Fulton County formed in 1838 from Montgomery County. In 1784 Montgomery County was a huge area. Probably the Town was then in Fulton County. randy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael" <mseamans@rochester.rr.com> To: <NYHERKIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [NYHERKIM] Aaron Seamans & Lillis Martin of Northampton, New York > From what I can tell, according to my 4g-grandfather's pension papers, > Northampton was in Montgomery Co. back in 1844, but has since "moved" (if > you can move a town - HA) to Fulton Co. It is supposed to be on the > outskirts of Northville. > Northampton is listed as a town under the Fulton Co. Rootsweb.com web site. > > > Michael > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judi Boniface" <herkimergenealogy@yahoo.com> > To: <NYHERKIM-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 5:39 PM > Subject: Re: [NYHERKIM] Aaron Seamans & Lillis Martin of Northampton, New > York > > > > MIchael, > > > > Is Northampton in Herkimer County? If so, near what? > > > > Judi Boniface > > Herkimer, NY > > herkimergenealogy@yahoo.com > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2 May 2002 14:31:33 -0400, Michael wrote: > > >I am searching for the burial site of my 5g-grandparents, Aaron > > >Seamans and Lillis Martin. Aaron b. February 20, 1732/33, Swansea, > > >Bristol Co., Massachusetts, d. October 14, 1815 and Lillis b. > > >October 17, 1732, Swansea, Bristol Co., Massachusetts, d. July 4, > > >1806. > > >According to the Seamans genealogy book, both were buried on their > > >family farm in Northampton, New York. Their son, Reuben Seamans, I > > >believe, continued to live & work on the farm after his parents > > >passed away, but I don't believe that he was buried there. > > >If anyone might have information on this family or where I might be > > >able to find out where their farm was located during these times, it > > >would be greatly appreciated! > > > > > > > > >Michael Seamans > > > > > > > > >==== NYHERKIM Mailing List ==== > > >Cyndi's List of Genealogy Sites: http://www.cyndislist.com/ > > > > > > > > > > ==== NYHERKIM Mailing List ==== > > Visit the Herkimer County GenWeb page at > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyherkim/ > > > > > > > > ==== NYHERKIM Mailing List ==== > UNSUBSCRIBE? Send the message UNSUBSCRIBE to: > NYHERKIM-L-request@rootsweb.com or .... > NYHERKIM-D-request@rootsweb.com for DIGEST > >

From what I can tell, according to my 4g-grandfather's pension papers, Northampton was in Montgomery Co. back in 1844, but has since "moved" (if you can move a town - HA) to Fulton Co. It is supposed to be on the outskirts of Northville. Northampton is listed as a town under the Fulton Co. Rootsweb.com web site. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judi Boniface" <herkimergenealogy@yahoo.com> To: <NYHERKIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [NYHERKIM] Aaron Seamans & Lillis Martin of Northampton, New York > MIchael, > > Is Northampton in Herkimer County? If so, near what? > > Judi Boniface > Herkimer, NY > herkimergenealogy@yahoo.com > > > > On Thu, 2 May 2002 14:31:33 -0400, Michael wrote: > >I am searching for the burial site of my 5g-grandparents, Aaron > >Seamans and Lillis Martin. Aaron b. February 20, 1732/33, Swansea, > >Bristol Co., Massachusetts, d. October 14, 1815 and Lillis b. > >October 17, 1732, Swansea, Bristol Co., Massachusetts, d. July 4, > >1806. > >According to the Seamans genealogy book, both were buried on their > >family farm in Northampton, New York. Their son, Reuben Seamans, I > >believe, continued to live & work on the farm after his parents > >passed away, but I don't believe that he was buried there. > >If anyone might have information on this family or where I might be > >able to find out where their farm was located during these times, it > >would be greatly appreciated! > > > > > >Michael Seamans > > > > > >==== NYHERKIM Mailing List ==== > >Cyndi's List of Genealogy Sites: http://www.cyndislist.com/ > > > > > ==== NYHERKIM Mailing List ==== > Visit the Herkimer County GenWeb page at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyherkim/ > >

