Too late, Sylvia, I sent mine out this morning, with the wrong zip. I should have known ! Lorna > From: esi@francomm.com > To: nygreene@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 14:24:42 -0400 > Subject: [NYGREENE] PICO donations > > Hi folks it was brought to my attention that I gave you the wrong zip code on the address. Here is the corrected address - sorry for the confusion! > > Sylvia Hasenkopf > 155 Edison Timmerman Rd > Cairo, NY > 12413 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My letter went out with whatever the zip was in the first message. Good luck and let us know if you get enough money to cover your expenses. Ray Smith

12423 zip is East Durham so hopefully the letters will find their way to Cairo. On 4/14/2011 4:05 PM, carolfaby@comcast.net wrote: > Wonder where our letters will end up? > > Carol > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: lorna puleo<lorna.doone1@live.com> > To: nygreene@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 20:57:47 -0000 (UTC) > Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] PICO donations > > > Too late, Sylvia, I sent mine out this morning, with the wrong zip. I should have known ! > Lorna > >> From: esi@francomm.com >> To: nygreene@rootsweb.com >> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 14:24:42 -0400 >> Subject: [NYGREENE] PICO donations >> >> Hi folks it was brought to my attention that I gave you the wrong zip code on the address. Here is the corrected address - sorry for the confusion! >> >> Sylvia Hasenkopf >> 155 Edison Timmerman Rd >> Cairo, NY >> 12413 >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you Linda! -------------------------------------------------- From: "Linda Larsen" <beloved@mhcable.com> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 1:57 PM To: <nygreene@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] PICO search > > Sylvia - you put the wrong zip code .... might want to correct :) > > -----Original Message----- > From: nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Sylvia Hasenkopf > Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 5:14 PM > To: nygreene@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NYGREENE] PICO search > > Hi folks - it is that time of year once again, where I send out a donation > request, to support the PICO search engine costs and transcription work I > have underway. This is purely voluntary and not mandatory. As you all know > there is much work that goes into the projects on the Tracing Your Roots > in > Greene Co website and the PICO search engine is crucial to searching the > site. If you are interested my address is: > > Sylvia Hasenkopf > 155 Edison Timmerman Rd > Cairo, NY 12423 > > I thank you in advance! > > Sylvia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi folks it was brought to my attention that I gave you the wrong zip code on the address. Here is the corrected address - sorry for the confusion! Sylvia Hasenkopf 155 Edison Timmerman Rd Cairo, NY 12413

Sylvia - you put the wrong zip code .... might want to correct :) -----Original Message----- From: nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sylvia Hasenkopf Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 5:14 PM To: nygreene@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYGREENE] PICO search Hi folks - it is that time of year once again, where I send out a donation request, to support the PICO search engine costs and transcription work I have underway. This is purely voluntary and not mandatory. As you all know there is much work that goes into the projects on the Tracing Your Roots in Greene Co website and the PICO search engine is crucial to searching the site. If you are interested my address is: Sylvia Hasenkopf 155 Edison Timmerman Rd Cairo, NY 12423 I thank you in advance! Sylvia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Sylvia! -------------------------------------------------- From: <sylviasmagin@aol.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 8:27 AM To: <nygreene@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] NYGREENE Digest, Vol 6, Issue 60 > > Hi Sylvia, > > My check is going out today. You do a marvelous job and the least we can > do is help defray the costs. > > Sylvia Magin > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nygreene-request <nygreene-request@rootsweb.com> > To: nygreene <nygreene@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tue, Apr 12, 2011 3:29 am > Subject: NYGREENE Digest, Vol 6, Issue 60 > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. PICO search (Sylvia Hasenkopf) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 17:13:36 -0400 > > From: "Sylvia Hasenkopf" <esi@francomm.com> > > Subject: [NYGREENE] PICO search > > To: <nygreene@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: <4307FF18136D45BAB62B5484C954830B@HasenkopfHP> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Hi folks - it is that time of year once again, where I send out a donation > > request, to support the PICO search engine costs and transcription work I > have > > underway. This is purely voluntary and not mandatory. As you all know > there is > > much work that goes into the projects on the Tracing Your Roots in Greene > Co > > website and the PICO search engine is crucial to searching the site. If > you are > > interested my address is: > > > > Sylvia Hasenkopf > > 155 Edison Timmerman Rd > > Cairo, NY 12423 > > > > I thank you in advance! > > > > Sylvia > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > To contact the NYGREENE list administrator, send an email to > > NYGREENE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > > To post a message to the NYGREENE mailing list, send an email to > > NYGREENE@rootsweb.com. > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > > the > > email with no additional text. > > > > > > End of NYGREENE Digest, Vol 6, Issue 60 > > *************************************** > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Sylvia, My check is going out today. You do a marvelous job and the least we can do is help defray the costs. Sylvia Magin -----Original Message----- From: nygreene-request <nygreene-request@rootsweb.com> To: nygreene <nygreene@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Apr 12, 2011 3:29 am Subject: NYGREENE Digest, Vol 6, Issue 60 Today's Topics: 1. PICO search (Sylvia Hasenkopf) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 17:13:36 -0400 From: "Sylvia Hasenkopf" <esi@francomm.com> Subject: [NYGREENE] PICO search To: <nygreene@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <4307FF18136D45BAB62B5484C954830B@HasenkopfHP> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi folks - it is that time of year once again, where I send out a donation request, to support the PICO search engine costs and transcription work I have underway. This is purely voluntary and not mandatory. As you all know there is much work that goes into the projects on the Tracing Your Roots in Greene Co website and the PICO search engine is crucial to searching the site. If you are interested my address is: Sylvia Hasenkopf 155 Edison Timmerman Rd Cairo, NY 12423 I thank you in advance! Sylvia ------------------------------ To contact the NYGREENE list administrator, send an email to NYGREENE-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the NYGREENE mailing list, send an email to NYGREENE@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of NYGREENE Digest, Vol 6, Issue 60 ***************************************

Hi folks - it is that time of year once again, where I send out a donation request, to support the PICO search engine costs and transcription work I have underway. This is purely voluntary and not mandatory. As you all know there is much work that goes into the projects on the Tracing Your Roots in Greene Co website and the PICO search engine is crucial to searching the site. If you are interested my address is: Sylvia Hasenkopf 155 Edison Timmerman Rd Cairo, NY 12423 I thank you in advance! Sylvia

THE TROY NEWSPAPER PROJECT A multi volume Index of Death and Marriage Records transcribed from various Troy, NY newspapers A. The Troy New York Daily Post for the years 1846 to 1851 is the FIFTH set of newspapers recently added to the Troy Irish Genealogy Website. There are 2,343 reported deaths and 2,143 names on the reported marriages during this period. These records will be of great interest to genealogy researchers since the information in this data base predates the 1880 New York State law requiring the reporting of death and marriage records. These records may help with breaking down some of those "brick walls" that you have been struggling with. B. You can view these records by going to the Troy Irish Genealogy website at: www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ and click on PROJECTS and then click on THE TROY NEWSPAPER PROJECT. It should be noted that these records, like most of the TIGS data series, cover the general population in the area and are NOT restricted to Irish surnames. C. One of the interesting deaths reported is the one for John Jacob Astor. Johann Jacob Astor was born July 17, 1763 in Walldorf, Palatinate, Germany and died March 29, 1848 in New York City. At the time of his death he was one of the wealthiest people in America with a fortune of 20 million dollars which is equivalent to 110 billion dollars in 2006 dollars. He is buried in Trinity Churchyard in New York City. D. While 1,339 of the marriage records showed no indication of residence, those records where the residence was reported are of interest as they show numerous cities and towns throughout New York State as well as other states and even foreign countries. Some specifics are: 1. Most of the records were for the Capital District Area. Areas with the greatest number were Albany-51 records, Troy-888 records, Lansingburgh-29 records, Watervliet-12 records, Waterford-17 records, Schaghticoke-15 records, Sand Lake-40 records, Pittstown-20 records, Greenbush-15 records, Brunswick-41 records, Cohoes-9 records, West Troy-53 records, Berlin-16 records, Grafton-15 records, Hoosick-23 records, Schenectady-7 records, and Petersburgh-12 records. 