That's wonderful! Thank you so much! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randall A. Diefendorf" <diefsea@msn.com> To: <NYHERKIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [NYHERKIM] Jacob Young > YOUNG (JUNG) FAMILY, by Clifford M. Young, p. 142 shows pedigree, > notes Daniel YOUNG m. Katherine CASWELL, "lived in Orleans County, NY." > Daniel I. Young, b. 1797 - (p.137) parents Jacob A. (1755-1833) and Eve (Kniskern) (1756-1829). > > How's that for a boost ? > randy diefendorf > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Amy Albers > Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 5:01 AM > To: NYHERKIM-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NYHERKIM] Jacob Young > > Looking for leads on Jacob Young. His son, Daniel, was born in Herkimer in 1791 and later moved to Orleans County. The earliest he is on the census there is 1840 and then I lose track of him. He was married to Catherine Caswell. I know through tombstone info in Orleans that his father was Jacob, but it doesn't tell me a mother's name. Any leads out there? > > > ==== NYHERKIM Mailing List ==== > Visit the Herkimer County GenWeb page at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyherkim/ > > ______________________________

Randy - thank you so much for the lead I'll try it - Dot

Hello - I am new to this particular mailing list and was hoping someone could help me put a dent in a brick wall I have. My great great grandfather was Joseph Stewart b. abt 1800 in Warren, Herkimer Co. NY. His father is said to have been a John Stewart who with 5 brothers were among the first settlers of Ft. Warren New York, and were all in the War of 1812, in which two of them lost their lives - sorry no names are known. Joseph Stewart married Betsey Souls (d/o William Souls & Deborah ____), b. 1818, Schoharie Co. NY, d. 1848, Truxton, Cortland Co., NY (shortly after my great grandfather was born). If anything looks remotely connected please let me know - as I know nothing about Joseph's parents or siblings - and would really like to know. Dot Dotsipe@aol.com

Dot, here is the best I can offer for a trial. http://www.familysearch.com This site is vast, somewhat reliable, but may surprise you to give you some help. O, and costs nothing, and won't put you on a list for spam. randy ----- Original Message ----- From: Dotsipe@aol.com Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 1:31 PM To: NYHERKIM-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYHERKIM] Stewarts of Herkimer Co. NY Hello - I am new to this particular mailing list and was hoping someone could help me put a dent in a brick wall I have. My great great grandfather was Joseph Stewart b. abt 1800 in Warren, Herkimer Co. NY. His father is said to have been a John Stewart who with 5 brothers were among the first settlers of Ft. Warren New York, and were all in the War of 1812, in which two of them lost their lives - sorry no names are known. Joseph Stewart married Betsey Souls (d/o William Souls & Deborah ____), b. 1818, Schoharie Co. NY, d. 1848, Truxton, Cortland Co., NY (shortly after my great grandfather was born). If anything looks remotely connected please let me know - as I know nothing about Joseph's parents or siblings - and would really like to know. Dot Dotsipe@aol.com ==== NYHERKIM Mailing List ==== Cyndi's List of Genealogy Sites: http://www.cyndislist.com/

YOUNG (JUNG) FAMILY, by Clifford M. Young, p. 142 shows pedigree, notes Daniel YOUNG m. Katherine CASWELL, "lived in Orleans County, NY." Daniel I. Young, b. 1797 - (p.137) parents Jacob A. (1755-1833) and Eve (Kniskern) (1756-1829). How's that for a boost ? randy diefendorf ----- Original Message ----- From: Amy Albers Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 5:01 AM To: NYHERKIM-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYHERKIM] Jacob Young Looking for leads on Jacob Young. His son, Daniel, was born in Herkimer in 1791 and later moved to Orleans County. The earliest he is on the census there is 1840 and then I lose track of him. He was married to Catherine Caswell. I know through tombstone info in Orleans that his father was Jacob, but it doesn't tell me a mother's name. Any leads out there? ==== NYHERKIM Mailing List ==== Visit the Herkimer County GenWeb page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyherkim/

Looking for leads on Jacob Young. His son, Daniel, was born in Herkimer in 1791 and later moved to Orleans County. The earliest he is on the census there is 1840 and then I lose track of him. He was married to Catherine Caswell. I know through tombstone info in Orleans that his father was Jacob, but it doesn't tell me a mother's name. Any leads out there?