MIchael, Is Northampton in Herkimer County? If so, near what? Judi Boniface Herkimer, NY herkimergenealogy@yahoo.com On Thu, 2 May 2002 14:31:33 -0400, Michael wrote: >I am searching for the burial site of my 5g-grandparents, Aaron >Seamans and Lillis Martin. Aaron b. February 20, 1732/33, Swansea, >Bristol Co., Massachusetts, d. October 14, 1815 and Lillis b. >October 17, 1732, Swansea, Bristol Co., Massachusetts, d. July 4, >1806. >According to the Seamans genealogy book, both were buried on their >family farm in Northampton, New York. Their son, Reuben Seamans, I >believe, continued to live & work on the farm after his parents >passed away, but I don't believe that he was buried there. >If anyone might have information on this family or where I might be >able to find out where their farm was located during these times, it >would be greatly appreciated! > > >Michael Seamans > > >==== NYHERKIM Mailing List ==== >Cyndi's List of Genealogy Sites: http://www.cyndislist.com/

I am searching for the burial site of my 5g-grandparents, Aaron Seamans and Lillis Martin. Aaron b. February 20, 1732/33, Swansea, Bristol Co., Massachusetts, d. October 14, 1815 and Lillis b. October 17, 1732, Swansea, Bristol Co., Massachusetts, d. July 4, 1806. According to the Seamans genealogy book, both were buried on their family farm in Northampton, New York. Their son, Reuben Seamans, I believe, continued to live & work on the farm after his parents passed away, but I don't believe that he was buried there. If anyone might have information on this family or where I might be able to find out where their farm was located during these times, it would be greatly appreciated! Michael Seamans

In a message dated 4/20/02 1:02:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time, NYHERKIM-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > I'm sorry, randy, but I have. In fact, I've tried, in vain, to find > anything on my ancestors at that site. I don't know why. I have searched > using a variety of parameters, but to no avail. Unless I'm doing something > wrong, I must conclude that my little-recorded family is just too obscure. > Thanks for the comment, sir. > Let me jump in here with a comment. The Family Search site I believe is limited to information submitted by church members and others concerning their own research, web sites, IGI, etc. Beyond this are the millions of rolls of microfilm copied from original records. This information is accessible by borrowing the films through your local Family History Center. In other words, you still need to do original research to find your family. This is the fun of genealogy! You can find information if you are lucky on the Family Search site but original research is what we all should be doing. Bonnie

I could have answered the same way, Michael. What's interesting is that, while I can get nothing from FamilySearch over the internet, I did get something when I went to the LDS Church in my area. I got a printout of one of my family lines that went all the way back to the 1400's. Yet when I put in the same name here at home, nothing comes up. I have gotten so frustrated with the FamilySearch site I've decided never to use it again! "Michael J. Miller" wrote: > I'm sorry, randy, but I have. In fact, I've tried, in vain, to find > anything on my ancestors at that site. I don't know why. I have searched > using a variety of parameters, but to no avail. Unless I'm doing something > wrong, I must conclude that my little-recorded family is just too obscure. > Thanks for the comment, sir. > > Sincerely, > Michael J. Miller > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "diefsea" <diefsea@email.msn.com> > To: <NYHERKIM-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 2:55 PM > Subject: Re: [NYHERKIM] New York State Census Help > > > Michael, me lad, you never tried to use the > > familysearch website? > > > > http://www.familysearch.com > > > > Good luck. randy > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Michael J. Miller" <mjmiller@uplink.net> > > To: <NYHERKIM-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:35 AM > > Subject: [NYHERKIM] New York State Census Help > > > > > > > I rarely solicit help on a list but I'm stuck on the birthplace of my > > g-g-g-grandparents. I can't travel to New York or any LDS FHC's anytime > > soon to look this up myself in the 1855 & 1865 NY State Census. > > > > > > They were James and Almira Miller of Winfield, Herkimer Co, NY. > > > > > > All the census records are ambiguous for James, to say the least. One > > year it's NY & CT, then CT & CT, then another says VT & CT. I'm pretty > > sure Almira Harrington was born in CT, but for James, I don't know. I > > thought, that because the state census asks for the NY county of birth, > > more attention would have been given to accuracy because of this added > > detail if he were born in NY. > > > > > > If anyone has access to these, I sure would appreciate a look. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > Michael J. Miller > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== NYHERKIM Mailing List ==== > > > Cyndi's List of Genealogy Sites: http://www.cyndislist.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== NYHERKIM Mailing List ==== > > Visit the New York State GenWeb site at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenweb/ > > Herkimer County: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyherkim/ > > > > ==== NYHERKIM Mailing List ==== > UNSUBSCRIBE? Send the message UNSUBSCRIBE to: > NYHERKIM-L-request@rootsweb.com or .... > NYHERKIM-D-request@rootsweb.com for DIGEST

