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    1. ELEAZER SWEET of Adams, NY
    2. Jerry Dafoe
    3. Looking for information on 1 Eleazer Sweet b: 1769 in East Greenwich, Providence Co, Rhode Island d: January 10, 1846 in Adam, Jefferson Co, New York .. +Olive Greene b: March 05, 1768 in Westerly , Kent Co, RI m: 1788 in Berlin, Rensselaer County, New York d: July 01, 1836 in Adams, Jefferson Co, NY ........ 2 Elizabeth Sweet ........ 2 Ira Sweet ........ 2 Polly Sweet ........ 2 Margaret Sweet ........ 2 Son (Stephen ? ) Sweet ........ 2 Son ( Benjamin?) Sweet ........ 2 Son (Henry?) Sweet ........ 2 Daughter Sweet

    07/19/2000 08:40:42
    1. #4 Hall Letters
    2. Kelly Hokkanen
    3. HALL LETTERS #4 Letter from Ira Hall, Sr., Stowell's Corners, Jefferson County, NY, to his son Ira Hall, Jr., Mexico, Audrain County, MO, December 17th, 1869. Stowels Corners, NY. Dec 17th 1869 Dear Son, Ira, I acknowledge that I have been too negligent in writing to you but your mother and some of the children have often written to you, on that account I have excused myself from writing. I would inform you that my health has been pretty good during the summer and fall past, and is very good for a person as old as I am. I am able to labor, do most any kind of work, such as threshing with threshing machine, [husking?] corn, pitching [m--?] [draning?] wood &c, your mothers health is not very good. Her health is quite delicate, takes cold very easy, which causes her to cough very hard, she's not now so bad as at some times, she is always at work when she is able to be about the house. The rest of the family are in usual health. Samuel & Winnie [sons] are not very rugged & tough, hence many ill times, which last but a short time, a day or two at a time. Sophia [unmarried daughter] is at home, this winter, not teaching school, taught some winters past. Ella [daughter] has left her native home, is married and lives near Adams Center. Several of us, were at her house yesterday, your sister Sophia and her cousin Jennie Briggs, your Uncle Samuel [Hall]'s daughter she was married last Monday evening and came out here the nex day, she and her husband, his name is Wm H. Briggs, lives in Bridgewater Onieda Co. NY. He appears like a smart well informed man, his father is wealthy, they say. They expect to go home tomorrow, they [--?] a short stay, came on a wedding [trip?]. Reuben [nephew] was with us at Ella's yesterday, he I expect will make you a visit soon. He thinks of starting for the west tomorrow, Dec. 18th. He thinks of visiting Edwin [son] also, so you may anticipate a visit from him if Providence permits, if he does not change his mind, which I think he will not, he does not get married yet. Jay Dimick's family are well I believe, Jay has been again elected as a member of our State Legislature to help make laws for the government of the people of the State of New York. Our neighbors are generally well. You wanted to know something about Esquire [Begley?] I think, you mentioned something about him in one of your letters. I saw him sometime past and he was smart as a whip, said he could do more work than any of the boys, I think. J.T. Reynolds [a Watertown lawyer], your old chum, has been arrested and taken to Albany on a charge of pension frauds, he waived examination, gave bail in the sum of $10,000 for his appearance at January term, U.S. Court in Albany. I think that he is rather slippery. There was a trial last week in the City of Watertown for a murder, by one man stabbing another in the [Woodruss?]. Judge Ingraham, from New York City presided by order of the Governor of our State. The Attorney General of the State of New York also attended, it was said that he was very smart. There appears to be great dissatisfaction in the verdict of the Jury. They brought in a verdict of Manslaughter in the third degree, he was sentenced to State Prison for four years. It was thought by most all, as I understood, that they would bring him in guilty of murder, an ignorant set of Jurors, the intelligent Jurors were rejected and thrown aside, it was a pretty clear case of murder. I am sorry that your health is so poor, I hope that you will recover your health that you may enjoy yourself with your companion [wife Helen] and two little boys [Claron and Raldon] -but it is getting late in the evening and I must close my letter. Give my respects to your wife. I should like to see you both in this country, come as soon as you can [--?]. Your mother sends her love to you & Helen and the two little boys. Yours with Parental regard, Ira Hall, Sr. ------------- Posted by Kelly Hokkanen More Hall info at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~khokkanen/hall/

    07/18/2000 05:36:14
    1. Poliomyelitis - a 1921 case in Watertown
    2. Shirley Farone
    3. I have an article here about a 23 year old man who, in late September of 1921, had polio -- only the third in Watertown during that year. The article remarked about September being rather late to have a new polio case. He was taken to an area hospital called Bide-A-Wee. Does anyone know where this hospital was located? I noted with interest the last two paragraphs of the article: "We know that the disease can be transmitted from persons to monkeys by means of excretions from the noses of those who have the disease. Whether there is any other mode of transmission we do not know. Using the information we now have, the best we can do is to refrain from spitting on the sidewalks and coughing and sneezing without using a handkerchief to cover the nose and mouth. "There is an anti-spitting law in this city but it can not be enforced until the public appreciates its importance. Those who have been arrested in the past for the violation of this ordinance have gotten off by demanding a jury trial." Do you remember how terrified we were of this disease in the mid-to-late 40's? I suppose it was the same in the 30's. My parents (farmers) held the theory that it had something to do with the beaches and water -- consequently, we never got to enjoy the beach. Shirley Diaries, old letters, poems, autographs, etc. - more coming See our webpage: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~twigs2000/

