Pat, Wow! Thanks very much. That must have been quite something, as the three families involved had extensive roots in Jewett and Lexington. I have color photocopies of the "fancy" Angle/Whitcomb marriage certificate. It's quite beautiful; my cousin Carol, in Hurley, has the original. There is also a more "official" certificate, without as much ornamantation. I believe that the original, of the second one, is with the Mountain Top Historical Society. I have B&W photocopies of that also. If you'd like a copy of either, or both, let me know and I'll send them. Regards, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: PMorrowJ@cs.com Date: Tuesday, April 5, 2005 6:18 pm Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] Re: Windham Centre/Windham Journal > The Windham Journal, issue of Thursday, September 10, 1868, Married: > In Windham, Sept. 8, at the Presbyterian Parsonage, by Rev. C. > Kendall, Mr. > Ogden Whitcomb of Jewett, and Miss Melissa Johnson of Lexington. > At the same time and place, Mr. Parley W. Angle, of Shandaken, > Ulster Co., > [and] Miss Augusta H. Whitcomb, of Jewett. >

The Windham Journal, issue of Thursday, September 10, 1868, Married: In Windham, Sept. 8, at the Presbyterian Parsonage, by Rev. C. Kendall, Mr. Ogden Whitcomb of Jewett, and Miss Melissa Johnson of Lexington. At the same time and place, Mr. Parley W. Angle, of Shandaken, Ulster Co., [and] Miss Augusta H. Whitcomb, of Jewett. >Pat, I was curious to know if there is a way to check for a marriage announcement in the Windham Journal. The marriage took place in Windham Centre Sept. 8, 1868, and the couple was Parley Angle, of Shandaken (born in Lexington), and Augusta Whitcomb of Jewett. Augusta's brother Ogden Whitcomb married Melissa Johnson on the same day, and the couples served as witnesses for each others ceremonies. Thank you, Bill Smith

Anyone out there researching these two? Sylvia

Looking for parents/information on Dewitt Clinton Croswell, born 1804 Athens, married Caroline Hasbrouck, lived in Sullivan Co 1850, then to Hurley, then Saugerties. I have no confirmative info prior to 1850. Does anyone have any information on Mackay Croswell? I know he was a Catskill printer, newspaperman, had local real estate holdings, etc. I do not know for sure his parents, wife's name, where buried. I suspect he is the brother of Dr Thomas OHara Croswell and Rev Harry Croswell, sons of Capt Caleb & Hannah Kellog, buried in Gilboa. All three were politically/civically active somehow. Read about them if you want more local history that makes US History so alive today, such as the Stroop story made me feel. Goosebumps..... Any Croswell info appreciated, especially as it would tie in with Saugerties Croswells. Peigi

I see where Johannes Stroop was the father of Jacob Schermerhorns wife. I am trying to find out how that Johannes Stroop is related to the Maria Stroop who married Leondert Planck of Athens earlier. Jack -----Original Message----- From: NYGREENE-L-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:NYGREENE-L-request@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ann Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:52 PM To: NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Stroop Murders at Round Top It was Frederick. Read all about it here: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2/history_of_greene_county_section_2.htm -------Original Message------- From: Scott John (IT) Date: 04/05/05 11:12:44 To: NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] Stroop Murders at Round Top Does anyone know what Stroops were involved in the Indian scalping and murder ca 1780 at Round Top ??? Jack ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== Over 1400 pages of Greene County information, fully indexed, to help you find your lost link! http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== 1850 federal census for Prattsville and Windham fully transcribed! Come check us out! http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

