Yes, there are surviving records, but they start much later, I believe. The earliest records were lost in a fire at the parsonage. I'd have to check when the news ones start, I think it may be the latter half of the 1800's. Sylvia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Katherine Seiders" <kmseiders@charter.net> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 9:55 PM Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] Andrews, John at St. Luke's Church Catskill 1801-1802 > John Andrews was in Catskill in 1801 and 1802 and was one of the charter > members of St. Luke's Church. The men who established that church did not > seem to be immediate neighbors and I do not find evidence of his having a > connection to those families . Was he related to the Andrews family in > Windham? They seem to be well documented and I find no mention of John > Andrews associated with them. There was a John Andrews in Greene County in > 1810, but I think he was too young to be the man I am seeking or to have > been one of the first vestrymen of a church in 1801. I am looking for a > John Andrews who was born about 1760. Are there any surviving records from > St. Luke's Protestant Episcopal Church of Catskill? > Thank you, > Katherine Seiders > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > 1850 federal census for Prattsville and Windham fully transcribed! Come > check us out! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

John Andrews was in Catskill in 1801 and 1802 and was one of the charter members of St. Luke's Church. The men who established that church did not seem to be immediate neighbors and I do not find evidence of his having a connection to those families . Was he related to the Andrews family in Windham? They seem to be well documented and I find no mention of John Andrews associated with them. There was a John Andrews in Greene County in 1810, but I think he was too young to be the man I am seeking or to have been one of the first vestrymen of a church in 1801. I am looking for a John Andrews who was born about 1760. Are there any surviving records from St. Luke's Protestant Episcopal Church of Catskill? Thank you, Katherine Seiders

Hi Laura Now, I'm thinking that we may have corresponded before?? Heth's son Carleton married my grandpa's cousins Elizabeth Simmons. Have you found any more information about them? Cindy In a message dated 3/16/2005 9:38:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, llseward@rangeweb.net writes: Cindy, Yes, the Kinch Brothers in Walton were all part of my family, coming down through William and Ruth Peck Kinch, Nathan Kinch and different wives for different children, Heth and Edith Catherine Finkle, Nathan J. and Martha Rush, Irving and Susie Kinch. Heth was my gg-grandfather. Can I help you with any of this? Let me know. Laura ----- Original Message ----- From: <SHINDEI2@aol.com> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Cross/Kinch > Hi Laura > I see that you have Kinch. Any relation to Kinch Bros. in Walton, Del. Co. > NY? > Cindy > > In a message dated 3/15/2005 6:40:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, > llseward@rangeweb.net writes: > > Hi Annette, > > Don't believe Nathaniel was in our family line, but nothing is impossible in genealogy. > > Believe our Joshua Cross, who married Mary Knapp, was the youngest son of Joseph and Sarah Saunders Cross out of Westerly, RI. No proof of this, > however. > > My Cross' were all over Greene County, my branch going to Knox Co., NE, > and my grandfather, on to Montana. > > Carole Truesdale was one of the many Cross' in NY that are part of my > family. > > Joshua and Mary had George, Joseph, Benjamin, John, Joshua, Stephen, Ruth (Nehemiah Foster) and Sarah who married Jacoby. > > A lot of George's family is still in and around Greene Co. > > Collateral families, Keator, Faulkner, Kinch, Peck, Knapp, Shaver, > St.John, Pettit, Ferris, Finkle, Ingram/Ingraham, VanDorn, Richards just to name a few. > > Would be glad to share any info I have. > > Laura > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Annette Campbell" <anncamp@linkny.com> > To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 7:10 AM > Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] Cross >> >> I have a Nathaniel Cross who married Abigail Walbridge. Nathaniel > was born in 1732. They had many children, one of whom was Asa Cross who married Mary "Polly" Townsend. Nathaniel, Jr. married Hannah Rundle. Edyth married a Rundle and Abigial married a Sherwood. >> Besides this family I have about a gazillion other Crosses that > have "Crossed the path" of my family both long ago and more recently. Some > of these I would like to continue on down and back in time a bit. Maybe we could converse on some of them. Annette >>

Hi, The only Melvin Cross I knew was my father, but we are missing a number of families that scattered all over NY. My Dad was born in NE and moved to Montana in 1913, and died here in MT in 1971, sorry, Laura ----- Original Message ----- From: <ANGORPRE@aol.com> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 11:16 AM Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] Cross > Dontt suppose you are missing a Melvin Cross who m. Mabel Thorn, , probably > from Broome Co. From this union there are many more of the Cross line. > > Gordon > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Greene County - Abstracts of Wills 1800-1900 - going on-line now! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

