Please visit the Town of Hounsfield portion of the Jefferson County Local History Network to see the following new features: SCHOOLHOUSES SECTION: -- Jewettsville Schoolhouse No.2: a recent photo, a map, and reprinted article from circa 1937 listing over 100 teachers, students, and guests who attended a reunion. The oldest student went to the school in 1858! HOUNSFIELD HOMESTEADS SECTION: -- Woolsey Mansion a.k.a. "Camp Haven," now the Addison Wardwell Home on West Main Street: vintage and recent photos, with biographies and portraits of past owners. The address is http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~legends/hounsfield-alhn.html Enjoy! Mark Wentling

The Genealogy Dept is open 12 pm to 4 pm Mon - Fri and 6:30 pm to 8:00 pm Mon eve when the Flower Mem Lib is open. -----Original Message----- From: Vhmisch@aol.com <Vhmisch@aol.com> To: NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, July 30, 2000 7:32 PM Subject: Watertown Genealogy Library >Could someone please tell me the hours the genealogy library is open in >Watertown now? We're going to be at our cottage in the area and I hope to >get time to do some research. Thanks! > > >============================== >Ancestry.com now has more than 200,000 subscribers! To celebrate, >access to ALL of Ancestry.com will be free from July 18 to July 31! >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/freepromo.asp?sourcecode=A11AM >

Could someone please tell me the hours the genealogy library is open in Watertown now? We're going to be at our cottage in the area and I hope to get time to do some research. Thanks!

Ran across this while looking through some old publications that had been recently donated to our local Genealogical Society.....Thought it might be of interest to someone since the town of Houndsfield is mentioned.... Thomas Brown "Ancestral Notes" from the Chedwato and Supplement, Vol 12, March 1965, Page 229 THOMAS HINMAN - Revolution - W18003 New York and Vermont - service when living Nine Partners, N.Y. in Dutchess Co., he enlisted in 1776 in Co. of Capt. Tallmadge, for one year. Moved to Wallingford, Vt. In 1778 and served 7 months in Capt. Thomas Sawyer Co. Pension on rolls of Albany, N.Y. commencing March 4, 1831, ending Feb. 27, 1842. After the war he lived at Wallingford, Vermont for 10 to 12 years and then to Middlebury, Vermont and then to Cazenovia New York and then to Halderman, Canada. He married in 1779 and his age was 21 years, 5 months and 13 day. . .married on 13 Mary to Rhoda Curtis of Nine Partners. He died at Halderman, Canada February 23, 1811 and Rhoda died Houndsfield, N.Y. in 1842. John Clark of Brownsville, Jefferson Co., N.Y. on Sept. 9, 1845, age 70 years, stated he knew him in 1798 in Middlebury, Vermont. Laura and Ebenezer Allen of Houndsfield, N.Y. on July 18, 1845 made a deposition. Laura age 56 years in 1845 stated she was a daughter of Rhoda and Thomas Hinman. Bible record gives: Thomas Hinman married May 21, 1779 to Rhoda Curtis. Thomas Hinman, husband of Rhoda, died February 23, 1811 in the 54th year of this age. Thomas Hinman, son died June 1814, never married and left no children. Theron Hinman born Feb. 6, 1780, died June 20, 1814 in the 34th year. Ruth Hinman born April 3, 1782; died August 2, 1785 Laura Hinman born January 4, 1789 ============== RESEARCHING ============== Bailey (OH), Bethards (MD-OH), Biteman (MD-OH) Brown (VT-NY-MO-KS-IA-OK-WY), Davis (OH-MD) Dines (MD-OH), Emig or Ewing (IL-PA) Eskridge (OH), Hinman (NY), Littleton (MD-OH) Rodenheber (IL-Germany), Seeley (CT-NY) Timmons (MD-OH), Wortman (IL-PA) mailto:tbeinc@msc.net http://www.tbeinc.com/fam_hist/ =========================================

Well, Mark, I wanted to get time to apologize to you - I didn't mean to dispute you, really and truly. But, once again, you and your fine resourceful have set us all straight. I was thinking earlier this morning that I should look at the wonderful map that the former Earleen O'Dell had given me a few years back -- can't think of her last name now, but her husband co-owns that fabulous hotel down near what we kids called, "The Dock." I had to go out this morning so I didn't get to look up the map.....so, thanks, Mark, for saving me from digging around in my huge satchell of tour goodies. Folks, it's a nicely done map and Sackets is a beautiful and interesting place to visit -- be sure to visit Mark's websites. While on the subject of Sackets -- does anyone remember the 1962 fireworks display held for the 1812 commemoration? They did the fireworks from a boat out beyond the Battlefield -- one of the fireworks displays was in the form of a ship -- outstanding -- I've never forgotten it -- come 2012 I hope they will repeat it with even more flare. Just remember, an old lady back in year 2000 recommended you all see it if you can. <grin> Maybe you can find a photo of the event, Mark, for your site. Shirley Farone http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~twigs2000/

