This book is online on the Columbia Co gennet, I looked for it and found it there. Jane Wood ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Groat" <jgroat1@midsouth.rr.com> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 9:42 PM Subject: RE: [GREENE COUNTY] Re: Roll Call-Athens-Brooks, Joshua > There's another excellent book that I have buried here somewhere in this > room I call a research room -- the reason I call it that is because I have > to re-search it again and again when I want to find something. Anyway, I > can't put my fingers on it but the title is something like "A Parish > Between > Two Manors." It's about the Reformed Church at Claverack. When we had a > family reunion in Columbia County back in 1986 when I published my book, > we > were given a tour of the old Church worship building and given a brief > talk > about the history of the Church. Those people went there each Sunday from > miles around and made a day of it -- Summer and Winter. Knowing the > weather > there, it just amazes me! > > If you have some specific baptisms/marriages you need, I may be able to > help > you. Email me off line and ask. > > Regards, > Jim > > | -----Original Message----- > | From: James Brady [mailto:brady.j@att.net] > | Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 5:21 PM > | To: NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com > | Subject: RE: [GREENE COUNTY] Re: Roll Call-Athens-Brooks, Joshua > | > | Hi Jim, > | > | Well the Van Loons were originally in the Albany area, but early on > | established themselves at Loonenburg in present-day Athens. He rented > the > | place out for some few years before actually taking possession in the > late > | 1600's. I think he arrived only a little later than Jan Bronk did at > | Coxsackie. > | > | Some of the families in the Claverack area like the Columbia County > | Hallenbeck branch and the Van Hoesens worshipped at the Lutheran church > | that > | was established on Van Loon land across the river. > | > | I suspect that some of the trouble I have in researching a few of the > | Athens > | families is that they weren't Athens families. I need to look at the > | records > | of the St. Thomas Lutheran Church of Churchtown (Claverack) the next > time > | I > | get to the library to see if they show up there. Some of these families > | may > | have crossed the river back and forth, after this church was formed, > | depending upon which church currently had a pastor. > | > | The first Lutheran pastor at Loonenburg ranged over a very wide area > | ministering to anyone who'd let him. > | > | For anyone who is interested in that early time period there is a very > | interesting book out: > | The Albany Protocol; Wilhelm Christoph Berkenmeyer's chronicle of > | Lutheran affairs in New York Colony, 1731-1750. Translated by Simon Hart > | and > | Sibrandina Geertruid Hart-Runeman. Translation initiated by Harry J. > | Kreider. Edited by John P. Dern. Ann Arbor, Mich, 1971. > | It's a translation of the pastor's record and includes all kinds of neat > | little tidbits about himself and his co-religionists. Including a > meeting > | held to discuss repairing the pier used by the church members from > across > | the river. > | > | But yeah, lots of families moved westward across the river. Some, as I > | said, > | were, I think, leaving rented lands from the two large manors. Each > | generation would have to re-let the land at a higher rate of pay if they > | wanted to stay. > | > | After the Revolutionary War, land on the western reaches of Greene > County > | would have been cleared of hostile Indians who importunely sided with > the > | British. The New England whalers who had tired of being harassed by the > | British navy bought Hudson and added more commerce right across from > | Athens. > | I assume that commerce and people spilled over into Athens. And after > the > | war, with the Bristish masters out of the way, all kinds of land became > | available. Some was given away in bounty payments in western NY, but > | closer > | to here all kinds of pending land issues were resolved under the > auspices > | of > | the new government. And without stretching this list too far, much land > | was > | formally subdivided around this time by the heirs of earlier generations > | making it available for sale. > | > | Jim > | > | -----Original Message----- > | From: Jim Groat [mailto:jgroat1@midsouth.rr.com] > | Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 5:29 PM > | To: NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com > | Subject: RE: [GREENE COUNTY] Re: Roll Call-Athens-Brooks, Joshua > | > | > | Jim, > | > | You must be reading my mind. I've been watching with some amazement the > | numbrer of family names popping up here that originate in Columbia > County! > | The Deckers, Dederichs, Brandaus, Hollenbecks, VanLoans, Vosburghs, Van > | Hoesens,etc., etc. > | > | Regards, > | Jim Groat > | > | | -----Original Message----- > | | From: James Brady [mailto:brady.j@att.net] > | | Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 11:48 AM > | | To: NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com > | | Subject: RE: [GREENE COUNTY] Re: Roll Call-Athens-Brooks, Joshua > | > | > | | I tend to think of the Deckers as a Columbia County family. I've seen > | | their > | | records in the Claverack and Linlithgo churches, probably others as > | well. > | | Maybe he came over from there. > | | > | | It's probably worth pointing out here that as I've been looking > through > | | census records lately it's interesting how many people came to Greene > | from > | | Rensselaer and Columbia Counties some time after the Revolutionary War > | | period. Quite a few of them moved to the interior of Greene or the > more > | | western areas and firmly planted themselves there. The Van > Valkenburghs > | in > | | Prattsville come to mind. I think some of these people may have left > | | rented > | | lands of the Livingstons or the Van Rensselaers for the opportunity to > | own > | | land in newly opened areas. > | | > | | Jim > | | > | | > | | ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > | | Your on-line source for Greene County history and genealogy. Stop on > by > | | and find your lost link! > | | http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > | | > | | ============================== > | | New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > | ancestors > | | at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. 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