Hi Cindy, Yes, we have corresponded before and I don't have any more information on them. Tried letters to no avail. No answers. Sorry. Laura ----- Original Message ----- From: <SHINDEI2@aol.com> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 6:43 PM Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Cross/Kinch > Hi Laura > Now, I'm thinking that we may have corresponded before?? > Heth's son Carleton married my grandpa's cousins Elizabeth Simmons. > Have you found any more information about them? > Cindy > > > In a message dated 3/16/2005 9:38:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, > llseward@rangeweb.net writes: > > Cindy, > > Yes, the Kinch Brothers in Walton were all part of my family, coming down > through William and Ruth Peck Kinch, Nathan Kinch and different wives for > different children, Heth and Edith Catherine Finkle, Nathan J. and Martha > Rush, Irving and Susie Kinch. Heth was my gg-grandfather. > > Can I help you with any of this? > Let me know. > Laura > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <SHINDEI2@aol.com> > To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 10:37 PM > Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Cross/Kinch > >> Hi Laura >> I see that you have Kinch. Any relation to Kinch Bros. in Walton, Del. > Co. >> NY? >> Cindy >> >> In a message dated 3/15/2005 6:40:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, >> llseward@rangeweb.net writes: >> >> Hi Annette, >> >> Don't believe Nathaniel was in our family line, but nothing is > impossible in genealogy. >> >> Believe our Joshua Cross, who married Mary Knapp, was the youngest son > of Joseph and Sarah Saunders Cross out of Westerly, RI. No proof of this, >> however. >> >> My Cross' were all over Greene County, my branch going to Knox Co., NE, >> and my grandfather, on to Montana. >> >> Carole Truesdale was one of the many Cross' in NY that are part of my >> family. >> >> Joshua and Mary had George, Joseph, Benjamin, John, Joshua, Stephen, > Ruth (Nehemiah Foster) and Sarah who married Jacoby. >> >> A lot of George's family is still in and around Greene Co. >> >> Collateral families, Keator, Faulkner, Kinch, Peck, Knapp, Shaver, >> St.John, Pettit, Ferris, Finkle, Ingram/Ingraham, VanDorn, Richards > just to name a few. >> >> Would be glad to share any info I have. >> >> Laura >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Annette Campbell" <anncamp@linkny.com> >> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 7:10 AM >> Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] Cross >>> >>> I have a Nathaniel Cross who married Abigail Walbridge. > Nathaniel >> was born in 1732. They had many children, one of whom was Asa Cross > who married Mary "Polly" Townsend. Nathaniel, Jr. married Hannah Rundle. > Edyth married a Rundle and Abigial married a Sherwood. >>> Besides this family I have about a gazillion other Crosses that >> have "Crossed the path" of my family both long ago and more recently. > Some >> of these I would like to continue on down and back in time a bit. > Maybe we could converse on some of them. Annette >>> > > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Moving in and Moving on - Greene County's Migrations Database - add your > families now and make the connection! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

Dontt suppose you are missing a Melvin Cross who m. Mabel Thorn, , probably from Broome Co. From this union there are many more of the Cross line. Gordon