    07/18/2000 05:11:42
    1. The Dewey-Penney Letters #12
    2. Letter #12 is probably one of the most moving of the letters in this collection. It shows an bright and talented person in the youngest of the Dewey daughters, Emily Amelia. She is 20 years old at this writing, soon marries Orin Blanchard, moves to Waupaca WI eventually settling in Abbotsford WI. She was well schooled for the day making her letters easy to read and transcribe. In this letter, the other twin, Gene has died, but he lived longer than the first who apparently died at birth. I am told this poem is on the gravestone of this child in Sheridan Cemetary in Waupaca WI but I can not confirm that. Rodman, June 14th, 1857 Ever Dear Brother & Sister: It is now Sunday and I have got the work done up after dinner. I thought I would write to you. I went home a fortnight ago last Friday. Father (Barzilla Dewey, Jr.) had got home. He had been home almost two weeks. Harrys folks are well as could be expected. They have got an infant daughter. It is almost four weeks old. I did not stay quite four hours. I have been here 10 weeks, it seems a long stay but I like working here better than I expected. Harriet, I wish I could see you if not but a little while. If I had wings like a dove I would fly to that Western clime. Father has taken Bens farm but they have not moved on it nor wont til Fall if then. Loiraette [Lauriette Dewey Greenly] is living with Uncle Chester [Dr. Chester Dewey] this summer. Orsamus [Greenly, her husband] has bought a farm up in Worth I believe but they are not agoing to house keeping until Fall for they have not got a house on their place. He is agoing to build this Fall. I do not know how long I shall work here. I milked six cows last night. I milked nine (when) the hired man was gone. I wish you could be here to tea tonight for it is so pleasant today. I do not know when I shall go home again. I suppose that ‘Deal’ is married and gone west(Adelia Penney, sister to Asher). She wrote to me and tells me where to direct my letters but I could not make out the town. Will you please write me if you know? Write about Monroe(John Monroe Dewey an adventurer, a letter from him later from CA), whether he has gone to Kansas or not and where is Clinton? Is he acoming home this Fall or not? Are you or what are you going to do; Harriet I will write some poetry for you: The Curl of Genes Hair I have a little treasure, no more beautiful to me than aught of gold or silver or brighest gems I see Tis not a costly jewel in a casket rich and fine nor yet a Thing of value to other hearts than mine. And still I deem it priceless more precious far than gold more beautiful and lovely than earthly gems all Told ‘Tis not in iron coffers my treasures safe I keep and though I price it highly I often o’er it weep In a closely folded paper and laid away with care - Tis a little sunny singlet a curl of Genes hair. With beauty once it shaded a fair and lovely brow; and though long months have wasted methinks I see it now. 4 How often my fingers pressed it, And twinned it o’er and o’er, All met with tears of anguish; Such tears can flow no more - For the angels came and called him to live with them above While my heart was all o’er flowing with a mothers earliest love. 5 Then, O how sad and lonely Was every thing to me; His playthings all were gathered For those I could not see; We put away his cradle, With his little wooden chair; And my heart like them sorrows For hope had withered there 6 In the dark cold grave we laid him Where no willows o’er him bow And of him this precious relic T’s all thats left me now. It is strange that I should love it And guard it well with care This little glossy ringlet This curl of Genes hair. Harriet I wish you would write to me how much it would cost to have Genes miniature drawn off and where it is, and where B Penny is and sis. And what they are all adoing, about there. I have got me a new dress and waist. I will send you a small piece of my dress. I have not got it done yet. I am making it plain on the shoulders and a belt in it. The sleeves are straight, gathered at the top and a broad hem, that is the fashion here. Now write as much as I have but don’t know whither you can read it or not. I do not think of any(thing) important more to write. I had a letter from Clint [younger brother Clinton Dewey] and one from Mary awhile ago. I have answered Marys and will Clints as soon as I get some paper. If you see Diantha tell her to write to me and I will answer, my love to her and hers. Kiss the children for me. My love to all inquiring friends and enough to yourself. I must close my epistle with love and good wishes for it is most 1/2 past 2 PM. Write as soon as you get this, direct, Rodman. >From your affectionate sister, E. Amelia Dewey to A & H Penny (PS) Harriet I am very chois[torn] of that little curl of Genes hair you sent me. Good Afternoon.

