I'm trying to track down any type of information on my greatgrandparents and my grandfathers siblings. From what I've been told by my father that all seemed to have spelled their last names differently and it's making the search very difficult. If any of the following sounds familar to anyone please contact me. Any help at all would be greatly appreciated. 1. Anthony (Antoni) Skabowski b.Poland d. NY married Antonette ? b. Poland d. NY summer of 1957 (family supposedly had a farm somewhere in Upstate NY)

See, it's working, I have confused you already! The Rasbach book does NOT list a second wife for John. children are: Catharina Elisabetha b. 1823 Mary Aleida b. 1824 Theodore d. 1826 age 4 months Sophia Elisabeth b. 1827 James Adam b. 1829 John Edward b. 1830 Sarah Sopia b. 1832 These first seven children were born in Herkimer and have more extensive date information and documentation. Theodore Delong Rasbach b. 1834 in Amsterdam (which is more like Schoharie county not Jefferson) Rosetta b. 1836 Charles A b. 1837 William B b. 1839 Thadeus b. 1841 Wallace H b. 1843 These last six children were born in Amsterdam according to the book. Rosanna Delong's parents were James Delong and Adelaide Krankheit, Adelaide was the daughter of Henry Cronkite who was the son of James Cronkite (b. Holland). This is the marriage that I thought was the second marriage of John M from the way the book read at first. Marks Rasbach is listed with only ONE wife. Judi Boniface Herkimer, NY [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: randall a. diefendorf <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, March 27, 1999 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [NYHERKIM-L] MERRILL, George W., RASBACH, Mary >Judi, you're a lady after mine own heart. The Rasbach book may have missed >the second marriage of John M. Rasbach, son of Marks Rasbach. > >The first marriage of John M.(1801-1854) to Rosanna DeLong (1803-1849) >resulted in the seven chilidren. Theodore was Rosanna's last child as you >have noted. > >John M. married the second time to Eliza Devendorff (1818-1855/1856) and >seven children resulted from this marriage, Do I understand correctly that >the Rasbach book doesn't list this event ? Perhaps it was because John M. >remarried and migrated to Jefferson County, NY just after, or just before >his second marriage. > >Marks, father of John M., married Elizabeth Diefendorff (1776-1827). She >lived about five years after Marks (1769-1822) died. I wasn't aware of a >second marriage of Marks. It must have been his first. Will you send >details? > >Incidentally, >Elizabeth Devendorff is my 3rd great grandaunt, Eliza Devendorff, her >niece, and my great grand aunt, John M., my first cousin, four generations >removed. Rosanna's sister, Hannah, married John W. Devendorff, my 2nd great >grandfather. John W. and Hannah were the parents of Eliza Devendorff. It >gets stickier with the son of Eliza and John M. Rasbach, but enough for now. > >My sincere thanks for your patience. randy > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Judi Boniface <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >Date: Saturday, March 27, 1999 3:32 AM >Subject: Re: [NYHERKIM-L] MERRILL, George W., RASBACH, Mary > >>John M Rasbach m. 1823 Rosanna Delong (1803-1849), Theodore was born 1834. >>Other children were born 1823-1843, I only see one wife. What I thought >was another wife for John is actually the marriage record for Rosanna's >parents. >What else may I confuse you about? >> >>Judi Boniface >>Herkimer, NY >>[email protected] >>-----Original Message----- > > > > > > > >==== NYHERKIM Mailing List ==== >Visit the Herkimer/Montgomery Counties GenWeb page at >http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyherkim/ >

In a message dated 3/27/99 6:41:19 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << Subj: Re: [NYHERKIM-L] KLOCKs - question on marriage! Date: 3/27/99 6:41:19 AM Central Standard Time From: [email protected] Reply-to: [email protected] To: [email protected] FIRST GENERATION 1. Hendrick KLOCK was born in 1663.1 He signed a will on 12 Jul 1743.2 He died in 1760.3 He was a Dutch Indian Trader.4 He was buried in Old Klock Cemetery, east of St. Johnsville, NY. Henrick Klock came to America in 1704. He was on Hunter's Lists of Palatine Immigrants, 1709. He was among the first white settlers in the Palatine Church district, 3 miles east of St. Johnsville, New York. Henrick Klock was friends with King Hendrick, Mohawk Chieftan. Henrick Klock took the oath of naturalization in Albany on October 11, 1715. He was married to Maria Margaretha SCHROPHER.5,6 Maria Margaretha SCHROPHER was buried in Klock Cemetery, St. Johnsville, NY.7 Hendrick KLOCK and Maria Margaretha SCHROPHER had the following children: +2 i. Jacob KLOCK. +3 ii. Barbara Elizabeth KLOCK. +4 iii. Magalina KLOCK. >> Can someone kindly tell me if there were other children born to Henrick and Maria KLOCK, in addition to the above three children? Or is the above Magalina, Magdalena (1728-1786) who married Johannes BELLINGER (1719-1777)? Thank you. Darcia

Just trying to help: IF, you don't place your surnames in CAPS [that is what in this mad day rush they look for, making research much easier]; some viewers won't read them, then your effort will be wasted. To catch the researchers eye, use CAP in both the 'Subj" and the body; only for surnames. Some people when they can't recognize the protocol, won't even bother with reading that posted. CEE : - ))

Judi, you're a lady after mine own heart. The Rasbach book may have missed the second marriage of John M. Rasbach, son of Marks Rasbach. The first marriage of John M.(1801-1854) to Rosanna DeLong (1803-1849) resulted in the seven chilidren. Theodore was Rosanna's last child as you have noted. John M. married the second time to Eliza Devendorff (1818-1855/1856) and seven children resulted from this marriage, Do I understand correctly that the Rasbach book doesn't list this event ? Perhaps it was because John M. remarried and migrated to Jefferson County, NY just after, or just before his second marriage. Marks, father of John M., married Elizabeth Diefendorff (1776-1827). She lived about five years after Marks (1769-1822) died. I wasn't aware of a second marriage of Marks. It must have been his first. Will you send details? Incidentally, Elizabeth Devendorff is my 3rd great grandaunt, Eliza Devendorff, her niece, and my great grand aunt, John M., my first cousin, four generations removed. Rosanna's sister, Hannah, married John W. Devendorff, my 2nd great grandfather. John W. and Hannah were the parents of Eliza Devendorff. It gets stickier with the son of Eliza and John M. Rasbach, but enough for now. My sincere thanks for your patience. randy -----Original Message----- From: Judi Boniface <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, March 27, 1999 3:32 AM Subject: Re: [NYHERKIM-L] MERRILL, George W., RASBACH, Mary >John M Rasbach m. 1823 Rosanna Delong (1803-1849), Theodore was born 1834. >Other children were born 1823-1843, I only see one wife. What I thought was another wife for John is actually the marriage record for Rosanna's parents. >What else may I confuse you about? > >Judi Boniface >Herkimer, NY >[email protected] >-----Original Message-----

Hello All, Just a note of caution to those of you who may rely on William Barker's recent CD. Use his information as a starting point and verify all of his information. He published his "Early Families of Montgomery County" on diskette in 1990. While the Nellis/Nelles book was being compiled by Kathleen Mc Laughlin and many others, Barker was informed about several errors in his material. This applied to both the Nellis & Klock families. I do not know if this information was corrected in the current CD version. There is also a project under way to combine all of the Zimmerman Books into one large genealogy database. Ray Keuhne from Utah is coordinating this effort. Richard Hayes [email protected]

Thanks so much for the additional info, Judi. It gives me more clues info for my hunt! Marg Judi Boniface wrote: > > 1830 NY Census Index Merrill, George NY ONONDAGA CO. POMPEY 272 1830 > 1830 NY Census Index Merrill, George NY BROOME CO. SANDFORD 059 1830 > > David Joseph Preuss m. Maria Glock of Manheim; widow, nee Rasbach Feb. 11, > 1816. His remark says Koenigsberg, Germany. Witnesses Joe Joseph Rasbach & > Marcus Fults. > > Varient spellings are Klock, Glok, Glock, Clock or Preuss may be Pross. > > The Rasbach book is probably still available through the Historical Society. > See the part of the Herkimer/Montgomery Genweb site that talks about the > society. I think Martha has a list of books available from them. If you > can't find that, write to them at > Herkimer County Historical Society > 400 N Main St > Herkimer, NY 13350 > > Judi Boniface > Herkimer, NY > [email protected] > -----Original Message----- > From: Marg McEuen <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Date: Thursday, March 25, 1999 3:57 PM > Subject: Re: [NYHERKIM-L] MERRILL, George W., RASBACH, Mary > > >Judi, Thanks again for this info on Mary RASBACH and Mary KLOCK. Does > >the book say anything about where the ____ KLOCKs were living? I've > >checked census indexes and only found 1 reference and that was to > >Maynard KLOCK and only in 1830 in Johnstown, which is now in Fulton Co. > >Does it give anything on Mary Catherine's parents or on George > >MERRILL's? I'm trying to pin down where they were living and then > >figure out which MERRILLs were in the same area about the same time. I > >couldn't find any PREUSS in any of the indexes either. > > Is the book still available thru the Herkimer Historical Soc.? > > Thanks for your help? Marg McEuen in Bernalillo, NM > > > >Judi Boniface wrote: > >>From the book "The Mohawk Valley Rasbachs and Allied Families" by Hazel > Patrick. > >> #44 Mary Catharine Rasbach m. 1st Klock m 2nd 11 Feb 1816 David, > >> son of Joseph Preuss of Koenigsberg, Germany. > >> children: Klock by #1 > >> Maynard > >> Catharina m. Ferguson > >> Mary m. George Merrill > >> (more children by husband #2) > >> > >> So Mary Klock may have married George Merrill. I have checked the > marriage> records for them without success. > >> > > > > > >==== NYHERKIM Mailing List ==== > >Visit the New York State GenWeb site at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenweb/ > >Herkimer/Montgomery Counties: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyherkim/ > > > > ==== NYHERKIM Mailing List ==== > Visit the Herkimer/Montgomery Counties GenWeb page at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyherkim/