Have 4 Crosses in my Waldron tree: Eliza J., Emma, James M., and Shubel. Ron W. - In God We Trust - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Eden" <jeden@bellatlantic.net> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Cross > The only other CROSS info I have comes from a Maben family book and I > will include it here. I did not gather the info so this is all I have > and I can't confirm it. > > Ethel Naomi Maben b. 21 October 1888 in Lexington, Greene, NY died 16 > Feb 1963 in Catskill, Greene, NY at age of 74. She married Herbert > James CROSS 12 Oct 1909 in Gilboa, Delaware, NY. He was born 1 Aug 1890 > in Lexington, Greene, NY. He was the son of Edward (Ed) Cross and > Elizabeth M. Vermilyea (Lizzy). Herbert died 7 March 1974 in Stamford, > Delaware, NY at age 83. > Their children were: > Minnie Elizabeth Cross b. 24 April 1911, d. 6 Oct 1998 > Lulu Mariam Cross b. 5 Aug 1912 d. 28 Nov 1992 > Charles Edward Cross b. 15 March 1914 d. 25 March 1997 > Ethel Emma Cross b. 24 April 1917 d. 26 Dec 1996 > Vera Catharine Cross b. 28 Aug 1919 d. 31 Dec 1980 > Herbert Bruce Cross b. 29 Oct 1921 d. 27 June 1997 > Reginald Orville Cross b. 16 Nov 1927 > > > Maida Catherine Maben born 16 Jan 1891 in Lexington, Greene NY. Maida > died 2 August 1971 in Lexington, Greene, NY at age of 80. She married > Merritte Emmett CROSS 14 April 1915 in Hensonville. He was born 29 Feb > 1896 in Lexington, Greene, NY. He was the son of Edward (Ed) Cross and > Elizabeth M. Vermilyea (Lizzy). Merritte died in 1965 in Lexington, > Greene, NY at the age of 68. > They had one child, Dorthea Cross born 22 October 1921 in Lexington, > Greene, NY and she died in infancy 1921 in Lexington, Greene, NY > > **we had Merritt spelled differently than in the Maben book > the Maben book in titled: John Maben > Sally Pierce > with > Allied Families > by Alice and Ken link, 1999 > > julie eden > > On Tuesday, March 15, 2005, at 09:10 AM, Annette Campbell wrote: > >> >> >> I have a Nathaniel Cross who married Abigail Walbridge. >> Nathaniel was born in 1732. They had many children, one of whom was >> Asa Cross who married Mary "Polly" Townsend. Nathaniel, Jr. married >> Hannah Rundle. Edyth married a Rundle and Abigial married a Sherwood. >> Besides this family I have about a gazillion other Crosses >> that have "Crossed the path" of my family both long ago and more >> recently. Some of these I would like to continue on down and back in >> time a bit. Maybe we could converse on some of them. Annette >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== >> Over 1400 pages of Greene County information, fully indexed, to help >> you find your lost link! >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >> Learn more: >> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/ >> tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >> > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > 1850 federal census for Prattsville and Windham fully transcribed! Come > check us out! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Julie, Have met a lot of the Potter's through 2 trips to NY for Cross family reunion. They are all cousins however many times removed. Need to check yours with info I have on them. Thanks, Laura ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Eden" <jeden@bellatlantic.net> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 7:53 AM Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Cross > there is actually more info on the next generation of Cross/Mabens in > the Maben book > I will list it in general and if anyone has specific questions as to > dates of birth and death etc. , pls let me know > > Minnie Elizabeth Cross married Charles William POTTER the son of > William Lyndon Potter and Helen Merinda Wainwright. > Their children were POTTERs: > Lyndon herbert > William Charles > Anita Elizabeth > Susan Arlene > Ellis Rodney > Stanton Kay > Charles William > Arnold Ralph > > Lulu Mariam CROSS married James Carr POTTER the son of William Lyndon > Potter and Helen Merinda Wainwright > Their children, named POTTER were: > Adelbert James > David Ira > > Charles Edward CROSS married Bridget Donahue and they had a son, James > CROSS > note says Charles was born in Northrup House > > Ethel Emma (Jane) CROSS married Clyde Warren Grinnell > their children were (Grinnell): > Clyde W > John E > Gerald E > Curtiss P > he was a teacher of computer science > > Vera Catharine CROSS married Alexander William Schemm > their children were (Schemm): > Aelene M > Catharine > Paul Bruce > > Herbert Bruce CROSS married Violet Eva Hapeman > their children (CROSS) were: > Robert Bruce > Carole Jeanne > Thomas Richard > > > Reginald Orville CROSS married Ruth Vivian Jenkins > their children were (CROSS): > Jeffrey Schyler > Regina Mae > Timothy Warren > > julie eden > > On Wednesday, March 16, 2005, at 09:32 AM, Julie Eden wrote: > >> The only other CROSS info I have comes from a Maben family book and I >> will include it here. I did not gather the info so this is all I have >> and I can't confirm it. >> >> Ethel Naomi Maben b. 21 October 1888 in Lexington, Greene, NY died 16 >> Feb 1963 in Catskill, Greene, NY at age of 74. She married Herbert >> James CROSS 12 Oct 1909 in Gilboa, Delaware, NY. He was born 1 Aug >> 1890 in Lexington, Greene, NY. He was the son of Edward (Ed) Cross and >> Elizabeth M. Vermilyea (Lizzy). Herbert died 7 March 1974 in Stamford, >> Delaware, NY at age 83. >> Their children were: >> Minnie Elizabeth Cross b. 24 April 1911, d. 6 Oct 1998 >> Lulu Mariam Cross b. 5 Aug 1912 d. 28 Nov 1992 >> Charles Edward Cross b. 15 March 1914 d. 25 March 1997 >> Ethel Emma Cross b. 24 April 1917 d. 26 Dec 1996 >> Vera Catharine Cross b. 28 Aug 1919 d. 31 Dec 1980 >> Herbert Bruce Cross b. 29 Oct 1921 d. 27 June 1997 >> Reginald Orville Cross b. 16 Nov 1927 >> >> >> Maida Catherine Maben born 16 Jan 1891 in Lexington, Greene NY. Maida >> died 2 August 1971 in Lexington, Greene, NY at age of 80. She married >> Merritte Emmett CROSS 14 April 1915 in Hensonville. He was born 29 Feb >> 1896 in Lexington, Greene, NY. He was the son of Edward (Ed) Cross and >> Elizabeth M. Vermilyea (Lizzy). Merritte died in 1965 in Lexington, >> Greene, NY at the age of 68. >> They had one child, Dorthea Cross born 22 October 1921 in Lexington, >> Greene, NY and she died in infancy 1921 in Lexington, Greene, NY >> >> **we had Merritt spelled differently than in the Maben book >> the Maben book in titled: John Maben >> Sally Pierce >> with >> Allied Families >> by Alice and Ken link, 1999 >> >> julie eden >> >> On Tuesday, March 15, 2005, at 09:10 AM, Annette Campbell wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> I have a Nathaniel Cross who married Abigail Walbridge. >>> Nathaniel was born in 1732. They had many children, one of whom was >>> Asa Cross who married Mary "Polly" Townsend. Nathaniel, Jr. married >>> Hannah Rundle. Edyth married a Rundle and Abigial married a Sherwood. >>> Besides this family I have about a gazillion other Crosses >>> that have "Crossed the path" of my family both long ago and more >>> recently. Some of these I would like to continue on down and back in >>> time a bit. Maybe we could converse on some of them. Annette >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ---- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== >>> Over 1400 pages of Greene County information, fully indexed, to help >>> you find your lost link! >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 >>> >>> ============================== >>> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >>> ancestors at the same time. 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Cindy, Yes, the Kinch Brothers in Walton were all part of my family, coming down through William and Ruth Peck Kinch, Nathan Kinch and different wives for different children, Heth and Edith Catherine Finkle, Nathan J. and Martha Rush, Irving and Susie Kinch. Heth was my gg-grandfather. Can I help you with any of this? Let me know. Laura ----- Original Message ----- From: <SHINDEI2@aol.com> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Cross/Kinch > > Hi Laura > I see that you have Kinch. Any relation to Kinch Bros. in Walton, Del. Co. > NY? > Cindy > > In a message dated 3/15/2005 6:40:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, > llseward@rangeweb.net writes: > > Hi Annette, > > Don't believe Nathaniel was in our family line, but nothing is impossible > in genealogy. > > Believe our Joshua Cross, who married Mary Knapp, was the youngest son of > Joseph and Sarah Saunders Cross out of Westerly, RI. No proof of this, > however. > > My Cross' were all over Greene County, my branch going to Knox Co., NE, > and my grandfather, on to Montana. > > Carole Truesdale was one of the many Cross' in NY that are part of my > family. > > Joshua and Mary had George, Joseph, Benjamin, John, Joshua, Stephen, Ruth > (Nehemiah Foster) and Sarah who married Jacoby. > > A lot of George's family is still in and around Greene Co. > > Collateral families, Keator, Faulkner, Kinch, Peck, Knapp, Shaver, > St.John, Pettit, Ferris, Finkle, Ingram/Ingraham, VanDorn, Richards just to > name a few. > > Would be glad to share any info I have. > > Laura > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Annette Campbell" <anncamp@linkny.com> > To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 7:10 AM > Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] Cross > > >> >> >> I have a Nathaniel Cross who married Abigail Walbridge. Nathaniel > was born in 1732. They had many children, one of whom was Asa Cross who > married Mary "Polly" Townsend. Nathaniel, Jr. married Hannah Rundle. Edyth > married a Rundle and Abigial married a Sherwood. >> Besides this family I have about a gazillion other Crosses that > have "Crossed the path" of my family both long ago and more recently. Some > of these I would like to continue on down and back in time a bit. Maybe we > could converse on some of them. Annette >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== >> Over 1400 pages of Greene County information, fully indexed, to help you > find your lost link! >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn > more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targ > etid=5429 >> > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Your on-line source for Greene County history and genealogy. Stop on by and > find your lost link! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=54 > 29 > > > > > > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > The Diary of John Barr, Ensign in the Revolutionary War. Come read about our revolutionary past from the eyes of one who lived it! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