    07/17/2000 09:47:03
    1. The Dewey-Penney Letters #11
    2. This letter is written was written 16 months after Letter #10 (which was written in 1856 and not 1956 as I mistakenly wrote) Harriet has had twins and one has died. This frontier family struggles on as the relatives in Jefferson County write letters encouraging them to give it up and return to NY. But they hang in there (or I wouldn't be here!) Again they refer to Asher by what must have been his nickname, Davy. Henderson NY June 7th, 1857 Dear Brother: I set myself down to let you know how we get along which is very well but it is just hard times here. We have had a very wet spring but grass and spring grain looks very well. But I tell you Davy grain is up. Wheat is worth $2.00 per bushel, potatoes is worth $1.00 per and darn scarce at that. Corn is worth one dollar and you can’t find one bushel in this town for that and butter is from 20 cents to 22. We milk six cows this summer. I have sold 22 bushel of Barley and planted 3 acres of corn at home and 5 acres on Mr. Green(s). It is just coming up now. The folks are well in our neighborhood. Davy you had better come and buy the Button farm. You can get it for 40 dollars per acre. Jack[Jock] he has planted ten acres of corn. And Davy if you think you will come back next Fall write and let me know. Jack Minks[Mulkies?] mare has a colt. It is neat too you had better believe. Ebers family is all well. He is to work for Mr. Grant by the month. Father says ask Willa what the horse is worth and if you and Uncle William come down he will seed and get tilled. My love to all, C. Penney [Charles Penney, brother to Asher] Dear and much respected Brother and Sister - Agreeable to Charles request I will write a few lines to you, as he has written all the news there is nothing in particular for me to write. We are well as usual. We are enjoying very good degree of health. The neighbors are all well. You write you think you will come back this Fall. I presume you feel lonely and sad and wish yourself back in your native land. But I do not think you are forgotten by your fathers family or friends for there is hardly a day passes but I hear your name mentioned. Make yourself as contented as you can till you can sell. You mourn the loss of your little one but it is at rest. Why should you wish it back again, it is freed from a world of trouble. Mother says she would like to see you and have you come back to the home of your childhood. As it is getting late I will draw my letter to a close by bidding you goodnight. We all send our love to you and wish you was here but wait patient for your return, no more at present. From your affectionate sister, E. A. Penney [Elizabeth, Charles wife]

    07/17/2000 09:22:43
    1. The Dewey-Penney Letters #10
    2. With apologies, it has been 10 days since I have posted a letter of this series but it has been with good reason. The following letter had never been transcribed before because it was very faded, written on blue paper. Even with our bright mid-day light and a magnifying reader, along with strong half-eyes, it has been a difficult assignment, giving me a whole new deep and humble appreciation for those volunteers among us who transcribe the census sheets from early days. I may have at least ten hours or more in the following letter. This letter was written to Harriet (Dewey) Penney in Waupaca Wisconsin from her mother, Harriet (McKee) Dewey in Adams, Jefferson County NY. In it she is "being a mother", scolding and hopefully encouraging her daughter out there on the frontier with three children in the house, two more (twins) on the way and a house full of men, including the Father Dewey, who are hacking a new community out of the wilderness. The daughter is in a funk and it is no wonder considering her circumstances. Mother Harriet was apparently unschooled for her spelling is terrible as well as her grammar making the faded portions of the letter even more difficult to read. Like many of these letters, there is no capitalization or punctuation except at random and unexplained places - all the thoughts run together in a continuous string. I have converted her spelling to the correct words where necessary and left in the others where it is understandable for the flavor of the letter. Sadly, this may be the last letter she writes to her daughter, at least it is the last letter known to have been written by her for she dies a tragic death described in a future letter. Adams, Feb. 23rd, 1956 Much Loved Children, Asher and Harriet I take my opportunity to write a few line to you as I received your lines a few days ago. My health is very good at present although I suffer a great deal with the cold. It seems to me that I never experienced so cold a winter in my life. You wanted me to write all of the news I know commence. Well the girls are ahere with me now. Emily is agoing to school this winter. Lauriette is agoing to (Elita or Elvita?) Gleasons to work soon. It has been a long and lonesome winter to us. I was sorry to hear that you was discontented for I expected to take a great deal of comfort with you and the rest for my children and my husband. I think that you had better be contented there for I expect that we even (will) have a home there sometime or other. I think that I should contented most anywhere that I could have a home that I could call my own. The snow is about 3 feet deep. We have had some good [she wrote 'slaying' but I think she meant sleighing - ed.] but it is very best now. We can’t see the fence post at the way. There has been three or 4 days that we have not been out doors this winter Harrys folks here all are well now. They have been having a good time this winter. George has done our chores - cut our wood. I should like to see you and the children (as) usual. Shake the gizzard out of them (for me). You should see me and the girls by looking at our miniatures but we can’t look at you. I have two miniatures too and they are of and Mo - a - i and Lauriette. We have not heard from Ashers folks since before Christmas. They wrote that they was a coming out with Charles and Ebber (Ashers brothers) and wanted me to be aready to go home with them but we have not seent anything of them. Asher, one of Hiram Washburns colts died the other day with the information on the lungs. [that’s what she wrote - ed] Tell Clint that Mrs. Walton was buried a week a week ago today. I suppose that you are discouraged because Father and Clint has been there so much but I hope that you will take _at them until I get where (they) are or they. I am so wish I could see them, too, Davy. The girls have got a___ built. They are having a great time about Leap Year. Emily talks up Whinsy the school master aside she takes when ....Diantha that --tte said Osamus Greenly up to Chesters last fall thought she was a nice girl but I guess Lauriette will (last?) this out She is agoing to take him out (ar??) when the spells (they?) broke out if Clint and Teri and Lakin (...t?) (r?) the girl would be after them the is (a????) (inh??s?) left be the name of Smith I think Lauriette (?) (?) in their you still thought your Father (?) from one house to the other but I can’t do that so have not been out anywhere this winter as has my part I am up to almost everything (?) now days. You wrote that Asher wishes he was here to _ visit. I wish he was although George has built the most of the winter. We have not heard or seen any thing from your father Pennys folks but once since you went out there. Lauriette saw Delia and Mer-ice(?) down to the celebration to the village last summer. They was all well, the neighbors are all well here. Ugina(?) is fat as ever. Fast comes here often and smith and some time Len but enough at this, I must draw this letter to a close. Excuse all mistakes and bad righting now Asher and Harriet. Write as soon as you get this. Give my love to Father and all the rest. So Good bye for this time from your good old Mother to her Children Harriet and Asher in haste, bye (written by Harriet (Mckee) Dewey to her daughter, Harriet and son-in-law Asher Penney) [This letter is in very poor shape and resisted transcribing - ed] [with my apologies]

