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    1. Re: [NYGREENE] Etta Haines
    2. Sylvia Hasenkopf
    3. Charles E. had a brother George Washington, but he died in 1936 -------------------------------------------------- From: "Susan Egnor" <stegnor@comcast.net> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 3:10 PM To: <nygreene@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Etta Haines > > The 1870 census for Catskill shows a Charles I (?) Haines with wife > Diadamy. > The wife's name is so unusual, this could be the same person. > > -----Original Message----- > From: nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Dippy1951@aol.com > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 11:54 AM > To: nygreene@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Etta Haines > > I don't know the date of their marriage. They are buried in Maplewood > Cemetery > Maplewood Cemetery > Charles E Hanes 1857-1934 (Back) > Deborah A Layman wife 1861-1941 > Wifford 1882-1903 > > I'm still trying to find a brother of Charles who may have died before > 1880. I can't seem to find Charles Sr in the 1870 census > > > In a message dated 4/7/2011 2:42:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > stegnor@comcast.net writes: > > Something to note is that both Charles E. and Etta list themselves as > married in the 1880 census, although there is no spouse in their > respective > listings. You report Charles E married Deborah Layman--what was the date > of > that marriage? Mazeppa Brewer's marriage to Etta Haines was reported in > the > press as "Married, . . .in P r a t t s v i l l e , J u ly > 8th . by t h e Rev. W i l l i am Greene. .M. T . Brewer and Mrs. Ettie > Haines , both of Hunter." > > Was there a male sibling to Charles E who died before 1883? > > -----Original Message----- > From: nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Dippy1951@aol.com > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 7:43 AM > To: nygreene@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Etta Haines > > I have been checking on the Charles E Haines angle, but still can't come > to > a conclusion. I've done quite a bit of research on him, as his sister > Elisabeth b. 1828 was my GGGrandmother. The wife "Dame" listed in the > 1880 > census was Diadema Webster. I've been able to locate 3 children but > there > may > be more. They were Martha b. 1851, George Washington b. 1854, and > Charles > Edgar b. 1857. Another possible child was Edward b. 1869 but I can't > verify > > that. George married Nellie Layman, and Charles married Deborah Layman > who > was probably her sister. I suspect there could have been another son > that > I > > haven't found yet who was Alice's father. From what I found about 10 > members of this Haines family, Charles Sr's parents, siblings, etc, all > died in a > 6 or 7 year period so quite a few Haines households had grandchildren, > nieces and nephews living with them. > I'll continue trying to connect Alice Jones to Etta, as she sounds like > the > only connection that could tie this all up. > > > In a message dated 4/6/2011 9:08:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > stegnor@comcast.net writes: > > One possible answer is Charles E. Haines. In the 1880 census, he was > living > with his parents,Charles and Dame (spelled variously, but this is the > 1880 > census spelling) in Hunter. Living with them was Alice Haines, age 5, > described as the senior Charles Haines' granddaughter. Nobody else was > in > the household. > > Ettie Haines and Mazeppa Brewer had 2 daughters: Esther Elberta Brewer b > 22 > June 1884 and Ida Brewer, born 3 Dec 1885. Esther married married > Frederick > Egnor. Ida married George Mower. Per the Fulton Postcard site, in > January > 1948, Schenectady Gazette reported death of Alice May Jones, born Haines > Falls, Feb 5, 1876. Survivors included two half-sisters, Mrs. Ida > Mower, > Newburgh, and Mrs. Frederick Egnor, Catskill. I believe this Alice > Haines > is Ettie Haines daughter. While it appears she was also Charles and > Dame > Haines granddaughter, it's not clear that Charles E. Haines, the > younger, > was her father. > > I would appreciate comments. I went looking for an Alice Haines, and > found > one, and only one in the approximate right place and time. Without > more,however, I can't be positive a) this Alice is the woman who became > Alice May Jones (who, with her husband of 7 years, was living in Hunter > in > the 1900 census). > > Thanks, > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Dippy1951@aol.com > Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:09 PM > To: nygreene@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NYGREENE] Etta Haines > > Here's a brain teaser Sue Egnor and I worked on last month. In the 1880 > census, Etta Haines was listed as 20yrs. old, married, and working as a > servant in the home of Catherine Rickerson in Cairo. On July 8, 1883, > "Mrs. > Ettie > Haines" was married to Mazeppa Brewer in Windham. Through some great > detective work, Sue was able to determine that Etta was Esther > Whittaker, > daughter of Francis and Margaret Whittaker of Catskill. We're still > trying > to > find out who the Haines was that Esther was married to. He was probably > born > 1855-1860, married about 1879 or 1880, and died about 1881 or so. Does > any > of this ring a bell to anyone? > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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