2. There were a sizable number of records from the neighboring states of Massachusetts, Vermont and Connecticut. Connecticut has 14 records, Massachusetts had 58 records including 11 from Boston and Vermont had 59 records including 32 from Bennington. 3. For the New York City area, there were 5 records for Brooklyn and 43 records for New York City. 4. Residence was also indicated from the following states and Washington, DC: Arkansas, Alabama, Colorado, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Maine, Missouri, Michigan, New Jersey, New Hampshire, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Virginia, and Wisconsin. Of interest is the number of records for the state of Wisconsin which had 13 records. Six of the records were from the Wisconsin Territory which was prior to Wisconsin becoming a state on May 29, 1848. 5. Foreign countries listed as the place of residence were Ireland, Scotland and Canada. E. List members may be interested in two other transcription projects that are currently being worked on by the Troy Irish Genealogy Society. One of the projects is another Troy Newspaper, the Troy Daily Whig, covering the years 1834 through 1878. While the data entry has already been completed on these 44 years of newspapers, the files have to be analyzed and combined before they are posted to the website. The other project being worked on is Book 1 of the interment records for St Mary's Cemetery in Troy, NY. Data entry of these interments, covering the years 1900 to 1910, is almost complete. Regards, Bill McGrath TIGS Project Coordinator Clifton Park, NY

In the 1850 census for Lexington, Henry Cole b.1801 and his wife Philena Peck b. 1806 have living with them Henry's father, Henry b. 1767. Does anyone have any information on the elder Henry? I have several Cole relatives born in the early 1800's that I can't connect.

Frank Doherty's excellent series Settlers of the Beekman Patent may have a few leads on Gilbert. There is a chapter on the Nelson Family, 23 pages long. The is ONE Gilbert listed. He would not be the right Gilbert that is buried in the Kinghill Cemetery, however he could potentially be a father or uncle to that Gilbert. The Gilbert buried in Kinghill was born abt 1783 according to the age at death. The Gilbert in the book is the son of Mephibosheth Nelson (b. ca, 1728) and his wife Miriam. He died before 1778. They had children: Christina Roger Caleb Gilbert Justus Mary Ann Lucretia Roger leased a farm in Rensselaerville, lot #521 in 1795 Caleb leased a farm in Rensselaerville also in 1795 No further info on Gilbert or Justus Sylvia -------------------------------------------------- From: "Patricia Morrow" <windhamtownhistorian@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 11:06 PM To: "Greene Rootsweb" <NYGREENE@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Gilbert NELSON 1783-1871 & family > > Gilbert Nelson and his wife, Sally, are buried in the Kinghill (aka > Losee Family) Cemetery in the town of Greenville. > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nygreen2/kinghill_cemetery.htm > > See biographical sketches of John Pine, Jr. and his son, Platt, here: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nygreen2/beers_history_of_greene_county_cairo.htm > > Patricia Morrow, Windham Town Historian > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2011 22:51:01 -0400 > From: Pat Peck <patpeck2@verizon.net> > Subject: [NYGREENE] Gilbert NELSON 1783-1871 & family > To: nygreene@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4D9E7815.9030001@verizon.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Seek any info on Gilbert NELSON & his family. Gilbert perhaps born in > Dutchess Co, moved to Greene Co. and later to Saratoga Co for a short > time before returning to Greene Co. I believe he married Sarah > DeLAMATER. Their children included: > Susan b. 1810 m. Peter FITCHETT; Hannah b. 1812 m. Egbert DAVIS; James > b. 1815; Benjamin b. 1819; Elizabeth Ann b. 1822 m. Amos PECK; and Mary > C. b. 1824 m. Platt PINE. > Who were Gilbert's parents? > Was his wife Sarah DeLamater? Who were her parents? > Where are Gilbert & his wife buried? > What happened to James and Benjamin NELSON? > > Thanks for any info you might provide on this family and their offspring. > > Pat Peck > > (My husband, Joseph, descends from Elizabeth Ann NELSON who married Amos > PECK. I am happy to share info on this branch) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Gilbert Nelson and his wife, Sally, are buried in the Kinghill (aka Losee Family) Cemetery in the town of Greenville. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nygreen2/kinghill_cemetery.htm See biographical sketches of John Pine, Jr. and his son, Platt, here: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nygreen2/beers_history_of_greene_county_cairo.htm Patricia Morrow, Windham Town Historian --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Message: 4 Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2011 22:51:01 -0400 From: Pat Peck <patpeck2@verizon.net> Subject: [NYGREENE] Gilbert NELSON 1783-1871 & family To: nygreene@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4D9E7815.9030001@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Seek any info on Gilbert NELSON & his family. Gilbert perhaps born in Dutchess Co, moved to Greene Co. and later to Saratoga Co for a short time before returning to Greene Co. I believe he married Sarah DeLAMATER. Their children included: Susan b. 1810 m. Peter FITCHETT; Hannah b. 1812 m. Egbert DAVIS; James b. 1815; Benjamin b. 1819; Elizabeth Ann b. 1822 m. Amos PECK; and Mary C. b. 1824 m. Platt PINE. Who were Gilbert's parents? Was his wife Sarah DeLamater? Who were her parents? Where are Gilbert & his wife buried? What happened to James and Benjamin NELSON? Thanks for any info you might provide on this family and their offspring. Pat Peck (My husband, Joseph, descends from Elizabeth Ann NELSON who married Amos PECK. I am happy to share info on this branch)

Lisa, I have quite a collection of bricks from Greene Co, but I don't have this one. If you find a cache of them, lease let me know, and I will do the same. Sylvia -------------------------------------------------- From: <goneresearching@comcast.net> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 8:22 PM To: <nygreene@rootsweb.com> Subject: [NYGREENE] re Roll Call - RIDER > > > I'm slow to the roll call but maybe there's someone out there... here's a > different query likely for those on the list that live in Greene Co or > nearby. > > I'm related to the RIDER family. One branch was involved in Albany and > Greene Counties. This branch owned the Rider Brickyard in Athens on > Washington St. From newspaper articles I know they had the brickyard as > early as 1876 or 1879 and I think it continued until the 1930s after which > a mushroom grower (or something like that - it is on other computer so I'm > not positive at the moment) took over the brickyard. > > I wondering if anyone knows of where I can find/buy a brick (or two) that > was produced by this Rider Brickyard. I have seen a picture of one so I > know the bricks have RIDER in raised letters pressed into at least one > side of the brick. > > Thanks for any leads. > > Lisa Eschenburg > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm slow to the roll call but maybe there's someone out there... here's a different query likely for those on the list that live in Greene Co or nearby. I'm related to the RIDER family. One branch was involved in Albany and Greene Counties. This branch owned the Rider Brickyard in Athens on Washington St. From newspaper articles I know they had the brickyard as early as 1876 or 1879 and I think it continued until the 1930s after which a mushroom grower (or something like that - it is on other computer so I'm not positive at the moment) took over the brickyard. I wondering if anyone knows of where I can find/buy a brick (or two) that was produced by this Rider Brickyard. I have seen a picture of one so I know the bricks have RIDER in raised letters pressed into at least one side of the brick. Thanks for any leads. Lisa Eschenburg

Seek any info on Gilbert NELSON & his family. Gilbert perhaps born in Dutchess Co, moved to Greene Co. and later to Saratoga Co for a short time before returning to Greene Co. I believe he married Sarah DeLAMATER. Their children included: Susan b. 1810 m. Peter FITCHETT; Hannah b. 1812 m. Egbert DAVIS; James b. 1815; Benjamin b. 1819; Elizabeth Ann b. 1822 m. Amos PECK; and Mary C. b. 1824 m. Platt PINE. Who were Gilbert's parents? Was his wife Sarah DeLamater? Who were her parents? Where are Gilbert & his wife buried? What happened to James and Benjamin NELSON? Thanks for any info you might provide on this family and their offspring. Pat Peck (My husband, Joseph, descends from Elizabeth Ann NELSON who married Amos PECK. I am happy to share info on this branch)