Today in Sackets Harbor there is a tiny street called "Barn Alley" which connects Bayard St. to General Smith Drive between West Washington St. & West Main St. It was a dirt road when I was a kid and was paved in the past few years. A map of Sackets just after the War of 1812 shows that a "Public Barn" stood near where the road is now and I wonder if that's how the street got its name. . . . . Does anyone know when the barn was torn down? Who owned it? What it was used for (besides the obvious)? Thanks, Mark Wentling

In the booklet "Harbor Walk: A Guide to the History & Architecture of Sackets Harbor" (available at the visitor center for $2) the Elisha Camp Mansion is profiled. Towards the end it says: "Not only does the house retain its original features and furnishings but also its original family, for today it is occupied by Elisha Camp descendant Mrs. Sydney Smith. In 1968 Ogden Street was re-named in memory of her husband, a distinguished World War II general and president of the Jefferson County Historical Society." So Ogden St. was in existence until 1968 when it was renamed General Smith Drive . . . . . -- Mark

Gary Tremble & list Do you have anything on a Michael Foley, b 1852 in Canada, son of Daniel and Catherine Carroll? Michael married Helen (Nellie) Beyer In Naumburg, Lewis County in 1877. He was a Canal Man on the Black River Canal and died in the Utica, Whitesboro area after 1923. Do you have any idea if the John Foley who was born between 1809 and 1814 had a brother Daniel. Bill Brothers

I have been researching the FOLEY family for some time know, and thought I would post my findings to date, to see if I can find other people that may add or may help in their quest to find their ancestors... Gary Tremble' http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyjeffer/childcla.htm Thomas Foley was a native of Ireland, whence he emigrated to Quebec, where he died in 1832, aged about 50 years. He was married and had six children, viz.: Patrick, Margaret, Ann, and John, and two who died young. John Foley married Mary A., daughter of John McCarty, and they had children as follows: Thomas, James, William, Francis, Joseph, Bernard, and John, Jr. Mr. Foley died in Oxford, Canada, aged 74 years. John Foley, Jr., was born in Elizabethtown, Canada, and came to Clayton from Lewis County, N. Y., in 1879. He married Margaret, daughter of Michael and Margaret (Brown) O'Horo of Lowville, N. Y., and his children are Eugene J., James F., Margarat A., Francis E., and Gertrude M. Mr. Foley is a boot and shoe merchant at Clayton. Descendants of Thomas Foley 1 Thomas Foley b: Abt. 1772 in Ireland d: 1832 in Quebec, Canada .......... 2 John Foley b: Bet. 1809 - 1814 in Tralee Bay, KerryCounty, Ireland d: June 26, 1884 in Holy Cross Cmty, Kemptville,Oxford Co. Ontario, Canada .............. +Mary A. McCarty b: Bet. 1812 - 1818 in Killarney, Kerry County, Ireland d: January 10, 1909 in Holy Cross Cmty, Kemptville,Oxford Co. Ontario, Canada ....................... 3 Tom Foley b: Abt. 1838 ....................... 3 James Foley b: Abt. 1840 ....................... 3 John Jr. Foley b: Bet. 1842 - 1844 in Elizabethtown, Canada d: Abt. 1932 in St. Mary's Cmty., Clayton, New York ........................... +Margaret O'horo b: 1846 in Lowville, N. Y d: 1920 in St. Mary's Cmty., Clayton, New York .................................... 4 James F. Foley .................................... 4 Margarat A. Foley .................................... 4 Eugene J. Foley b: 1873 d: 1910 in St. Mary's Cmty., Clayton, New York .................................... 4 Nellie Foley b: 1878 d: July 31, 1886 in St. Mary's Cmty., Clayton, New York .................................... 4 Francis E. Foley b: 1884 d: 1958 in Clayton Village, Clayton, New York ........................................ +Mabel Wilson b: 1887 d: 1968 in Clayton Village, Clayton, New York .................................... 4 Gertrude M. Foley b: 1897 d: 1917 in St. Mary's Cmty., Clayton, New York ....................... 3 William Foley b: Abt. 1846 ....................... 3 Frank Foley b: Abt. 1850 ....................... 3 Joseph Foley b: Abt. 1853 d: Abt. 1928 in St. Mary's Cmty., Clayton, New York ........................... +Helen Thibault b: 1857 d: 1917 in St. Mary's Cmty., Clayton, New York .................................... 4 Agnes G. Foley b: 1889 d: 1942 in St. Mary's Cmty., Clayton, New York ....................... 3 Bernard Franklin Foley b: April 17, 1857 in Clayton, Jefferson County, New York, USA d: July 27, 1935 in Madelia,Watonwan County, Minnesota ........................... +Catherine (Kate) Luvena Coady b: February 12, 1858 in Ogle County, Illinois d: November 30, 1930 in Madelia, Watonwan County, Minnesota .................................... 4 Ernest Foley b: September 12, 1882 d: July 1963 in Iowa ........................................ +Fannie Sands .................................... 4 George Foley b: November 27, 1885 d: February 04, 1972 in Havre Montana ........................................ +Jenny (Foley ) Wife of George Foley .................................... 4 John Foley b: May 14, 1887 in Carroll, Iowa d: December 24, 1932 ........................................ +Elfie Pratt .................................... 4 Mary Foley b: April 17, 1889 d: January 28, 1970 in Lake City Iowa ........................................ +Murry Peebles .................................... 4 Herman Foley b: June 16, 1890 in Carroll, Iowa d: in So. Gate CA ........................................ +Edna Casey .................................... 4 Alyce Foley b: September 17, 1892 in Lake City, Iowa d: August 14, 1973 in Pelican Rapids Minnesota .................................... 4 Leo Clarence Foley b: July 28, 1897 in Lake City Iowa d: March 07, 1991 in Madelia, Watonwan County, Minnesota ........................................ +Allice Banks Sanders b: August 19, 1898 in Chicago, Illinois d: January 02, 1993 in Madelia, Watonwan County, Minnesota .................................... 4 Lyda Agusta Foley b: July 28, 1897 in Lake City Iowa d: November 07, 1983 in Madelia, Minnesota ........................................ +Frank Langes .......... 2 Patrick Foley .......... 2 Margaret Foley .......... 2 Ann Foley ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