Hey Amy, Did you join the Herkimer Co., Historical Society, they have people that will help you for free once you join. I have had the greatest help from them. They are terrific!! I too do not live near Herkimer and have children so I know what it is like to do the research from a distance. Bonnie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amy Rupp" <amyr@jump.net> To: <NYHERKIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [NYHERKIM] Just a little information > > In the meantime -- back at the Ranch -- if you don't live > > within walking distance of Herkimer County - the > > FHC, used with sufficient wariness, is a place to start > > when you've looked other places with zero results. > > True, true. But with two kids ages 9.5 and 2.5 it's > tough tough to go. Just about got forcibly ejected from > the State Archives -- which is much smaller and lowbrow > than the name suggests -- for having a happy but squealing > 2.5 yo. They asked me to make her keep it down. Yeah > right. It was 15 mins to closing time, I've gone there > and helped many others with reading small print with my > 34 year old eyes and experience, but hey, the kid has > to go. The hours aren't such that I can get there without > the kids. So that's why I prefer the 'Net. You can't > hear the kids, and it's 24/7 :-) > > --Amy > > > ==== NYHERKIM Mailing List ==== > Cyndi's List of Genealogy Sites: http://www.cyndislist.com/ > >

Michael-- You are right. None of these genealogy sites are any good to anyone whose family has not been done in some way or other. Most people do their side of a family and sometimes do not record all of the info for that family because it is not in their direct line. I am, personally, in the same quandary as you. No one has done my immediate family, or even alluded to it, so I have to work alone. The only info out there is that which I, myself, have placed in certain areas, or have given to cousins who have used it. The research is mine to do. I sympathize with you, as it is quite frustrating to hear all of this advertising as to finding any ancestors you may have, and upon looking, you find nothing at all. Sincerely, Jacqueline.

Here is some useful information that was posted on another mailing list at which time the author was no longer known. Dori ~~~~~~~~~~ NOTES ON USING THE IGI [courtesy of an unknown Northeast Roots researcher and PLACE user list] The International Genealogical IndexTM (IGI) is valuable source of data for your genealogical research. There are some things you should know and take into account when using these data. The purpose of the IGI is to record and co-ordinate the proxy Temple Ordinances completed for the ancestors of members of the LDS Church. The data contained in the IGI is primarily only that sufficient to qualify that individual for these ordinances and its accuracy is dependent upon the source of the data. Data for LDS members is not entered in the IGI other than for proxy ordinances until 110 years after birth or 95 years after marriage. The information in the IGI comes from three main sources: 1 - Extracted records. Half of the names have been extracted from civil and church christening, birth and marriage records. Death and burial records are usually not extracted.) 2 - Records submitted by Latter-day Saint members. Some names were submitted by members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints for temple ordinances. Some of this information came on Individual Entry Forms, Marriage Entry forms, and Family Group Records. This also includes information from selected temple records of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. 3 - Membership records. Some of the names are deceased members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Prior to using data from the IGI, the source should be identified and evaluated. The source of the data is found through the Batch Number. Associated with the Batch Number is found a Source Call number which in most cases is either a LDS Film number or a Library Book call number. IGI Batch numbers fall into five basic categories. Numbers beginning with: A, L, M17, M18, T0, T90, 69409 are Temple Records. Numbers beginning with: C, E, J, K, M (other than M17 & M18), P, T5, 725, 744, 745, 754 are Extracted Birth, Christening, or Marriage Records. Numbers beginning with F, T96, T998, T9990, and All-digit numbers such as 8434961 are Submitted forms (Family Group Record, Individual Entry, or Marriage Entry). Numbers beginning with H, 694, 6949405-6949426, 69407 are Latter-day Saint Deceased Membership records. Numbers beginning with T990, T9991, T696 are Forms submitted by the Medieval Family Unit of the Family History Dept. or Temple Dept. records. Some entries do not have a batch number but list only a film number. These films are located in the US/CAN microfilm collection in the Family History Library. Of all these sources, the extracted records are the most reliable. These are copied from the actual primary record and are subject to copy and entry errors otherwise should be accurate. These data could be accepted as being as accurate as the data contained in any published extraction such as those vital records volumes published by The Essex Institute and other publishers of this type data such as Savage, Hoyt, Bond, Goodwin, Noyes, Pope, Barbour, Bailey, and others. If you find duplicate names in the IGI use the one that lists a Batch number in this category. Most of the other listed sources must be checked for any listed bibliography included and then cross checked for accuracy. Most Family Group Sheets contain the absolute minimum in source references and also much of this data has been subject to poor interpretation, minimum evaluation, and a great deal of estimation, assumption, and guesswork. Accuracy is usually not very reliable and can vary greatly from one submitter to another. One should be careful and not enter these data into their database without extensive verification. The author of this information highly recommend you pick up a copy of the Research Outline "Finding an IGI Source" at the local Family History Center. There are also available Research Outlines on other aspects of the IGI as well as most other research topics. ------ name of author unknown-------- _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

