Hazel, I think your best bet is to consult the Jefferson County Journal -- one of the county's oldest papers. Contact the South Jefferson Historical Association at: 9 East Church St., Adams, NY 13605 They have the actual volumes along with an everyname index. Some of the birth/death announcements printed were pretty obscure, and even though the paper was printed in Adams, it covered the furthest reaches of the county albeit, thinly at times. They charge 50 cents a page and I think a $5 search fee. Send it all together with a SASE and you're sure to get a response. Have you tried finding a Woodward family in the 1830 (federal) and 1835 (state) censuses of Watertown? Seeing which households increased by one male child between those years would give you a good place to start! Good luck! Mark A. Wentling Washington, D.C. http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/jefferson/

Does anyone know if births were announced in newspapers as far back as 1831? My ggrandfather, William Woodward, was born in Watertown and I have been informed that there are no official birth records before 1880. Just got to wondering about the newspaper. I'm trying to find out who his parents were and where they were from. Thanks, Hazel > The Watertown Daily Times is Jefferson County's only daily newspaper. > Microfilm copies are stored in Flower Memorial Library, across the street > from the offices. The WDT maintains a library, with some lookup ability. > You might write the Times (see address from Addresses, Site Index) > attention WDT Library. >

The Watertown Daily Times is Jefferson County's only daily newspaper. Microfilm copies are stored in Flower Memorial Library, across the street from the offices. The WDT maintains a library, with some lookup ability. You might write the Times (see address from Addresses, Site Index) attention WDT Library. Nan Dixon wmb wrote: > > Hi, > > New to list.... I am searching for an article from Watertown, Ny's newspaper, about 1958. My husband's grandfather was in the Military -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyjeffer/

Hi, New to list.... I am searching for an article from Watertown, Ny's newspaper, about 1958. My husband's grandfather was in the Military Police (716th, company B) and had an article written about a capture of a criminal he performed. He mentioned Camp Drum, but he was based at Fort Dix, NJ. His copy of the article was burned in a fire (along with all of his military photos unfortunately). Does anyone know where I can find the newspaper archives for that area? I'm totally unfamiliar with the area and live pretty far away, so if they are on microfilm available for purchase or rental that would be great! Thanks and if I can help anyone with Virginia history; I'd be glad to try to help. Janet

Hello. I'm a new subscriber, and I thought I'd jump right in. I'm searching for additional information on Stephen and Frances SUBRA. They are listed, with their children, in the 1850 and 1860 census in the Cape Vincent records. Shortly after the 1860 census, the family migrated westward to Wisconsin, and some farther into Minnesota. I'm wondering if there are land records (Stephen was listed as a farmer in 1850, and a carpenter in 1860) available. Also, this couple lost at least one son (a child) between the 1850 (3 years of age, born circa 1847) and 1860 census (not listed). His name was BAPTISTE SUBRA. I'm asking if anyone would know of local cemeteries near or in Cape Vincent, and how I might access information there. Any other ideas would be appreciated on locating members of this family. Thanks so much! FYI - It's amazing what you don't know until you start looking. Stephen and Frances migrated from France (no records yet, but both were born there). I discovered that Frances followed her family to Minnesota. For a short time, they lived in Iowa (where I'm at!), and this is where she died. Her grave is in Vinton, IA (visited it just last week). She's my g-g-g grandmother. Neat. Thanks again for any help. Pastor Kevin Subra * pastorkevin@northridgebaptist.com Northridge Baptist Church * 3700 - 6th Avenue * Des Moines, IA 50313 * (515) 246-9967 * www.northridgebaptist.com

I have seen reference on this web-site to a Howard American Cheese Factory in Stone Mills. The proprietor was listed as David Schell. I think the Schells must have purchased the factory from a Howard. I am searching B. V. Howard (Ballard Volney). He is listed in the 1870 census as a cheesemaker living in Stone Mills. If anyone has any information on this Howard Cheese Factory or the Howard family who may have owned it, would appreciate hearing from you. Thanks, Joan Bray

Hello New York! Does anyone know what church in Jefferson County (possibly Dexter or Brownville) a reverend "S. Reed Esq." may have been employed. I'm researching the marriage of my great-great-grandparents, Nathaniel PERKINS and Martha DORCHESTER. The abstract of the marriage license says they were married on December 28, 1848 in the town of Brownville by Reverend S. Reed Esq. What denomination was the church? Are there any records surviving the church? Any information will be 100% more than we have right now. Sincerely, Kevin O'Brien Laguna Hills, CA Researching: Shannon Perkins Warner Dorchester Van Schaick Gorman Pinkerton Gauley Lowe Gillie Halley Smith (Jefferson County, NY's Smith's)