Kate & List: I have a James NELSON, probably born NY State, he married an "Unknown KLOCK." They had a son born June 21, 1877 in Lapeer, Lapeer County, MI named James Wesley NELSON. He married Nettie Mae HERRICK and they have ties to Davison, Genesee County, MI and to Richfield Twp, Genesee Co., MI. Michele <[email protected]> replied to a recent response by RLHerrick to a different posting and indicated that "Unknown Klock" may have been Annie Linfoot KLOCK or Annie Klock LINFOOT, but she was not sure. It seems reasonable that this could be the same family of KLOCK. The Richfield Twp area was not all that greatly populated in the early 1800s. Do you, or any one else, recognize any of those noted above? Some of the surnames that I am working on for that area include: HERRICK, ALLEN, BAKER, BLACKMAN, BULLIS, COONEY, HALL, HEWITT, KING, LANE, McNAMARA, NELSON, PATTASON, PATTERSON, PINGEL, SEATON, WORDEN, YOUNG. Best regards, Richard Leon HERRICK, Owner, HERRICK-L list at RootsWeb RLH:mtf:19990327 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, March 27, 1999 1:35 AM Subject: [NYHERKIM-L] KLOCKs >for anyone interested in the KLOCK family, I have a few in my line as >follows: > >1. Henry KLOCK, b. 1663, Hesse Cassell. d. 1760, St. Jonsville, New York. > m. Unknown > 2. Jost KLOCK, b. before 1742, d. unknown. m. Cathrina Krauss, b & >d unknown. married February 11, 1766. > 3. Elesebeth KLOCK, b. abt 1778, d. 1850-1860, Richfield >Township, Genesee Co., MI, m. Frederick BELLINGER, b. Abt 1773, New York, d. >1850-1860, Richfield Township, Genesee Co., MI. > >any connection out there?? > >______________________________