there is actually more info on the next generation of Cross/Mabens in the Maben book I will list it in general and if anyone has specific questions as to dates of birth and death etc. , pls let me know Minnie Elizabeth Cross married Charles William POTTER the son of William Lyndon Potter and Helen Merinda Wainwright. Their children were POTTERs: Lyndon herbert William Charles Anita Elizabeth Susan Arlene Ellis Rodney Stanton Kay Charles William Arnold Ralph Lulu Mariam CROSS married James Carr POTTER the son of William Lyndon Potter and Helen Merinda Wainwright Their children, named POTTER were: Adelbert James David Ira Charles Edward CROSS married Bridget Donahue and they had a son, James CROSS note says Charles was born in Northrup House Ethel Emma (Jane) CROSS married Clyde Warren Grinnell their children were (Grinnell): Clyde W John E Gerald E Curtiss P he was a teacher of computer science Vera Catharine CROSS married Alexander William Schemm their children were (Schemm): Aelene M Catharine Paul Bruce Herbert Bruce CROSS married Violet Eva Hapeman their children (CROSS) were: Robert Bruce Carole Jeanne Thomas Richard Reginald Orville CROSS married Ruth Vivian Jenkins their children were (CROSS): Jeffrey Schyler Regina Mae Timothy Warren julie eden On Wednesday, March 16, 2005, at 09:32 AM, Julie Eden wrote: > The only other CROSS info I have comes from a Maben family book and I > will include it here. I did not gather the info so this is all I have > and I can't confirm it. > > Ethel Naomi Maben b. 21 October 1888 in Lexington, Greene, NY died 16 > Feb 1963 in Catskill, Greene, NY at age of 74. She married Herbert > James CROSS 12 Oct 1909 in Gilboa, Delaware, NY. He was born 1 Aug > 1890 in Lexington, Greene, NY. He was the son of Edward (Ed) Cross and > Elizabeth M. Vermilyea (Lizzy). Herbert died 7 March 1974 in Stamford, > Delaware, NY at age 83. > Their children were: > Minnie Elizabeth Cross b. 24 April 1911, d. 6 Oct 1998 > Lulu Mariam Cross b. 5 Aug 1912 d. 28 Nov 1992 > Charles Edward Cross b. 15 March 1914 d. 25 March 1997 > Ethel Emma Cross b. 24 April 1917 d. 26 Dec 1996 > Vera Catharine Cross b. 28 Aug 1919 d. 31 Dec 1980 > Herbert Bruce Cross b. 29 Oct 1921 d. 27 June 1997 > Reginald Orville Cross b. 16 Nov 1927 > > > Maida Catherine Maben born 16 Jan 1891 in Lexington, Greene NY. Maida > died 2 August 1971 in Lexington, Greene, NY at age of 80. She married > Merritte Emmett CROSS 14 April 1915 in Hensonville. He was born 29 Feb > 1896 in Lexington, Greene, NY. He was the son of Edward (Ed) Cross and > Elizabeth M. Vermilyea (Lizzy). Merritte died in 1965 in Lexington, > Greene, NY at the age of 68. > They had one child, Dorthea Cross born 22 October 1921 in Lexington, > Greene, NY and she died in infancy 1921 in Lexington, Greene, NY > > **we had Merritt spelled differently than in the Maben book > the Maben book in titled: John Maben > Sally Pierce > with > Allied Families > by Alice and Ken link, 1999 > > julie eden > > On Tuesday, March 15, 2005, at 09:10 AM, Annette Campbell wrote: > >> >> >> I have a Nathaniel Cross who married Abigail Walbridge. >> Nathaniel was born in 1732. They had many children, one of whom was >> Asa Cross who married Mary "Polly" Townsend. Nathaniel, Jr. married >> Hannah Rundle. Edyth married a Rundle and Abigial married a Sherwood. >> Besides this family I have about a gazillion other Crosses >> that have "Crossed the path" of my family both long ago and more >> recently. Some of these I would like to continue on down and back in >> time a bit. Maybe we could converse on some of them. Annette >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== >> Over 1400 pages of Greene County information, fully indexed, to help >> you find your lost link! >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >> Learn more: >> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/ >> tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >> > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > 1850 federal census for Prattsville and Windham fully transcribed! Come > check us out! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

