After perusing the Schermerhorn Gen - I know that my connection is NOT present. I suggest that the John Schermerhorn who was present in Athens at the Episcopal Church is the father of my Margaret b. 1812 at Athens ( appears she might be Magdalena). No female listed at baptism - what a regrettable piece of bad luck. Maggie's death record says mother is "Maria" - with a very sketchy hand - and given info by her youngest daughter Alice Collins at Fulton, Oswego Co. To match this in tandem, a marriage record at Athens in 1836 to John Roberts is also present. That was indeed her husband. There appears also at Athens a Henry Schermerhorn married there in 1796 to Polly Van Valkenburgh at the Zion Lutheran Church. One child Hetty baptized - he disappears. On the same page as the birth of Maggie in 1812 are listed Parmentiers - one John Schermerhorn married Maria Palmatier at Rhinebeck ca. 1763 and indeed they have sons John and Henry and 8 others - is This the John who m. 1801 at Rhinebeck to Anna Maria Kreisler ? Her father John Kreisler appears to be the John Kreisler who was baptized at Athens 1720 - then Loonenburgh but later removed to W. Copake. So here we have at least an old Lutheran Athens connection and a Maria wife of a John - albeit Anna Maria. This particular Anna Maria was b. 1770 at Rhinebeck perhaps at 42 a little old to be Maggie's mum. I do think it interesting the final intersection of a Maria and a John together - Parmentiers at Athens - a Henry present at Athens and John Schermerhorn as possible brothers,. tra la. jack