Don't forget the Indians that stayed and married the whites. -------------------------------------------------------------- <<<After the Revolutionary War, land on the western reaches of Greene County would have been cleared of hostile Indians who importunely sided with the>>> British. ----- Original Message ----- ---- Hi Elaine, Well, yes, but those would have been the VERY friendly indians. Not the hostile ones. I've got a Van Slyck line of descent that takes me back to a Mohawk maiden. Jan Bronk's brother Peter is said to have taken an indian wife and disappeared from society's records. Some of the indian descent stories are false, but if you go back early enough in New York's history some of them prove out. If your people were here early enough, all kinds of things are possible. If you look through the early Athens Lutheran records you will find the marriage of Peter Christiaanse, a Madagascar slave of Jan Van Loon, to Elisabeth Brandemoes, a white Palatine woman whose husband had died. They baptized six children. I just meant that the indians were no longer dragging Abeels and Snyders off into the woods on their way to Canada. [see pgs. 103-5 of History of Greene County(Sylvia may have the story on her website)] Jim

Hi Jim, What you say is true. I am a member of the Wiquapaug Eastern Pequot Tribe of RI and CT. I go there to be with the tribe often. It took me 50 years to find my father's people as Indians would marry white and try to "pass". I grew up in New Berlin, Chenango County, which is about 10 miles from the old Brotherton Reservation. I get a kick when I read old census images where my cousins all the sudden are written down as white if they moved off the reservation and married white. My father was the only one of six children to be told of his Indian blood. It was hard to hide his Indian blood as he had coal black straight hair, dark skin and all the features. You kept it hidden and denied, denied, denied. Indians are still discriminated against. If you were Indian the government would come and take your children and send them to boarding schools to beat the Indian out of them. The Carlisle school in PA. is one of those schools. That was in this century. Woops. I should say the 1900s. Their clothing and medicine bags, etc., were thrown away and their hair was cut and they had to learn how to run a sewing machine or become a blacksmith. The saying was that you killed the Indian to save the child. The children commited suicide, ran away or families were lost forever. The Emancipation Proclamation freed the slaves but did NOT free the Indians. Indians were not made citizens until 1923 or 24, can't remember the exact year. They could not inherit land or personal property and ended up on the street if their white spouse died. I could go on and on. If there are rumors of an Indian in your family it is probably true but you will not find out who, when or where unless you spend 50 years searching like I did. It is usually a very tight secret. Elaine, a red haired, blue eyed member of an Indian tribe. I am so proud they accepted me. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Brady" <brady.j@att.net> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 11:28 PM Subject: RE: [GREENE COUNTY] Re: Roll Call-Athens-Brooks, Joshua > Don't forget the Indians that stayed and married the whites. > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > <<<After the Revolutionary War, land on the western reaches of Greene > County > would have been cleared of hostile Indians who importunely sided with > the>>> > British. ----- Original Message ----- > ---- > Hi Elaine, > > Well, yes, but those would have been the VERY friendly indians. Not the > hostile ones. > > I've got a Van Slyck line of descent that takes me back to a Mohawk > maiden. > Jan Bronk's brother Peter is said to have taken an indian wife and > disappeared from society's records. > > Some of the indian descent stories are false, but if you go back early > enough in New York's history some of them prove out. If your people were > here early enough, all kinds of things are possible. > > If you look through the early Athens Lutheran records you will find the > marriage of Peter Christiaanse, a Madagascar slave of Jan Van Loon, to > Elisabeth Brandemoes, a white Palatine woman whose husband had died. They > baptized six children. > > I just meant that the indians were no longer dragging Abeels and Snyders > off > into the woods on their way to Canada. [see pgs. 103-5 of History of > Greene > County(Sylvia may have the story on her website)] > > Jim > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Over 1400 pages of Greene County information, fully indexed, to help you > find your lost link! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >