Pelletreau - Genealogical & Family History of NY: 1. William Whitmore Van Loan, b. 16 June 1792. 2. Matthew Dies Van Loan, b. 28 Sep 1794. Probably named for his maternal grandfather. Agnes -----Original Message----- From: nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sylvia Hasenkopf Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 4:46 PM To: nygreene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Roll call! The Linlithgo RDC in Columbia Co has a baptism for William Whitmore Van Loan, son of Isaac Van Loan and Jane Diel. William is born June 16, 1792 and was baptised July 15, 1792. Is this Jane Diel the same as Jane Dies? Isaac Van Loan and Jane Dies had son Matthew Dies Van Loan, born abt 1792. Any thoughts? Sylvia -------------------------------------------------- From: "Agnes Beauchamp" <deuxbeaus@chartertn.net> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 4:28 PM To: <nygreene@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Roll call! > > I have seen him as the son of Petrus Van Loon and Dirckje deGarma(Albany > Protocol). De Boer gives her name as Dirkje Visscher. > Agnes Dies Beauchamp > > -----Original Message----- > From: nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Sylvia Hasenkopf > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 2:46 PM > To: nygreene@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NYGREENE] Roll call! > > Wow, it has been super quiet on the list the last while - I can't imagine > that everyone has discovered all the answers to their genealogical > questions! > > I'll start off - does anyone know who the parents were of Isaac Van Loan > who > married Jane Dies? He was a sloop captain on the Hudson River in the very > early years of the 19th century. > > Sylvia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Agnes, I have found Isaac Van Loan's tombstone in the Catskill Village cemetery. It states that he died 14 Nov 1840 aged 72 yrs. That would put his date of birth abt 1768. Isaac Van Loan who married Jane Diel (I am now thinking likely Tiel is her maiden name) was born 25 Jan 1759, baptised at the Athens Zion Lutheran Church in 1759. It appears these are completely two different Isaacs. Sylvia -------------------------------------------------- From: "Agnes Beauchamp" <deuxbeaus@chartertn.net> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 11:53 AM To: <nygreene@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Roll call! > > Pelletreau - Genealogical & Family History of NY: > 1. William Whitmore Van Loan, b. 16 June 1792. > 2. Matthew Dies Van Loan, b. 28 Sep 1794. Probably named for his maternal > grandfather. > > Agnes > > -----Original Message----- > From: nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Sylvia Hasenkopf > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 4:46 PM > To: nygreene@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Roll call! > > The Linlithgo RDC in Columbia Co has a baptism for William Whitmore Van > Loan, son of Isaac Van Loan and Jane Diel. William is born June 16, 1792 > and > > was baptised July 15, 1792. > > Is this Jane Diel the same as Jane Dies? > > Isaac Van Loan and Jane Dies had son Matthew Dies Van Loan, born abt 1792. > > Any thoughts? > > Sylvia > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Agnes Beauchamp" <deuxbeaus@chartertn.net> > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 4:28 PM > To: <nygreene@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Roll call! > >> >> I have seen him as the son of Petrus Van Loon and Dirckje deGarma(Albany >> Protocol). De Boer gives her name as Dirkje Visscher. >> Agnes Dies Beauchamp >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of Sylvia Hasenkopf >> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 2:46 PM >> To: nygreene@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [NYGREENE] Roll call! >> >> Wow, it has been super quiet on the list the last while - I can't imagine >> that everyone has discovered all the answers to their genealogical >> questions! >> >> I'll start off - does anyone know who the parents were of Isaac Van Loan >> who >> married Jane Dies? He was a sloop captain on the Hudson River in the very >> early years of the 19th century. >> >> Sylvia >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I did not dig deeply into this data on Isaac Van Loan, as he and his wife are a side branch of my Dies family. As for Pelletreau, I think I remember reading a statement (incorrect) he made that there were no male descendants of the Dies family. Where, I wondered, did I come from? But in all fairness, he would not have had any knowledge of my branch who moved back to Canada in 1817. They had evacuated NY City with the British in 1783 and spent time in Quebec until the 1790s when they returned to Schoharie Co. There is a discrepancy in the Isaac Van Loan (s/o Petrus VL and Dirkje Visscher or Degarma) DOB: De Boer has it as 1768. He says that this Isaac married Jane Dies, d/o Matthew Dies and Evva Van Loan. The Albany Protocol has it as 25 Jan 1757, but does not follow him further. So there you are. A quandary. Agnes -----Original Message----- From: nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sylvia Hasenkopf Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 1:03 PM To: nygreene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Roll call! Agnes, I have found Isaac Van Loan's tombstone in the Catskill Village cemetery. It states that he died 14 Nov 1840 aged 72 yrs. That would put his date of birth abt 1768. Isaac Van Loan who married Jane Diel (I am now thinking likely Tiel is her maiden name) was born 25 Jan 1759, baptised at the Athens Zion Lutheran Church in 1759. It appears these are completely two different Isaacs. Sylvia -------------------------------------------------- From: "Agnes Beauchamp" <deuxbeaus@chartertn.net> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 