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    1. [NYGREENE] !Re: Battalion
    2. Sylvia Hasenkopf
    3. Oiii - great clarification Ron - I decided to say the battalion was somewhere between 300 and 1,300 men during the Rev War. That should be safe! LOL Sylvia -------------------------------------------------- From: "~ Ron W. ~" <ronwaldron@verizon.net> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 4:49 PM To: <nygreene@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Battalion > > What might clarify: We evolved thru a number of configurations over the > years; I think the triad was first, which meant 3 Co.'s to a Bn., then as > weaponry and manning changed we went a quad. configuration which would > mean > 4 Co.'s and when the Pentagon was built the magic Nr. went to five. > Haven't > the foggiest idea where it is today, probly depends largely on the > Infantry > weapons provided, e.g. I do know that when DoD pushed .30 cal. machine > guns > down to the Plt. level (one for right flank and one for left flank) it > added > a gunner and ammo bearer for each, to the already standard 4 Squads of 8 > men > each. > If you'd only sign up for a hitch in the Army you could find out about all > this stuff.... :) > > ~ Ron W ~ > In God We Trust, All Others We Monitor > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sylvia Hasenkopf" <esi@francomm.com> > To: <nygreene@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 2:51 PM > Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Battalion > > >> Thanks Ron - clear as mud to me, but I think I've got it~ LOL >> Sylvia >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "~ Ron W. ~" <ronwaldron@verizon.net> >> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 2:16 PM >> To: <nygreene@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Battalion >> >>> >>> A Battalion consists of a number of Companies, this number has varied >>> from >>> 3 >>> to 5 over the years. We've recently settled on 4. An Infantry Co. >>> consists >>> of 4 platoons, each having 4 x 8 man Squads or 33 -34 men counting their >>> Plt. Sgt. and Plt Leader. So 34 x 4 = 136 + 1 Field 1st Sgt + 1 !st Sgt >>> + >>> 1 >>> Exec. Officer + 1 Company Commander = 140 per Co. * 4 = 560 per >>> Battalion >>> + >>> 1 Sgt. Major + 1 XO + 1 CO + 1 Adjutant = 564 per Bn. >>> Note that a Bn. usually includes a Hq., Hq., & Service Co. to hold the >>> Command Staff, Personnel, Supply, and other overhead functions. So that >>> would add another 140, or so, = 700 total, and if the Companies are >>> reinforced Co.'s you add another support Platoon to each. >>> But many in the Civil War marched off to battle at or near full strength >>> and >>> were reduced to <10% in their first battle. Casualties were higher than >>> any >>> war before or since. >>> >>> ~ Ron W ~ >>> In God We Trust, All Others We Monitor >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Sylvia Hasenkopf" <esi@francomm.com> >>> To: <nygreene@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 12:01 PM >>> Subject: [NYGREENE] Battalion >>> >>> >>>> OK folks - I am writing an article on the Land Bounty lands in NYS. >>>> Anyone >>>> know how many men in a battalion during the Rev War? >>>> >>>> I see online that a current battalion can have between 300 and 1,300 >>>> men - >>>> does that sound right? >>>> >>>> Sylvia >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/16/2011 10:55:17
    1. Re: [NYGREENE] !Re: Battalion
    2. ~ Ron W. ~
    3. Just from my reading of military history, I'd say you are close with the 300 number - 3 Co.'s at 100 each..... Remember that the Militia's were much lighter.... don't have a number. ~ Ron W ~ In God We Trust, All Others We Monitor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sylvia Hasenkopf" <esi@francomm.com> To: <nygreene@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 4:55 PM Subject: [NYGREENE] !Re: Battalion > Oiii - great clarification Ron - I decided to say the battalion was > somewhere between 300 and 1,300 men during the Rev War. That should be > safe! > LOL > Sylvia > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "~ Ron W. ~" <ronwaldron@verizon.net> > Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 4:49 PM > To: <nygreene@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Battalion > >> >> What might clarify: We evolved thru a number of configurations over the >> years; I think the triad was first, which meant 3 Co.'s to a Bn., then as >> weaponry and manning changed we went a quad. configuration which would >> mean >> 4 Co.'s and when the Pentagon was built the magic Nr. went to five. >> Haven't >> the foggiest idea where it is today, probly depends largely on the >> Infantry >> weapons provided, e.g. I do know that when DoD pushed .30 cal. machine >> guns >> down to the Plt. level (one for right flank and one for left flank) it >> added >> a gunner and ammo bearer for each, to the already standard 4 Squads of 8 >> men >> each. >> If you'd only sign up for a hitch in the Army you could find out about >> all >> this stuff.... :) >> >> ~ Ron W ~ >> In God We Trust, All Others We Monitor >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sylvia Hasenkopf" <esi@francomm.com> >> To: <nygreene@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 2:51 PM >> Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Battalion >> >> >>> Thanks Ron - clear as mud to me, but I think I've got it~ LOL >>> Sylvia >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "~ Ron W. ~" <ronwaldron@verizon.net> >>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 2:16 PM >>> To: <nygreene@rootsweb.com> >>> Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Battalion >>> >>>> >>>> A Battalion consists of a number of Companies, this number has varied >>>> from >>>> 3 >>>> to 5 over the years. We've recently settled on 4. An Infantry Co. >>>> consists >>>> of 4 platoons, each having 4 x 8 man Squads or 33 -34 men counting >>>> their >>>> Plt. Sgt. and Plt Leader. So 34 x 4 = 136 + 1 Field 1st Sgt + 1 !st Sgt >>>> + >>>> 1 >>>> Exec. Officer + 1 Company Commander = 140 per Co. * 4 = 560 per >>>> Battalion >>>> + >>>> 1 Sgt. Major + 1 XO + 1 CO + 1 Adjutant = 564 per Bn. >>>> Note that a Bn. usually includes a Hq., Hq., & Service Co. to hold the >>>> Command Staff, Personnel, Supply, and other overhead functions. So that >>>> would add another 140, or so, = 700 total, and if the Companies are >>>> reinforced Co.'s you add another support Platoon to each. >>>> But many in the Civil War marched off to battle at or near full >>>> strength >>>> and >>>> were reduced to <10% in their first battle. Casualties were higher than >>>> any >>>> war before or since. >>>> >>>> ~ Ron W ~ >>>> In God We Trust, All Others We Monitor >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Sylvia Hasenkopf" <esi@francomm.com> >>>> To: <nygreene@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 12:01 PM >>>> Subject: [NYGREENE] Battalion >>>> >>>> >>>>> OK folks - I am writing an article on the Land Bounty lands in NYS. >>>>> Anyone >>>>> know how many men in a battalion during the Rev War? >>>>> >>>>> I see online that a current battalion can have between 300 and 1,300 >>>>> men - >>>>> does that sound right? >>>>> >>>>> Sylvia >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/16/2011 11:14:22