Regarding post by POLHEMJF: I've searched in vain for John and Persis Shaw in this county during this time period and have found only one thing...a deed...1823...with their names and the names of George Monroe and wife. I am very interested in knowing more general information like this, in hopes of finding clues that will lead me to knowing more about my ancestors. If anyone has this information, please post it for all. POLHEMJF@aol.com wrote: > Russia, in the 1810-1830 time period, received many families from Dutchess > County,NY. Many of these were from the Town of Dover, including Philleo, > Rust, Agard, Roberts and Wolcott families. I am interested in knowing more > about their early days in Russia, such as land purchases. What is the county > seat for Herkimer, where the early deeds and mortgages hopefully reside? > This group included two Revolutionary War pensioners, Enoch Philleo and > Abel Rust. Enoch is said to have died "in the cornfield at Russia", but no > date is available. > This group, through intermarriage, is one large extended family. Is there > anyone else interested in these families? > > ==== NYHERKIM Mailing List ==== > Visit the Herkimer County GenWeb page at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyherkim/

Here is another bio from the Rock County Wis mail list. Hope it helps someone! Mel >From Portrait and Biographical Album of Rock County, Wisconsin, publ. 1889 - page 289-290 GEORGE A. AUSTIN, a representative and progressive farmer of Magnolia Township, and one of its self-made men, has been a resident of Rock County since the month of May, 1855, and has been identified with the upbuilding and promotion of the leading interests of the community. He was born in Frankfort, Herkimer, Co., N.Y., May 27, 1828, and his parents, Henry and Margaret (LEE) AUSTIN, there resided for many years. They were natives of Rhode Island, however, and descended from English ancestry. The AUSTIN family was founded in America by three brothers who emigrated from England to this country during the early colonial days. Henry AUSTIN, on arriving at man's estate, was united in marriage, in Herkimer County, N.Y., with Miss Margaret LEE. He was born at Schuyler, Feb. 2, 1802, and is yet residing in Frankfort, at the ripe old age of eighty-seven years. His wife, who was born at Frankfort in 1804, died at that place on the 5th day of November, 1876. For many years he w! as a member of the Methodist Episcopal Church, to which Mr. AUSTIN also belongs. They were the parents of twelve children, eight sons and four daughters, all born in Herkimer County - James E. is now station agent in Rupert, Vt.; Elizabeth is the wife of George CURTIS, who served in the rebellion in the 146th New York Infantry, and is now a resident of Rome, N.Y.; George H., of this sketch, is the third in order of birth; Freeborn L., who served in the late war in the 11th Regiment - Wisconsin Infantry, is a resident farmer of Lyon County, Minn.; Charles S. is living in Cattaraugus County, N.Y.; Alpheus B., who was in government employ during the late war as wagonmaster, and was for many years a merchant, died about the year 1880; Helen L., who became the wife of Peter DEDRICK, Jr., and died in Magnolia, July 16, 1857, leaving a daughter, Ella L., who is now a resident of Utica, N.Y.; Margaret A., widow of Abram BARNES, makes her home with our subject; Lucius, who served a ! member of Bates' Battery in the late war, is living on the old homestead near Frankfort, N.Y., which has been in possession of the AUSTIN family for fifty-one years; William S., who was also a member of Bates' Battery, is a resident of Evansville, Wis.; Nancy J. is the wife of James HULSER of Utica, N.Y.; Stephen T., of Company D., 121st New York Infantry, died in the capital city of our nation while serving in the late war. Ezekiel CHAPMAN, the great-great-grandfather of Mr. AUSTIN, was a manufacturer of firearms for the Government at the time of the Revolutionary War, and was the first man in America to discover the art of molding cast steel. Freeborn AUSTIN, the grandfather of our subject, served as a soldier in the War of 1812. Margaret LEE was descended from English ancestors, who settled in America in colonial days, and was a distant relative of Robert E. LEE, the distinguished Confederate General. George H. AUSTIN was educated in his native county, where he made his home until 1854. During early life he engaged in boating on the Erie Canal from Buffalo to New York City, following this occupation until the year above mentioned, when desiring to turn his attention to agricultural pursuits, he followed the course of human emigration westward, and located in Rock County, Wis., where he rented a farm on section 14, in the town of Magnolia. In connection with the care of the farm, he also worked at the carpenter's trade. Returning to his home in New York, in the month of December, 1855, Mr. AUSTIN spent the winter in his native county, and on the 20th day of February, 1856, married Miss Maria BURTON, who was born in Utica, Oneida County, March 8, 1831. Her parents, Lakford and Mary (WELSTEAD) BURTON, were natives of Kent County, England, and emigrated to this country about 1830, and became residents of Rock County in 1860. Mr. BURTON now makes his home with Mr. and Mr! s. AUSTIN, and though in his eightieth year, is still hale and hearty. His wife was called to her final rest Sept. 10, 1879, at the advanced age of eighty-one years. By the union of our subject and his wife one child has been born, Henry L., born in Magnolia, July 24, 1860. He has received the best educational advantages thereby fitting himself in life for any position which he might be called upon to fill, but he now resides with his parents on the farm. In March, 1856, Mr. AUSTIN with his young bride returned to Rock County, renting a farm of eighty acres on section 14, Magnolia Township, of which he is now the owner. The home is a model of neatness, and the entire surroundings indicate thrift and refinement. For many years he has filled various township offices, to which he has been elected by the Republican party, of which organization he is a faithful adherent. In the work of reform, and in the advancement of social and religious interests he has always been found in the front ranks. He is heartily in sympathy with the temperance movement, never using spirituous liquors in any form, but doing all in his power to prevent the us! e and manufacture of intoxicating drinks by others for many years he has been a member of the Good Templars Lodge, an organization for the promotion of temperance principles. His influence and support are always given on the side of right, and his honorable, upright life is well worthy of emulation. Honored and respected he is held in the highest esteem by all, and his history deserves a prominent place in the permanent record of Rock County.

