----- Original Message ----- From: "Annette Campbell" <anncamp@linkny.com> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 11:13 AM Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] Thnks Jim B. > > Hi Jim, > Thanks much for thinking of me. I'm a Brandow nut, that's for sure!!! I know Bruce Smith of California. We correspond frequently only if to say hello and he likes to send me photos of his flower gardens which are beautiful. To all the Brandow descendents---Happy Spring and happy searching. May we all find that elusive family member hiding in another state somewhere to complete the twig or branch. > > > > > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Greene County - Abstracts of Wills 1800-1900 - going on-line now! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

Hi Jim, Thanks much for thinking of me. I'm a Brandow nut, that's for sure!!! I know Bruce Smith of California. We correspond frequently only if to say hello and he likes to send me photos of his flower gardens which are beautiful. To all the Brandow descendents---Happy Spring and happy searching. May we all find that elusive family member hiding in another state somewhere to complete the twig or branch.

The families mentioned here are on the same page of the Catskill 1810 with my John Schermerhorn thus; Abraham Hollenbeck, Caspar Klauw, John Van Hoesen In 1820 at Athens - cross over families William Tully,Abraham Spoor and Nicholas Van Loon. I believe the John Schermerhorn at Catskill in 1810 and Athens in 1820 are the same man. A john Schermerhorn had a daughter christened 1799 at Athens his wife was Hendrickje Van Hoesen - no other children mentioned. Natie Groom was the sponsor. Jack -----Original Message----- From: NYGREENE-L-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:NYGREENE-L-request@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John VanBuskirk Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:02 AM To: NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Buskirk site, (was New to list) Hi I do not have any info on your Helen Royce/Rice. In my website under "Short History of Tully:" I show the connections of several families that moved together from Greene Co /Coxsackie Athens Catskill area to Tully/ Preble NY area between 1802 and 1820. These are all families I have in my tree. These are the only families I have studied from that area. Mainly the families are of Dutch Coloniak origin. Most were among the original families in early Albany Co/Rennselaer employee tennant families. They include Hallenbeck, Klauw, Van Hoesen, Van Loon, Calyer, Spoor, Conyn, Van Vechten (this was the common family that the others married into, of the Tully group) My Van Buskirks were in Manhattan in 1654 and a few of them were in the Coxsackie area by 1720s, my ancestor bp1731 near New York, married a Maria Klauw bp1738 at ZionLutheran Church Athens, maried 1760 at same church. Their son John married Eva Spoor, both were baptized at Zion Lutheran at the same service January 1762 married about 1780. All of their 9 children and they themselves came to Preble /Tully area, One went on to Michigan, the others remained and raised families in the area. These are thefamilies I refer to. I have made a lot of progress on the early families , nothing later than 1800 in the Greene Co area. I hope that helps you know where I may be able to help someone. good luck.JOHN C VAN BUSKIRK http://www.geocities.com/vanbus1/ jvanbus1@twcny.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <clideryce@starband.net> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:34 PM Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Buskirk site, (was New to list) > John wrote: > > Half of my family are > > Greene Co based, and or Columbia Co, many both. I spent several summer > > vacations in the area and at the Vedder Library when it was open usually > > one day in my week available. I was a member of Greene Co Historical > > then 1965 - 1970. good luck JOHN C VAN BUSKIRK > > http://www.geocities.com/vanbus1/ > > jvanbus1@twcny.rr.com > > John and list: > > John, I looked at your site and have a question, but it relates to family > lines that seem to have moved on from Greene Co. The question is about a > three times married, woman, Helen Mae Rice, whose father was born in > Greene Co. Sept. 15, 1808, left there just before 1820 and proceeded > slowly westward. Daughter, Helen Mae Rice was born in Cattaraugus Co. in > the 1840's. > > She married first a man with the last name of VADER, (maybe connected to > the VEDDER line?). She was a school teacher and apparently known as > Holley VADER during this marriage, no children. She next married a Norris > KELLOGG, had two children, and then married a Julius or Julian VOSBURGH. > > The Vader marriage was apparently NY. and/or IA., the Kellogg, Greene or > Jefferson Co.IA. and/or Creighton, NE. and the Vosburgh was the Creighton, > NE. area. After the third husband died, she and the Kellogg daughter > moved to Julesburg, Co. where the daughter died, in the late 1920's. > Helen died in Coffeyville, KS. in 1931, (got around a bit, didn't she!) > > No wonder I can find very little trace of her grandfather, Ephraim > Rice/Royce, in Greene Co. Catskill area, NY. He spent 25 years there, but > they just seemed to brush out their tracks as they left. > > I know that at least branches of these three line's, just seemed to > migrate westward, right along with my Rices. Thought I would ask if > anyone had records connected to any of them, as they moved westward from > Greene Co. > > Thanks, > Clyde Rice, (DNA proved to be Royce, of CT.) > > > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Greene County - Abstracts of Wills 1800-1900 - going on-line now! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== Greene County - Abstracts of Wills 1800-1900 - going on-line now! http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Hi John! I thank you for your return. When I found at least the Vosburgh mention, on your site, even though it seemed to be on the edge of your tree, and the Vader/Vedder possibility, I thought I would ask. Again, thank you, Clyde Rice > Hi I do not have any info on your Helen Royce/Rice. In my website > under "Short History of Tully:" I show the connections of several > families that moved together from Greene Co /Coxsackie Athens Catskill > area to Tully/ Preble NY area between 1802 and 1820. These are all > families I have in my tree. These are the only families I have studied > from that area.