Mark, I had a great aunt who was born in either Jefferson County or St. Lawrence Co.around 1850, who was named Temperance Jane Hatch. By the time she married, in Illinois, and afterwards, she was always Jennie, including marriage records, obituary, etc. This might explain Jane/Jennie. Ruth Leathers

Does anyone have information regarding the 19th-century Godfrey family of Sackets Harbor? Here is the puzzle I am trying to solve. I grew up across the street from what is known as the Dyer Burnham House on West Washington St. in Sackets Harbor. According to the Brennan's book "Images of America: Sackets Harbor" (pub. 2000) in 1866 it was acquired by Capt. Ralph Godfrey, a sailor on the Great Lakes. The book says after retirement he served as janitor at Sackets Harbor Union School for 20 years. A Capt. Ralph Godfrey is buried in Lakeside Cemetery in Sackets but his tombstone apparently indicates he died in 1865 during Civil War service. With him are wife "Jennie E.", born in 1839 and three daughters. The cemetery transcripts I'm using are at: http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Enyjeffer/barthoun.htm Coincidentally, my great-great-grandfather Silas Washburn of Camps Mills had an aunt Jane Stoodley, born 1839, who according to a letter from Kent Stoodley of Adams Center, now in his 90's, married a John Godfrey, "sailor on the Great Lakes who owned his own ship; they had three daughters." The birth year for Jane and Jennie match, the occupation of the Godfrey men match, and the number of daughters match. I am inclined to think that perhaps Kent mixed up Mr. Godfrey's first name and that in fact it was Ralph Godfrey whom Jane Stoodley married, but that doesn't explain why it would say "Jennie E." on her tombstone. The first names of the Godfrey men do not match, and there is a discrepancy as to the fate of Ralph Godfrey. Can anyone resolve the identites of these folks for me, please? The house can be seen at http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/jefferson/hounsfield/ -- Click "Homesteads" Thank you! Mark A. Wentling

Hi folks, The Town of Hounsfield Local History Network website has moved to http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/jefferson/hounsfield/ New features this week are: PEOPLE & FAMILIES section: >Hon. Thoedore Canfield (1823-1915): biography, including portrait and signature >Hon. Henry J. Lane (1841-1915): biography, including portrait HOMESTEADS section: >Dyer Burnham House (c.1837), West Washington St., Sackets Harbor >George Sacket House (1839), Broad St., Sackets Harbor NEIGHBORHOODS: SACKETS HARBOR section: >postcard gallery I hope the new design will make your research experience easier -- Enjoy the new features! Sincerely, Mark A. Wentling Washington, D.C.

Cathy, Do you know of a DR Kenneth E Mott ?? He wrote two letters to the Gen Dept in the 1980's about this John T Mott line and said he was a great grandson, names the children of John T same as you did - can't see where he got much from the dept- he sent $25 for a search so I would think there should be more material - will check with some vols this week might come up with something. I found Albert and some of his family buried in Brookside Cem. His obit said his parents were William and Phoebe (Wilder) Mott. He was born 20 Feb 1843 T/ Watertown - does not give any brothers or sisters just 2 children I found Jane buried in N Watertown Cem with her husband Edwin, I couldn't find her obit just the entered into rest. she died 15 Jul 1922 Oneanta, NY - not sure that is spelled right. so I don't have any verification. How far do you want to go down this line - do you want the information on Alberts children?? Alice -----Original Message----- From: Cathy Doyle <myfamilytree@go.com> To: NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, August 12, 2000 7:24 PM Subject: Mott/Weaver/Moore/Crook - Houndsfield/Watertown/Wilna - HELP! Hello! yesterday, I received my gg grandfathers' Civil War pension file, and I found out a little more! My gg grandfather was John T. Mott. He was born March 02, 1834 in Houndsfield. He married Harriet Crook(didn't know about this!)..who died on/about June 02, 1862 at Watertown. He then married my gg grandmother, Elizabeth Anne Weaver on January 01, 1867 in Wilna. They were married by Rev. E. E. Kellogg. They had: Jennie A. Mott b. July 18, 1868 m. A. H. Stuart Adah E. Mott b. August 09, 1870 m. William Foote Albert Riley Mott b. March 22, 1872 m. Genevieve John(also called Don) Hayes Mott b. April m. Emma Myra Weaver. In an affidavit on June 08, 1912, two of his siblings sign their names. They are: Albert W. Mott and Jane A. Moore. The affidavit was drawn out in Watertown by a William K. Mott(another sibling? cousin?). John T. Mott died October 25, 1911 in Prosser, Adams County, Nebraska. Can anyone help me? Any ideas on who his family(parents?) might have been. All suggestions are welcome! Thank You! Cathy ___________________________________________________ GO Network Mail Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com ============================== Genealogy calendars, guestbooks and more: Visit RootsWeb's Resource Center at http://resources.rootsweb.com/