In a message dated 3/27/99 1:37:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << 1. Henry KLOCK, b. 1663, Hesse Cassell. d. 1760, St. Jonsville, New York. m. Unknown 2. Jost KLOCK, b. before 1742, d. unknown. m. Cathrina Krauss, b & d unknown. married February 11, 1766. 3. Elesebeth KLOCK, b. abt 1778, d. 1850-1860, Richfield Township, Genesee Co., MI, m. Frederick BELLINGER, b. Abt 1773, New York, d. 1850-1860, Richfield Township, Genesee Co., MI. >> Here is what I have entered into my genealogy program on the KLOCK family. I recently purchased Barker's CD, and there is quite a bit of information on the KLOCK family that I have not entered. One of these days (i.e., months), I will get Barker's data entered into my database. In reviewing the report shown below, I notice an unlikely relationship: Did Jacob Klock actually married his NIECE Catherine NELLIS. Is this correct? My husband's line continues through the Catherine NELLIS' marriage to Adam ZIMMERMAN (their dau Catherine ZIMMERMAN m. Frederick SNELL, Jr.). Kim Branagan FIRST GENERATION 1. Hendrick KLOCK was born in 1663.1 He signed a will on 12 Jul 1743.2 He died in 1760.3 He was a Dutch Indian Trader.4 He was buried in Old Klock Cemetery, east of St. Johnsville, NY. Henrick Klock came to America in 1704. He was on Hunter's Lists of Palatine Immigrants, 1709. He was among the first white settlers in the Palatine Church district, 3 miles east of St. Johnsville, New York. Henrick Klock was friends with King Hendrick, Mohawk Chieftan. Henrick Klock took the oath of naturalization in Albany on October 11, 1715. He was married to Maria Margaretha SCHROPHER.5,6 Maria Margaretha SCHROPHER was buried in Klock Cemetery, St. Johnsville, NY.7 Hendrick KLOCK and Maria Margaretha SCHROPHER had the following children: +2 i. Jacob KLOCK. +3 ii. Barbara Elizabeth KLOCK. +4 iii. Magalina KLOCK. SECOND GENERATION 2. Jacob KLOCK died on 9 May 1798.8 He was buried in Klock Cemetery, St. Johnsville, NY.9 He was married to Catharine NELLIS (daughter of Christian NELLIS and Barbara Elizabeth KLOCK) on 27 Jul 1781.10 Catharine NELLIS was born on 23 Dec 1723 in New York.11,12 McLaughlin calculated birthdate from date of death, making her born on 18 Jan 1724. She was born on 18 Jan 1724.13 She died on 20 Aug 1805 in Montgomery Co., NY.14,15 She was buried in Klock Cemetery, St. Johnsville, Montgomery Co., NY.16,17 Catharine was buried in the Christian Nellis, Jr. plot. 3. Barbara Elizabeth KLOCK was born in 1697.18 She was born about 1698 in Gravenweisbach, Germany.19 She died in 1771.20 She was also known as Barvalis Klock. She was buried in Klock Church Yard, east of St. Johnsville, Albany Co., NY.21 She was married to Christian NELLIS (son of NFN NELLIS and Maria Elizabeth (NELLISIN)) on 28 Feb 1717/18 in New York, perhaps Schoharie Co..22,23 Christian NELLIS24,25,26 was born in 1697 in Germany.27 He died in 1771.28 He was buried in Klock Church Yard, east of St. Johnsville, Albany Co., NY.29 On 31 Jan 1715/16, Christian was naturalized at Albany. In 1725, he obtained 650 acres, Lot #12 of the Harris Patent, land held in the family of Christian Nellis until about 1887, when it was sold to a Nellis relation. Christian was listed as a freeholder at Canajoharie in 1763. Jeptha R. Simms, the 1882 author of Frontiersman of New York (2 vols., Geo. C. Riggs Publisher, Albany, NY), classified Christian Nellis as the head of one of the wealthiest and "best" families in the Palatine district; that he was a patentee of Freys Bush land in 1767. Simms also indicated that Christian's house was not far from Fort Klock, was strengthened, and called Fort Nellis. Smith indicated that the structure, which may be the Nellis Tavern, was a farm house constructed by Christian Nellis in 1747. Remaining in the family, a second story addition and a wing were added to create a tavern and store in 1790. The tavern is now on the National Register of Historic Places and is being restored. Barbara Elizabeth KLOCK and Christian NELLIS had the following children: +5 i. Catharine NELLIS. 4. Magalina KLOCK. THIRD GENERATION 5. Catharine NELLIS was born on 23 Dec 1723 in New York.30,31 McLaughlin calculated birthdate from date of death, making her born on 18 Jan 1724. She was born on 18 Jan 1724.32 She died on 20 Aug 1805 in Montgomery Co., NY.33,34 She was buried in Klock Cemetery, St. Johnsville, Montgomery Co., NY.35,36 Catharine was buried in the Christian Nellis, Jr. plot. She was married to Adam ZIMMERMAN (son of Jacob ZIMMERMAN and Anna Margaretha SCHUTZ) about 1743 in Stone Arabia, Albany Co., NY.37,38 Adam ZIMMERMAN was born about 1714.39 He died between 1745 and 1749 in Mohawk Valley, NY.40 Catharine NELLIS and Adam ZIMMERMAN had the following children: +6 i. Anna Eva ZIMMERMAN. +7 ii. Catharine ZIMMERMAN. She was married to Johann Leonardt HELMER (son of Leonardt HELMER and Elizabeth RUHL?) about 1749.41 She was married to Jacob KLOCK (son of Hendrick KLOCK and Maria Margaretha SCHROPHER) on 27 Jul 1781.42 Jacob KLOCK died on 9 May 1798.43 He was buried in Klock Cemetery, St. Johnsville, NY.44 Prepared by: Kimberly L. (Thompson) Branagan 3260 Patchett Road Baldwinsville, NY 13027 USA (315) 635-8081 [email protected] SOURCES 1. The Klock-Clock Family. p. 4. 2. Kathleen McLaughlin, 877 Pearl Street, Bowling Green, OH 43402; (419) 353-6319; [email protected] Citing Williams, Helena Laura Clock, 1952, Klock-Clock, plus undated Supplement, Supplement No. 2, Mar 1954, Supplement No. 3, 1956, and/or revised edition of 1966, The Klock Family genealogy, privately printed, Cleveland, OH. 3. The Klock-Clock Family. p. 4. 4. Ibid. p. 6. 5. Kathleen McLaughlin, 877 Pearl Street, Bowling Green, OH 43402; [email protected] Quoting Simmendinger, Ulrich, 1709, True and Authentic Register of persons still living, by God's grace, who in the year 1709, under the wonderful providences of the Lord Journeyed from Germany to America or New world and there seek their piece of bread at various places reported with joy to all admirers, especially to their families and close firends, printed in Reutlingen, Germany, ca 1716, translated in 1934 by Herman F. Vosper and published in St. Johnsville, NY, reprinted in 1991, Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore. 6. Ibid. Information obtained from various Nellis, Klock and Zimmerman books in her possession. 7. Martin, David Kendall. The Eighteenth Century Zimmerman Family of the Mohawk Valley. Church Hill, MD: Mouse House Books, 1994. p. 60. 8. Ibid. p. 60. 9. Ibid. p. 61. 10. Ibid. p. 61. 11. Ibid. p. 60. 12. Kathleen McLaughlin, 877 Pearl Street, Bowling Green, OH 43402; [email protected] Information obtained from various Nellis, Klock and Zimmerman books in her possession. 13. Martin, David Kendall. The Eighteenth Century Zimmerman Family of the Mohawk Valley. Church Hill, MD: Mouse House Books, 1994. p. 61. 14. Ibid. p. 60. 15. Kathleen McLaughlin, 877 Pearl Street, Bowling Green, OH 43402; [email protected] Information obtained from various Nellis, Klock and Zimmerman books in her possession. 16. Ibid. Information obtained from various Nellis, Klock and Zimmerman books in her possession. 17. Martin, David Kendall. The Eighteenth Century Zimmerman Family of the Mohawk Valley. Church Hill, MD: Mouse House Books, 1994. p. 61. 18. The Klock-Clock Family. p. 4. 19. Kathleen McLaughlin, 877 Pearl Street, Bowling Green, OH 43402; [email protected] Quoting Henry Z. Jones' "The Palatine Families of New York, A Study of the German Immigrants Who Arrived in Colonial New York in 1710," 1985, 2 volumes, University City, CA. 20. The Klock-Clock Family. p. 4. 21. Kathleen McLaughlin, 877 Pearl Street, Bowling Green, OH 43402; [email protected] Information obtained from various Nellis, Klock and Zimmerman books in her possession. 22. The Klock-Clock Family. p. 4. 23. As quoted by Kathleen McLaughlin. As quoted by Kathleen McLaughlin. 24. Kathleen McLaughlin, 877 Pearl Street, Bowling Green, OH 43402; [email protected] Quoting "The Mohawk Dutch and the Palatines," by Milo Nellis, 1951; 90 pages, privately published. 25. Ibid. Information obtained from various Nellis, Klock and Zimmerman books in her possession. 26. Ibid. Quoting Smith, Robert, President of the Palatine Settlement Society as quoted from The Sunday Recorder, 29 Sep 1996. 27. As quoted by Kathleen McLaughlin. 28. Ibid. As quoted by Kathleen McLaughlin. 29. Kathleen McLaughlin, 877 Pearl Street, Bowling Green, OH 43402; [email protected] Information obtained from various Nellis, Klock and Zimmerman books in her possession. 30. Martin, David Kendall. The Eighteenth Century Zimmerman Family of the Mohawk Valley. Church Hill, MD: Mouse House Books, 1994. p. 60. 31. Kathleen McLaughlin, 877 Pearl Street, Bowling Green, OH 43402; [email protected] Information obtained from various Nellis, Klock and Zimmerman books in her possession. 32. Martin, David Kendall. The Eighteenth Century Zimmerman Family of the Mohawk Valley. Church Hill, MD: Mouse House Books, 1994. p. 61. 33. Ibid. p. 60. 34. Kathleen McLaughlin, 877 Pearl Street, Bowling Green, OH 43402; [email protected] Information obtained from various Nellis, Klock and Zimmerman books in her possession. 35. Ibid. Information obtained from various Nellis, Klock and Zimmerman books in her possession. 36. Martin, David Kendall. The Eighteenth Century Zimmerman Family of the Mohawk Valley. Church Hill, MD: Mouse House Books, 1994. p. 61. 37. Ibid. p. 60. 38. Kathleen McLaughlin, 877 Pearl Street, Bowling Green, OH 43402; [email protected] Information obtained from various Nellis, Klock and Zimmerman books in her possession. 39. Martin, David Kendall. The Eighteenth Century Zimmerman Family of the Mohawk Valley. Church Hill, MD: Mouse House Books, 1994. p. 60. 40. Ibid. p. 60. 41. Ibid. p. 61. 42. Ibid. p. 61. 43. Ibid. p. 60. 44. Ibid. p. 61.