Hi I do not have any info on your Helen Royce/Rice. In my website under "Short History of Tully:" I show the connections of several families that moved together from Greene Co /Coxsackie Athens Catskill area to Tully/ Preble NY area between 1802 and 1820. These are all families I have in my tree. These are the only families I have studied from that area. Mainly the families are of Dutch Coloniak origin. Most were among the original families in early Albany Co/Rennselaer employee tennant families. They include Hallenbeck, Klauw, Van Hoesen, Van Loon, Calyer, Spoor, Conyn, Van Vechten (this was the common family that the others married into, of the Tully group) My Van Buskirks were in Manhattan in 1654 and a few of them were in the Coxsackie area by 1720s, my ancestor bp1731 near New York, married a Maria Klauw bp1738 at ZionLutheran Church Athens, maried 1760 at same church. Their son John married Eva Spoor, both were baptized at Zion Lutheran at the same service January 1762 married about 1780. All of their 9 children and they themselves came to Preble /Tully area, One went on to Michigan, the others remained and raised families in the area. These are thefamilies I refer to. I have made a lot of progress on the early families , nothing later than 1800 in the Greene Co area. I hope that helps you know where I may be able to help someone. good luck.JOHN C VAN BUSKIRK http://www.geocities.com/vanbus1/ jvanbus1@twcny.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <clideryce@starband.net> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:34 PM Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Buskirk site, (was New to list) > John wrote: > > Half of my family are > > Greene Co based, and or Columbia Co, many both. I spent several summer > > vacations in the area and at the Vedder Library when it was open usually > > one day in my week available. I was a member of Greene Co Historical > > then 1965 - 1970. good luck JOHN C VAN BUSKIRK > > http://www.geocities.com/vanbus1/ > > jvanbus1@twcny.rr.com > > John and list: > > John, I looked at your site and have a question, but it relates to family > lines that seem to have moved on from Greene Co. The question is about a > three times married, woman, Helen Mae Rice, whose father was born in > Greene Co. Sept. 15, 1808, left there just before 1820 and proceeded > slowly westward. Daughter, Helen Mae Rice was born in Cattaraugus Co. in > the 1840's. > > She married first a man with the last name of VADER, (maybe connected to > the VEDDER line?). She was a school teacher and apparently known as > Holley VADER during this marriage, no children. She next married a Norris > KELLOGG, had two children, and then married a Julius or Julian VOSBURGH. > > The Vader marriage was apparently NY. and/or IA., the Kellogg, Greene or > Jefferson Co.IA. and/or Creighton, NE. and the Vosburgh was the Creighton, > NE. area. After the third husband died, she and the Kellogg daughter > moved to Julesburg, Co. where the daughter died, in the late 1920's. > Helen died in Coffeyville, KS. in 1931, (got around a bit, didn't she!) > > No wonder I can find very little trace of her grandfather, Ephraim > Rice/Royce, in Greene Co. Catskill area, NY. He spent 25 years there, but > they just seemed to brush out their tracks as they left. > > I know that at least branches of these three line's, just seemed to > migrate westward, right along with my Rices. Thought I would ask if > anyone had records connected to any of them, as they moved westward from > Greene Co. > > Thanks, > Clyde Rice, (DNA proved to be Royce, of CT.) > > > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Greene County - Abstracts of Wills 1800-1900 - going on-line now! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