> In the meantime -- back at the Ranch -- if you don't live > within walking distance of Herkimer County - the > FHC, used with sufficient wariness, is a place to start > when you've looked other places with zero results. True, true. But with two kids ages 9.5 and 2.5 it's tough tough to go. Just about got forcibly ejected from the State Archives -- which is much smaller and lowbrow than the name suggests -- for having a happy but squealing 2.5 yo. They asked me to make her keep it down. Yeah right. It was 15 mins to closing time, I've gone there and helped many others with reading small print with my 34 year old eyes and experience, but hey, the kid has to go. The hours aren't such that I can get there without the kids. So that's why I prefer the 'Net. You can't hear the kids, and it's 24/7 :-) --Amy

In the meantime -- back at the Ranch -- if you don't live within walking distance of Herkimer County - the FHC, used with sufficient wariness, is a place to start when you've looked other places with zero results. randy, Seattle, Washington ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judi Boniface" <herkimergenealogy@yahoo.com> To: <NYHERKIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 6:28 PM Subject: [NYHERKIM] Just a little information > It has been suggested here several times that people check > familysearch for births, marriages, etc. I would encourage people to > use those sources but then go back and look for original records, > there are just too many mistakes at familysearch to take what they > say verbatim, sometimes the information is just totally wrong. > > As to the suggestion that you try to obtain county histories from > Inter-Library loan, you will have better luck getting them from an > FHL library if they are available. Genealogy books are seldom loaned > out for obvious reasons, you can't replace them in many cases and if > they are being loaned out, they are not available to people who come > to the library to do research. > > The Herkimer County Historical Society has a web site at > www.rootsweb.com/~nyhchs with many family sketches listed, > unfortunately Reese is not one of them. The Society has a wealth of > information and should be considered one of the best sources for > Herkimer County genealogical information. > > Better yet, come here and visit and do your research in person! This > is a beautiful area to visit, we have some spectacular scenery and > you can always go looking for Herkimer Diamonds in your spare time. > Then take a tour of General Herkimer's Home, the Oriskany > Battlefield, the list is endless ... > > Here is another web site to check out > http://www.paulkeeslerbooks.com/ Paul is writing a new book about > the Mohawk Valley and you can follow the progress on his web site and > check out the other books he has already written. His photographs > will give you an idea of what you are missing. > > Judi Boniface > Herkimer, NY > herkimergenealogy@yahoo.com > > > > > > > > ==== NYHERKIM Mailing List ==== > Cyndi's List of Genealogy Sites: http://www.cyndislist.com/ > >

I'm sorry, randy, but I have. In fact, I've tried, in vain, to find anything on my ancestors at that site. I don't know why. I have searched using a variety of parameters, but to no avail. Unless I'm doing something wrong, I must conclude that my little-recorded family is just too obscure. Thanks for the comment, sir. Sincerely, Michael J. Miller ----- Original Message ----- From: "diefsea" <diefsea@email.msn.com> To: <NYHERKIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [NYHERKIM] New York State Census Help > Michael, me lad, you never tried to use the > familysearch website? > > http://www.familysearch.com > > Good luck. randy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael J. Miller" <mjmiller@uplink.net> > To: <NYHERKIM-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:35 AM > Subject: [NYHERKIM] New York State Census Help > > > > I rarely solicit help on a list but I'm stuck on the birthplace of my > g-g-g-grandparents. I can't travel to New York or any LDS FHC's anytime > soon to look this up myself in the 1855 & 1865 NY State Census. > > > > They were James and Almira Miller of Winfield, Herkimer Co, NY. > > > > All the census records are ambiguous for James, to say the least. One > year it's NY & CT, then CT & CT, then another says VT & CT. I'm pretty > sure Almira Harrington was born in CT, but for James, I don't know. I > thought, that because the state census asks for the NY county of birth, > more attention would have been given to accuracy because of this added > detail if he were born in NY. > > > > If anyone has access to these, I sure would appreciate a look. > > > > Sincerely, > > Michael J. Miller > > > > > > > > ==== NYHERKIM Mailing List ==== > > Cyndi's List of Genealogy Sites: http://www.cyndislist.com/ > > > > > > > ==== NYHERKIM Mailing List ==== > Visit the New York State GenWeb site at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenweb/ > Herkimer County: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyherkim/ >