    07/17/2000 09:10:53
    1. Re: The Dewey-Penney Letters #9
    2. Yes, that's what I think. It makes sense with the letter, too. - Linda E.

    07/17/2000 03:38:26
    1. wills posted
    2. W. David Samuelsen
    3. 3 wills at http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/JeffersonWill Fidelia A. Carley Rufus Blackstone Alvin Dodge along with wills posted previously either by others or by SAMPUBCO at request of SAMPUBCO customers. W. David Samuelsen http://www.sampubco.com/

    07/16/2000 09:49:30
    1. Ingalls/Rogers
    2. J.M. (Jay) Ingalls
    3. Jean, You need to get a copy of Burleigh's 1903 "Ingalls Genealogy". It is available through inter-library loan, or I can give you a source to buy it. B172, page 30, lists data for John Ingalls. His widow, Ann Dennis, m. 2nd, 17 Sep 1754, John Rogers. Their children included Elisha Rogers. Burleigh includes references to 11 Rogers. I do not have time to review them. Jay Subject: Ingalls/Rogers -any connection? Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 16:50:07 -0400 From: Jean Oxley <djoxley@rbnet.com> To: NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com My great grandfather was named Minot Ingalls ROGERS. He was born at or near Point Salubrious in 1829. According to a booklet written by my great uncle Robert H. Rogers, Minot Ingalls ROGERS was named after Minot INGALLS, "a farmer and barn builder at Fox Creek". I have found a few discrepancies in this booklet so he may not have been correct. My question is this: Does any one know of a family tie between the ROGERS and INGALLS or can anyone suggest why my ggrandfather would be named after Minot INGALLS? I hope you all can help with this. Thanks very much. Jean R. Oxley ______________________________ Subject: ROGERS question I have come upon another problem and wonder if some of you might be able to help. My ggg-grand father, Elisha ROGERS, had four children; Riley ROGERS b. 1788, Namah? ROGERS b. 1790, Ralph ROGERS b. 1792 and George ROGERS b. 1794. According to Robert H. ROGERS( my great uncle) these four children where named: Ralph, Moses, George and Riley. I have no mention of Moses ROGERS, son of ELisha ROGERS. Does anyone know if this Moses ROGERS did indeed exist and when he was born. I also have nothing other than the name, Namah ROGERS. Has anyone any record of him or her? Namah ROGERS is listed as born in Springfield Vermont. Nothing more is noted. Could Namah be Moses? Help! Jean R. Oxley ================ ================

    07/14/2000 08:06:45
    1. WHEELER and BLAIR families
    2. List...... I have a Lydia A. WHEELER, b. 23 Feb 1830, in Malone, Jefferson Co., NY. I'm looking for information on her and her parents. I don't know her father's first name. Her mother's name was Thankful Scott BLAIR. Any assistance is appreciated. Ralph Clouse, Sacramento

    07/13/2000 08:40:19
    1. Re: Poliomyelitis - a 1921 case in Watertown
    2. Alice Corbett
    3. I wrote that wrong We did a lot of things to prevent illness that aren't done today Alice -----Original Message----- From: Alice Corbett <corbi@a-znet.com> To: NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 7:44 PM Subject: Re: Poliomyelitis - a 1921 case in Watertown >The Bide -A- Wee was on outer Bradley St >That polo was before the shots were developed - I remember some kids I knew >had it. >We didn't do a lot of things to prevent getting illness that are done now. >Alice >-----Original Message----- >From: Shirley Farone <twigs@bright.net> >To: NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 7:13 PM >Subject: Poliomyelitis - a 1921 case in Watertown > > >>I have an article here about a 23 year old man who, in late September of >>1921, had polio -- only the third in Watertown during that year. The >>article remarked about September being rather late to have a new polio >>case. He was taken to an area hospital called Bide-A-Wee. Does anyone >>know where this hospital was located? >> >>I noted with interest the last two paragraphs of the article: >> >>"We know that the disease can be transmitted from persons to monkeys by >>means of excretions from the noses of those who have the disease. Whether >>there is any other mode of transmission we do not know. Using the >>information we now have, the best we can do is to refrain from spitting on >>the sidewalks and coughing and sneezing without using a handkerchief to >>cover the nose and mouth. >> >>"There is an anti-spitting law in this city but it can not be enforced >>until the public appreciates its importance. Those who have been arrested >>in the past for the violation of this ordinance have gotten off by >>demanding a jury trial." >> >> >>Do you remember how terrified we were of this disease in the mid-to-late >>40's? I suppose it was the same in the 30's. My parents (farmers) held >>the theory that it had something to do with the beaches and water -- >>consequently, we never got to enjoy the beach. >> >>Shirley >> >> >> Diaries, old letters, poems, autographs, etc. - more coming >>See our webpage: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~twigs2000/ >> >> >>============================== >>Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. >>http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >>Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. >> > > >============================== >Ancestry.com now has more than 200,000 subscribers! To celebrate, >access to ALL of Ancestry.com will be free from July 18 to July 31! >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/freepromo.asp?sourcecode=A11AM >