John wrote: Half of my family are > Greene Co based, and or Columbia Co, many both. I spent several summer > vacations in the area and at the Vedder Library when it was open usually > one day in my week available. I was a member of Greene Co Historical > then 1965 - 1970. good luck JOHN C VAN BUSKIRK > http://www.geocities.com/vanbus1/ > jvanbus1@twcny.rr.com John and list: John, I looked at your site and have a question, but it relates to family lines that seem to have moved on from Greene Co. The question is about a three times married, woman, Helen Mae Rice, whose father was born in Greene Co. Sept. 15, 1808, left there just before 1820 and proceeded slowly westward. Daughter, Helen Mae Rice was born in Cattaraugus Co. in the 1840's. She married first a man with the last name of VADER, (maybe connected to the VEDDER line?). She was a school teacher and apparently known as Holley VADER during this marriage, no children. She next married a Norris KELLOGG, had two children, and then married a Julius or Julian VOSBURGH. The Vader marriage was apparently NY. and/or IA., the Kellogg, Greene or Jefferson Co.IA. and/or Creighton, NE. and the Vosburgh was the Creighton, NE. area. After the third husband died, she and the Kellogg daughter moved to Julesburg, Co. where the daughter died, in the late 1920's. Helen died in Coffeyville, KS. in 1931, (got around a bit, didn't she!) No wonder I can find very little trace of her grandfather, Ephraim Rice/Royce, in Greene Co. Catskill area, NY. He spent 25 years there, but they just seemed to brush out their tracks as they left. I know that at least branches of these three line's, just seemed to migrate westward, right along with my Rices. Thought I would ask if anyone had records connected to any of them, as they moved westward from Greene Co. Thanks, Clyde Rice, (DNA proved to be Royce, of CT.)

I thought Annette might find this interesting. Scroll down to see the Brandow connection. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Bill and Cathy McGrath [mailto:seamus@capital.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 8:38 PM To: NYRENSSE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Rensselaer] Fw: Rensselaer,Troy NY 100 years... Message sent to Troy Irish Genealogy List and Rensselaer County List. For some time now I have been posting excerpts from the book Troy's 100 Years on the above two lists. One of the items I posted on June 20, 2003 was on the Chief Engineers of the City Fire Department. That article triggered the following email which may interest list members. The sender has given permission to post his message on the two lists in the hope that he will receive some useful suggestions and or recommendations. His email address is: baysidesmith@cox.net Regards, Bill McGrath Clifton Park, NY ----- Original Message ----- From: Bruce & Meredith Smith To: seamus@capital.net Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 6:28 PM Subject: Rensselaer,Troy NY 100 years... Hi Bill McGrath, My name is Bruce M. Smith of Bayside, CA. I saw your periodic addition to a project of some kind with your addition of Troy History 100 years 1789-1889, and the list of Chief Engineers for the Troy Fire Dept. The name I was researching that came up with your addition ...was "N.B. Starbuck", listed as a Chief engineer of Troy in 1846 & 1861, in your reference. My interest lays in the 'tug boat' that was named after him. The morning of Wednesday, 13 March 1895, The Tugboat ' N. B. Starbuck ', Capt. Brandow, was operating ...with a Capt. and Crew of 5 men, on the East River, off of Pier #17. While passing a line to the steamship "Seneca" of the Ward Line, a catastrophe occured that resulted in the sinking of the Tugboat N.B.Starbuck. The men had to swim for their lives. Capt Brandow was in such a serious condition that all efforts to resusatate him were futile. I believe that 'Capt Brandow' was Capt. William Brandow,b. 1837, living Brooklyn with wife and children. This man would be a relative of mine and I am interested in learning more about this accident and the Tug. Starbuck. I have a number of Smith family who were chief engineers (marine) on the Hudson, Saint Lawrence, and down along the coast, ...from 1860's through the 1960's, Perhaps you have some suggestions for me as to where to look, or talk to.? Thanks for any help you can provide, or suggest. Sincerely, Bruce M. Smith, Bayside, CA. ==== NYRENSSE Mailing List ==== Check out the AHGP Rensselaer County genealogy website http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrenss2/