Amy, In the 1925 Herkimer County directory, there is a David Reese listed in Frankfort listed as a farmer, living on Reese Rd. It also says that he has a wife named Rose. Just as a side note, Reese Rd. is still there today and Reese Rd School is on it. Hope this helps some. Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amy Rupp" <amyr@jump.net> To: <NYHERKIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 3:57 PM Subject: [NYHERKIM] REESE in Herkimer County > For the record, I have visited the Family Search archives as well as > every free and paid site out there! :-) > > I am seeking information on the children of John and Elinor Reese, > who emigrated from Carmarthagenshire, Wales, to the United States > in 1806. They settled and lived their lives in Oneida County, specifically > Marcy toward the end of their days, but their son David moved to Frankfort, > Herkimer County, and his descendants' trail ends there for me. > > David REES(E) was born ca 1789 in Wales and died between 1870 and 1880, > very likely in Frankfort, Herkimer County, New York. He was a farmer. > He married a Nancy ? born 1798 in Connecticut but would have married in > either Oneida or Herkimer Counties. She died between 1860 and 1870. > They had two known children: > > John B. REESE born November 1828 > Mary A. REESE born 1836 > > Mary was present, aged 14, in the 1850 Census, but not in the 1860 Census, > when she would have been aged 24. I have no information on death or marriage. > > John B. REESE lived past the 1900 Census in Frankfort; he married a Louisa ? > born January 1838 in New York, with parents born in New York. They were > married between June 1859 and June 1960 because the Census year finds them > married within the past year. They had two children, of which both were > living at the time of the 1900 Census according to Louisa. They were: > > David REESE born December 1860 > Ella K. REESE born 1873 > > Ella must have married by 1900 when she was 27, because she was not living with > her parents, yet her mother said she was alive. > > David married first a Sarah Anderson, born about 1870, died after 1891 in > Frankfort, Herkimer County. They had a daughter: > > Carrie REESE (Caroline?) born 23 September 1891 died 1989 in Frankfort > married 5 Jan 1916 to Pattison Seedon Hall. I have no children for them, > though I believe there are some living. Apparently she may have conflicted > with her stepmother, as she was double enumerated in the 1900 Census as > living with both her parents and her paternal grandparents. Of interest > is the fact that her paternal grandparents were exactly correct with her > month and year of birth, whereas her father and/or step-mother were several > years off. > > David remarried about 1892 to a Mattie, born May 1867 in Canada. The 1900 > Census indicated that she had borne two children, of which one was Stella > Rosabiro born in New York aged 10, and the other was > > David REESE born July 1893. I have no further information on him other than > there is a David Reese listed in a 1917 Frankfort business directory as a > "farmer florist" but it does not say whether it is David Sr. or Jr. In 1920, > David was possibly living with Walter W. and Sarah Daley (sp)? on Litchfield > Road, where he is listed as a *son* (not stepson) despite having a completely > different last name, and the fact that the information on Sarah and Mattie > does not match Sarah's in any way. He is a carpenter. > > The closest SSDI match I could find was: > > born 13 Jul 1894 d. Aug 1893 in Clark County, Wisconsin, with his SSN issued > in Wisconsin. There are other David Reeses born in 1890 but none had their > SSNs issued or died in New York. > > Any help would be vastly appreciated. To sum: > > David REESE b. 1786 Wales d. after 1870 Frankfort > m. Nancy ? b. 1798 New York d. 1860-1870 Frankfort married between 1820-1828 > > 1) John B. REESE b. November 1828 d. after 1900 Frankfort > m. Louisa ? b. Jan 1838 d. after 1900 Frankfort m. between June 1859-1860 > 2) Mary A. REESE b. 1936 married or died before 1860 > > Children of 1) were: > > 1)a. David REESE b. December 1860 d. after 1900 > m. first Sarah Anderson b. abt. 1870 died after 1891 Frankfort > m. second Mattie ? (married name Rosabino?) b. May 1867 in Canada > to English born parents) m. abt 1892 d. after 1900 > 1)b Ella K. REESE b. 1863 married before 1900 > > Child of 1)a)1 was: > > 1)a)1 Carrie b. 23 Sept 1891 d. 1989 m. > Pattison Seedon Hall b. abt 1890 in England; married 5 Jan 1916 in Frankfort > 1)a)2 David b. Jul 1893 > > 1)a)1 Carried had several children, some of whom might be living; I do not know what has become of David. > > Any help greatly appreciated... eg marriages or cemetery descriptions would > be very helpful. > > Thank you! > > Amy Rupp > > > ==== NYHERKIM Mailing List ==== > UNSUBSCRIBE? Send the message UNSUBSCRIBE to: > NYHERKIM-L-request@rootsweb.com or .... > NYHERKIM-D-request@rootsweb.com for DIGEST >