Paul, I checked the article by Johni Cerny et. al., "Research in Military Records," in Loretto D. Szucs and Sandra H. Luebking, THE SOURCE: A Guidebook of American Genealogy, Revised Edition, (Salt Lake City: Ancestry, Inc., 1997) p. 289, for suggestions on finding records of Loyalist and German-auxiliary soldiers who fought with British forces in the American Revolution. The authors imply, without directly stating, that records of Loyalist and German-auxiliary Revolutionary War soldiers are not in the National Archives. However the authors do offer a list of other sources which may have useful info. If you don't already own one, I'd recommend you find a copy of THE SOURCE, which is in many libraries and available through Interlibrary Loan. Here's what the book has to offer on the subject (p. 290, col. 2): "The British forces were also augmented by a large contingent of German auxiliaries imported to America to help suppress the rebellion... Perhaps as many as 7,000 of the nearly 32,000 German auxiliary troops remained in North America. "There are many printed works of genealogical value pertaining to Loyalists and German auxiliary troops in the American Revolution. Consult the relevant bibliographies at the end of this chapter." On page 327 is a bibliographic section titled, "German Auxilliary Troops in the Revolutionary War". It lists 17 works. Perhaps one or more of them will prove helpful. Good luck! Daniel Barron, Oakland CA ----Original Message Follows---- From: NYHERKIM-D-request@rootsweb.com Reply-To: NYHERKIM-L@rootsweb.com To: NYHERKIM-D@rootsweb.com Subject: NYHERKIM-D Digest V02 #81 Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 08:22:07 -0600 Henry -- National Archives may help - athougth their service per months taken to reply is low still an awful drag. randy ----- Original Message ----- From: Sunysa@aol.com Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 12:52 PM To: NYHERKIM-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYHERKIM] Henry Hose I am seeking information on my ancestor, Henry Hose, who supposedly served in the American Revolution, and was buried in Snell's Bush Cemetery near Manheim, NY. This is what I've found on him: Henry Burkdorff and Henry Hose came to America as British soldiers with General Burgoyne. Neither of them returned to their mother country. Source: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyfulton/Military/heroes.html Hose ( spelled Hase), Henry died June 27, 1832 age 75-6 Hessian Revolutionary soldier ( this stone was recorded in 1932 & 1963 and was still to be seen in the 1970s but no longer found in 1982) Source: http://www.szt-genealogy.org/cemetery.htm Would anyone know anything more about him? His Revolutionary War service? Any help is much appreciated. Sincerely, Paul Horvat, Albuquerque, NM _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