Charles E. had a brother George Washington, but he died in 1936 -------------------------------------------------- From: "Susan Egnor" <stegnor@comcast.net> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 3:10 PM To: <nygreene@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Etta Haines > > The 1870 census for Catskill shows a Charles I (?) Haines with wife > Diadamy. > The wife's name is so unusual, this could be the same person. > > -----Original Message----- > From: nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Dippy1951@aol.com > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 11:54 AM > To: nygreene@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Etta Haines > > I don't know the date of their marriage. They are buried in Maplewood > Cemetery > Maplewood Cemetery > Charles E Hanes 1857-1934 (Back) > Deborah A Layman wife 1861-1941 > Wifford 1882-1903 > > I'm still trying to find a brother of Charles who may have died before > 1880. I can't seem to find Charles Sr in the 1870 census > > > In a message dated 4/7/2011 2:42:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > stegnor@comcast.net writes: > > Something to note is that both Charles E. and Etta list themselves as > married in the 1880 census, although there is no spouse in their > respective > listings. You report Charles E married Deborah Layman--what was the date > of > that marriage? Mazeppa Brewer's marriage to Etta Haines was reported in > the > press as "Married, . . .in P r a t t s v i l l e , J u ly > 8th . by t h e Rev. W i l l i am Greene. .M. T . Brewer and Mrs. Ettie > Haines , both of Hunter." > > Was there a male sibling to Charles E who died before 1883? > > -----Original Message----- > From: nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Dippy1951@aol.com > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 7:43 AM > To: nygreene@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Etta Haines > > I have been checking on the Charles E Haines angle, but still can't come > to > a conclusion. I've done quite a bit of research on him, as his sister > Elisabeth b. 1828 was my GGGrandmother. The wife "Dame" listed in the > 1880 > census was Diadema Webster. I've been able to locate 3 children but > there > may > be more. They were Martha b. 1851, George Washington b. 1854, and > Charles > Edgar b. 1857. Another possible child was Edward b. 1869 but I can't > verify > > that. George married Nellie Layman, and Charles married Deborah Layman > who > was probably her sister. I suspect there could have been another son > that > I > > haven't found yet who was Alice's father. From what I found about 10 > members of this Haines family, Charles Sr's parents, siblings, etc, all > died in a > 6 or 7 year period so quite a few Haines households had grandchildren, > nieces and nephews living with them. > I'll continue trying to connect Alice Jones to Etta, as she sounds like > the > only connection that could tie this all up. > > > In a message dated 4/6/2011 9:08:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > stegnor@comcast.net writes: > > One possible answer is Charles E. Haines. In the 1880 census, he was > living > with his parents,Charles and Dame (spelled variously, but this is the > 1880 > census spelling) in Hunter. Living with them was Alice Haines, age 5, > described as the senior Charles Haines' granddaughter. Nobody else was > in > the household. > > Ettie Haines and Mazeppa Brewer had 2 daughters: Esther Elberta Brewer b > 22 > June 1884 and Ida Brewer, born 3 Dec 1885. Esther married married > Frederick > Egnor. Ida married George Mower. Per the Fulton Postcard site, in > January > 1948, Schenectady Gazette reported death of Alice May Jones, born Haines > Falls, Feb 5, 1876. Survivors included two half-sisters, Mrs. Ida > Mower, > Newburgh, and Mrs. Frederick Egnor, Catskill. I believe this Alice > Haines > is Ettie Haines daughter. While it appears she was also Charles and > Dame > Haines granddaughter, it's not clear that Charles E. Haines, the > younger, > was her father. > > I would appreciate comments. I went looking for an Alice Haines, and > found > one, and only one in the approximate right place and time. Without > more,however, I can't be positive a) this Alice is the woman who became > Alice May Jones (who, with her husband of 7 years, was living in Hunter > in > the 1900 census). > > Thanks, > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Dippy1951@aol.com > Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:09 PM > To: nygreene@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NYGREENE] Etta Haines > > Here's a brain teaser Sue Egnor and I worked on last month. In the 1880 > census, Etta Haines was listed as 20yrs. old, married, and working as a > servant in the home of Catherine Rickerson in Cairo. On July 8, 1883, > "Mrs. > Ettie > Haines" was married to Mazeppa Brewer in Windham. Through some great > detective work, Sue was able to determine that Etta was Esther > Whittaker, > daughter of Francis and Margaret Whittaker of Catskill. We're still > trying > to > find out who the Haines