John M Rasbach m. 1823 Rosanna Delong (1803-1849), Theodore was born 1834. Other children were born 1823-1843, I only see one wife. What I thought was another wife for John is actually the marriage record for Rosanna's parents. What else may I confuse you about? Judi Boniface Herkimer, NY [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: randall a. diefendorf <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, March 26, 1999 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [NYHERKIM-L] MERRILL, George W., RASBACH, Mary >Thank you, Judy, Was the last child of the first wife Theodore? Do you >have a birth date of the first child of the second wife? randy > >-----Original Message----- >From: Judi Boniface <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >Date: Friday, March 26, 1999 10:08 AM >Subject: Re: [NYHERKIM-L] MERRILL, George W., RASBACH, Mary > > >>There are 13 children listed for him with the two wives, the first seven >>born Herkimer, last six in Amsterdam. That is from the Rasbach book. Only >>three of them are listed with further information about decendents, James >>Adam, John Edward and Charles A. >> >>Judi Boniface >>Herkimer, NY >>[email protected] >>-----Original Message----- >>From: randall a. diefendorf <[email protected]> >>To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >>Date: Thursday, March 25, 1999 6:30 PM >>Subject: Re: [NYHERKIM-L] MERRILL, George W., RASBACH, Mary >> >> >>>Can someone give me data of John M. RASBACH (23 Nov 1801-23 Oct 1854) who >>>married twice. Once to Rosanna DeLONG. >>> >>>John was a son of Marcus and Elizabeth (DEVENDORFF) RASBACH (20 Jun >1769-10 >>>Aug 1822). John M. born in Herkimer County, NY and his father, Marks (or >>>Marcus) born in Montgomery (or Herkimer) County, NY. >>> >>>I am esp. interested in data of the children of John M. RASBACH by his two >>>wives. >>>r.a.diefendorf [email protected] >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Marg McEuen <[email protected]> >>>To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >>>Date: Thursday, March 25, 1999 1:00 PM >>>Subject: Re: [NYHERKIM-L] MERRILL, George W., RASBACH, Mary >>> >>> >>>>Judi, Thanks again for this info on Mary RASBACH and Mary KLOCK. Does >>>>the book say anything about where the ____ KLOCKs were living? I've >>>>checked census indexes and only found 1 reference and that was to >>>>Maynard KLOCK and only in 1830 in Johnstown, which is now in Fulton Co. >>>>Does it give anything on Mary Catherine's parents or on George >>>>MERRILL's? I'm trying to pin down where they were living and then >>>>figure out which MERRILLs were in the same area about the same time. I >>>>couldn't find any PREUSS in any of the indexes either. >>>> Is the book still available thru the Herkimer Historical Soc.? >>>> Thanks for your help? Marg McEuen in Bernalillo, NM >>>> >>>>Judi Boniface wrote: >>>>>From the book "The Mohawk Valley Rasbachs and Allied Families" by Hazel >>>Patrick. >>>>> #44 Mary Catharine Rasbach m. 1st Klock m 2nd 11 Feb 1816 David, >>>>> son of Joseph Preuss of Koenigsberg, Germany. >>>>> children: Klock by #1 >>>>> Maynard >>>>> Catharina m. Ferguson >>>>> Mary m. George Merrill >>>>> (more children by husband #2) >>>>> >>>>> So Mary Klock may have married George Merrill. I have checked the >>>marriage> records for them without success. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>==== NYHERKIM Mailing List ==== >>>Cyndi's List of Genealogy Sites: http://www.cyndislist.com/ >>> >> >> >>==== NYHERKIM Mailing List ==== >>Visit the Herkimer/Montgomery Counties GenWeb page at >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyherkim/ >> > > > > >==== NYHERKIM Mailing List ==== >QUESTIONS? Contact listowner Kim Branagan at [email protected], >a proud Donor of RootsWeb.com. >