    07/13/2000 06:51:15
    1. Re: Poliomyelitis - a 1921 case in Watertown
    2. Alice Corbett
    3. The Bide -A- Wee was on outer Bradley St That polo was before the shots were developed - I remember some kids I knew had it. We didn't do a lot of things to prevent getting illness that are done now. Alice -----Original Message----- From: Shirley Farone <twigs@bright.net> To: NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 7:13 PM Subject: Poliomyelitis - a 1921 case in Watertown >I have an article here about a 23 year old man who, in late September of >1921, had polio -- only the third in Watertown during that year. The >article remarked about September being rather late to have a new polio >case. He was taken to an area hospital called Bide-A-Wee. Does anyone >know where this hospital was located? > >I noted with interest the last two paragraphs of the article: > >"We know that the disease can be transmitted from persons to monkeys by >means of excretions from the noses of those who have the disease. Whether >there is any other mode of transmission we do not know. Using the >information we now have, the best we can do is to refrain from spitting on >the sidewalks and coughing and sneezing without using a handkerchief to >cover the nose and mouth. > >"There is an anti-spitting law in this city but it can not be enforced >until the public appreciates its importance. Those who have been arrested >in the past for the violation of this ordinance have gotten off by >demanding a jury trial." > > >Do you remember how terrified we were of this disease in the mid-to-late >40's? I suppose it was the same in the 30's. My parents (farmers) held >the theory that it had something to do with the beaches and water -- >consequently, we never got to enjoy the beach. > >Shirley > > > Diaries, old letters, poems, autographs, etc. - more coming >See our webpage: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~twigs2000/ > > >============================== >Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. >

    07/13/2000 06:44:47
    1. Henderson and Aspinwall Corners
    2. Robert Ginn
    3. Greetings Jefferson Co. List, Recently I began reviewing data received long ago from a relative and found that Henderson County was home to at least nine of my mother's direct ASPINWALL ancestors. I've been "lurking" in this list for a month or two and have seen none of them mentioned, so here they are. I would appreciate knowing if anyone has more info. On 18 Feb 1813, Cyrus BATES married Lydia HARRINGTON in Henderson. Cyrus' father, Oliver BATES, died in Henderson in 1828. Perhaps he had followed Cyrus to Henderson, or maybe Cyrus accompanied his father to Henderson before 1813. I have nothing on Cyrus' mother, Rebecca (HART) BATES, ever having been in Henderson. About 1817-18, Salmon ASPINWALL and his wife, Mary (MONTAGUE) ASPINWALL, moved their family, including a 7-year-old son, Delatus Miles ASPINWALL, from Rupert, VT, to Henderson. Mary's parents, Adonijah and Mary (SIMONDS) MONTAGUE, probably accompanied them as they died in Henderson in 1828 and 1831, respectively. Salmon and Mary ASPINWALL lived out their lives there, dying in Henderson within four days of each other in 1856. On 5 Jan 1819, a daughter, Lovina Arminda BATES, was born to Cyrus and Lydia (HARRINGTON) BATES in Henderson. Cyrus BATES died about 25 Sep 1839 in Henderson and is buried in Carpenter Cemetery. Lydia remarried in Henderson in 1841, remarried again, date and location unknown, and eventually died in Idaho in 1874. On 15 Jan 1840, Delatus Miles ASPINWALL and Lovina Arminda BATES were married in Henderson, and three children were born to them there. They left for Farmington, Wisconsin, in 1846, where more children were born, including my grandfather. Thus I have nine ancestors, with a possible tenth in Rebecca (HART) BATES, having lived in Henderson. Perhaps (or even likely) there are more. Maps of the area show a site called Aspinwall Corners located a few miles west of Henderson. Perhaps other Aspinwall's were there before Salmon moved to town, or maybe Salmon settled there and the area was named for him. Much is yet to be learned. Thanks for bearing with me. Any information will be appreciated. Robert Ginn Sitka, Alaska

    07/13/2000 05:56:03
    1. Ingalls/Cline
    2. The Howard, Cline, Wilcox, and Ingalls families seem all related. Sally Howard married Henry Ingalls. She later married Henry Cline. The question is whether Henry Cline had two or three wives. Elvira Wilcox, son of William S. Wilcox,who was the son of William Sr., married Minot Ingalls and had Minot Jr. My guess is that Elvira went by a nickname or middle name of Sally and who would blame her for that. Minot Wilcox, son of Oliver and brother to William Wilcox Sr., was probably named after Minot Ingalls. Sebere/Sebra Howard was an early settler of Lyme. I suspect the two Sebra Wilcoxes were named after him. It is said John Howard married Eunice Wilcox. Minot W. Ingalls also had Catherine and Marie Ingalls who are mentioned in Minot Wilcox's will. Who was Eunice Wilcox's father? Does anyone have the descendants of Fred, Catherine, Marie Ingalls? I am interested in the Wilcox descendants of the Lyme Wilcox family. Sharon