was that Esther was married to. He was probably > born > 1855-1860, married about 1879 or 1880, and died about 1881 or so. Does > any > of this ring a bell to anyone? > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Your right. He's listed as Charles I Haines in 1870. In 1860: Charles 30, inn keeper Diadama 28 Martha 9 Geo 7, male Edgar 3 (Charles Edgar) In a message dated 4/7/2011 3:11:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, stegnor@comcast.net writes: The 1870 census for Catskill shows a Charles I (?) Haines with wife Diadamy. The wife's name is so unusual, this could be the same person. -----Original Message----- From: nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dippy1951@aol.com Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 11:54 AM To: nygreene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Etta Haines I don't know the date of their marriage. They are buried in Maplewood Cemetery Maplewood Cemetery Charles E Hanes 1857-1934 (Back) Deborah A Layman wife 1861-1941 Wifford 1882-1903 I'm still trying to find a brother of Charles who may have died before 1880. I can't seem to find Charles Sr in the 1870 census In a message dated 4/7/2011 2:42:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, stegnor@comcast.net writes: Something to note is that both Charles E. and Etta list themselves as married in the 1880 census, although there is no spouse in their respective listings. You report Charles E married Deborah Layman--what was the date of that marriage? Mazeppa Brewer's marriage to Etta Haines was reported in the press as "Married, . . .in P r a t t s v i l l e , J u ly 8th . by t h e Rev. W i l l i am Greene. .M. T . Brewer and Mrs. Ettie Haines , both of Hunter." Was there a male sibling to Charles E who died before 1883? -----Original Message----- From: nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dippy1951@aol.com Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 7:43 AM To: nygreene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Etta Haines I have been checking on the Charles E Haines angle, but still can't come to a conclusion. I've done quite a bit of research on him, as his sister Elisabeth b. 1828 was my GGGrandmother. The wife "Dame" listed in the 1880 census was Diadema Webster. I've been able to locate 3 children but there may be more. They were Martha b. 1851, George Washington b. 1854, and Charles Edgar b. 1857. Another possible child was Edward b. 1869 but I can't verify that. George married Nellie Layman, and Charles married Deborah Layman who was probably her sister. I suspect there could have been another son that I haven't found yet who was Alice's father. From what I found about 10 members of this Haines family, Charles Sr's parents, siblings, etc, all died in a 6 or 7 year period so quite a few Haines households had grandchildren, nieces and nephews living with them. I'll continue trying to connect Alice Jones to Etta, as she sounds like the only connection that could tie this all up. In a message dated 4/6/2011 9:08:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, stegnor@comcast.net writes: One possible answer is Charles E. Haines. In the 1880 census, he was living with his parents,Charles and Dame (spelled variously, but this is the 1880 census spelling) in Hunter. Living with them was Alice Haines, age 5, described as the senior Charles Haines' granddaughter. Nobody else was in the household. Ettie Haines and Mazeppa Brewer had 2 daughters: Esther Elberta Brewer b 22 June 1884 and Ida Brewer, born 3 Dec 1885. Esther married married Frederick Egnor. Ida married George Mower. Per the Fulton Postcard site, in January 1948, Schenectady Gazette reported death of Alice May Jones, born Haines Falls, Feb 5, 1876. Survivors included two half-sisters, Mrs. Ida Mower, Newburgh, and Mrs. Frederick Egnor, Catskill. I believe this Alice Haines is Ettie Haines daughter. While it appears she was also Charles and Dame Haines granddaughter, it's not clear that Charles E. Haines, the younger, was her father. I would appreciate comments. I went looking for an Alice Haines, and found one, and only one in the approximate right place and time. Without more,however, I can't be positive a) this Alice is the woman who became Alice May Jones (who, with her husband of 7 years, was living in Hunter in the 1900 census). Thanks, -----Original Message----- From: nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dippy1951@aol.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:09 PM To: nygreene@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYGREENE] Etta Haines Here's a brain teaser Sue Egnor and I worked on last month. In the 1880 census, Etta Haines was listed as 20yrs. old, married, and working as a servant in the home of Catherine Rickerson in Cairo. On July 8, 1883, "Mrs. Ettie Haines" was married to Mazeppa Brewer in Windham. Through some great detective work, Sue was able to determine that Etta was Esther Whittaker, daughter of Francis and Margaret Whittaker of Catskill. We're still trying to find out who the Haines was that Esther was married to. He was probably born 1855-1860, married about 1879 or 1880, and died about 1881 or so. 