for anyone interested in the KLOCK family, I have a few in my line as follows: 1. Henry KLOCK, b. 1663, Hesse Cassell. d. 1760, St. Jonsville, New York. m. Unknown 2. Jost KLOCK, b. before 1742, d. unknown. m. Cathrina Krauss, b & d unknown. married February 11, 1766. 3. Elesebeth KLOCK, b. abt 1778, d. 1850-1860, Richfield Township, Genesee Co., MI, m. Frederick BELLINGER, b. Abt 1773, New York, d. 1850-1860, Richfield Township, Genesee Co., MI. any connection out there??

For everyone's info. When Rex passed away we did not know for several weeks. His family did not acknowledge letters from anyone. No more email address, no more phone #. I have no information about what Rex had as we were searching only one line together, our Stevensons, in another county. So whatever you find at the FHC is Rex's Legacy and there is no more. We did not share the same Mohawk Valley lines. I don't have his GEDCOM or any information at all about his Mohawk Valley lines. He had me delete his surnames from our surnames list prior to his passing. As I said, his family did not acknowledge our regrets. Martha Herkimer/Montgomery Counties NYGenWeb On Fri, 26 Mar 1999 [email protected] wrote: > In a message dated 99-03-26 12:50:20 EST, you write: > > << Hi, Is anyone out there researching the surname Ausman.They came to > N.Y. > in the early 1700's & settled in Herkimer & Montgomery Counties.Some of them > went to Canada in 1804. they settled around Toronto in the Markham area.The > names of these Ausman's were Conrad (b-c-1770 N.Y. M.-c1794 Montgomery > Co. > to Lydia Elizabeth Williams )Lydia was born 1778 toJohn & Catherine (Krans) > Williams)WE think Conrad's Father was Philip as we found a Philip > Ausman(b-1740 or 50 Warrentown N.Y. )who married Barbara Elizabeth ?. > Related surnames in this family are Bellinger &,Klock,I found some info at > mormon records that appear to relate to this family from a Rex Stevenson > .I > wrote him but got no answer.Does anyone know of him.?He could be related > through the Bellingers as 3 Bellingers married into the Philip Ausman > family .Hope to hear from someone .Dorothy Brown >> > > Dorothy, > > I believe Rex Stevenson was the co-webmaster with Martha Magill for the > Herkimer County Genweb site who died about a year ago. I am exploring the Van > Allen family, and there was a Francis Van Allen who married a Katie Ausman. > Might you know who she was? Any help is appreciated. > > Paul Horvat > > > ==== NYHERKIM Mailing List ==== > QUESTIONS? Contact listowner Kim Branagan at [email protected], > a proud Donor of RootsWeb.com. >

