAULIEU, YADDOW AND MYERS > tossed in for good measure. > > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > > > http://prosserhome.homestead.com PROSSER, BARRY, MCINTYRE, LARRABEE, BROWN, MARTIN, BLAKE with some BOULIER/BOLLIER/BEAULIEU, YADDOW AND MYERS tossed in for good measure.

Will someone tell me which of the addresses an interested person might subscribe to this list? (I sometimes have no tolerance for the complexities of getting on and off these lists.) Thanks. Shirley

Hiya list, I'm new to this list and I am sure hoping someone can help. I am looking for any information on my PROSSER or LARRABEE family. My g grandfather, William's social security application states that he was born in Philadelphia NY, my grandfather said that his father (William) was born in Tupper Lake. William's brother George's ss application state's that he was born in Philadelphia PA and William's wife, Delia LARRABEE's death certificate states that she was born in Philadelphia PA also. I suspect that they were all born in Philadelphia NY. Can someone help? William was the son of Charles PROSSER and Ida BARRY. I have a picture of William and Delia posted to the web at the url listed below. Maybe someone will recognize either them or maybe there is a resemblance to someone else? If anyone has any information that might help in my search you have to know, I would be forever grateful! Thanks so much, Rikki http://prosserhome.homestead.com PROSSER, BARRY, MCINTYRE, LARRABEE, BROWN, MARTIN, BLAKE with some BOULIER/BOLLIER/BEAULIEU, YADDOW AND MYERS tossed in for good measure.

A Mary Flansburgh, b. date unkown to me, was the eldest child of Peter Flansburgh of Jefferson Co. NY (b. Albany Co. 1800) by his first wife. After the death of his second wife in 1862, Peter moved to Kenosha WI where he eventually died. Don't know if this is the line you have in mind, Jackie, but Kenosha suggests that it may be. If you will email me with any further clues you may have about Mary and your Flansburghs, I will try to help you. Regards from a Jeff Co. Flansburgh descendant, Tony Sylvester Kitty Hawk, NC

Someone just asked me what "snowing blue lick" means. It was used in one of the letters from the 1860's by a Chaumont woman. Does it have anything to do with the salt bricks (licks) put out for cattle? While trying to find an answer to a question about plank bridges????, my husband found this site from Ontario, Canada which you might find interesting: http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/about/footpaths/plank.htm I hadn't realized macadamized roads pre-dated plank roads, either. Learn something every day, don't we? Thanks, Shirley

I haven't been able to connect these two people to anyone so far: Jason Davis, born in Jefferson County in 1815 (that's all I have!) married 1845 in Jefferson County to: Mary Flansburgh, born in Jefferson County about 1826. There was a Peter Flansburgh who had a daughter Mary but I don't know if this Mary is the same as mine. I was provided the names but no dates. They would move to Kenosha, WI in 1846 and have 6 children. Can anyone provide a link or offer an idea where to proceed? I'd like to be able to find someone who could check for certificates. I don't live anywhere near a Family History Center so seeing what they have is not an option for me. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!!! Thank you! Jackie ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

I have received information about a newspaper story regarding my family. Is there anyone out there who would be able to look thru the newspaper archives (or microfilm) and make a xerox copy of this story for me? The particulars, as I know them, follow: Published in the Watertown Daily Standard (predecessor of the Watertown Daily Times) Jan 15, 1907 Article title may be "Six Soldiers in One Family" This article was written following the death of Hiram B. CHURCHILL, and is about his father's (Archibald CHURCHILL) six sons. I would, of course, be delighted to reimburse you for any costs incurred in securing a copy of this article for me. Thank you so much Sharon Buckley texbuck@pdq.net 106 West Wildwinn Alvin, TX 77511