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I don't know the date of their marriage. They are buried in Maplewood Cemetery Maplewood Cemetery Charles E Hanes 1857-1934 (Back) Deborah A Layman wife 1861-1941 Wifford 1882-1903 I'm still trying to find a brother of Charles who may have died before 1880. I can't seem to find Charles Sr in the 1870 census In a message dated 4/7/2011 2:42:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, stegnor@comcast.net writes: Something to note is that both Charles E. and Etta list themselves as married in the 1880 census, although there is no spouse in their respective listings. You report Charles E married Deborah Layman--what was the date of that marriage? Mazeppa Brewer's marriage to Etta Haines was reported in the press as "Married, . . .in P r a t t s v i l l e , J u ly 8th . by t h e Rev. W i l l i am Greene. .M. T . Brewer and Mrs. Ettie Haines , both of Hunter." Was there a male sibling to Charles E who died before 1883? -----Original Message----- From: nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dippy1951@aol.com Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 7:43 AM To: nygreene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Etta Haines I have been checking on the Charles E Haines angle, but still can't come to a conclusion. I've done quite a bit of research on him, as his sister Elisabeth b. 1828 was my GGGrandmother. The wife "Dame" listed in the 1880 census was Diadema Webster. I've been able to locate 3 children but there may be more. They were Martha b. 1851, George Washington b. 1854, and Charles Edgar b. 1857. Another possible child was Edward b. 1869 but I can't verify that. George married Nellie Layman, and Charles married Deborah Layman who was probably her sister. I suspect there could have been another son that I haven't found yet who was Alice's father. From what I found about 10 members of this Haines family, Charles Sr's parents, siblings, etc, all died in a 6 or 7 year period so quite a few Haines households had grandchildren, nieces and nephews living with them. I'll continue trying to connect Alice Jones to Etta, as she sounds like the only connection that could tie this all up. In a message dated 4/6/2011 9:08:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, stegnor@comcast.net writes: One possible answer is Charles E. Haines. In the 1880 census, he was living with his parents,Charles and Dame (spelled variously, but this is the 1880 census spelling) in Hunter. Living with them was Alice Haines, age 5, described as the senior Charles Haines' granddaughter. Nobody else was in the household. Ettie Haines and Mazeppa Brewer had 2 daughters: Esther Elberta Brewer b 22 June 1884 and Ida Brewer, born 3 Dec 1885. Esther married married Frederick Egnor. Ida married George Mower. Per the Fulton Postcard site, in January 1948, Schenectady Gazette reported death of Alice May Jones, born Haines Falls, Feb 5, 1876. Survivors included two half-sisters, Mrs. Ida Mower, Newburgh, and Mrs. Frederick Egnor, Catskill. I believe this Alice Haines is Ettie Haines daughter. While it appears she was also Charles and Dame Haines granddaughter, it's not clear that Charles E. Haines, the younger, was her father. I would appreciate comments. I went looking for an Alice Haines, and found one, and only one in the approximate right place and time. Without more,however, I can't be positive a) this Alice is the woman who became Alice May Jones (who, with her husband of 7 years, was living in Hunter in the 1900 census). Thanks, -----Original Message----- From: nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dippy1951@aol.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:09 PM To: nygreene@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYGREENE] Etta Haines Here's a brain teaser Sue Egnor and I worked on last month. In the 1880 census, Etta Haines was listed as 20yrs. old, married, and working as a servant in the home of Catherine Rickerson in Cairo. On July 8, 1883, "Mrs. Ettie Haines" was married to Mazeppa Brewer in Windham. Through some great detective work, Sue was able to determine that Etta was Esther Whittaker, daughter of Francis and Margaret Whittaker of Catskill. We're still trying to find out who the Haines was that Esther was married to. He was probably born 1855-1860, married about 1879 or 1880, and died about 1881 or so. 