    07/13/2000 04:14:04
    1. ROGERS question
    2. Jean Oxley
    3. I have come upon another problem and wonder if some of you might be able to help. My ggg-grand father, Elisha ROGERS, had four children; Riley ROGERS b. 1788, Namah? ROGERS b. 1790, Ralph ROGERS b. 1792 and George ROGERS b. 1794. According to Robert H. ROGERS( my great uncle) these four children where named: Ralph, Moses, George and Riley. I have no mention of Moses ROGERS, son of ELisha ROGERS. Does anyone know if this Moses ROGERS did indeed exist and when he was born. I also have nothing other than the name, Namah ROGERS. Has anyone any record of him or her? Namah ROGERS is listed as born in Springfield Vermont. Nothing more is noted. Could Namah be Moses? Help! Jean R. Oxley

    07/13/2000 03:06:21
    1. Ingalls/Rogers -any connection?
    2. Jean Oxley
    3. My great grandfather was named Minot Ingalls ROGERS. He was born at or near Point Salubrious in 1829. According to a booklet written by my great uncle Robert H. Rogers, Minot Ingalls ROGERS was named after Minot INGALLS, "a farmer and barn builder at Fox Creek". I have found a few discrepancies in this booklet so he may not have been correct. My question is this: Does any one know of a family tie between the ROGERS and INGALLS or can anyone suggest why my ggrandfather would be named after Minot INGALLS? I hope you all can help with this. Thanks very much. Jean R. Oxley

    07/13/2000 02:50:07
    1. DEROUIN
    2. carol
    3. Hi My name is Carol Derouin Freeman, and I'm new to the list, in search of DEROUIN families. My brick wall is now a building with 27 floors. The Derouin's originally from Hull, Canada. I have no idea where to begin, are there any good places on the internet to start? Also a list of addresses to write for records? Sorry to be so vague, have to start somewhere though. Thanks Much Carol