I've been lurking on this list for several months, figured it was time to make my pitch again for any PECK researchers in Jeff County. Luman Peck moved from CT along with about a dozen others between 1803 and 1805. He moved in 1840, but married Eunice BELL while in Montgomery NY. His father Ariel PECK died in Ellisburg in 1820. Luman and Eunice's daughter Sally PECK married Calvin BISHOP in Henderson where they lived for the rest of their lives. Stephen Peck stevep01@mediaone.net

Hello! yesterday, I received my gg grandfathers' Civil War pension file, and I found out a little more! My gg grandfather was John T. Mott. He was born March 02, 1834 in Houndsfield. He married Harriet Crook(didn't know about this!)..who died on/about June 02, 1862 at Watertown. He then married my gg grandmother, Elizabeth Anne Weaver on January 01, 1867 in Wilna. They were married by Rev. E. E. Kellogg. They had: Jennie A. Mott b. July 18, 1868 m. A. H. Stuart Adah E. Mott b. August 09, 1870 m. William Foote Albert Riley Mott b. March 22, 1872 m. Genevieve John(also called Don) Hayes Mott b. April m. Emma Myra Weaver. In an affidavit on June 08, 1912, two of his siblings sign their names. They are: Albert W. Mott and Jane A. Moore. The affidavit was drawn out in Watertown by a William K. Mott(another sibling? cousin?). John T. Mott died October 25, 1911 in Prosser, Adams County, Nebraska. Can anyone help me? Any ideas on who his family(parents?) might have been. All suggestions are welcome! Thank You! Cathy ___________________________________________________ GO Network Mail Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com

I have been working on the Foley family ....and many settled in the Clayton area...but I was recently lucky by checking th CANADIAN side..it seems that the librarians are very helpful there and were able to locate some history for me .....so people take this into account when searching Jefferson County...especially in the mid 1800's Descendants of Thomas Foley 1 Thomas Foley b: Abt. 1772 in Ireland d: 1832 in Quebec, Canada .......... 2 Patrick Foley .......... 2 Margaret Foley .......... 2 Ann Foley .......... 2 John Foley b: Bet. 1809 - 1814 in Tralee Bay, Kerry County, Ireland d: June 26, 1884 in Holy Cross Cmty, Kemptville,Oxford Co. Ontario, Canada .............. +Mary A. McCarty b: Bet. 1812 - 1818 in Killarney, Kerry County, Ireland d: January 10, 1909 in Holy Cross Cmty, Kemptville,Oxford Co. Ontario, Canada ....................... 3 Tom Foley b: Abt. 1838 ....................... 3 James Foley b: Abt. 1840 ....................... 3 John Jr. Foley b: Bet. 1842 - 1844 in Elizabethtown, Canada d: Abt. 1932 in St. Mary's Cmty., Clayton, New York ........................... +Margaret O'Horo b: 1846 in Lowville, N. Y d: 1920 in St. Mary's Cmty., Clayton, New York ....................... 3 William Foley b: Abt. 1846 ....................... 3 Frank Foley b: Abt. 1850 ....................... 3 Joseph Foley b: Abt. 1853 d: Abt. 1928 in St. Mary's Cmty., Clayton, New York ........................... +Helen Thibault b: 1857 d: 1917 in St. Mary's Cmty., Clayton, New York ....................... 3 Bernard Franklin Foley b: April 17, 1857 in Clayton, Jefferson County, New York, USA d: July 27, 1935 in Madelia,Watonwan County, Minnesota ........................... +Catherine (Kate) Luvena Coady b: February 12, 1858 in Ogle County, Illinois d: November 30, 1930 in Madelia, Watonwan County, Minnesota ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Thanks to all of those who offered their services and advice regarding my FTM-to-GEDCOM problem. Someone is working on it for me already -- what a great group of volunteers! Thanks again!, Mark

Mark, I have heard that there are telephone troubles up in Jefferson County -- because of the strike -- and I also heard that there were 82,000 vandalized lines throughout the whole strike-ridden area....so maybe this has something to do with your N/A. Mark, I'd be willing to help you, but I think it may not work because I have only 4.5 FTM -- and if the person is sending an update from that, it won't work....I hope I don't have that backwards. Good luck in capturing the file. Shirley Farone Recently added: 1937 and 1938 Diaries http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~twigs2000/ Also: My database, including text, is on WorldConnect now: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=shirleyfarone016

