Hi, The part about the brain was cute, I usually say that after a long week of research. Thanks so much for all of your suggestions, your mind is working far better than mineand you have been very helpful. :-)) End of week humor, my grandfather from the 1600's was fired from his job as company miller! peigi mulligan <pmulligan@hvc.rr.com> wrote: If I only had a brain..... Also, on ancestry.com, I've also found if I do a search just on Census, All Years, I get a better response than if I search on the main search. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grstmll@yahoo.com" To: Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Duesen & Delamater > Hi Peigi, > Will try your suggestion this weekend and let you know if it brings up more information. > The first VanDeusen to come to this country(circa 1623) was a miller, my husband's great grandfather was a miller and the house we live in was the home of the owner of a gristmill just across our dirt road. When I first started to create a screen name and everything else I wanted was taken, I looked out the window and it was "born". Of course someone had the name fully spelled out, but out of desperation of I took what I could get. > > peigi mulligan wrote: > Linda, > Let me know how it works. > Are you with Grist Mill? > Peigi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Grstmll@yahoo.com" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 6:51 PM > Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Duesen & Delamater > > > > Hi, > > Thought you had to have 5 letters ahead of the asterick to do this type > of search. I have used the ? a couple of letters before the asterick.Will > definitely try this and see what happens... > > Thanks! > > Linda > > > > peigi mulligan > wrote: > > when using ancestry.com census records, instead of soundex, another method > > for finding sur or forenames is to put in the first 3 letters with an > > asterick, ie: > > john smith > > joh* > > smi* > > john smi* > > joh* smi* > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 2:32 PM > > Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Duesen & Delamater > > > > > > > Hi Linda, > > > > > > It's not some much the family changing the spelling of their name, it is > > usually spelled the way the census enumerator hears it. Most of the people > > did not know how to write or spell. And I have found especially with the > > indices on Ancestry.com that the people who did the indices are not > familiar > > with the Dutch surnames of the area. What I usually do to find them is do > a > > forename search, as most people (then and now) know how to spell Cornelius > > or Claude. I put in the forename, state, county and town. And alot of the > > time, if a family was not home, the cenus taker just asked a neighbor and > > any one that was around and they might not know the correct information. > > > > > > > > > In the 1820 census Claverack, Columbia, NY, Roll M33-70, page 66: > > > Cornelius Van Deusen > > > 3 males to 10 > > > 2 males 10 to 16 > > > 2 males 16 to 26 > > > 1 male 45 and up > > > 1 female 10 to 16 > > > 1 female 26 to 45 > > > 1 female 45 and up > > > 5 in agriculture > > > > > > In the 1830 census also Claverack, Roll86, page 79 > > > 2 male 5 to 10 > > > 1 male 15 to 20 > > > 1 male 20 to 30 > > > 1 male to to 60 > > > 1 female 15 to 20 > > > 1 female 50 to 60 > > > > > > Also in the Dutch Reformed Church of Claverack: > > > Baptism Date: 29 Nov 1834 > > > Father: Claudius C. Van Deusen > > > Mother: Lydia Ann Mc Clean > > > Item #: 6434 > > > Child: Julia Angline > > > Sponsor: Claudius C. Van Deusen; Lydia Ann Mc Clean > > > Birth Date: 29 Oct 1834 > > > Baptism Record of Reformed Church: Claverack, (Columbia County) Reformed > > Church 1727-1899 > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------ > > > Baptism Date: 01 Sep 1839 > > > Father: Claudius Van Deusen > > > Mother: Lydia Ann Mc Clean > > > Item #: 6579 > > > Child: Jurial > > > Sponsor: Claudius Van Deusen; Lydia Ann Mc Clean > > > Birth Date: 21 Aug 1838 > > > Baptism Record of Reformed Church: Claverack, (Columbia County) Reformed > > Church > > > > > > Is this the Claude you are looking for? > > > > > > Hope this helps, > > > Susan > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > > > > > > Hello Susan, > > > > Thank you so much for the information, that is the family I am looking > > for. > > > > > > > > My problem is attempting to locate Cornelius and his son Claude from > the > > > > time period of 1820 to 1840.With what you have told me, their strange > > penchant > > > > for changing their name had been going on for awhile. There are three > > strange > > > > possiblities that bring this about, they were actaully not giving the > > correct > > > > name, someone had a speech impediment, they got the worst of the > > > > enumerators.Though I did notice in the 1855 or 65 Kinderhook census, > the > > > > enumerator was upset beause he was meeting with a great deal of > > resisitance to > > > > his questions and either getting no information or incomplete answers. > > > > > > > > Will check out the name VanDrum, the name VanDensen was also a name I > > found > > > > them as, on the 1850 census in Chatham . > > > > > > > > So I will go back and redo the census records under alot of other > names > > I > > > > hadn't thought of. > > > > I do so appreciate all that you are doing with your site, it is great! > > If you > > > > ever need help transcribing please let me know. Another question, if I > > get back > > > > down the the state library, is there something you are interested in > > from there? > > > > > > > > Thanks again, you mayhave solved a long standing mystery. > > > > > > > > Linda > > > > > > > > > > > > smulvey wrote: > > > > Hi Linda, > > > > Not sure if this is the family your are looking for but I thought I > > would > > > > send in anyway as the names are the same. > > > > > > > > From the book: "Marriage Record of Reformed Church, Claverack, New > York > > > > 