Lois, did you ever find any connection between Orson and Moses Howard and Job Howard? Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sylvia Hasenkopf" <esi@francomm.com> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Research > Hi Lois. Checked the probate files for Orson and Moses Howard. Only Orson > was located in the index. I have a will and another document from the > probate file that lists the heirs and their residences. Nothing at all for > Moses, however. > > No will for David Duncan, however there is a Petition for Letters of > Administration for his estate in the probate file that lists his heirs, so > have a copy of that for you. > > Cost: > $10 for the two men > $1.50 copy charges > $1.50 shipping > > Total $13 > > Please send a cheque to: > > Sylvia Hasenkopf > 155 Edison Timmerman Rd > Cairo, NY 12413 > > Lois, what is your mailing address again and I'll pop these in the mail. > > Sylvia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lde2" <lde2@verizon.net> > To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 9:38 PM > Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Research > > >> Sylvia, You sure do have a busy site, good leadership and many >> followers I do enjoy reading all that comes thru. >> >> Do you think that you could find any wills or probates that you could >> copy for me for either David W. Duncan 1823-1891 dies in Cairo, N.Y. >> OR ORSON Howard 1806- 1892, brother Moses Howard 1810- 1888 or their >> father Thomas Howard 1773abt.- 1835. You may recall that you did some >> research on Thomas and wife Mehibitable. >> >> I will be glad to pay $5 each. >> Many thanks. >> Lois >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sylvia Hasenkopf" <esi@francomm.com> >> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 3:30 PM >> Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] Research >> >> >> Hi folks. I will heading to the Vedder at the beginning of April and >> have some room for some research. Anyone need a will? I do charge a >> small fee of $5 per will or probate packet plus the copy and postage >> charges. >> >> Just let me know. >> >> Sylvia >> >> >> ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== >> 1850 federal census for Prattsville and Windham fully transcribed! >> Come >> check us out! >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >> Learn more: >> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >> >> >> >> >> ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== >> 1850 federal census for Prattsville and Windham fully transcribed! Come >> check us out! >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > 1850 federal census for Prattsville and Windham fully transcribed! Come > check us out! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Whoops, sorry, wrong name, but the right web address... Ann -------Original Message------- From: Scott John (IT) Date: 04/05/05 11:12:44 To: NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] Stroop Murders at Round Top Does anyone know what Stroops were involved in the Indian scalping and murder ca 1780 at Round Top ??? Jack ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== Over 1400 pages of Greene County information, fully indexed, to help you find your lost link! http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

It was Frederick. Read all about it here: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2/history_of_greene_county_section_2.htm -------Original Message------- From: Scott John (IT) Date: 04/05/05 11:12:44 To: NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] Stroop Murders at Round Top Does anyone know what Stroops were involved in the Indian scalping and murder ca 1780 at Round Top ??? Jack ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== Over 1400 pages of Greene County information, fully indexed, to help you find your lost link! http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Does anyone know what Stroops were involved in the Indian scalping and murder ca 1780 at Round Top ??? Jack

Check this out: http://www.schenectadyhistory.org/families/schermerhorn/chronicles/5b.html This found in "Google" Lots of other interesting "Stroops" there. Fred Boughton Las Vegas * * * * * * * * * * * * ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott John (IT)" <jscott@HanoverDirect.com> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 7:54 AM Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] Stroop Murders at Round Top > Does anyone know what Stroops were involved in the Indian scalping and > murder ca 1780 at Round Top ??? > > > > Jack > > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Over 1400 pages of Greene County information, fully indexed, to help you > find your lost link! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

I too believe I have Van Hoesen connections as well. Hendrickse Van Hoesen b. ca 1776 at Athens - perhaps had sisters Sarah and Mary - they all married Schermerhorns. One of them had sons named Jacob Van Hoesen Schermerhorn and Francis Van Hoesen Schermerhorn. Jack -----Original Message----- From: NYGREENE-L-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:NYGREENE-L-request@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of James Brady Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 9:02 PM To: NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Hoesen, Clow/Clough, Van Loan >Sherri Mickel rosecrow_12871@yahoo.com , requesting the source for her >information and she indicated it came from the following: > >a photograph of a family tree entitled "Sketch and >Record of the Van Hoesen Family for 230 Years" that >was done for someone in our family around the 1930's. I haven't seen that one, but I do know that there is a lot of confusion in other Van Hoesen genealogies that I've seen. You'd think that if someone could give an exact date for a baptism that they could also tell you where it was. Oh well. That would be helpful though, because the parents names seem to fit for the offspring of their daughter Polly, since she had a daughter Sarah and a son Jacob Van Hoesen. Just guessing here, but I suspect she was born somewhere in Columbia County. The family doesn't look familiar from my Greene County research. >>>>>By my database the Jacob Jurge Van Hoesen, bp. (not born) 28 >Feb 1756, married Geertruy Backus, 4 Feb 1778, at Athens Lutheran, and had >five children baptized at Kinderhook Reformed.<<<<<<< > >Do you have the names of these five children? All bp. Kinderhook Reformed: Johannes, 26 July 1778; Jurriaan, 12 Aug 1781; Maria, 3 Aug 1783; Jacob, 22 Apr 1787; Geertruy, 9 Dec 1789 >The children Sheri has listed for Jacob and Sarah (married 28 Feb 1785) are: >CORNELIUS, JACOB ( BORN 1798?), WILLIAM, JOHN (BORN 26 MAR 1796), POLLY (OR >MARY), SOPHIA, GERTRUDE (OR GETTY), CHRISTINA (OR TINY) None of this looks familiar. Feels like it might be Columbia County to me, where I still have gaps in my Van Hoesens, after, say, 1780 or so. No locations given for any of this? >By the way, Polly is the wife of Henry E. Clow who were parents to Elizabeth >Clough (we have corresponded on this line before). Yeah, if you can find out more, let me know, it's still a gap in my knowledge. Jim ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== Your resource site for Greene County Cemeteries, Biographies, Censuses, Wills and so much more! Check us out! http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Jim, The only location Sherrie gave me was she thought the family all lived in the catskill, ny area (durham, e. durham, prattsville). Thanks, Joan