It has been suggested here several times that people check familysearch for births, marriages, etc. I would encourage people to use those sources but then go back and look for original records, there are just too many mistakes at familysearch to take what they say verbatim, sometimes the information is just totally wrong. As to the suggestion that you try to obtain county histories from Inter-Library loan, you will have better luck getting them from an FHL library if they are available. Genealogy books are seldom loaned out for obvious reasons, you can't replace them in many cases and if they are being loaned out, they are not available to people who come to the library to do research. The Herkimer County Historical Society has a web site at www.rootsweb.com/~nyhchs with many family sketches listed, unfortunately Reese is not one of them. The Society has a wealth of information and should be considered one of the best sources for Herkimer County genealogical information. Better yet, come here and visit and do your research in person! This is a beautiful area to visit, we have some spectacular scenery and you can always go looking for Herkimer Diamonds in your spare time. Then take a tour of General Herkimer's Home, the Oriskany Battlefield, the list is endless ... Here is another web site to check out http://www.paulkeeslerbooks.com/ Paul is writing a new book about the Mohawk Valley and you can follow the progress on his web site and check out the other books he has already written. His photographs will give you an idea of what you are missing. Judi Boniface Herkimer, NY herkimergenealogy@yahoo.com

Gee, Amy, you did such a great job giving details I just have to ask this simple. innocent question: Did you see if are genealogical data of the REESE members you seek in a County History? About 1890-1920 there were a quantity of County Histories published. The histories usually contained a lot of genealogical data of early settlers IN the county. If you haven't done this, go to your local library and ask them to ask via the Interlibrary Loan Service to obtain such volumes. I presume that although you have gone to a Mormon Church Family History Center, they don't have any records of births of the REESEs from the Auld Sod. Beware that REESE is the consistent way the surname was spelled. For parents of some of these persons, IF they died after about 1895, there is a chance you could find the parents of these persons on a death certificate. I realize these persons you may have such data. my best, randy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amy Rupp" <amyr@jump.net> To: <NYHERKIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 12:57 PM Subject: [NYHERKIM] REESE in Herkimer County > For the record, I have visited the Family Search archives as well as every free and paid site out there! :-) > > I am seeking information on the children of John and Elinor Reese, > who emigrated from Carmarthagenshire, Wales, to the United States > in 1806. They settled and lived their lives in Oneida County, specifically > Marcy toward the end of their days, but their son David moved to Frankfort, > Herkimer County, and his descendants' trail ends there for me. > > David REES(E) was born ca 1789 in Wales and died between 1870 and 1880, > very likely in Frankfort, Herkimer County, New York. He was a farmer. > He married a Nancy ? born 1798 in Connecticut but would have married in > either Oneida or Herkimer Counties. She died between 1860 and 1870. > They had two known children: > > John B. REESE born November 1828 > Mary A. REESE born 1836 > > Mary was present, aged 14, in the 1850 Census, but not in the 1860 Census, > when she would have been aged 24. I have no information on death or marriage. > > John B. REESE lived past the 1900 Census in Frankfort; he married a Louisa ? > born January 1838 in New York, with parents born in New York. They were > married between June 1859 and June 1960 because the Census year finds them > married within the past year. They had two children, of which both were > living at the time of the 1900 Census according to Louisa. They were: > > David REESE born December 1860 > Ella K. REESE born 1873 > > Ella must