Looking for information on the descendants of Alfred Freeman and son Erastus Freeman that owned and operated the Freeman House/ Checker House in Great Bend. Colatteral Lines are: Francis of Chamion, Strickland of Phildelphia, Townsend of Jefferson Co, Barnes of Lewis Co., Frendeburg, Woolworth, Loomis, Roberts, Tucker and a few more. Any information especially pictures are gretaly apprecieted. GB __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cole Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12427.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You are searching in a tough time period. The US census did not list children's names until 1850. You may want to try subsequent censuses. Sometimes you will find elderly parents (and in-laws) living with adult children. You always want to work backward from what you know but you are somehow working forward into the unknown. I'm not sure how you managed to go back so far but not know the descendants. The oldest records that are also easy to search are land records, wills and probate. If your people owned land and left any kind of estate at death (assuming they died in Jefferson county) you may find records at the county courthouse in Watertown. I wouldn't rule out the possibility of finding some old baptism records but based on my work with church records in neighboring St. Lawrence county (less than a dozen churches so far) it is unusual to find many records from prior to 1850 or so. Hope this helps - Russ Sprague Kensington, Maryland

mM great grandmother Sarah Patterson lived on High st and is burried in the walton st cemetary . Also looking for info on Oliver Patterson Wells Patterson and Nellie Senecal and Lula Patterson Her children. Thank you for reading this letter Edna Servos ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Hunter" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [NYJEFFER] More Boigraphies online for Jefferson County, NY > MUCH PRAISES GO TO RAY FOR ALL HIS HARD WORK! > > Greg Hunter > > > Today I added 121 new biographies to the Jefferson County, New York > Biographies. All my files for Jefferson County ad Jefferson County links > may be reached by this lnk. > > http://history.rays-place.com/ny/cty-jefferson.htm > > Cheers > Ray Brown > http://www.rays-place.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hubbard, Ward, Foote, McOmber Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12421.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks to all for the help!! Although I'm not sure I'm any closer to proving anything! Happy Hunting and a Happy & Prosperous New Year to all.

Hi Greg I note you say that he Married Ann Dayton Shannon "about" 1863. Does that mean you do not have their actual Marriage Date or record yet? Since William and Ann Shannon were living in Alexandria in 1850 it would be logical that Thomas Hunter married her in or near that area. If not in the church by the local Pastor. Plessis is near the border of Tn of Alexandria and Tn of Theresa. There are Methodist Episcopal Church Records with the FHC (LDS Mormon Church) on Microfilm that can be ordered at your local FHC for a small fee and be viewed on their reader. These Records for the Church in Theresa are from 1818 until 1943. If you live in or near Watertown NY you can view them at their location. If you have not already reviewed them I would suggest it. The church marriage certificate should indicate the parents of both the bride and groom. You might also try to Snail Mail the: (If you haven't already done that) the North Central New York Conference Archives, Depository PO Box 1515 Cicero New York 13039 Att: Sharon Markowski - Archivist Most archives work with Volunteers and prefer if you want information you take the time to write a letter outlining your request, making it specific as to the information you are seeking, enclose a SASE and small donation. Also you should give them ample time to reply. I would mention both the churches of Town of Alexandria and Tn of Theresa. You mentioned you researched everything available at the Flower Memorial Library. Did you reviewed and read the old newspaper microfilms for an Obit on Thomas Hunter? The Gleanings on the web sites that are available on the Internet are just that "Gleanings" and by no means do they have all of the Obits in the Newspapers listed. There are also Weekly Newspapers that were published in surrounding area's that might of had an Obit listed. Clayton is another possible along with Ogdensburg. Obits vary with the information from Newspaper to Newspaper. All area listed on the NY Newspaper Project Site. http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/nysnp/county1.htm. These are available on Inter Library Loan. You also mention that you have his complete Death Certificate. Were the parents left Blank or marked unknown? I noticed that he did state that they were B in PA on a Census. But remember you do not know if he provided that information or it came from another person in the household. Many times that information is found to be incorrect. On two other Federal Census it states he was B in New Hampshire. So I would question the PA for the parents and look for further information. A few other suggestions that you might not of checked Pat R