Thank you, Judy, Was the last child of the first wife Theodore? Do you have a birth date of the first child of the second wife? randy -----Original Message----- From: Judi Boniface <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, March 26, 1999 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [NYHERKIM-L] MERRILL, George W., RASBACH, Mary >There are 13 children listed for him with the two wives, the first seven >born Herkimer, last six in Amsterdam. That is from the Rasbach book. Only >three of them are listed with further information about decendents, James >Adam, John Edward and Charles A. > >Judi Boniface >Herkimer, NY >[email protected] >-----Original Message----- >From: randall a. diefendorf <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >Date: Thursday, March 25, 1999 6:30 PM >Subject: Re: [NYHERKIM-L] MERRILL, George W., RASBACH, Mary > > >>Can someone give me data of John M. RASBACH (23 Nov 1801-23 Oct 1854) who >>married twice. Once to Rosanna DeLONG. >> >>John was a son of Marcus and Elizabeth (DEVENDORFF) RASBACH (20 Jun 1769-10 >>Aug 1822). John M. born in Herkimer County, NY and his father, Marks (or >>Marcus) born in Montgomery (or Herkimer) County, NY. >> >>I am esp. interested in data of the children of John M. RASBACH by his two >>wives. >>r.a.diefendorf [email protected] >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Marg McEuen <[email protected]> >>To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >>Date: Thursday, March 25, 1999 1:00 PM >>Subject: Re: [NYHERKIM-L] MERRILL, George W., RASBACH, Mary >> >> >>>Judi, Thanks again for this info on Mary RASBACH and Mary KLOCK. Does >>>the book say anything about where the ____ KLOCKs were living? I've >>>checked census indexes and only found 1 reference and that was to >>>Maynard KLOCK and only in 1830 in Johnstown, which is now in Fulton Co. >>>Does it give anything on Mary Catherine's parents or on George >>>MERRILL's? I'm trying to pin down where they were living and then >>>figure out which MERRILLs were in the same area about the same time. I >>>couldn't find any PREUSS in any of the indexes either. >>> Is the book still available thru the Herkimer Historical Soc.? >>> Thanks for your help? Marg McEuen in Bernalillo, NM >>> >>>Judi Boniface wrote: >>>>From the book "The Mohawk Valley Rasbachs and Allied Families" by Hazel >>Patrick. >>>> #44 Mary Catharine Rasbach m. 1st Klock m 2nd 11 Feb 1816 David, >>>> son of Joseph Preuss of Koenigsberg, Germany. >>>> children: Klock by #1 >>>> Maynard >>>> Catharina m. Ferguson >>>> Mary m. George Merrill >>>> (more children by husband #2) >>>> >>>> So Mary Klock may have married George Merrill. I have checked the >>marriage> records for them without success. >> >> >> >> >>==== NYHERKIM Mailing List ==== >>Cyndi's List of Genealogy Sites: http://www.cyndislist.com/ >> > > >==== NYHERKIM Mailing List ==== >Visit the Herkimer/Montgomery Counties GenWeb page at >http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyherkim/ >

<look north of Rte 29a about five miles on Rt 10 (heading towards Speculator)> Sandra Thanks for writing. What state or province would this be? Sheila

In a message dated 3/26/99 12:50:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << I found some info at mormon records that appear to relate to this family from a Rex Stevenson .I wrote him but got no answer.Does anyone know of him.?He could be related through the Bellingers as 3 Bellingers married into the Philip Ausman family .Hope to hear from someone .Dorothy Brown >> Rex has passed away. You can see a dedication for him on the Herkimer County web page or you can ask the coordinator of that page. Her name is Martha. Jo Dee Frasco

In a message dated 99-03-26 12:50:20 EST, you write: << Hi, Is anyone out there researching the surname Ausman.They came to N.Y. in the early 1700's & settled in Herkimer & Montgomery Counties.Some of them went to Canada in 1804. they settled around Toronto in the Markham area.The names of these Ausman's were Conrad (b-c-1770 N.Y. M.-c1794 Montgomery Co. to Lydia Elizabeth Williams )Lydia was born 1778 toJohn & Catherine (Krans) Williams)WE think Conrad's Father was Philip as we found a Philip Ausman(b-1740 or 50 Warrentown N.Y. )who married Barbara Elizabeth ?. Related surnames in this family are Bellinger &,Klock,I found some info at mormon records that appear to relate to this family from a Rex Stevenson .I wrote him but got no answer.Does anyone know of him.?He could be related through the Bellingers as 3 Bellingers married into the Philip Ausman family .Hope to hear from someone .Dorothy Brown >> Dorothy, I believe Rex Stevenson was the co-webmaster with Martha Magill for the Herkimer County Genweb site who died about a year ago. I am exploring the Van Allen family, and there was a Francis Van Allen who married a Katie Ausman. Might you know who she was? Any help is appreciated. Paul Horvat

Hi, Is anyone out there researching the surname Ausman.They came to N.Y. in the early 1700's & settled in Herkimer & Montgomery Counties.Some of them went to Canada in 1804. they settled around Toronto in the Markham area.The names of these Ausman's were Conrad (b-c-1770 N.Y. M.-c1794 Montgomery Co. to Lydia Elizabeth Williams )Lydia was born 1778 toJohn & Catherine (Krans) Williams)WE think Conrad's Father was Philip as we found a Philip Ausman(b-1740 or 50 Warrentown N.Y. )who married Barbara Elizabeth ?. Related surnames in this family are Bellinger &,Klock,I found some info at mormon records that appear to relate to this family from a Rex Stevenson .I wrote him but got no answer.Does anyone know of him.?He could be related through the Bellingers as 3 Bellingers married into the Philip Ausman family .Hope to hear from someone .Dorothy Brown