have married by 1900 when she was 27, because she was not living with > her parents, yet her mother said she was alive. > > David married first a Sarah Anderson, born about 1870, died after 1891 in > Frankfort, Herkimer County. They had a daughter: > > Carrie REESE (Caroline?) born 23 September 1891 died 1989 in Frankfort > married 5 Jan 1916 to Pattison Seedon Hall. I have no children for them, > though I believe there are some living. Apparently she may have conflicted > with her stepmother, as she was double enumerated in the 1900 Census as > living with both her parents and her paternal grandparents. Of interest > is the fact that her paternal grandparents were exactly correct with her > month and year of birth, whereas her father and/or step-mother were several > years off. > > David remarried about 1892 to a Mattie, born May 1867 in Canada. The 1900 > Census indicated that she had borne two children, of which one was Stella > Rosabiro born in New York aged 10, and the other was > > David REESE born July 1893. I have no further information on him other than > there is a David Reese listed in a 1917 Frankfort business directory as a > "farmer florist" but it does not say whether it is David Sr. or Jr. In 1920, > David was possibly living with Walter W. and Sarah Daley (sp)? on Litchfield > Road, where he is listed as a *son* (not stepson) despite having a completely > different last name, and the fact that the information on Sarah and Mattie > does not match Sarah's in any way. He is a carpenter. > > The closest SSDI match I could find was: > > born 13 Jul 1894 d. Aug 1893 in Clark County, Wisconsin, with his SSN issued > in Wisconsin. There are other David Reeses born in 1890 but none had their > SSNs issued or died in New York. > > Any help would be vastly appreciated. To sum: > > David REESE b. 1786 Wales d. after 1870 Frankfort > m. Nancy ? b. 1798 New York d. 1860-1870 Frankfort married between 1820-1828 > > 1) John B. REESE b. November 1828 d. after 1900 Frankfort > m. Louisa ? b. Jan 1838 d. after 1900 Frankfort m. between June 1859-1860 > 2) Mary A. REESE b. 1936 married or died before 1860 > > Children of 1) were: > > 1)a. David REESE b. December 1860 d. after 1900 > m. first Sarah Anderson b. abt. 1870 died after 1891 Frankfort > m. second Mattie ? (married name Rosabino?) b. May 1867 in Canada > to English born parents) m. abt 1892 d. after 1900 > 1)b Ella K. REESE b. 1863 married before 1900 > > Child of 1)a)1 was: > > 1)a)1 Carrie b. 23 Sept 1891 d. 1989 m. > Pattison Seedon Hall b. abt 1890 in England; married 5 Jan 1916 in Frankfort > 1)a)2 David b. Jul 1893 > > 1)a)1 Carried had several children, some of whom might be living; I do not know what has become of David. > > Any help greatly appreciated... eg marriages or cemetery descriptions would > be very helpful. > > Thank you! > > Amy Rupp > > > ==== NYHERKIM Mailing List ==== > UNSUBSCRIBE? 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Hi Michael, I am doing 1855 Oneida County right now, if you don't get your answer from someone within a month, send me a private e-mail, and I will look it up when I get to the 1855 census for Herkimer County, as I will be looking in Winfield for my relatives. Sally On Thu, 18 Apr 2002 13:35:53 -0400 "Michael J. Miller" <mjmiller@uplink.net> writes: > I rarely solicit help on a list but I'm stuck on the birthplace of my > g-g-g-grandparents. I can't travel to New York or any LDS FHC's > anytime soon to look this up myself in the 1855 & 1865 NY State > Census. > > They were James and Almira Miller of Winfield, Herkimer Co, NY. > > All the census records are ambiguous for James, to say the least. > One year it's NY & CT, then CT & CT, then another says VT & CT. > I'm pretty sure Almira Harrington was born in CT, but for James, I > don't know. I thought, that because the state census asks for the > NY county of birth, more attention would have been given to > accuracy because of this added detail if he were born in NY. > > If anyone has access to these, I sure would appreciate a look. > > Sincerely, > Michael J. Miller > > > > ==== NYHERKIM Mailing List ==== > Cyndi's List of Genealogy Sites: http://www.cyndislist.com/ > >