Hi How far back do you have on Hallenbeck? I have several lines -6 differebt ways - back to the original immigrant, but mostlyu pre 1800. My families came to Central NY about that time. check my websute, I am happy to share what I have. I have one Bosch marriage which could now be Bush, but it is also way early in 1700s. Half of my family are Greene Co based, and or Columbia Co, many both. I spent several summer vacations in the area and at the Vedder Library when it was open usually one day in my week available. I was a member of Greene Co Historical then 1965 - 1970. good luck JOHN C VAN BUSKIRK http://www.geocities.com/vanbus1/ jvanbus1@twcny.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy Taylor" <JeremyJTaylor@webtv.net> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 5:51 PM Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] New to list > Hello, > I just joined the list, and wanted to briefly introduce myself. I > grew up in Athens, where my parents and some other relatives still live, > and I am currently living in Ravena. Some of the surnames I am > researching come from my mother's side of the family- Hallenbeck, Bush, > Walter, and Godfrey. The Hallenbeck and Bush ancestors lived in the > Athens and Coxsackie areas (at least the ones I know for sure) and the > Walter ancestors lived in Dutchess County. If anyone is working with > any of these families and wants to compare notes, drop me a line. I am > also interested in tracing my father's side of the family, but > unfortunately don't have nearly as much information. Some of the > surnames from his side are Taylor, Vogel, Gwynne and Essenwein, many of > which lived in the NYC area. > > Jeremy > > Visit my website, Updated February 2005 > http://jeremyjtaylor.tripod.com > "We do not inherit the Earth from our parents, we borrow it from our > children." > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Over 200 Greene County cemeteries fully transcribed - look up your ancestor! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Hello, I just joined the list, and wanted to briefly introduce myself. I grew up in Athens, where my parents and some other relatives still live, and I am currently living in Ravena. Some of the surnames I am researching come from my mother's side of the family- Hallenbeck, Bush, Walter, and Godfrey. The Hallenbeck and Bush ancestors lived in the Athens and Coxsackie areas (at least the ones I know for sure) and the Walter ancestors lived in Dutchess County. If anyone is working with any of these families and wants to compare notes, drop me a line. I am also interested in tracing my father's side of the family, but unfortunately don't have nearly as much information. Some of the surnames from his side are Taylor, Vogel, Gwynne and Essenwein, many of which lived in the NYC area. Jeremy Visit my website, Updated February 2005 http://jeremyjtaylor.tripod.com "We do not inherit the Earth from our parents, we borrow it from our children."

I have a friend who has a Curtis Genealogy. She passed along the following : Ezekiel Curtis married Electa Lord a school teacher born 1790, Dec 3rd at E Haddam CT. Ezekiel was a sea captain in Bridgeport CT. He removed to Clinton, Oneida Co. NY in 1808 where he died Nov 29, 1840. She died 1873. He was married to Anne Wooster first. Theodore Curtis born Jan 24, 1843 New Haven, Oswego Co NY married 1866 Roda Jennett Smith, daughter of Wm H and Fanny Lord Smith of New Haven NY. A letter of 1907 from John Lord Curtis born 1848 a single man of Charlestown MA stated that his father was Patrick Boies Curtis born Nov 28 1815 Granville MA. He died Nov 15 1886 at Boston MA. He married in Charlestown MA Caroline Louisa Lord, she was born June 25 1827 and died Apr 25, 1853 in NY. John Lord Curtis states that the mother of Patrick Boies Curtis was a Wadsworth and that he didn't know her husband's given name. Maybe these bits will help someone. Jackie

I don't find a Ralph in my Lord line. Mignon "Hide not your talents, they for use were made. What's a sundial in the shade?" Benjamin Franklin ----- Original Message ----- From: <outtolaunch@juno.com> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 11:28 PM Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] Lord family > Hi all, > > Was Ralph M. Lord, who was in business with my Lackey > relative in Tannersville ("Lackey & Lord") a member of the > family being discussed? > > Regards, > > Peggy > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Over 1400 pages of Greene County information, fully indexed, to help you > find your lost link! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >

I am in the process of 'connecting the dots' of the Greene & Ulster Co Curtis families, back to common ancestors when possible, all in the hopes of discovering where 'my' Curtis' descended from. Would anyone have information on REV LYSANDER CURTIS and REV SYLVANDER CURTIS? I know both were Curtis forenames, but I'm wondering if Sylvander was incorrectly spelled in Beers. There are coincidences that lead me to suspect this may be so, both being born in MD, and both pastors, going to PA for a time, coming back to Greene. Following is information from Greene Co page, censuses and LDS, all I've been able to find, using both forenames, from computer: (and accounting for variations of surname spellings, although I am using common spelling here. Accounting for forename variations is often impossible!) Rev Lysander Curtis, born in Allegany MD,son of Levi & Elizabeth Curtis (no other info on them), was pastor of Athens church 1845-48; went to Berne, Albany; Altoona PA; Athens 1874; 1854 Loonenburgh, Zion Lutheran, retired in Greene Co. Rev Sylvander Curtis 1819-1887, was married to Clarissa Matilda White 1818-1893, dau of Henry White & Almira Tinker. He was born in MD, she in Athens. They were married 1845 in Athens. According to 1880 census, his father was born in VA, his mother in PA; her father in MA, her mother in CT.(her family verified) Both are buried in Mt Hope Cem, with their son Sylvander 1845-1853. Census: 1860 Livingston, Columbia Co Sylvander 42 Lutheran minister MD Clarissa 42 NY Henry 11 NY Alfred 9 NY 1870 Catawissa, Columbia, PA Sylvander 51 clergy MD Clarissa 51 NY Alfred 19 NY Eliza White (her sister) 1880 Amersterdam, Montgomery Sylvander 61 clergyman MD VA PA CM 60 NY MA CT Children: Alfred W Curtis 1851-1925 mar Mary Nelson 1857-1924, dau of Robert Nelson & Harriet L McKelvey; sons Harry McK Curtis, Robert Curtis. Buried Riverside Cem. Henry Curtis mar Lucy Reed, dau of Epetenus & Lucy Reed, moved to Rock Island, Ill, with her sisters Eliza, mar to Marcus Osborn, Sarah, mar to John Corker. Found a Sylvander L Curtis in WWI draft registrations, Houston, Texas, born 1 Nov 1886 Athens, married, self-employed gas engineer, signed Van L Curtis. Could not find anything else about him. Thanks in advance, Peigi

Hi all, Was Ralph M. Lord, who was in business with my Lackey relative in Tannersville ("Lackey & Lord") a member of the family being discussed? Regards, Peggy