1717-1899" transcribed by Arthur C.M. Kelly, Kinship, Rhinebeck, NY > > 1970. > > > > Page 24, No. 828: > > > > 4.3.1797: Cornelius van Deusen married Linje De La Matter > > > > > > > > From the book: "Baptism Record of Reformed Church Claverack, (Columbia > > > > County) New York" 1717-1899 transcribed by Arthur C.M. Kelly, Kinship, > > > > Rhinebeck, NY 1970. > > > > Page 147, No. 3216 > > > > 7.7.1799, Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. Matteus > > Abraham > > > > born 6.18, sponsors: Tobias van Deusen and Cornelis van Deusen. > > > > > > > > Page 157, No. 3429: > > > > 12.7.1800, Cornelius van Deusen and Linje de La Matter bpt. Robert > born > > > > 11.9, sponsors; Robert de La Matter and Magdalena De La Matter. > > > > > > > > Page 170, No. 3714: > > > > 7.11.1802, Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. Cloudy > born > > 6.4, > > > > sponsors Cloudius de La Matter and Lena Mandevill. > > > > > > > > Page 178, No. 3897: > > > > 11.13/1803, Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. Robert > born > > > > 10.7, sponsors; Robert van Deusen and Christina Decker. > > > > > > > > Page 191, No. 4179: > > > > 10.20.1805, Cornelius van Deusen and Cathlina De La Matter bpt. > Cornelia > > > > born 9.23, sponsors Abraham van Deusen and Arianje van Deusen. > > > > > > > > Page 202, No. 4404: > > > > 5.16.1807: Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. Maria born > > 2.8, > > > > sponsors; parents. > > > > > > > > Page 208, No. 4538: > > > > 4.18.1808: Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. Cornelius > > born > > > > 2.6, sponsors; parents. > > > > > > > > Page 224, No. 4895: > > > > 1.25.1811: Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. James > > Jeremiah > > > > born 10.16.1810, sponsors; James de La Matter and Gitty Osterhout. > > > > > > > > Page 276, No. 6040: > > > > 7.16.1820: Cornelius van Deusen and Lynje De La Matter bpt. Gilbert > born > > > > 5.22, sponsors; parents. > > > > > > > > Page 278, No. 6094: > > > > 12.11.1821: Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De Lamatter bpt. John G. > > Gebhard > > > > born 9.29, sponsors; parents. > > > > > > > > Cornelius is in the 1820 Census Claverack, Columbia County (Ancestry > > Image > > > > No. 10 under the surname of van durm??). He is in the 1830 also in > > > > Claverack (Ancestry Image No. 7 under the spelling of van Densen). > > > > > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > Susan > > > > ************************************************* > > > > "If you can't get rid of the family skeleton, you may as well make it > > > > dance." > > > > -- George Bernard Shaw > > > > Columbia County, NY Coordinator > > > > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/columbia/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >A Cornelius Vanhoesen appears in the 1820 census for Cairo and also > in > > > > >Lexington in Greene Co. There is also a Cornelius J. Vanhoesen in > > Hudson, > > > > >Columbia Co. in 1820. I realize this spelling is not correct but that > > is > > > > >the closest it came to VanDeusen when I did a search by first name > > only. > > > > > In 1830 there is a Cornelius Vanhoosen in Windham and a Cornelius I. > > Van > > > > > Deusen in Stuyvesant, Columbia Co. > > > > > For 1840. Cornelius Vandeusen at Berne in Albany Co., Cornelius > > Vandusen > > > > > in Palatine, Montgomery Co. (actually two there); Cornelius Vandusen > > at > > > > > Nassau, Rensselaeer Co., Cornelius C. Vandusen at Claverack, > Columbia > > Co., > > > > > Cornelius Vanduser at New York City, Ward 13 > > > > > 1850 > > > > > Cornelius Van Deusen in Claverack, Columbia Co. born about 1841, > same > > > > > spelling at Mohawk, Montgomery Co. born about 1800 and Cornelius C. > at > > > > > Claverack, Columbia Co. born about 1809. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Grstmll@yahoo.com" > > > > > To: > > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 7:58 AM > > > > > Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Vedder research > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Good Morning, > > > > >> So glad that you had a great trip to Europe and are back with > renewed > > > > >> "vigor" You site is priceless. > > > > >> In reference to your offer to do research, I was wondering if you > > might > > > > >> be able to help me establish the location of my 5th great > grandfather > > in > > > > >> Greene County. > > > > >> In 1813 Lynje DeLaMater wife of Cornelius VanDeusen inherited from > > her > > > > >> father Claude property in Coxsackie, right next to her brother > > Robert. I > > > > >> do have Cornelius in that area in 1810, but seem to lose them > between > > the > > > > >> Will date and 1850! > > > > >> They were apparently married in Columbia County, but believe their > > > > >> principle residence was Coxsackie as they had atleast two children > > > > >> baptized there. > > > > >> Not sure what records are available there, but would appreciate if > > you > > > > >> could use your knowledge as to where to look. > > > > >> > > > > >> Thank you for your time, and please let me know if you would like > the > > fee > > > > >> prior to your visit to the library. I can send you a check right > > away.. > > > > >> > > > > >> Thanks again, > > > > >> Linda VanDeusen-Kintzing > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Sylvia Hasenkopf wrote: > > > > >> Hello everyone. Back from vacation in Europe - had a great time! > And > > > > >> ready to get back into posting material to the list and > transcribing > > > > >> cemeteries. > > > > >> > > > > >> I''ll be heading to the Vedder Library to do some research the > first > > > > >> Thursday evening and the first Saturday morning in August. > > > > >> > > > > >> As most of you know, I can do look ups for a modest fee. Family > > files, > > > > >> probate records, newspaper records etc. > > > > >> > > > > >> If anyone is interested, let me know. 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