The only other CROSS info I have comes from a Maben family book and I will include it here. I did not gather the info so this is all I have and I can't confirm it. Ethel Naomi Maben b. 21 October 1888 in Lexington, Greene, NY died 16 Feb 1963 in Catskill, Greene, NY at age of 74. She married Herbert James CROSS 12 Oct 1909 in Gilboa, Delaware, NY. He was born 1 Aug 1890 in Lexington, Greene, NY. He was the son of Edward (Ed) Cross and Elizabeth M. Vermilyea (Lizzy). Herbert died 7 March 1974 in Stamford, Delaware, NY at age 83. Their children were: Minnie Elizabeth Cross b. 24 April 1911, d. 6 Oct 1998 Lulu Mariam Cross b. 5 Aug 1912 d. 28 Nov 1992 Charles Edward Cross b. 15 March 1914 d. 25 March 1997 Ethel Emma Cross b. 24 April 1917 d. 26 Dec 1996 Vera Catharine Cross b. 28 Aug 1919 d. 31 Dec 1980 Herbert Bruce Cross b. 29 Oct 1921 d. 27 June 1997 Reginald Orville Cross b. 16 Nov 1927 Maida Catherine Maben born 16 Jan 1891 in Lexington, Greene NY. Maida died 2 August 1971 in Lexington, Greene, NY at age of 80. She married Merritte Emmett CROSS 14 April 1915 in Hensonville. He was born 29 Feb 1896 in Lexington, Greene, NY. He was the son of Edward (Ed) Cross and Elizabeth M. Vermilyea (Lizzy). Merritte died in 1965 in Lexington, Greene, NY at the age of 68. They had one child, Dorthea Cross born 22 October 1921 in Lexington, Greene, NY and she died in infancy 1921 in Lexington, Greene, NY **we had Merritt spelled differently than in the Maben book the Maben book in titled: John Maben Sally Pierce with Allied Families by Alice and Ken link, 1999 julie eden On Tuesday, March 15, 2005, at 09:10 AM, Annette Campbell wrote: > > > I have a Nathaniel Cross who married Abigail Walbridge. > Nathaniel was born in 1732. They had many children, one of whom was > Asa Cross who married Mary "Polly" Townsend. Nathaniel, Jr. married > Hannah Rundle. Edyth married a Rundle and Abigial married a Sherwood. > Besides this family I have about a gazillion other Crosses > that have "Crossed the path" of my family both long ago and more > recently. Some of these I would like to continue on down and back in > time a bit. Maybe we could converse on some of them. Annette > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > > > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Over 1400 pages of Greene County information, fully indexed, to help > you find your lost link! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. > Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/ > tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