Henry -- National Archives may help - athougth their service per months taken to reply is low still an awful drag. randy ----- Original Message ----- From: Sunysa@aol.com Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 12:52 PM To: NYHERKIM-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYHERKIM] Henry Hose I am seeking information on my ancestor, Henry Hose, who supposedly served in the American Revolution, and was buried in Snell's Bush Cemetery near Manheim, NY. This is what I've found on him: Henry Burkdorff and Henry Hose came to America as British soldiers with General Burgoyne. Neither of them returned to their mother country. Source: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyfulton/Military/heroes.html Hose ( spelled Hase), Henry died June 27, 1832 age 75-6 Hessian Revolutionary soldier ( this stone was recorded in 1932 & 1963 and was still to be seen in the 1970s but no longer found in 1982) Source: http://www.szt-genealogy.org/cemetery.htm Would anyone know anything more about him? His Revolutionary War service? Any help is much appreciated. Sincerely, Paul Horvat, Albuquerque, NM ==== NYHERKIM Mailing List ==== QUESTIONS? Contact listowner Kim Branagan at branagak@twcny.rr.com, a proud Donor of RootsWeb.com.

Yes, that's the one. When someone was copying things, later people read it as Hase so we don't even have a date of death for our Henry. And they were both in the Revolutionary war. We have found no marker for either person.

In a message dated Thu, 15 Aug 2002 6:07:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, jettrink@one.net writes: > > > There is a great confusiion concerning Henry Hose and my ancestor Henry > Hase. > We don't know where our ancestor is buried either because > of so many > mistakes > concerning these two people. > > > ==== NYHERKIM Mailing List ==== > Visit the Herkimer County GenWeb page at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyherkim/ Just so there is no confusion, the Henry Hose I'm talking about is the one born Dec., 1756, and died June 27, 1832 who married Margaret Snell, daughter of Joseph Frederick Snell and Maria Sophia Lepper. According to John Merz of the Hessian Rootsweb website: I think I did identify Henry Hase/Hose as a Hessen-Kassel soldier by the name of Heinrich Haust who was taken prisoner at Trenton, N.J. on 26. Dec. 1776. There were some Brunswick soldiers by the name of HAASE, gut their first names were Anton, Christoph, Georg, and Ludwig. No Heinrich/Henry between them. BTW. the other one you named, Henry Burkdorff, was a Brunswick soldier, Heinrich Burgdorf, from the village of Burgdorf near Braunschweig. This is what throws me off track, three of the 'Haase' came also from Braunschweig, while one (Georg) came from Hessen. Perhaps somebody can sort that out. Any further information on Henry Hose or his military service would be appreciated. Also, does anyone have a photograph of the original gravestone that was in Snell's Bush Cemetery? Thanks again, Paul Horvat

There is a great confusiion concerning Henry Hose and my ancestor Henry Hase. We don't know where our ancestor is buried either because of so many mistakes concerning these two people.

I am seeking information on my ancestor, Henry Hose, who supposedly served in the American Revolution, and was buried in Snell's Bush Cemetery near Manheim, NY. This is what I've found on him: Henry Burkdorff and Henry Hose came to America as British soldiers with General Burgoyne. Neither of them returned to their mother country. Source: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyfulton/Military/heroes.html Hose ( spelled Hase), Henry died June 27, 1832 age 75-6 Hessian Revolutionary soldier ( this stone was recorded in 1932 & 1963 and was still to be seen in the 1970s but no longer found in 1982) Source: http://www.szt-genealogy.org/cemetery.htm Would anyone know anything more about him? His Revolutionary War service? Any help is much appreciated. Sincerely, Paul Horvat, Albuquerque, NM

Hello List, My husband and I took a lovely drive to the south of Herkimer County yesterday to find my ancestor's original homestead. We used the map of the area created in the 1860's. We found the homestead of my ancestor, Jacob Fikes, on Peacock Hill as shown on the map. The road was then called Fike Road, now it is called Sickler Road. Nothing there now but rolling fields. There used to be several farm homes and barns, owned by family members, a cheese factory, school, and hop sheds. My question is: why was the area called Peacock Hill? Is it still called Peacock Hill? The countryside there is absolutely breathtaking. What a great place to live. Thanks! Lida Fikes Perfetto