MUCH PRAISES GO TO RAY FOR ALL HIS HARD WORK! Greg Hunter Today I added 121 new biographies to the Jefferson County, New York Biographies. All my files for Jefferson County ad Jefferson County links may be reached by this lnk. http://history.rays-place.com/ny/cty-jefferson.htm Cheers Ray Brown http://www.rays-place.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cole Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12427/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Can Any one help me on any Info on Truman Cole, He was borned 1797 in Clinton County, New York, He was on a census in 1820, 1830 Jefferson County, New York, he was running with his brother Peter cole, They (both Brothers) had childern borned about the same time and what I was looking for is any records with truman's or peter's name on it, does any one have advice to help me get where Im going??? sense truman was a minister of some sort, Im not sure if there would be any bap. records??? but was hoping for maybe a birth record, I have one child "Lucius E. Cole" borned Ca. 1823 , Any help or direction would be great!!! thank you for any time or efforts glenn

George Dear was born in Connecticut and died in Sackets Harbor, February 03, 1854. He and his wife Eunice and several of their children are buried in Lakeside Cemetery, Sackets Harbor. A daughter Catherine, b.November 22, 1822 was married to William Winch, on December 28, 1842. They in turn had four children, William, Jr., Franklin, Harriet and Catherine. William, Jr. was married to Ellen (unk) and they had five children. Franklin was married to Julia Mitchell and they had three children. Harriet died, December 01, 1860 and Catherine I know nothing about. Anyone familiar with these names ? Would like to fill in the blanks. Russell Dear

For more info you might try these sites: 1) NNYLN (Northern NY Library Network) which includes many years of the Watertown Herald. http://news.nnyln.net/ 2) Old Fulton Postcards: http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html Both these site use OCR (Optical character recognition) to automate searches for words and phrases in online images of old newspapers. Boolean search is often most effective. For example, search for 'smith w/4 thomas' would search for the word 'smith' within four words of 'thomas'. Upper/lower case does not matter in the searches. When you use that type of search be sure to also select search type 'boolean' or it tries to find the literal characters typed in and will return no hits. One way to practice is to search for something you know is there and see how it returns results. Read the FAQ (frequently asked questions) and other help at the sites. It pays to invest a bit of time in learning how to effectively use the sites. One more source you could try is your local library (online). The reason I mention this is that my local library (in Maryland) has access to heritagequest.com for people with a valid library card. Heritagequest has census images online from most years from 1790 to 1930. Many are not indexed and those that are indexed are by head of household only. On the other hand, if you are fairly confident about where people lived and if it's a small community, you can browse through the entire community and may find your people on the 1920 or 1930 census. It's actually better to browse a whole community as you cannot always trust the indexes. If you find someone by using an index, that's great but if you don't find them, it could be they were omitted from the index, not spelled as expected or some other error. Hope this helps - Russ Sprague Kensington, Maryland From: [email protected] Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: [NYJEFFER] HOLMAN in Watertown Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 22:32:57 EST Looking for information on Thomas and Dorothy (Gibbons) Holman Dorothy was born in England, lived in Co Mayo in Ireland with her maternal grandparents and Uncle and emigrated to US about 1916 .. They had 4 children, Connie, Betty and 2 boys Dorothy worked in one of the local High Schools in the lunchroom .and they both worked for a time at the Smith farms .. MaryPat ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Type your favorite song.  Get a customized station.  Try MSN Radio powered by Pandora. http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001

Hi Russ, ..Thank you soooo much for the direction, will let you know what I find .... MaryPat

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Beatty, Elwood Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12426.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Kris, Are you a member of BP2000? See my reply to this subject.. Email me off the message board [email protected] please use Beatty in subject line. Nelda