Thanks for checking, Sylvia. Guess I have another place to add to my list of places to see. Seems to be getting longer, not shorter. In a message dated 3/15/2005 4:01:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, NYGREENE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: I caught that too Karol, and Juantia just got back to me following my query to her last night. The date should be 1816. The site will be amended. Actually was there at the site of the Battle of Waterloo - an amazing location. You can climb this enormous pyramid looking hill and get a sweeping view of the entire plain where the battle was fought. Sylvia

Hi Laura I see that you have Kinch. Any relation to Kinch Bros. in Walton, Del. Co. NY? Cindy In a message dated 3/15/2005 6:40:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, llseward@rangeweb.net writes: Hi Annette, Don't believe Nathaniel was in our family line, but nothing is impossible in genealogy. Believe our Joshua Cross, who married Mary Knapp, was the youngest son of Joseph and Sarah Saunders Cross out of Westerly, RI. No proof of this, however. My Cross' were all over Greene County, my branch going to Knox Co., NE, and my grandfather, on to Montana. Carole Truesdale was one of the many Cross' in NY that are part of my family. Joshua and Mary had George, Joseph, Benjamin, John, Joshua, Stephen, Ruth (Nehemiah Foster) and Sarah who married Jacoby. A lot of George's family is still in and around Greene Co. Collateral families, Keator, Faulkner, Kinch, Peck, Knapp, Shaver, St.John, Pettit, Ferris, Finkle, Ingram/Ingraham, VanDorn, Richards just to name a few. Would be glad to share any info I have. Laura ----- Original Message ----- From: "Annette Campbell" <anncamp@linkny.com> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 7:10 AM Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] Cross > > > I have a Nathaniel Cross who married Abigail Walbridge. Nathaniel was born in 1732. They had many children, one of whom was Asa Cross who married Mary "Polly" Townsend. Nathaniel, Jr. married Hannah Rundle. Edyth married a Rundle and Abigial married a Sherwood. > Besides this family I have about a gazillion other Crosses that have "Crossed the path" of my family both long ago and more recently. Some of these I would like to continue on down and back in time a bit. Maybe we could converse on some of them. Annette > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Over 1400 pages of Greene County information, fully indexed, to help you find your lost link! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targ etid=5429 > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== Your on-line source for Greene County history and genealogy. Stop on by and find your lost link! http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=54 29

Hi, Do you know who Martin Cross' parents were? There are several Cross' in that area that I can't find a place for. Glad of any help I can get. Thank you for answering my query. Laura ----- Original Message ----- From: <Woelfer1@aol.com> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 8:36 PM Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] Cross >I have little information, on a Martin Cross, he lived in Bethlehem, N.Y. a > little ways away from Greene County... > I am gussing ...he may have been born around 1929 or there about... > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Moving in and Moving on - Greene County's Migrations Database - add your > families now and make the connection! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Hi Annette, Don't believe Nathaniel was in our family line, but nothing is impossible in genealogy. Believe our Joshua Cross, who married Mary Knapp, was the youngest son of Joseph and Sarah Saunders Cross out of Westerly, RI. No proof of this, however. My Cross' were all over Greene County, my branch going to Knox Co., NE, and my grandfather, on to Montana. Carole Truesdale was one of the many Cross' in NY that are part of my family. Joshua and Mary had George, Joseph, Benjamin, John, Joshua, Stephen, Ruth (Nehemiah Foster) and Sarah who married Jacoby. A lot of George's family is still in and around Greene Co. Collateral families, Keator, Faulkner, Kinch, Peck, Knapp, Shaver, St.John, Pettit, Ferris, Finkle, Ingram/Ingraham, VanDorn, Richards just to name a few. Would be glad to share any info I have. Laura ----- Original Message ----- From: "Annette Campbell" <anncamp@linkny.com> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 7:10 AM Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] Cross > > > I have a Nathaniel Cross who married Abigail Walbridge. Nathaniel was born in 1732. They had many children, one of whom was Asa Cross who married Mary "Polly" Townsend. Nathaniel, Jr. married Hannah Rundle. Edyth married a Rundle and Abigial married a Sherwood. > Besides this family I have about a gazillion other Crosses that have "Crossed the path" of my family both long ago and more recently. Some of these I would like to continue on down and back in time a bit. Maybe we could converse on some of them. Annette > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Over 1400 pages of Greene County information, fully indexed, to help you find your lost link! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