>Sherri Mickel rosecrow_12871@yahoo.com , requesting the source for her >information and she indicated it came from the following: > >a photograph of a family tree entitled "Sketch and >Record of the Van Hoesen Family for 230 Years" that >was done for someone in our family around the 1930's. I haven't seen that one, but I do know that there is a lot of confusion in other Van Hoesen genealogies that I've seen. You'd think that if someone could give an exact date for a baptism that they could also tell you where it was. Oh well. That would be helpful though, because the parents names seem to fit for the offspring of their daughter Polly, since she had a daughter Sarah and a son Jacob Van Hoesen. Just guessing here, but I suspect she was born somewhere in Columbia County. The family doesn't look familiar from my Greene County research. >>>>>By my database the Jacob Jurge Van Hoesen, bp. (not born) 28 >Feb 1756, married Geertruy Backus, 4 Feb 1778, at Athens Lutheran, and had >five children baptized at Kinderhook Reformed.<<<<<<< > >Do you have the names of these five children? All bp. Kinderhook Reformed: Johannes, 26 July 1778; Jurriaan, 12 Aug 1781; Maria, 3 Aug 1783; Jacob, 22 Apr 1787; Geertruy, 9 Dec 1789 >The children Sheri has listed for Jacob and Sarah (married 28 Feb 1785) are: >CORNELIUS, JACOB ( BORN 1798?), WILLIAM, JOHN (BORN 26 MAR 1796), POLLY (OR >MARY), SOPHIA, GERTRUDE (OR GETTY), CHRISTINA (OR TINY) None of this looks familiar. Feels like it might be Columbia County to me, where I still have gaps in my Van Hoesens, after, say, 1780 or so. No locations given for any of this? >By the way, Polly is the wife of Henry E. Clow who were parents to Elizabeth >Clough (we have corresponded on this line before). Yeah, if you can find out more, let me know, it's still a gap in my knowledge. Jim

Jim, I found this information on worldconnect.rootsweb. I followed up with the author, Sherri Mickel rosecrow_12871@yahoo.com , requesting the source for her information and she indicated it came from the following: a photograph of a family tree entitled "Sketch and Record of the Van Hoesen Family for 230 Years" that was done for someone in our family around the 1930's. >>>>>By my database the Jacob Jurge Van Hoesen, bp. (not born) 28 Feb 1756, married Geertruy Backus, 4 Feb 1778, at Athens Lutheran, and had five children baptized at Kinderhook Reformed.<<<<<<< Do you have the names of these five children? The children Sheri has listed for Jacob and Sarah (married 28 Feb 1785) are: CORNELIUS, JACOB ( BORN 1798?), WILLIAM, JOHN (BORN 26 MAR 1796), POLLY (OR MARY), SOPHIA, GERTRUDE (OR GETTY), CHRISTINA (OR TINY) By the way, Polly is the wife of Henry E. Clow who were parents to Elizabeth Clough (we have corresponded on this line before). I appreicate you checking this, thanks. Joan

Hi Lois. Checked the probate files for Orson and Moses Howard. Only Orson was located in the index. I have a will and another document from the probate file that lists the heirs and their residences. Nothing at all for Moses, however. No will for David Duncan, however there is a Petition for Letters of Administration for his estate in the probate file that lists his heirs, so have a copy of that for you. Cost: $10 for the two men $1.50 copy charges $1.50 shipping Total $13 Please send a cheque to: Sylvia Hasenkopf 155 Edison Timmerman Rd Cairo, NY 12413 Lois, what is your mailing address again and I'll pop these in the mail. Sylvia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lde2" <lde2@verizon.net> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Research > Sylvia, You sure do have a busy site, good leadership and many > followers I do enjoy reading all that comes thru. > > Do you think that you could find any wills or probates that you could > copy for me for either David W. Duncan 1823-1891 dies in Cairo, N.Y. > OR ORSON Howard 1806- 1892, brother Moses Howard 1810- 1888 or their > father Thomas Howard 1773abt.- 1835. You may recall that you did some > research on Thomas and wife Mehibitable. > > I will be glad to pay $5 each. > Many thanks. > Lois > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sylvia Hasenkopf" <esi@francomm.com> > To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 3:30 PM > Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] Research > > > Hi folks. I will heading to the Vedder at the beginning of April and > have some room for some research. Anyone need a will? I do charge a > small fee of $5 per will or probate packet plus the copy and postage > charges. > > Just let me know. > > Sylvia > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > 1850 federal census for Prattsville and Windham fully transcribed! > Come > check us out! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. > Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > 1850 federal census for Prattsville and Windham fully transcribed! Come > check us out! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