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Beatty, Elwood Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12426.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Can't help with your Gordon Elwood, but... your Cynthia Corline (Carrie) Beatty, is another story. I am a Beatty researcher I sent a copy of your request here to the BP2000 mailng list. (BP2000 is Beatty Project 2000 a group o Beatty researchers.) anyway, here is what was sent in return.. Nelda -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:bp2000- Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 7:16 AM Subject: Re: [BP2000] PML Find - Robert and Susan Beatty, Iowa I show it as L-380. Census Place: Pleasant, Poweshiek,Iowa (L-380) Source: FHL Film 1254362 National Archives Film T9-0362 Page 558C Name Relation Sex Marr Race Age Born Birthplace Robert BEATTIE Self M M W 79 IRE Fa: IRE Mo: IRE Maria BEATTIE Wife F M W 64 NY, Fa: NY Mo: NY Carrie ELWOOD Dau F W W 36 CAN Occ: Keeping House Fa: IRE Mo: NY Frank ELWOOD, GSon M S W 8 NY Fa: ENG Mo: CAN ~~~~~~~~ NOTE: you might find another person looking for this Beatty lineage by coresponding directly with the B2000 mailing list, or search the list archives for a contact person. Look for Gordon in the 1870 census. if Carrie moved to her parents after Gordon's death and the son is 8 (in the 1880 census) then he was born 1872.. She is not living with her parents in 1870 so might be married already. I'd be looking to find them 1870 now where did they marry? NY or Canada? try in that area for records.. Also see the lising of where father born for son Frank? His father b. England... Hope this helps Nelda

Today I added 121 new biographies to the Jefferson County, New York Biographies. All my files for Jefferson County ad Jefferson County links may be reached by this lnk. http://history.rays-place.com/ny/cty-jefferson.htm Cheers Ray Brown http://www.rays-place.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12426.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Kris, Thanks! I had info that spoke to her going by last name of Clark but have not been able to track down anything on that. If you have links you can share that would help me track down Gordon Elwood in Watertown that would be great. Steve

Florence This site has some problems. The reason it went off the Internet a while back. He admits that and if too many people are accessing it at one time you are not going to be able to get into the Site. The person just has to keep trying until they get a time when it is not so busy. Also, he has limited Obits, News Articles and etc. so one might not find "anything" regarding their inquiry. The best bet is the Watertown Archives at Flower, the Adams Archives at So Jefferson and etc. etc.. This site is putting only gleanings of a limited amount of info. Pat

Earlier someone mentioned about a name being changed to Weaver. My ancestor Sicard came to New York City in 1688. The name changed to: Seacord, Secord, Secor, Sycart, and others. Don't have access to them now because they are packed away. Florence

I was just there and it is up and running now Here is a repeat of the address: www.fultonhistory.com Florence ----- Original Message ----- From: "Florence Secor" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [NYJEFFER] fulton site >I haven't been able to access it today - get message page not avilable. > That happens every now & then. Try again at various times or tomorrow. - > Florence > >

I haven't been able to access it today - get message page not avilable. That happens every now & then. Try again at various times or tomorrow. - Florence ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johnson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 3:52 PM Subject: [NYJEFFER] fulton site > Florence - I tried to get to the fulton history site address, but it > doesn't connect. Is the address complete, something missing? Anything > special one needs to get it? > Vieva Johnson >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: ELWOOD< BEATTY< CLARK Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.jefferson/12426.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Steve , Carrie Beatty is a sister to my line. (Her Brother Robert James Beatty) is my GG Grandfather. I don't have alot of info on her. But I Have her Living with her mother & father in 1880 in Poweshiek Co, IA & then her in 1900 in Muscatine Co,IA Living with her Sister Henrietta, She is going by Cory Clark. She got remarried , but haven't located the proof yet . Let me know if I can try & help with more. Thanks Kris

Florence - I tried to get to the fulton history site address, but it doesn't connect. Is the address complete, something missing? Anything special one needs to get it? Vieva Johnson