Without a huge discourse, I'd like to mention a bit about Gaelic naming: Ireland, Scotland, and Wales used and sometimes still uses, as in the case of Wales, patryonic naming. In Ireland and Scotland Mac/Mc meant son of, O, meant grandson of. (And don't forget the Norse...) An example: before the English came, changed things, and handed out surnames, law required that the wealth of a deceased person be distributed to the survivors of c5 generations. Here goes with an example: (assuming my first name is Donald) English Gaelic Relation Donald Domhnall me Donohue Donoghue father Neill Neill grandfather Shaunnessy Seanchai gt grandfather Donavan Dun na Bhan gt gt grand And here would be my full name, back to gt gt grandpa: Domhnall MacDonoghue O'Neill Donoghue MacNeill O'Seanchai' Neill MacSeanchai O'Dun na Bhan Seanchai MacDun na Bhan O' Dun na Bhan Mac...O'... ie: Dun na Bhan became Donovan. The Gaelic does not haave the letters k, v, w, x, y, or z, but has similar sounds. 'bh' in the Gaelic is pronounced 'v'. 't' is often pronounced 'th'. 'th is sometimes pronounced 't'. 'g' as in Donoghue is silent. Spellings, especially in this country, became phonetic. Scots and Irish Gaelic can be different, loch vs lough, pronounced lock, meaning lake. Scotland also has Broad Scots and Doric. Surnames as known today could derive from region or clan, without originally a blood relationship. They could also have derived from a physical feature: Laing/lang meaning someone originally was tall for the times, laing meaning long.Cruikshank, from crooked. Auld Lang Syne-Old times, times of long ago, etc. Scotland uses first name naming conventions: 1st son after father's father 2nd son after mother's father 3rd son after father Etc; 1st dau after mother's mother 2nd dau after father's mother 3rd dau after mother Etc. Middle names were often family surnames. Hence there could be 10 George Campbell Ross' in town. and in a small town, so, which one? Scotland uses 'tee' names in the Northeast, a form of nickname that sticks for life in order to differentiate which one. Wales is a whole other story. Alphabet and pronunciations different than Ireland & Scotland. And they love their consonants! There is a name with 99 letters....... Children did, and I think, still do, memorize at least 7 generations back. 'Ap' is an equilavent of O or Mac: Ap Howell to Powell. My name, Peigi, in English is Peggy, a form of Margaret ( I won't put all the Gaelic spellings of Margaret here). The Gaelic pronunciation is softer on the 'ei' and a soft 'k' sound on the g, 'e' sound on the i. My husband's surname, Mulligan, was O'Mulligan, from bald-headed monks.(remember, long ago, priests etc could marry). I think that's enough to get the idea. The true origin of O'Bryon may remain a mystery. The spellings have evolved over time, phonetics, popular usage, geography. The above from my own knowledge, and Don Donohue's Naming Conventions. Peigi ----- Original Message ----- From: <VTvending@aol.com> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Lord > Hello Sylvia: > I agree that O'Brien sounds very Irish. That's the story that had been > handed down though. > Interestingly, Sylvia Magin replied that one of her aunts was an O'Brien and > that the old pronunciation was actually o-BREE-on. This is exactly the > pronunciation that I had been told about. I was also told that the spelling was > something like Obryyn. > I'm not sure whether the unusual pronunciation led to speculation that the > root was actually a Dutch name or if there is basis for that claim. > I do have 1790 census data for Thomas O'Brien in Resselaerville, Albany > County and an account of him arriving in East Jewett about 1806 (Early Settlers > of East Jewett by Horatio N. Beach, reprinted from Catskill Examiner, 17 August > 1871). Both of those references are to Thomas O'Brien. > Does Obryyn or Obyun make any more sense to you? > Thanks, > Tom McHugh > > PS: I agree with all of the 'fan-mail' that you've been getting. This is a > fantastic group here and you seem to be the driving force. Thanks again. > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Greene County - Abstracts of Wills 1800-1900 - going on-line now! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

I have a Nathaniel Cross who married Abigail Walbridge. Nathaniel was born in 1732. They had many children, one of whom was Asa Cross who married Mary "Polly" Townsend. Nathaniel, Jr. married Hannah Rundle. Edyth married a Rundle and Abigial married a Sherwood. Besides this family I have about a gazillion other Crosses that have "Crossed the path" of my family both long ago and more recently. Some of these I would like to continue on down and back in time a bit. Maybe we could converse on some of them. Annette --------------------------------------------------------------------------