>I’m am trying to find a source to confirm some recent information I came >accross on a Polly/Mary (Van Hoesen) Clow. This information indicated she >was baptized April 19, 1796 and died June 26, 1860 and was the daughter of >Jacob G. Van Hoesen (born February 28, 1756 – died November 28, 1809) and <Sarah Garner (born 1752 – died September 1842). Do you have a church or specific citation for that baptism of Polly/Maria Van Hoesen? >The information also indicated that her father, Jacob G., descends from >JUERGEN VAN HOESEN, JAN JACOB VAN HOESEN, JACOB JANSE VAN HOESEN, JAN FRANSE >VAN HOESEN (OR HUSSUM) If that's the line of descent you were given, then I would suggest that it is incorrect. By my database the Jacob Jurge Van Hoesen, bp. (not born) 28 Feb 1756, married Geertruy Backus, 4 Feb 1778, at Athens Lutheran, and had five children baptized at Kinderhook Reformed. Possibly another Jacob Van Hoesen married Sarah Garner? Jim

Would the lady that sent me the info on the Garrigan family please e-mail me Thanks Brenda

Hi I can confirm the line from Jan Franz to Jurgen, thenI go to his brother Caper in my direct line., I do not have his family beyond him He waa bp May 23, 1714 died 1790 married Mary Burgett 1740 m2 Rachel Huyck 1756 His brother Casper and his brotherJan Casper I have followed atleast in lines that wound up in Central NY, but nmot lines thatr stayed in Greene Co. If you want more on them let me know.JOHN C VAN BUSKIRK http://www.geocities.com/vanbus1/ jvanbus1@twcny.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <gadgetsmom@aol.com> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 9:29 AM Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Hoesen, Clow/Clough, Van Loan > I’m am trying to find a source to confirm some recent information I came accross on a Polly/Mary (Van Hoesen) Clow. This information indicated she was baptized April 19, 1796 and died June 26, 1860 and was the daughter of Jacob G. Van Hoesen (born February 28, 1756 – died November 28, 1809) and Sarah Garner (born 1752 – died September 1842). This information also indicated she has at least two daughters, Nancy Adaline and Mabel. > The information also indicated that her father, Jacob G., descends from JUERGEN VAN HOESEN, JAN JACOB VAN HOESEN, JACOB JANSE VAN HOESEN, JAN FRANSE VAN HOESEN (OR HUSSUM) > > There was another daughter, my ggggrandmother, Elizabeth who spelled her name Clough and married a Jeremiah Van Loan. > > I have sources for Polly's marriage to Henry E. Clow and that she is buried in Lexington. > > I am primarily interested in anything to confirm this information on Polly ’s parents? But of course would appreciate any additonal information or sources on this family. > > > > > Thank you, > > Joan Swaney > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > 1850 federal census for Prattsville and Windham fully transcribed! Come > check us out! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

I’m am trying to find a source to confirm some recent information I came accross on a Polly/Mary (Van Hoesen) Clow. This information indicated she was baptized April 19, 1796 and died June 26, 1860 and was the daughter of Jacob G. Van Hoesen (born February 28, 1756 – died November 28, 1809) and Sarah Garner (born 1752 – died September 1842). This information also indicated she has at least two daughters, Nancy Adaline and Mabel. The information also indicated that her father, Jacob G., descends from JUERGEN VAN HOESEN, JAN JACOB VAN HOESEN, JACOB JANSE VAN HOESEN, JAN FRANSE VAN HOESEN (OR HUSSUM) There was another daughter, my ggggrandmother, Elizabeth who spelled her name Clough and married a Jeremiah Van Loan. I have sources for Polly's marriage to Henry E. Clow and that she is buried in Lexington. I am primarily interested in anything to confirm this information on Polly’s parents? But of course would appreciate any additonal information or sources on this family. Thank you, Joan Swaney

Thank you, Paticia, for the info on Stiles. Peigi