Linda, Let me know how it works. Are you with Grist Mill? Peigi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grstmll@yahoo.com" <grstmll@yahoo.com> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Duesen & Delamater > Hi, > Thought you had to have 5 letters ahead of the asterick to do this type of search. I have used the ? a couple of letters before the asterick.Will definitely try this and see what happens... > Thanks! > Linda > > peigi mulligan <pmulligan@hvc.rr.com> wrote: > when using ancestry.com census records, instead of soundex, another method > for finding sur or forenames is to put in the first 3 letters with an > asterick, ie: > john smith > joh* > smi* > john smi* > joh* smi* > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 2:32 PM > Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Duesen & Delamater > > > > Hi Linda, > > > > It's not some much the family changing the spelling of their name, it is > usually spelled the way the census enumerator hears it. Most of the people > did not know how to write or spell. And I have found especially with the > indices on Ancestry.com that the people who did the indices are not familiar > with the Dutch surnames of the area. What I usually do to find them is do a > forename search, as most people (then and now) know how to spell Cornelius > or Claude. I put in the forename, state, county and town. And alot of the > time, if a family was not home, the cenus taker just asked a neighbor and > any one that was around and they might not know the correct information. > > > > > > In the 1820 census Claverack, Columbia, NY, Roll M33-70, page 66: > > Cornelius Van Deusen > > 3 males to 10 > > 2 males 10 to 16 > > 2 males 16 to 26 > > 1 male 45 and up > > 1 female 10 to 16 > > 1 female 26 to 45 > > 1 female 45 and up > > 5 in agriculture > > > > In the 1830 census also Claverack, Roll86, page 79 > > 2 male 5 to 10 > > 1 male 15 to 20 > > 1 male 20 to 30 > > 1 male to to 60 > > 1 female 15 to 20 > > 1 female 50 to 60 > > > > Also in the Dutch Reformed Church of Claverack: > > Baptism Date: 29 Nov 1834 > > Father: Claudius C. Van Deusen > > Mother: Lydia Ann Mc Clean > > Item #: 6434 > > Child: Julia Angline > > Sponsor: Claudius C. Van Deusen; Lydia Ann Mc Clean > > Birth Date: 29 Oct 1834 > > Baptism Record of Reformed Church: Claverack, (Columbia County) Reformed > Church 1727-1899 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------ > > Baptism Date: 01 Sep 1839 > > Father: Claudius Van Deusen > > Mother: Lydia Ann Mc Clean > > Item #: 6579 > > Child: Jurial > > Sponsor: Claudius Van Deusen; Lydia Ann Mc Clean > > Birth Date: 21 Aug 1838 > > Baptism Record of Reformed Church: Claverack, (Columbia County) Reformed > Church > > > > Is this the Claude you are looking for? > > > > Hope this helps, > > Susan > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > > > > Hello Susan, > > > Thank you so much for the information, that is the family I am looking > for. > > > > > > My problem is attempting to locate Cornelius and his son Claude from the > > > time period of 1820 to 1840.With what you have told me, their strange > penchant > > > for changing their name had been going on for awhile. There are three > strange > > > possiblities that bring this about, they were actaully not giving the > correct > > > name, someone had a speech impediment, they got the worst of the > > > enumerators.Though I did notice in the 1855 or 65 Kinderhook census, the > > > enumerator was upset beause he was meeting with a great deal of > resisitance to > > > his questions and either getting no information or incomplete answers. > > > > > > Will check out the name VanDrum, the name VanDensen was also a name I > found > > > them as, on the 1850 census in Chatham . > > > > > > So I will go back and redo the census records under alot of other names > I > > > hadn't thought of. > > > I do so appreciate all that you are doing with your site, it is great! > If you > > > ever need help transcribing please let me know. Another question, if I > get back > > > down the the state library, is there something you are interested in > from there? > > > > > > Thanks again, you mayhave solved a long standing mystery. > > > > > > Linda > > > > > > > > > smulvey wrote: > > > Hi Linda, > > > Not sure if this is the family your are looking for but I thought I > would > > > send in anyway as the names are the same. > > > > > > From the book: "Marriage Record of Reformed Church, Claverack, New York > > > 1717-1899" transcribed by Arthur C.M. Kelly, Kinship, Rhinebeck, NY > 1970. > > > Page 24, No. 828: > > > 4.3.1797: Cornelius van Deusen married Linje De La Matter > > > > > > From the book: "Baptism Record of Reformed Church Claverack, (Columbia > > > County) New York" 1717-1899 transcribed by Arthur C.M. Kelly, Kinship, > > > Rhinebeck, NY 1970. > > > Page 147, No. 3216 > > > 7.7.1799, Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. Matteus > Abraham > > > born 6.18, sponsors: Tobias van Deusen and Cornelis van Deusen. > > > > > > Page 157, No. 3429: > > > 12.7.1800, Cornelius van Deusen and Linje de La Matter bpt. Robert born > > > 11.9, sponsors; Robert de La Matter and Magdalena De La Matter. > > > > > > Page 170, No. 3714: > > > 7.11.1802, Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. Cloudy born > 6.4, > > > sponsors Cloudius de La Matter and Lena Mandevill. > > > > > > Page 178, No. 3897: > > > 11.13/1803, Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. Robert born > > > 10.7, sponsors; Robert van Deusen and Christina Decker. > > > > > > Page 191, No. 4179: > > > 10.20.1805, Cornelius van Deusen and Cathlina De La Matter bpt. Cornelia > > > born 9.23, sponsors Abraham van Deusen and Arianje van Deusen. > > > > > > Page 202, No. 4404: > > > 5.16.1807: Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. Maria born > 2.8, > > > sponsors; parents. > > > > > > Page 208, No. 4538: > > > 4.18.1808: Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. Cornelius > born > > > 2.6, sponsors; parents. > > > > > > Page 224, No. 4895: > > > 1.25.1811: Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. James > Jeremiah > > > born 10.16.1810, sponsors; James de La Matter and Gitty Osterhout. > > > > > > Page 276, No. 6040: > > > 7.16.1820: Cornelius van Deusen and Lynje De La Matter bpt. Gilbert born > > > 5.22, sponsors; parents. > > > > > > Page 278, No. 6094: > > > 12.11.1821: Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De Lamatter bpt. John G. > Gebhard > > > born 9.29, sponsors; parents. > > > > > > Cornelius is in the 1820 Census Claverack, Columbia County (Ancestry > Image > > > No. 10 under the surname of van durm??). He is in the 1830 also in > > > Claverack (Ancestry Image No. 7 under the spelling of van Densen). > > > > > > Hope this helps, > > > Susan > > > ************************************************* > > > "If you can't get rid of the family skeleton, you may as well make it > > > dance." > > > -- George Bernard Shaw > > > Columbia County, NY Coordinator > > > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/columbia/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >A Cornelius Vanhoesen appears in the 1820 census for Cairo and also in > > > >Lexington in Greene Co. There is also a Cornelius J. Vanhoesen in > Hudson, > > > >Columbia Co. in 1820. I realize this spelling is not correct but that > is > > > >the closest it came to VanDeusen when I did a search by first name > only. > > > > In 1830 there is a Cornelius Vanhoosen in Windham and a Cornelius I. > Van > > > > Deusen in Stuyvesant, Columbia Co. > > > > For 1840. Cornelius Vandeusen at Berne in Albany Co., Cornelius > Vandusen > > > > in Palatine, Montgomery Co. (actually two there); Cornelius Vandusen > at > > > > Nassau, Rensselaeer Co., Cornelius C. Vandusen at Claverack, Columbia > Co., > > > > Cornelius Vanduser at New York City, Ward 13 > > > > 1850 > > > > Cornelius Van Deusen in Claverack, Columbia Co. born about 1841, same > > > > spelling at Mohawk, Montgomery Co. born about 1800 and Cornelius C. at > > > > Claverack, Columbia Co. born about 1809. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Grstmll@yahoo.com" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 7:58 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Vedder research > > > > > > > > > > > >> Good Morning, > > > >> So glad that you had a great trip to Europe and are back with renewed > > > >> "vigor" You site is priceless. > > > >> In reference to your offer to do research, I was wondering if you > might > > > >> be able to help me establish the location of my 5th great grandfather > in > > > >> Greene County. > > > >> In 1813 Lynje DeLaMater wife of Cornelius VanDeusen inherited from > her > > > >> father Claude property in Coxsackie, right next to her brother > Robert. I > > > >> do have Cornelius in that area in 1810, but seem to lose them between > the > > > >> Will date and 1850! > > > >> They were apparently married in Columbia County, but believe their > > > >> principle residence was Coxsackie as they had atleast two children > > > >> baptized there. > > > >> Not sure what records are available there, but would appreciate if > you > > > >> could use your knowledge as to where to look. > > > >> > > > >> Thank you for your time, and please let me know if you would like the > fee > > > >> prior to your visit to the library. I can send you a check right > away.. > > > >> > > > >> Thanks again, > > > >> Linda VanDeusen-Kintzing > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Sylvia Hasenkopf wrote: > > > >> Hello everyone. Back from vacation in Europe - had a great time! 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