At 11:00 AM 25/03/2005, you wrote: >NYGREENE-D Digest Volume 05 : Issue 70 > >Today's Topics: > #1 Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Research ["M. Mignon Matthews" > <cats@eticomm] > #2 Goodcourage ["Scott John (IT)" > <jscott@HanoverD] > >Administrivia: >To unsubscribe from NYGREENE-D, send a message to > > NYGREENE-D-request@rootsweb.com > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > >To contact the list administrator, send mail to >NYGREENE-admin@rootsweb.com. > >______________________________X-Message: #1 >Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:59:47 -0500 >From: "M. Mignon Matthews" <cats@eticomm.net> >To: NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <003201c530b4$84930000$49d1f6cd@home> >Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Research >Content-Type: text/plain; > format=flowed; > charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Hi Sylvia, > >I have been thinking about which line I want most to trace, so my answer to >this was delayed. There are more....... > >I have made no progress with Salina (Hosford) Matthews, except to get a copy >of her obit. I have not even been able to get that for John Albert Matthews >(her husband). John A. was born 8/13/1803, possibly in Columbia Co., and >died 3/14/1855 in Ashland, Greene Co. I don't know where they are buried. >I know their decendents, but want to find their parents and line of decent. >I know that the odds of locating a birth certificate are slim, but is there >anything at the Vedder that might shed some light on John's >ancestors? > >Also, his son, Lauren Alonzo, married Lois Groat on 4/25/1855. They also >lived in Ashland. Lois' Head of Household was John Groat and his wife was >Mercy (Unknown surname). I did not say her parents, because of their ages; >although, she is listed as their daughter. John Groat was born abt. 1774 >and died 1863. He is said to have come from Columbia County, as with John >A. They lived near each other in Ashland and their "children" married, so >perhaps they came from Columbia County together. Mercy Groat was born abt. >1779 and came from Connecticut. They are both buried in the Mountain View >Cemetery in Ashland. Lois was born abt. 1841 and died 8/19/1860. Her only >child was born 8/15/1860. She is buried with Lauren Alonzo and his second >wife, Mary Elizabeth Tompkins, in Pleasant Valley. Lauren A. has a Civil >War marker by his obelisk. I want to find out who John Groat's father was >and search out that line of descent; also, who was Mercy? What was her >surname and who are her parents? You may guess that I am interested in the >mystery of Lois parentage. She may have been the daughter of a deceased >daughter or son; or, she may have been adopted for some other reason. I >just don't think that she is likely the daughter of a 62 year old woman. > >Maybe a will for John Groat? What about land records? > >I probably gave you more background than you need (or want), but I am asking >for your expertise as well as your help in searching. I am learning, but >not experienced. > >Thanks! >Mignon > >"Hide not your talents, they for use were made. What's a sundial in the >shade?" Benjamin Franklin >----- Original Message ----- From: "Sylvia Hasenkopf" <esi@francomm.com> >To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 6:30 PM >Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] Research > > >>Hi folks. I will heading to the Vedder at the beginning of April and have >>some room for some research. Anyone need a will? I do charge a small fee >>of $5 per will or probate packet plus the copy and postage charges. >> >>Just let me know. >> >>Sylvia >> >> >>==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== >>1850 federal census for Prattsville and Windham fully transcribed! Come >>check us out! >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 >> >>============================== >>New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors >>at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: >>http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >> >> > >______________________________ > >X-Message: #2 >Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:39:00 -0500 >From: "Scott John (IT)" <jscott@HanoverDirect.com> >To: NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <1F0A828CBBAF0B4AAA7D1C701B55FC0003E6F15D@hdimail> >Subject: Goodcourage >Content-Type: text/plain > >There are so many Dutch folk on this sight I was wondering if anyone knew >whether or not the name GOODCOURAGE was > >A Dutch name converted to English ? > > > >In Dec 1800 John Schermerhorn married Kitty Goodcourage at Florida, NY - >his brother Martin married Nelly Goodcourage. > > > >Anyone have any clues to this family ? > > > >Jack

There are so many Dutch folk on this sight I was wondering if anyone knew whether or not the name GOODCOURAGE was A Dutch name converted to English ? In Dec 1800 John Schermerhorn married Kitty Goodcourage at Florida, NY - his brother Martin married Nelly Goodcourage. Anyone have any clues to this family ? Jack

Hi Sylvia, I have been thinking about which line I want most to trace, so my answer to this was delayed. There are more....... I have made no progress with Salina (Hosford) Matthews, except to get a copy of her obit. I have not even been able to get that for John Albert Matthews (her husband). John A. was born 8/13/1803, possibly in Columbia Co., and died 3/14/1855 in Ashland, Greene Co. I don't know where they are buried. I know their decendents, but want to find their parents and line of decent. I know that the odds of locating a birth certificate are slim, but is there anything at the Vedder that might shed some light on John's ancestors? Also, his son, Lauren Alonzo, married Lois Groat on 4/25/1855. They also lived in Ashland. Lois' Head of Household was John Groat and his wife was Mercy (Unknown surname). I did not say her parents, because of their ages; although, she is listed as their daughter. John Groat was born abt. 1774 and died 1863. He is said to have come from Columbia County, as with John A. They lived near each other in Ashland and their "children" married, so perhaps they came from Columbia County together. Mercy Groat was born abt. 1779 and came from Connecticut. They are both buried in the Mountain View Cemetery in Ashland. Lois was born abt. 1841 and died 8/19/1860. Her only child was born 8/15/1860. She is buried with Lauren Alonzo and his second wife, Mary Elizabeth Tompkins, in Pleasant Valley. Lauren A. has a Civil War marker by his obelisk. I want to find out who John Groat's father was and search out that line of descent; also, who was Mercy? What was her surname and who are her parents? You may guess that I am interested in the mystery of Lois parentage. She may have been the daughter of a deceased daughter or son; or, she may have been adopted for some other reason. I just don't think that she is likely the daughter of a 62 year old woman. Maybe a will for John Groat? What about land records? I probably gave you more background than you need (or want), but I am asking for your expertise as well as your help in searching. I am learning, but not experienced. Thanks! Mignon "Hide not your talents, they for use were made. What's a sundial in the shade?" Benjamin Franklin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sylvia Hasenkopf" <esi@francomm.com> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 6:30 PM Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] Research > Hi folks. I will heading to the Vedder at the beginning of April and have > some room for some research. Anyone need a will? I do charge a small fee > of $5 per will or probate packet plus the copy and postage charges. > > Just let me know. > > Sylvia > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > 1850 federal census for Prattsville and Windham fully transcribed! Come > check us out! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > >

Hello, I have been trying to find out the parentage of my ggggrandfather Samuel Hensen, the 1810 census of Windham from J.B.Beers "History of Greene County lists 3 Hensen's William Hensen Samuel Hensen ( my relative) John Hensen does anyone know how they are related ? or where they came from? I have hit a brick wall with Samuel, there is information after 1800 but i cant find anything before that. Hope somebody knows something about this, thanks Katie H.

Daniel Angle's original name was Daniel Engelcke. He was born in Hildesheim, Germany, about 1753, and was 5'5" tall. He served in the American Revolution, as a private, in the Brunswick Army of General von Riedesel. This unit was sent to the U.S. as part of the British-hired auxiliary forces (“Hessians”). He was captured at the Battle of Saratoga in October 1777. He deserted from the POW camp at Winterhill (Cambridge, Mass.) in April 1778, and later returned to Rutland, Mass. He joined the American forces in 1781, served with the Massachusetts Continental Army, was honorably discharged at West Point 6/30/1784, was credited with three years of service, and was granted a pension. Daniel settled in Berne, Albany County, NY, in the 1780's and moved to Beach Ridge, Lexington, Greene County, NY, in 1806. Daniel Angle had seven children: Hannah (b. 1787); Jacob (b. 1789); Catherine (b. 1791); Daniel (b.1794), died in infancy; Christopher (b. 1796); Frederick (b. 1797); Peter (b.1803). Christopher Angle served as a captain in the Lexington militia. Daniel Angle died Dec. 2, 1840, in Lexington, NY, and is buried alongside his wife, Catherine Becker, on the family plot. Their youngest son, Peter Angle, is my 3rd great grandfather. His wife was named Dorcas Chapman, and she was born in Connecticut. Bill Smith Brooklyn, NY