To find the Col. Elisha Camp estate on the 1864 map [available at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyjeffer/hounsmap.htm] scroll until you see the part with the village of Sackets Harbor in it. With your eyes, follow the "hook" the harbor makes -- see how it sort of points back at village shore? The white block it points to is the Camp grounds (hah hah) and the black dot in the center of that block was his house. Thanks to Nan Dixon and her crew of volunteers for putting this map online! -- Mark Wentling

Shirley, If you say there was an Ogden St. in 1954 then I'm sure you're right -- I saw it on a map for 1864, but when I mentioned it to a Sackets native recently I got a "huh?" response, so I figured it was a former name no longer in use. The Ogden St. I know of ran where Gen. Smith Drive is now, which crosses Main St. and runs in front of the Camp Estate and straight into the Barracks. Maybe I am mistaken as to its location and the one you describe is correct. I know the branch you describe is where Broad St. becomes Dodge Avenue out to Watertown (then Militray Rd. branches from that towards Brownville). Thanks for getting me to think more about this! Mark

Mark, in the following paragraph did you really mean "1864?" I have been trying to remember where Ogden St. was in Sackets, because I swore there was one back in the 1950's when we used to trudge along those streets with the band. Is it about two blocks from Main Street toward Watertown -- kind of a fork in the road there -- vere toward the lake and one goes into Madison Barracks and sort of vere toward the right around the bend and one goes out on the road to Route 3. Used to be a tiny, all stone house there at the juncture. So, I'm sure there was an Ogden St. there in 1954. Here's the paragraph: It is interesting to note that the street that forms the western boundary of Elisha Camp's old property today in Sackets was once called Ogden St. at least as recent as 1864, and the name was later changed to "General Smith Drive" which it remains today. Just my 2 cents.....but I can't jog my memory enough to help anybody. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~twigs2000/

Pam asked the list about some deeds she had regarding the Dolan estate in or near Sackets Harbor. I had a few thoughts to share with the list about it . . . . . It sounds to me as though the property is close to -- if not partially the same as -- the land on which Elisha Camp's mansion now stands. The deed indicates that the land was in Sackets Harbor, so that's a clue that it's in the village. I think the "Adams. Rd." is what is now South Broad St. which leads southeast out of the village towards Adams. Camp's property was one block west of this road. The deed also says this land was bounded by property granted by J.L. Odgen to D. Smith "the above land being part of the Ogden Estate at Sacketts Harbor and set off by the Chancellor to the said Camp." It is interesting to note that the street that forms the western boundary of Elisha Camp's old property today in Sackets was once called Ogden St. at least as recent as 1864, and the name was later changed to "General Smith Drive" which it remains today. So Pam's deeds tell us a little about where our street names come from, while also providing a record of the exchanges of arguably the best real estate in Sackets, second to the Sackett Mansion plot. Does this sound right to the rest of you? -- Mark Wentling