11:53 AM To: <nygreene@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Roll call! > > Pelletreau - Genealogical & Family History of NY: > 1. William Whitmore Van Loan, b. 16 June 1792. > 2. Matthew Dies Van Loan, b. 28 Sep 1794. Probably named for his maternal > grandfather. > > Agnes > > -----Original Message----- > From: nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Sylvia Hasenkopf > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 4:46 PM > To: nygreene@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Roll call! > > The Linlithgo RDC in Columbia Co has a baptism for William Whitmore Van > Loan, son of Isaac Van Loan and Jane Diel. William is born June 16, 1792 > and > > was baptised July 15, 1792. > > Is this Jane Diel the same as Jane Dies? > > Isaac Van Loan and Jane Dies had son Matthew Dies Van Loan, born abt 1792. > > Any thoughts? > > Sylvia > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Agnes Beauchamp" <deuxbeaus@chartertn.net> > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 4:28 PM > To: <nygreene@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Roll call! > >> >> I have seen him as the son of Petrus Van Loon and Dirckje deGarma(Albany >> Protocol). De Boer gives her name as Dirkje Visscher. >> Agnes Dies Beauchamp >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of Sylvia Hasenkopf >> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 2:46 PM >> To: nygreene@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [NYGREENE] Roll call! >> >> Wow, it has been super quiet on the list the last while - I can't imagine >> that everyone has discovered all the answers to their genealogical >> questions! >> >> I'll start off - does anyone know who the parents were of Isaac Van Loan >> who >> married Jane Dies? He was a sloop captain on the Hudson River in the very >> early years of the 19th century. >> >> Sylvia >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Exactly = thanks Agnes! Sylvia -------------------------------------------------- From: "Agnes Beauchamp" <deuxbeaus@chartertn.net> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 7:37 AM To: <nygreene@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Roll call! > > I did not dig deeply into this data on Isaac Van Loan, as he and his wife > are a side branch of my Dies family. As for Pelletreau, I think I remember > reading a statement (incorrect) he made that there were no male > descendants > of the Dies family. Where, I wondered, did I come from? But in all > fairness, > he would not have had any knowledge of my branch who moved back to Canada > in > 1817. They had evacuated NY City with the British in 1783 and spent time > in > Quebec until the 1790s when they returned to Schoharie Co. > > There is a discrepancy in the Isaac Van Loan (s/o Petrus VL and Dirkje > Visscher or Degarma) DOB: De Boer has it as 1768. He says that this Isaac > married Jane Dies, d/o Matthew Dies and Evva Van Loan. The Albany Protocol > has it as 25 Jan 1757, but does not follow him further. So there you are. > A > quandary. > > Agnes > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Sylvia Hasenkopf > Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 1:03 PM > To: nygreene@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Roll call! > > Agnes, I have found Isaac Van Loan's tombstone in the Catskill Village > cemetery. It states that he died 14 Nov 1840 aged 72 yrs. That would put > his > > date of birth abt 1768. Isaac Van Loan who married Jane Diel (I am now > thinking likely Tiel is her maiden name) was born 25 Jan 1759, baptised at > the Athens Zion Lutheran Church in 1759. It appears these are completely > two > > different Isaacs. > > Sylvia > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Agnes Beauchamp" <deuxbeaus@chartertn.net> > Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 11:53 AM > To: <nygreene@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Roll call! > >> >> Pelletreau - Genealogical & Family History of NY: >> 1. William Whitmore Van Loan, b. 16 June 1792. >> 2. Matthew Dies Van Loan, b. 28 Sep 1794. Probably named for his maternal >> grandfather. >> >> Agnes >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of Sylvia Hasenkopf >> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 4:46 PM >> To: nygreene@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Roll call! >> >> The Linlithgo RDC in Columbia Co has a baptism for William Whitmore Van >> Loan, son of Isaac Van Loan and Jane Diel. William is born June 16, 1792 >> and >> >> was baptised July 15, 1792. >> >> Is this Jane Diel the same as Jane Dies? >> >> Isaac Van Loan and Jane Dies had son Matthew Dies Van Loan, born abt >> 1792. >> >> Any thoughts? >> >> Sylvia >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Agnes Beauchamp" <deuxbeaus@chartertn.net> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 4:28 PM >> To: <nygreene@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Roll call! >> >>> >>> I have seen him as the son of Petrus Van Loon and Dirckje deGarma(Albany >>> Protocol). De Boer gives her name as Dirkje Visscher. >>> Agnes Dies Beauchamp >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> [mailto:nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com] >>> On Behalf Of Sylvia Hasenkopf >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 2:46 PM >>> To: nygreene@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [NYGREENE] Roll call! >>> >>> Wow, it has been super quiet on the list the last while - I can't >>> imagine >>> that everyone has discovered all the answers to their genealogical >>> questions! >>> >>> I'll start off - does anyone know who the parents were of Isaac Van Loan >>> who >>> married Jane Dies? He was a sloop captain on the Hudson River in the >>> very >>> early years of the 19th century. >>> >>> Sylvia >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message