    07/13/2000 07:07:53
    1. Re: Jefferson County/INGALLS
    2. J.M. (Jay) Ingalls
    3. SOBPatchet@aol.com, What is your connection to Minot? Are you a descendant? This is not my line, but I do collect Ingalls info for all Ingalls in the USA and Canada. I also have a copy of Burleigh's 1903 "Ingalls Genealogy", which is the best single source on the Ingalls before 1903. My data indicates that the wife of the first Minot was named Sally. Does your data below refer to Minot M. Ingalls as the second Minot, and his son as Minot W., who lived with his mother at 1728 Washington street in Toledo Ohio per the 1889 - 1890 city directory? Or was the first one Minot M.? See the info below: Family Group Sheet-from J.M. Ingalls ============================================================ Husband: Minot Ingalls (1) [NOTE: NOT LISTED IN BURLEIGH] ============================================================ Born: Abt 1783 at: Died: at: , , NY Married: Abt 1826 Place: ============================================================ Wife: Sally (1) ============================================================ Born: Abt 1806 at: ============================================================ Husband's Notes ============================================================ Sources:Book in NEGHS library, 13 Mar 1992, on history of Jefferson County NY. Lyme was created in 1818, included Clayton west of Penot's Square, Lyme, Cape Vincent, and adjacent islands. It was named by Eber Kelsey, originally of Lyme CT. Minot Ingalls was a supervisor in 1836. First settlement there was in 1801. What is now Chaumont was settled in 1803. The town of LeRay was named after James D. LeRay deChaumont, distinguished land holder. LeRay embraced all of Brownsville east of Penet's Square, to Black River. The town of LeRay was erected in 1806, and LeRay moved there in 1808 with his family. Info from pages 190-200 approx. There was also a Solomon Ingalls in Clayton, but do not recall if I saw it in this book or Ann found it in another book. J.M.I. We have a copy of an old photo from "Old Houses of the North Country" in the Watertown NY library., It says the John Laird House on Watertown-Cape Vincent Road was built by John Laird, a Scotchman. Laird bought the land from Minot and Sally Ingalls on July 2, 1831. Later he bought adjacent parcels from Henry Ainsworth, Vincent LeRay, and James LeRay (Marquis de St. Paul. Some of the adjoining land was owned at some time by Count Pierre Francois Real, Napoleon's prefect of police. The house is about 2 miles from Cape Vincent and is easily accessible from Lake Ontario and the St. Lawrence River. The house is built of native limestone, and was probably constructed in the early 1830's. Minot Ingalls is listed in the 1830 census for Jefferson County, NY, Page 261, Lyme Twp, Federal Population Schedule, (Ancestry?)Index # NY55923275, per Ancestry.com on 13 July 2000. We need to look at the actual census for his age, etc. J.M. Ingalls. Minot Ingalls, age 10 (b. 1840), and his sister? Catherine age 14 were living with Henry Cline, age 46, and Sally Cline, age 47, and their children, Francis, Mary, Milton S., Adelaide, and George in Lyme, Jefferson County, NY 1850 census, p. 374, Dwelling No. 385, Family No. 382. Could this be Minot's children? Could Sally Cline be Minot's daughter. Henry Cline gave his occupation as farmer, with real estate value of $9,788, b. NY. Catherine Ingalls, age 15 (b. 1835) lived with the Volney Ayres family in Lyme per p. 367, Dwelling No. 275, Family No. 275 of the 1850 census. Her birth place is given as NY. Peter Ingalls, age 50 (b. 1800, could be brother of James Ingalls?) was a farmer with real estate value of $1000, living in Brownville, Jefferson County, NY, per p. 183, Dwelling 113, Family 114 of the 1850 census. He said he was born in NH, and his wife Mary age 51 and daughter Helen age 13 were born in NY. Renselar Spies, age 16, born in NY, also lived with them. John Ingalls, age 62, b. NH, farmer, real estate value of $1400, lived in Cape Vincent, Jefferson County, NY, per the 1850 census. His wife Cynthia, age 64, b. NH, and son Jerome age 16, b. NY, were also there per p. 415, Dwelling No. 453, Family No. 455 of the 1850 census. Henry Ingalls, age 64, farmer, b. NH, no real estate value listed, lived in Clayton, Jefferson County, Ny per the 1850 census, with: Prudence age 67 b. MA; James Henry age 38 b. NH, laborer; Huldah age 30 b. NY; Cornelia E., age 27, b. NY; Gannis (F) age 34, b. VT; A.E. Violet (F) age 11, b. OH; and her brother ? Albert, age 6 , b. OH. All on p. 452, in Dwelling No. 434, and Family No. 434. The Rev. Solomon Ingalls was a trustee of the Baptist Church of Pillar Point in 1838 per a book in the NEGHS Library. Solomon Ingalls, age 70, b. MA, and Catherine Ingalls, age 64, b. MA, lived with Henry W. Ingalls age 43, b. MA, and Cynthia Ingalls, age 36, b. NY, per the 1850 census for Brownville, Jefferson County, NY, p. 185, Dwelling No. 138, Family No. 139. Also there were: Arnold B., age 12, b. NY; Melville E., age 8, b. NY; Frances A., age 7 (F), b. NY; and Cyrus, age 3, b. NY. Peter Ingalls was the first master of the Hannah, and ship building started in Cape Vincent in 1816 per another source. John W. Ingalls was supervisor of Clayton 1859-1861. Minot W Ingalls was a clerk for M I Wilcox C & S Co, in Toledo Ohio, and boarded at 1728 Washington, per the 1889 - 1890 city directory. Vie Ingalls (widow of Minot M) apparently owned the home at 1728 Washington, Toledo, Ohio, where Minot W. boarded per the same 1889 - 1890 city directory. The info in last two paragraphs is from ancestry.com. J.M. Ingalls, 13 July 2000. ============================================================ Wife's Notes ============================================================ See notes for husband Minot. J.M. Ingalls, 13 July 2000. Last Modified: 13 Jul 2000 ============================================================ Source Citations ============================================================ 1. J.M. & Charlene (Petrie) Ingalls, 5900 Cheswood Ct. Orlando FL 32817-3289 407-679-1305 jay_ingalls@pipeline.com ================== SOBPatchet@aol.com wrote: > > I was wondering if you have any conncection here. I noticed the two > Ingalls buried in Jeffeson County. Was common to send home bodies for burial > to the place where people felt were their original family homesteads. I know > there is an Ingalls home a few houses from the Wilcox homestead. Strange > name. There was a Doctor Minot buried in Sackets harbor and one of the other > Wilcox descendants of William was named Minot Wilcox. Point Peninsula is > straight across Three Mile Bay from Sackets harbor and Henderson. William > Wilcox was in Pt. Peninsula at the close of the War of 1812, so one would > suspect the Ingalls line was there early. > > Descendants of Minot Ingalls > > 1 Minot Ingalls > > . +Elvira Wilcox b: Aft. 1837 Father: William Stewart > Wilcox Father: William Stewart Wilcox > Father: William Stewart Wilcox Mother: > Mary Fisher > 2 Minot Ingalls, Jr b: Aft. 1857 d: in Toledo, Ohio > > .... +Florence Calkins d: in Toledo, Ohio > > ... 3 Kathryn Ingalls > > ....... +Edward Shanks d: 1973 > Occupation: Advertising > ... 3 Marie Ingalls > > 2 Frederick Ingalls b: Aft. 1858 > > .... +Molly Fleck >