For the record, I have visited the Family Search archives as well as every free and paid site out there! :-) I am seeking information on the children of John and Elinor Reese, who emigrated from Carmarthagenshire, Wales, to the United States in 1806. They settled and lived their lives in Oneida County, specifically Marcy toward the end of their days, but their son David moved to Frankfort, Herkimer County, and his descendants' trail ends there for me. David REES(E) was born ca 1789 in Wales and died between 1870 and 1880, very likely in Frankfort, Herkimer County, New York. He was a farmer. He married a Nancy ? born 1798 in Connecticut but would have married in either Oneida or Herkimer Counties. She died between 1860 and 1870. They had two known children: John B. REESE born November 1828 Mary A. REESE born 1836 Mary was present, aged 14, in the 1850 Census, but not in the 1860 Census, when she would have been aged 24. I have no information on death or marriage. John B. REESE lived past the 1900 Census in Frankfort; he married a Louisa ? born January 1838 in New York, with parents born in New York. They were married between June 1859 and June 1960 because the Census year finds them married within the past year. They had two children, of which both were living at the time of the 1900 Census according to Louisa. They were: David REESE born December 1860 Ella K. REESE born 1873 Ella must have married by 1900 when she was 27, because she was not living with her parents, yet her mother said she was alive. David married first a Sarah Anderson, born about 1870, died after 1891 in Frankfort, Herkimer County. They had a daughter: Carrie REESE (Caroline?) born 23 September 1891 died 1989 in Frankfort married 5 Jan 1916 to Pattison Seedon Hall. I have no children for them, though I believe there are some living. Apparently she may have conflicted with her stepmother, as she was double enumerated in the 1900 Census as living with both her parents and her paternal grandparents. Of interest is the fact that her paternal grandparents were exactly correct with her month and year of birth, whereas her father and/or step-mother were several years off. David remarried about 1892 to a Mattie, born May 1867 in Canada. The 1900 Census indicated that she had borne two children, of which one was Stella Rosabiro born in New York aged 10, and the other was David REESE born July 1893. I have no further information on him other than there is a David Reese listed in a 1917 Frankfort business directory as a "farmer florist" but it does not say whether it is David Sr. or Jr. In 1920, David was possibly living with Walter W. and Sarah Daley (sp)? on Litchfield Road, where he is listed as a *son* (not stepson) despite having a completely different last name, and the fact that the information on Sarah and Mattie does not match Sarah's in any way. He is a carpenter. The closest SSDI match I could find was: born 13 Jul 1894 d. Aug 1893 in Clark County, Wisconsin, with his SSN issued in Wisconsin. There are other David Reeses born in 1890 but none had their SSNs issued or died in New York. Any help would be vastly appreciated. To sum: David REESE b. 1786 Wales d. after 1870 Frankfort m. Nancy ? b. 1798 New York d. 1860-1870 Frankfort married between 1820-1828 1) John B. REESE b. November 1828 d. after 1900 Frankfort m. Louisa ? b. Jan 1838 d. after 1900 Frankfort m. between June 1859-1860 2) Mary A. REESE b. 1936 married or died before 1860 Children of 1) were: 1)a. David REESE b. December 1860 d. after 1900 m. first Sarah Anderson b. abt. 1870 died after 1891 Frankfort m. second Mattie ? (married name Rosabino?) b. May 1867 in Canada to English born parents) m. abt 1892 d. after 1900 1)b Ella K. REESE b. 1863 married before 1900 Child of 1)a)1 was: 1)a)1 Carrie b. 23 Sept 1891 d. 1989 m. Pattison Seedon Hall b. abt 1890 in England; married 5 Jan 1916 in Frankfort 1)a)2 David b. Jul 1893 1)a)1 Carried had several children, some of whom might be living; I do not know what has become of David. Any help greatly appreciated... eg marriages or cemetery descriptions would be very helpful. Thank you! Amy Rupp

Can anyone find out for me if Robert Leslie BARNHART married Fannie ZURLINDEN of Little Falls, IN Little Falls, in approx. 1884? I really need to know this. The Zurlindens did live in Little Falls, but Barnhart's came from Pittsburgh, PA. Thank you, Robert D. Mollenauer, Jr. Ridgecrest, CA

I rarely solicit help on a list but I'm stuck on the birthplace of my g-g-g-grandparents. I can't travel to New York or any LDS FHC's anytime soon to look this up myself in the 1855 & 1865 NY State Census. They were James and Almira Miller of Winfield, Herkimer Co, NY. All the census records are ambiguous for James, to say the least. One year it's NY & CT, then CT & CT, then another says VT & CT. I'm pretty sure Almira Harrington was born in CT, but for James, I don't know. I thought, that because the state census asks for the NY county of birth, more attention would have been given to accuracy because of this added detail if he were born in NY. If anyone has access to these, I sure would appreciate a look. Sincerely, Michael J. Miller

Michael, me lad, you never tried to use the familysearch website? http://www.familysearch.com Good luck. randy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael J. Miller" <mjmiller@uplink.net> To: <NYHERKIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:35 AM Subject: [NYHERKIM] New York State Census Help > I rarely solicit help on a list but I'm stuck on the birthplace of my g-g-g-grandparents. I can't travel to New York or any LDS FHC's anytime soon to look this up myself in the 1855 & 1865 NY State Census. > > They were James and Almira Miller of Winfield, Herkimer Co, NY. > > All the census records are ambiguous for James, to say the least. One year it's NY & CT, then CT & CT, then another says VT & CT. I'm pretty sure Almira Harrington was born in CT, but for James, I don't know. I thought, that because the state census asks for the NY county of birth, more attention would have been given to accuracy because of this added detail if he were born in NY. > > If anyone has access to these, I sure would appreciate a look. > > Sincerely, > Michael J. Miller > > > > ==== NYHERKIM Mailing List ==== > Cyndi's List of Genealogy Sites: http://www.cyndislist.com/ > >