I caught that too Karol, and Juantia just got back to me following my query to her last night. The date should be 1816. The site will be amended. Actually was there at the site of the Battle of Waterloo - an amazing location. You can climb this enormous pyramid looking hill and get a sweeping view of the entire plain where the battle was fought. Sylvia ----- Original Message ----- From: <KarolHugh@aol.com> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 7:05 AM Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] Anthony Thomas? > Sylvia, > > I noticed the new obit for Anthony Thomas this morning. Does it really say > he came to America in 1810? He would have missed Waterloo, the crowning of > Louis XVIII, and most of the Peninsular Wars. > > His name caught my attention b/c he ties in with the Plank family. > > Karol > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Greene County Tax Assessment going on line now! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

Pegi a most interesting tidbit. I am not gaelic nor do I have irish ancestry till I go way back. Thanks for the lesson though I will be saving this one! peigi mulligan <pmulligan@hvc.rr.com> wrote:Without a huge discourse, I'd like to mention a bit about Gaelic naming: Ireland, Scotland, and Wales used and sometimes still uses, as in the case of Wales, patryonic naming. In Ireland and Scotland Mac/Mc meant son of, O, meant grandson of. (And don't forget the Norse...) An example: before the English came, changed things, and handed out surnames, law required that the wealth of a deceased person be distributed to the survivors of c5 generations. Here goes with an example: (assuming my first name is Donald) English Gaelic Relation Donald Domhnall me Donohue Donoghue father Neill Neill grandfather Shaunnessy Seanchai gt grandfather Donavan Dun na Bhan gt gt grand And here would be my full name, back to gt gt grandpa: Domhnall MacDonoghue O'Neill Donoghue MacNeill O'Seanchai' Neill MacSeanchai O'Dun na Bhan Seanchai MacDun na Bhan O' Dun na Bhan Mac...O'... ie: Dun na Bhan became Donovan. The Gaelic does not haave the letters k, v, w, x, y, or z, but has similar sounds. 'bh' in the Gaelic is pronounced 'v'. 't' is often pronounced 'th'. 'th is sometimes pronounced 't'. 'g' as in Donoghue is silent. Spellings, especially in this country, became phonetic. Scots and Irish Gaelic can be different, loch vs lough, pronounced lock, meaning lake. Scotland also has Broad Scots and Doric. Surnames as known today could derive from region or clan, without originally a blood relationship. They could also have derived from a physical feature: Laing/lang meaning someone originally was tall for the times, laing meaning long.Cruikshank, from crooked. Auld Lang Syne-Old times, times of long ago, etc. Scotland uses first name naming conventions: 1st son after father's father 2nd son after mother's father 3rd son after father Etc; 1st dau after mother's mother 2nd dau after father's mother 3rd dau after mother Etc. Middle names were often family surnames. Hence there could be 10 George Campbell Ross' in town. and in a small town, so, which one? Scotland uses 'tee' names in the Northeast, a form of nickname that sticks for life in order to differentiate which one. Wales is a whole other story. Alphabet and pronunciations different than Ireland & Scotland. And they love their consonants! There is a name with 99 letters....... Children did, and I think, still do, memorize at least 7 generations back. 'Ap' is an equilavent of O or Mac: Ap Howell to Powell. My name, Peigi, in English is Peggy, a form of Margaret ( I won't put all the Gaelic spellings of Margaret here). The Gaelic pronunciation is softer on the 'ei' and a soft 'k' sound on the g, 'e' sound on the i. My husband's surname, Mulligan, was O'Mulligan, from bald-headed monks.(remember, long ago, priests etc could marry). I think that's enough to get the idea. The true origin of O'Bryon may remain a mystery. The spellings have evolved over time, phonetics, popular usage, geography. The above from my own knowledge, and Don Donohue's Naming Conventions. Peigi ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Lord > Hello Sylvia: > I agree that O'Brien sounds very Irish. That's the story that had been > handed down though. > Interestingly, Sylvia Magin replied that one of her aunts was an O'Brien and > that the old pronunciation was actually o-BREE-on. This is exactly the > pronunciation that I had been told about. I was also told that the spelling was > something like Obryyn. > I'm not sure whether the unusual pronunciation led to speculation that the > root was actually a Dutch name or if there is basis for that claim. > I do have 1790 census data for Thomas O'Brien in Resselaerville, Albany > County and an account of him arriving in East Jewett about 1806 (Early Settlers > of East Jewett by Horatio N. Beach, reprinted from Catskill Examiner, 17 August > 1871). Both of those references are to Thomas O'Brien. > Does Obryyn or Obyun make any more sense to you? > Thanks, > Tom McHugh > > PS: I agree with all of the 'fan-mail' that you've been getting. This is a > fantastic group here and you seem to be the driving force. Thanks again. > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Greene County - Abstracts of Wills 1800-1900 - going on-line now! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== The Diary of John Barr, Ensign in the Revolutionary War. Come read about our revolutionary past from the eyes of one who lived it! http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page

Sylvia, I noticed the new obit for Anthony Thomas this morning. Does it really say he came to America in 1810? He would have missed Waterloo, the crowning of Louis XVIII, and most of the Peninsular Wars. His name caught my attention b/c he ties in with the Plank family. Karol