I've received many inquiries on where people can get the Barker CD. Here's the info. that I used when I bought mine in Jan. >Bill Barker >25 Wheeler St. >Shelton, CT. 06484 > >include a check for $20.00 (that includes shipping & postage) made out to >Bill. Ask for the NY_HMS Families on CD. All 3 counties are on the CD >Herkimer/Montgomery/Scoharie. You should get it about 3 weeks later. >

There are 13 children listed for him with the two wives, the first seven born Herkimer, last six in Amsterdam. That is from the Rasbach book. Only three of them are listed with further information about decendents, James Adam, John Edward and Charles A. Judi Boniface Herkimer, NY [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: randall a. diefendorf <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, March 25, 1999 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [NYHERKIM-L] MERRILL, George W., RASBACH, Mary >Can someone give me data of John M. RASBACH (23 Nov 1801-23 Oct 1854) who >married twice. Once to Rosanna DeLONG. > >John was a son of Marcus and Elizabeth (DEVENDORFF) RASBACH (20 Jun 1769-10 >Aug 1822). John M. born in Herkimer County, NY and his father, Marks (or >Marcus) born in Montgomery (or Herkimer) County, NY. > >I am esp. interested in data of the children of John M. RASBACH by his two >wives. >r.a.diefendorf [email protected] > >-----Original Message----- >From: Marg McEuen <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >Date: Thursday, March 25, 1999 1:00 PM >Subject: Re: [NYHERKIM-L] MERRILL, George W., RASBACH, Mary > > >>Judi, Thanks again for this info on Mary RASBACH and Mary KLOCK. Does >>the book say anything about where the ____ KLOCKs were living? I've >>checked census indexes and only found 1 reference and that was to >>Maynard KLOCK and only in 1830 in Johnstown, which is now in Fulton Co. >>Does it give anything on Mary Catherine's parents or on George >>MERRILL's? I'm trying to pin down where they were living and then >>figure out which MERRILLs were in the same area about the same time. I >>couldn't find any PREUSS in any of the indexes either. >> Is the book still available thru the Herkimer Historical Soc.? >> Thanks for your help? Marg McEuen in Bernalillo, NM >> >>Judi Boniface wrote: >>>From the book "The Mohawk Valley Rasbachs and Allied Families" by Hazel >Patrick. >>> #44 Mary Catharine Rasbach m. 1st Klock m 2nd 11 Feb 1816 David, >>> son of Joseph Preuss of Koenigsberg, Germany. >>> children: Klock by #1 >>> Maynard >>> Catharina m. Ferguson >>> Mary m. George Merrill >>> (more children by husband #2) >>> >>> So Mary Klock may have married George Merrill. I have checked the >marriage> records for them without success. > > > > >==== NYHERKIM Mailing List ==== >Cyndi's List of Genealogy Sites: http://www.cyndislist.com/ >

1830 NY Census Index Merrill, George NY ONONDAGA CO. POMPEY 272 1830 1830 NY Census Index Merrill, George NY BROOME CO. SANDFORD 059 1830 David Joseph Preuss m. Maria Glock of Manheim; widow, nee Rasbach Feb. 11, 1816. His remark says Koenigsberg, Germany. Witnesses Joe Joseph Rasbach & Marcus Fults. Varient spellings are Klock, Glok, Glock, Clock or Preuss may be Pross. The Rasbach book is probably still available through the Historical Society. See the part of the Herkimer/Montgomery Genweb site that talks about the society. I think Martha has a list of books available from them. If you can't find that, write to them at Herkimer County Historical Society 400 N Main St Herkimer, NY 13350 Judi Boniface Herkimer, NY [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Marg McEuen <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, March 25, 1999 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [NYHERKIM-L] MERRILL, George W., RASBACH, Mary >Judi, Thanks again for this info on Mary RASBACH and Mary KLOCK. Does >the book say anything about where the ____ KLOCKs were living? I've >checked census indexes and only found 1 reference and that was to >Maynard KLOCK and only in 1830 in Johnstown, which is now in Fulton Co. >Does it give anything on Mary Catherine's parents or on George >MERRILL's? I'm trying to pin down where they were living and then >figure out which MERRILLs were in the same area about the same time. I >couldn't find any PREUSS in any of the indexes either. > Is the book still available thru the Herkimer Historical Soc.? > Thanks for your help? Marg McEuen in Bernalillo, NM > >Judi Boniface wrote: >>From the book "The Mohawk Valley Rasbachs and Allied Families" by Hazel Patrick. >> #44 Mary Catharine Rasbach m. 1st Klock m 2nd 11 Feb 1816 David, >> son of Joseph Preuss of Koenigsberg, Germany. >> children: Klock by #1 >> Maynard >> Catharina m. Ferguson >> Mary m. George Merrill >> (more children by husband #2) >> >> So Mary Klock may have married George Merrill. I have checked the marriage> records for them without success. >> > > >==== NYHERKIM Mailing List ==== >Visit the New York State GenWeb site at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenweb/ >Herkimer/Montgomery Counties: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyherkim/ >