Hi folks, A week ago someone sent me a Family Tree Maker file (for Windows, not Mac) of the descendants of a Jefferson County pioneer I've been tracking for years. Unfortunately, I don't own FTM so I can't open it! I emailed the person twice in the past week to ask if they could convert it to a GEDCOM and resend, but I've gotten no answer, so they must be out of town. Would one of you who owns FTM let me email the file to you for you to convert to GEDCOM format and then you could email the GEDCOM back to me please? Here are instructions for exporting a FTM file to GEDCOM format: http://www.familytreemaker.com/support/imexport/01617.html I'd really appreciate it! Thanks, Mark A. Wentling

Hi, Does anyone know if any member of the CLOUGH Family or associated families ever lived in upstate New York especially St Lawrence and Jefferson Counties. I have found members of the OATMAN family (David Oatman married Elizabeth Clough ) living in Adams, NY. If anyone has any information about this family, It would help me greatly. Jerry

Cathy, In the Town of Watertown 1850 census there are several Mott families. .one pg 345 dwl 990 fml 1100 has Mott Wm 42 yr " Elmelia 40yr " Maria 17 yr " Jno 16 yr " Hyatt 12 yr " Albert 7 yr Also there are several Mott children with other families. I didn't find any Mott's in the town of Hounsfield 1850 Alice -----Original Message----- From: Cathy Doyle <myfamilytree@go.com> To: NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, August 12, 2000 7:24 PM Subject: Mott/Weaver/Moore/Crook - Houndsfield/Watertown/Wilna - HELP! Hello! yesterday, I received my gg grandfathers' Civil War pension file, and I found out a little more! My gg grandfather was John T. Mott. He was born March 02, 1834 in Houndsfield. He married Harriet Crook(didn't know about this!)..who died on/about June 02, 1862 at Watertown. He then married my gg grandmother, Elizabeth Anne Weaver on January 01, 1867 in Wilna. They were married by Rev. E. E. Kellogg. They had: Jennie A. Mott b. July 18, 1868 m. A. H. Stuart Adah E. Mott b. August 09, 1870 m. William Foote Albert Riley Mott b. March 22, 1872 m. Genevieve John(also called Don) Hayes Mott b. April m. Emma Myra Weaver. In an affidavit on June 08, 1912, two of his siblings sign their names. They are: Albert W. Mott and Jane A. Moore. The affidavit was drawn out in Watertown by a William K. Mott(another sibling? cousin?). John T. Mott died October 25, 1911 in Prosser, Adams County, Nebraska. Can anyone help me? Any ideas on who his family(parents?) might have been. All suggestions are welcome! Thank You! Cathy ___________________________________________________ GO Network Mail Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com ============================== Genealogy calendars, guestbooks and more: Visit RootsWeb's Resource Center at http://resources.rootsweb.com/

Cathy, What was the affidavit for ? John T d 1911 and it was made 1912 that would be after his death right? Did you try to get his death cert? You could try to find his brother and sister maybe their obits or death certs would give the parents names and or relatives. Alice -----Original Message----- From: Cathy Doyle <myfamilytree@go.com> To: NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <NYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, August 12, 2000 7:24 PM Subject: Mott/Weaver/Moore/Crook - Houndsfield/Watertown/Wilna - HELP! Hello! yesterday, I received my gg grandfathers' Civil War pension file, and I found out a little more! My gg grandfather was John T. Mott. He was born March 02, 1834 in Houndsfield. He married Harriet Crook(didn't know about this!)..who died on/about June 02, 1862 at Watertown. He then married my gg grandmother, Elizabeth Anne Weaver on January 01, 1867 in Wilna. They were married by Rev. E. E. Kellogg. They had: Jennie A. Mott b. July 18, 1868 m. A. H. Stuart Adah E. Mott b. August 09, 1870 m. William Foote Albert Riley Mott b. March 22, 1872 m. Genevieve John(also called Don) Hayes Mott b. April m. Emma Myra Weaver. In an affidavit on June 08, 1912, two of his siblings sign their names. They are: Albert W. Mott and Jane A. Moore. The affidavit was drawn out in Watertown by a William K. Mott(another sibling? cousin?). John T. Mott died October 25, 1911 in Prosser, Adams County, Nebraska. Can anyone help me? Any ideas on who his family(parents?) might have been. All suggestions are welcome! Thank You! Cathy ___________________________________________________ GO Network Mail Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com ============================== Genealogy calendars, guestbooks and more: Visit RootsWeb's Resource Center at http://resources.rootsweb.com/