From the Rock County Wisconsin mail list. Thought someone might be looking for info on SPENCER and DYE. >From Commemorative Biographical Record of the Counties of Rock, Green, Grant, Iowa and Lafayette, Wisconsin, publ. 1901 - page 763-764 JOHN C. SPENCER, of Janesville, Rock County, was born in the village of Little Falls, Herkimer Co., N.Y., May 17, 1838, the third son of A. C. and Lucina (DYE) SPENCER. The father was a native of Vermont, and of English descent; the mother was born in Cattaraugus County, N.Y., and came of Irish ancestry. In the autumn of 1845 our subject came with his parents to Danville, Ill., where his father followed the profession of school teacher. Later the family moved to Covington, Ind., and from there to Bloomington, Ill., in December, 1852, coming to Janesville. John C. SPENCER obtained the greater part of his education, which was somewhat limited, in the private schools of that early day. In the winter of 1849 he attended the school at Covington, the first term of the free public schools in Indiana. In his earlier boyhood he was employed during the summer in herding sheep and cattle on the Illinois prairies. In the summer of 1852 the young man drove team, hauling earth in the construction of the Illinois Central railroad, between Bloomington and Randolph Grove, and also north of Bloomington to the present site of Normal. He also drove one of the ox-teams (four yoke) employed in breaking the ground for the Phoenix nursery at Bloomington. The same year he secured employment with the Janesville Gazette, to carry papers one day each week; the newspaper was owned at that time by Levi ALDEN and Charles HOLT. In March, 1853, he entered the office to learn the printing trade, and with the exception of January and February, 1854, was ! constantly employed there for many years, filling in turn every mechanical position in the establishment. In 1877 he took charge of the local department of the Gazette as city editor, continuing in this position until 1896. At the formation of the Janesville fire department, in 1855, Mr. SPENCER was appointed torch boy of Water Witch No. 2, and had George PECK, afterward governor of the State, as his associate. He is still a member of that organization, having filled every official position in his company, and was secretary of the department for twelve years; assistant chief engineer for two years, and in 1885-86 chief of the department. He was assistant chief until 1892, when he was appointed chief engineer by Mayor ROWE, and holds that office to the present time. Many changes and much reorganization have taken place in the department during Mr. SPENCER's connection with it, each move advancing its efficiency, and many of these innovations have been brought about by Chief SPENCER, until at the present time the city of Janesville can take great pride in the possession of one of the very best fire departments in the West. No city of the same size can present a superior equipment or a better ! fire record. Mr. SPENCER is frequently appealed to for information regarding the history of Janesville and Rock County, so well versed is he in its every detail. Socially our subject belongs to the A.F. & A.M. and the I.O.O.F, and politically he is an outspoken Republican, though he never allows his politics to cause estrangements from his friends. Mr. SPENCER and Miss Helen M. BROWN, a native of Portage, Wis., and a daughter of the late Daniel G. BROWN, of Janesville, were united in marriage Oct. 30, 1870. This union has been blessed with six children: Marion E., born Aug. 28, 1871; Clara, Feb. 6, 1874; Llewellyn R., Jan. 30, 1882; Jessie, Nov. 13, 1884; Harrison M., Nov. 11, 1887; and Percy R., May 24, 1890. Marion was married to Joseph L. HAY, of Janesville, Aug. 1, 1897, and makes her home in the city, her husband being employed in the office of the Janesville Machine Co. Clara was married July 20, 1898, to Arthur H. BOEDEKER, of Blue Earth, Minn., where he is engaged in the mercantile business. The other children are still in the home of their parents, at No. 217 North Bluff street.