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The 1870 census for Catskill shows a Charles I (?) Haines with wife Diadamy. The wife's name is so unusual, this could be the same person. -----Original Message----- From: nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dippy1951@aol.com Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 11:54 AM To: nygreene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Etta Haines I don't know the date of their marriage. They are buried in Maplewood Cemetery Maplewood Cemetery Charles E Hanes 1857-1934 (Back) Deborah A Layman wife 1861-1941 Wifford 1882-1903 I'm still trying to find a brother of Charles who may have died before 1880. I can't seem to find Charles Sr in the 1870 census In a message dated 4/7/2011 2:42:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, stegnor@comcast.net writes: Something to note is that both Charles E. and Etta list themselves as married in the 1880 census, although there is no spouse in their respective listings. You report Charles E married Deborah Layman--what was the date of that marriage? Mazeppa Brewer's marriage to Etta Haines was reported in the press as "Married, . . .in P r a t t s v i l l e , J u ly 8th . by t h e Rev. W i l l i am Greene. .M. T . Brewer and Mrs. Ettie Haines , both of Hunter." Was there a male sibling to Charles E who died before 1883? -----Original Message----- From: nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dippy1951@aol.com Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 7:43 AM To: nygreene@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Etta Haines I have been checking on the Charles E Haines angle, but still can't come to a conclusion. I've done quite a bit of research on him, as his sister Elisabeth b. 1828 was my GGGrandmother. The wife "Dame" listed in the 1880 census was Diadema Webster. I've been able to locate 3 children but there may be more. They were Martha b. 1851, George Washington b. 1854, and Charles Edgar b. 1857. Another possible child was Edward b. 1869 but I can't verify that. George married Nellie Layman, and Charles married Deborah Layman who was probably her sister. I suspect there could have been another son that I haven't found yet who was Alice's father. From what I found about 10 members of this Haines family, Charles Sr's parents, siblings, etc, all died in a 6 or 7 year period so quite a few Haines households had grandchildren, nieces and nephews living with them. I'll continue trying to connect Alice Jones to Etta, as she sounds like the only connection that could tie this all up. In a message dated 4/6/2011 9:08:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, stegnor@comcast.net writes: One possible answer is Charles E. Haines. In the 1880 census, he was living with his parents,Charles and Dame (spelled variously, but this is the 1880 census spelling) in Hunter. Living with them was Alice Haines, age 5, described as the senior Charles Haines' granddaughter. Nobody else was in the household. Ettie Haines and Mazeppa Brewer had 2 daughters: Esther Elberta Brewer b 22 June 1884 and Ida Brewer, born 3 Dec 1885. Esther married married Frederick Egnor. Ida married George Mower. Per the Fulton Postcard site, in January 1948, Schenectady Gazette reported death of Alice May Jones, born Haines Falls, Feb 5, 1876. Survivors included two half-sisters, Mrs. Ida Mower, Newburgh, and Mrs. Frederick Egnor, Catskill. I believe this Alice Haines is Ettie Haines daughter. While it appears she was also Charles and Dame Haines granddaughter, it's not clear that Charles E. Haines, the younger, was her father. I would appreciate comments. I went looking for an Alice Haines, and found one, and only one in the approximate right place and time. Without more,however, I can't be positive a) this Alice is the woman who became Alice May Jones (who, with her husband of 7 years, was living in Hunter in the 1900 census). Thanks, -----Original Message----- From: nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nygreene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dippy1951@aol.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:09 PM To: nygreene@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYGREENE] Etta Haines Here's a brain teaser Sue Egnor and I worked on last month. In the 1880 census, Etta Haines was listed as 20yrs. old, married, and working as a servant in the home of Catherine Rickerson in Cairo. On July 8, 1883, "Mrs. Ettie Haines" was married to Mazeppa Brewer in Windham. Through some great detective work, Sue was able to determine that Etta was Esther Whittaker, daughter of Francis and Margaret Whittaker of Catskill. We're still trying to find out who the Haines was that Esther was married to. He was probably born 1855-1860, married about 1879 or 1880, and died about 1881 or so. Does any of this ring a bell to anyone? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYGREENE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message