Hi Shelly, The Lord homestead site and cemetery are in East Jewett, Greene County, NY. I can't recall the name or number of the road on which they are located; however, if you ask any local where the East Jewett fire house is, they can tell you. The homestead site is to the right of the firehouse when you are facing it and the cemetery is behind the house. The old home is long gone and a modern house sits on the location. The family who live in the house are very friendly and helpful and showed us back to the cemetery. They have volunteered to maintain it and gave me a map of the cemetery with a key when I left. The man's name is Gerry Loucks. Sylvia read the cemetery and can probably give you better directions. It is a good feeling to stand on the grounds of the property where your Lord ancestors lived and died. Best wishes for your visit. Mignon "Hide not your talents, they for use were made. What's a sundial in the shade?" Benjamin Franklin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelley Fox" <shelley.fox@earthlink.net> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Rhoda Coe Kirtland > Mignon > > Where is the Lord hometead site and cemetery? It would be great to visit > it in May. > > Thanks > > Shelley > > >> [Original Message] >> From: M. Mignon Matthews <cats@eticomm.net> >> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Date: 2/26/2005 10:16:36 PM >> Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Rhoda Coe Kirtland >> >> Hi Shelly, >> >> I don't know if he is the definitive source or not, but he did leave some >> good information for us. >> >> I am also a Lord decendent and visited the Lord Homestead site and > cemetery >> last summer. If we are in the same line, I can give you some information >> which I found during my visit. My ggrandfather was Collins Lord, son of > Asa >> Lord of East Jewett, Greene County, NY. >> >> I found the Greene Co. Hist. Soc. and Vedder Research Library to be an >> excellent source. The staff is so friendly, well informed and helpful > that >> it makes it a pleasure from start to finish. This is in Coxsackie and > you >> can find out more about it at >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2/greene_county_historical_society.htm >> >> Also, the Durham Center Museum in Durham holds many records and has a >> friendly, helpful staff as well. You can find more about it at >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2/durham_center_museum.htm >> >> I hope this helps. >> >> Mignon >> >> "Change alone is eternal, perpetual, immortal." Arthur Schopenhauer >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Shelley Fox" <shelley.fox@earthlink.net> >> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 5:51 PM >> Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] Rhoda Coe Kirtland >> >> >> > Is Joshua Borthwick the definitive source in early Durham families? >> > >> > I am trying to verify the husband of Rhoda Coe Kirtland, Borthwick > states >> > it was Christopher but somewhere in my research I came across that she > was >> > married to his brother Benjamin, I know she is buried in the same > cemetary >> > as Benjamin and she might be buried next to him, he did die prior to >> > Christopher. Both Chirstopher and Benjamin died within a few years of >> > each other before 1810. She had 2 sons Benjamin and Orlando, my > husband >> > is a decendant of Benjamin. Benjamin married Anna Hubbard and they > moved >> > to Corfu New York. >> > >> > Would love to get more information on Coe, Hubbard, Kirtland and Lord >> > families. 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Susan, Thank you -- you finally got thru to me....I have added both your addresses to my addressbook, so hopefully your next reply will make it to me. The message that got to me was from today Sunday Mar. 20, 12.12 am---via the NYGreeneCounty-L. AS a back up: Bernice Cousino catscan@Buckeye-Express.com P. O. Box 23224 Toledo, Ohio 43623 (419) 882-3338 (I usually answer with my business name, Ursula Cauffiel Music School) This way if you need to call me, you will get me 95% of the time, the only time that is bad to call is between 1pm and 2:30pm, traveling between home & business...you will get my answer machine. Hopefully the additions to my address book will work for us...Buckeye Express has been making a lot of changes lately, and that is half of the problem. On top of that I am very dumb with computer things. I am amazed that I get as far as I do. Thanks for all the extra tries in reaching me. !!!! Bernice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Kastan" <sevwk@netscape.net> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 12:12 AM Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] VAN WIE Website Info & Reunion Planning Hi Bernice -- Delighted by your interest! Please check your spam filtering setup and & look wherever your email program puts such messages. Tried 3x from different addresses this week (Tues, Weds, Thurs) to write you directly with access info. Will try again tomorrow. If you'll please add both <SEVWK@myfamily.com> and <sevwk@netscape.net> to your list of authorized addresses, that should increase chances of success. As a backup, if you'll send an email to either address with your phone number I'll call you. Regards, Susan "Bernice Cousino" <catscan@buckeye-express.com> wrote: >Susan, I have many Van Wie's in my family tree, direct and married into >other lines, such as Traver, Houghtaling, etc., going back into the >1700's -- Please contact me off list with details about your >website--Bernice catscan@Buckeye-Express.com Thanks for your >time and interest. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Susan Kastan" <sevwk@netscape.net> >To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 2:14 PM >Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] VAN WIE Website Info & Reunion Planning > >> Ron, >> I'm definitely interested! Will email you off-list with contact details. >> Many thanks, >> Susan >> >> "Ron Waldron" <waldronr@erols.com> wrote: >> >Susan, >> >I have about ten VanWie's married into my Waldron family tree, are you >> >interested? >> > >> >Ron W. - In God We Trust - >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: "Susan Kastan" <sevwk@netscape.net> >> >Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] VAN WIE Website Info & Reunion Planning >> >> Researchers & descendants of Hendrick Gerritse Van Wie (arr. New Amsterdam 1664) and related families: >> >> E-mail <SEVWK@myfamily.com> with your name, family connection & lineage for info on: >> >> 1) Access to a password-protected website for exchange on "Van Wie History & Genealogy" >> >> 2) Planning for a future Van Wie Reunion (follow-up to event held in Albany in 2000) >> >> Susan Kastan, NYC __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== 1850 federal census for Prattsville and Windham fully transcribed! Come check us out! http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx __________________________________________________________ Message transport security by GatewayDefender.com 12:13:24 AM ET - 3/20/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/05 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/05