Hi Everybody, It's been alittle while since I posted this site and a cousin of mine just finished putting more SHAW pictures on the web at this site. Please check it out if your family came from Quebec, Ontario or Northern New York. These are some of the surnames that connect with this line: CAMPBELL CONDIE CORBETT COX DAWSON JOHNSON PAYNE WEBB WILSON McBRIDE SNELL SHEPHERD George W. Shaw's second wife was Corniela McBride -( I don't think that Corniela's last name was listed at the site, so I have included it here.) They are buried in Watertown, Jefferson County, NY Stephen G. Shaw's wife was Barbara SNELL from Jefferson County, NY. This is the site: http://www.ott.igs.net/~mcroft/lanark/pictures/shaw.htm Please let me know if anyone connects with this line. Also, if anyone has connections to mailing lists for these other surnames, please forward it onto those lists. Thanks Carol

Would anyone on the list have any information on the HAGADORN family in Jefferson County. The 1900 Federal Census shows the following: Frank Hagadorn b.Oct 1866 Rilla Hagadorn b.Nov 1873 Elmer Hagadorn b. Dec 1889 Esther Hagadorn b.Sep 1893 Harold Hagadorn b. Aug 1895 Hazel Hagadorn b. Aug 1899 Charity Shippee (S-I-L) b. Dec 1880 Harry Shippee (B-I-L) b. Apr 1883 Any information will be greatly appreciated.

Hi, I've been looking over the deeds I had copied when I was in Watertown, on a visit to the East last year and trying to figure out where the property was, based on a couple of the maps at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~legends/hounsfield-alhn.html . In 1847, Elisha Camp of Sackets Harbor and his wife Sophia sold this property to my 3G grandfather Edward Dolan of the town of Hounsfield. (He had been in the area since at least 1834). In May of 1855, the property was sold by Edward Dolan Sr., his wife Persis, and his son Edward Jr. to ? Ward of Hounsfield. From this description, can anyone tell me where this property was? "Situated in the town of Hounsfield- beginning at a point in the centre of the Adams road being the N.W. corner of land deeded by J. L. Ogden to D. Smith thence along the centre of the said road North twenty-six and one quarter degrees West eight chains and 10 links to a point 50 links westerly of a stone marked J. W. on the margin of the road thence along the South line of the Wallis farm S. E. to a stone marked J. W. S. thence South twelve and three quarters degrees West seven chains and 73 links to D. Smith's N. E. corner marked D. S. thence along Smith's line North eighty and three quarters degrees West 20 chains and 63 links to the beginning containing fifteen acres of land- the above land being part of the Ogden Estate at Sacketts Harbor and set off by the Chancellor to the said Camp." Pam -- Pam Thomson in BC, Canada A Proud Rootsweb Sponsor Researching Fairweather & Todrick mailto:pamthom@intergate.ca

John KINGSBURY married Nancy BAILEY in 1828, probably in Antwerp. In their land transactions, the following two names appear: -- George PARISH (selling Antwerp land while living in Ogdensburgh, St. Lawrence County, NY -- Silvius HOARD. John KINGSBURY and Nancy BAILEY named their first child Silvius. H. KINGSBURY. Question - what is the relationship between the KINGSBURY and HOARDs? John KINGSBURY and Nancy BAILEY's daughter Nancy A. married H.P. PARISH. Question - Do researchers of PARISH have any information about KINGSBURY and BAILEY ancestry? Thank you, Bernice in VA

Listers, Congratulations to Alice Corbett for finding Joanne Earl's uncle. Wasn't that nice? We are so fortunate to have Alice up there helping us. Good work, Alice. We all share in Joanne's good fortune, too. Shirley Diaries, old letters, poems, autographs, etc. - more coming soon. See our webpage: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~twigs2000/

On April 27, 1921, Beatrice M. CARR married an unknown man, in Adams, Jefferson Co., NY. Her marriage license number was 1526. I wasn't able to do a cross reference at the state archives so wonder if anyone in Jefferson County is descended from a woman named Beatrice M. Carr Something or Other? Perhaps someone can peek at the courthouse or the town clerk's office to see who she married. I don't really need a copy of the document, but do need to find her husband's name. And hopefully, children and grandchildren. Shirley Maynard

Hi, I am interested in marriage and--divorce records for Watertown or Brownville, around the 1870's. Any clue who might have these, and how to find them? Thanks, Sandy -----Original Message----- From: NYJEFFER-D-request@rootsweb.com <NYJEFFER-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: NYJEFFER-D@rootsweb.com <NYJEFFER-D@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, July 24, 2000 8:39 AM Subject: NYJEFFER-D Digest V00 #157