    07/12/2000 11:03:17
    1. Ingalls,Snow,Goodrich,Forysyth, Flint,Austin,Lamberton,Himebauch,Heimbach,Stevenson,Miller.
    2. J.M. (Jay) Ingalls
    3. Diana and all, The Family Group sheet below provides the spouses of the children of James Ingalls and his wife, Malinda Snow. If anyone can provide more information on the ancestors of James and Malinda, or their descendants, it will be appreciated. We have quite a lot of info already. Jay ================= Family Group Sheet-from J.M. Ingalls ============================================================ Husband: James Ingalls ============================================================ Born: 9 Jan 1802 at: <Exeter Twp, Otsego County, NY> Died: 13 Jan 1862 at: Burton Twp, Genesee, MI Buried: at: Evergreen Cem., Burton Twp, Genesee, MI Married Malinda Snow, Henderson, Jefferson County, NY, 1830 Father: Benjamin Ingalls {B539} (1771- abt 1830) Mother: Margery (Marjorie) Cass (1772-Abt 1810) ============================================================ Wife: Malinda Snow ============================================================ Born: 4 Apr 1809 at: Died: 17 Feb 1871 at: Buried: at: Evergreen Cem., Burton Twp, Genesee, MI Father: William Snow ( - ) Mother: Sarah ( - ) ============================================================ Children ============================================================ 1 F Lydia Ingalls Born: 11 Jan 1831 at: , , NY Spouse: MILO GOODRICH (1825- ) Marr. Date: 20 Mar 1853, Flint, Genesee, Mi - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2 M Horace Ingalls Born: 28 Jul 1832 at: , , NY Died: 17 Oct 1862 at: Buried: at: Evergreen Cem., Burton Twp, Genesee, MI Spouse: Ann FORSYTH ( - ) Marr. Date: 26 Oct 1858, Genesee, Genesee, MI - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 3 M Benjamin Ingalls Born: 9 Mar 1834 at: , , NY Died: Dec 1917 at: Seattle, WA Spouse: Betsy Snow ( - ) Marr. Date: 1 Jan 1856, CLAYTON TWP., Genesee, MI - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 4 M James Ingalls Born: 19 Oct 1835 at: , , NY Died: 3 Jul 1914 at: Buried: at: Evergreen Cem., Burton Twp, Genesee, MI Spouse: MARCIA Flint ( - ) Marr. Date: 29 Jun 1860, , Genesee, MI Spouse: Jane A. AUSTIN ( - ) Marr. Date: 22 Jun 1861 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 5 F Mary Margaret Ingalls Born: 13 Jul 1837 at: Died: 1837 at: - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 6 M William James Ingalls Born: 23 Jun 1840 at: Burton Twp, Genesee, MI Died: 18 May 1908 at: Kearney Twp, Antrim, MI Buried: at: Bellaire, Antrim, MI Spouse: Cora L. Johnson (1842-1923) Marr. Date: 10 Oct 1861, Genesee, MI - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 7 M Alfred Ingalls Born: 19 May 1841 at: Died: Aug 1896 at: Spouse: TRYPHENA ELMORA Lamberton (1845-1924) Marr. Date: 13 Apr 1862, Genesee, MI - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 8 M Henry Ingalls I Born: 23 May 1843 at: Burton Twp, Genesee, MI Died: 1843 at: Burton Twp, Genesee, MI - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 9 M Henry Ingalls II Born: 10 Jan 1845 at: Burton Twp, Genesee, MI Died: 22 May 1886 at: Banks Twp, Antrim, MI Buried: at: Barnard Cemetery, BARNARD TWP, Charlevoix, MI Spouse: AUGUSTA (Himebaugh) HIMEBAUCH (1848-1930) Marr. Date: 11 Feb 1866, Burton Twp, Genesee, MI - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 10 M Ira A. Ingalls Born: 23 Apr 1847 at: Died: 1909 at: Buried: at: Evergreen Cem., Burton Twp, Genesee, MI Spouse: CARTHA (Carthagean) STEVENSON ( - ) Marr. Date: 1 Jan 1867, Genesee, MI - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 11 F Mary M. Ingalls Born: 31 Mar 1850 at: Died: Oct 1929 at: Spouse: Clarence Miller ( -1925) Marr. Date: Jun 1870 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Last Modified: 5 Jul 2000

    07/12/2000 12:35:30
    1. Family reunion in Jeff Co.
    2. VANALSTYNE /VANALSTINE REUNION and descendants Saturday, August 12th Cedar Point State Park Clayton, NY 11:30 a.m. games 12:30 p.m. meal Food We will provide condiments, paper and plastic products. We will have ice, lemonade and another mixed drink. Canadian friends will bring cold cuts and buns. US friends will bring salads, vegetables, etc. All folks traveling over 2 hours bring deserts. Chips and snacks are welcomed too. We will ask for a small contribution to cover mailing costs and the park only if we need to. We are trying to keep the costs down. Bring Soda if you like Crafts to donate to help cover costs Baked goods Baby pictures Family pictures and history Sports equipment . Directions Cedar Point State Park is located between Clayton and Cape Vincent; NY on Rte 12 E. , North west of Watertown, NY on the St. Lawrence River. Exit at the Cape Vincent/Dexter Exit in Watertown from RTE 81 North, or from the Alexandria Bay bridge exit of Rte 81 N, follow Rte 12 E, the River Road. The Park is about 6 miles from the village of Clayton and has two convenience stores outside of the park entrance. Canadians can also take the Kingston- Wolfe Island Ferry to Cape Vincent and follow Rte 13E to Clayton. Camping You may make reservations by calling 1.800.456-2267. Prime sites are 3-20, 27-43. The lower the number the better the location and it's also closer to the reunion. Information can be obtained on the Internet at http://www.1000islands.org For a copy of the newsletter, e-mail me.

    07/12/2000 11:31:55