Seeking information about the family lines of FIRMAN & BRADSHAW. These names involve a family mystery of sorts. Perhaps someone reading this and who know of FIRMANs or BRADSHAWs having removed to Michigan can help in unraveling it. William Elias FIRMAN (b. c1819 NY) & Sarah Marie BRADSHAW (b. c1833 NY) likely married in the three-county area of Herkimer-Montgomery -Otsego then removed to Michigan where son William Warren FIRMAN (Feb 1853) was born in Macomb Co. [dau.’s birth record]. Another son George (1863) was born at Sand Beach (now Harbor Beach) in Huron Co. located in the Thumb [marriage record]. The daughter Eliza Marie (b. 28 Mar 1855 MI) married Dana Parker CARTER in Lapeer Co. MI (1873) [“Pioneer Families and History of Lapeer County”]. However, no proof can be found that father William Elias FIRMAN actually made it to Lapeer. Mother Sarah FIRMIN did, however, and is found [1870 Census] living with the Rubin BRADSHAW family along with two FIRMAN children - George, mentioned above, and Horace (b. abt 1860 MI). Son William Warren age 16 [17] at the time is found working on a farm nearby. And Eliza Marie age 15 is not seen and may also have been working elsewhere. Whatever happened to the father remains a mystery. However the body of the mother Sarah Marie Bradshaw FIRMAN who died in Lapeer Co. MI (1899), was removed by her sons for burial in Clarksville MI in the western county of Ionia. [funeral home record]. This last location only deepens the mystery as her adult children remained on the east side of the state. May it please -- would anyone having ties to any of the above mentioned counties AND the surnames FIRMAN or BRADSHAW please make contact. Thank you. Wade Dick Bradenton FL FIRMAN-BRADSHAW>FIRMAN-SWEET>FIRMAN-NASH>DICK-FIRMAN>Wade DICK _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

Hello, Does anyone know who the contact person is for the Fairview Cemetery in Little Falls? I would like to write and see what information is available about William H. THOMAS who is buried there. I checked the Herkimer County site on Rootsweb, but did not see anything about a contact person. Thanks in advance, Lisa Stauring Boyle

Russia, in the 1810-1830 time period, received many families from Dutchess County,NY. Many of these were from the Town of Dover, including Philleo, Rust, Agard, Roberts and Wolcott families. I am interested in knowing more about their early days in Russia, such as land purchases. What is the county seat for Herkimer, where the early deeds and mortgages hopefully reside? This group included two Revolutionary War pensioners, Enoch Philleo and Abel Rust. Enoch is said to have died "in the cornfield at Russia", but no date is available. This group, through intermarriage, is one large extended family. Is there anyone else interested in these families?

Seeking information about the family lines of FIRMAN & BRADSHAW. These names involve a family mystery of sorts. Perhaps someone reading this and who know of FIRMANs or BRADSHAWs having removed to Michigan can help in unraveling it. William Elias FIRMAN (b. c1819 NY) & Sarah Marie BRADSHAW (b. c1833 NY) likely married in the three-county area of Herkimer-Montgomery -Otsego then removed to Michigan where son William Warren FIRMAN (Feb 1853) was born in Macomb Co. [dau.’s birth record]. Another son George (1863) was born at Sand Beach (now Harbor Beach) in Huron Co. located in the Thumb [marriage record]. The daughter Eliza Marie (b. 28 Mar 1855 MI) married Dana Parker CARTER in Lapeer Co. MI (1873) [“Pioneer Families and History of Lapeer County”]. However, no proof can be found that father William Elias FIRMAN actually made it to Lapeer. Mother Sarah FIRMIN did, however, and is found [1870 Census] living with the Rubin BRADSHAW family along with two FIRMAN children - George, mentioned above, and Horace (b. abt 1860 MI). Son William Warren age 16 [17] at the time is found working on a farm nearby. And Eliza Marie age 15 is not seen and may also have been working elsewhere. Whatever happened to the father remains a mystery. However the body of the mother Sarah Marie Bradshaw FIRMAN who died in Lapeer Co. MI (1899), was removed by her sons for burial in Clarksville MI in the western county of Ionia. [funeral home record]. This last location only deepens the mystery as her adult children remained on the east side of the state. May it please -- would anyone having ties to any of the above mentioned counties AND the surnames FIRMAN or BRADSHAW please make contact. Thank you. Wade Dick Bradenton FL FIRMAN-BRADSHAW>FIRMAN-SWEET>FIRMAN-NASH>DICK-FIRMAN>Wade DICK _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx