Hi Kathy - thanks for sharing! Word is a great format - Sylvia ----- Original Message ----- From: <KABUMPO16@aol.com> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 8:43 PM Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Re: Stroop/Planck > Sylvia, > > After all you have done for the website, the very least I can do is send > you > my little article! It was published in both The Rensselaerville Press > (Winter, 2002-2003 issue) and in one of the publications of the New > England > Historic Genealogical Society last year. > > In what format would you like the article? I can mail or fax you a hard > copy which includes a picture of my grandmother who was the great-great > granddaughter of Georg Benn and Anna ver Planck. The other choice is a > file by > email. It is about 500-600 words. > > Tell me how you would like it. > > Kathy Gire > Granite Bay, CA > > > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Greene County Tax Assessment going on line now! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

John & Rosina Barkley's daughter Emily Melissa. married Nelson Clark Avery on 5Dec1874 by O.S. Baptist clergyman Re. H. Alling at the residence of the bride's father in Jewett. (Windham Journal Extract Vol IV NY dR Vol 366 page 265; see also Greene County 1875 Census Jewett marriages). They had Nellie, Roxie, Lucy Ann and George. have copy of the Holy Bible of Lucy Ann in which the marriage , birth and death of Emily are listed . Born 11July1836 she died 2Dec1897. The birth and death of John Barkley b.3ov1894 -d.Oct1879; Rozina Barkley d.Unable to decipher faded date). Have data on the Avery descendants of Nelson & Emily to share. Georgia Smith Murray georgiamurray@adelphia.net

Thank you, some of it I knew some of it I didn't. I do think that Mary Barkley married John Carr (not Wm). I found her and John in the 1900 and 1910 census. After that I just don't see them again. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sylvia Hasenkopf" <esi@francomm.com> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Research > Looked high and low for her probate papers - nothing.But did find a fair > amount of newspaper listings for the children: > > Rec Fri 29 Dec 1882 > At residence of the bride's parents, Dec 20, by Rev. Fr. Cannane, John J > Carr of Hunter and mary, only d/o the Hon. Benj. F. Barkley of Jewett > > Catskill Examiner Sat 24 June 1905 > In the Town of Jewett June 19, Mrs. Benjamin Barkley aged 72 > > Windham Journal 28 Dec 1882 > At the residence of the brides father, B.F. Barkely, Jewett 20 Dec by Rev. > Fr. Cannane, Wm. Carr (note different forst name) of Hunter and Mary > Barkley > > Windham Journal 18 Sept 1879 > At Hensonville, Sept 11, John Barkely, father of Hon. B.F. Barkley aged > about 75 > > Windham Journal Thursday 30 dec 1869 > At the residence of the bride's father, Dec 27, by Rev Cox, C. Goodwin of > Palenville and Harriet T, d/o John B. and Rosiana Barkley of Jewett > > Catskill Examiner Sat 6 Sept 1884 > At Jewett, Arthur Barkley, eldest son of Ex Sheriff B.F. Barkley, aged 16 > > Catskill Recorder Fri 2 June 1911 > At Hensonville, May 24, Lizzie S, w/o Romaine A. Butts, aged 64. She was > the youngest of the children of Mr. and Mrs. John Barkley and a sister of > Benj. F. Barkley, former Assembylman and Sheriff of Greene Co. She leaves > her husband and son, Juan C. Butts of NYC > > Catskill Examiner Sat 3 April 1886 > At Palenville Mar 23, Rosina, widow of john Barkley. > > Didn't now if you had all this. Looked for obits on all the children - > note tha Roxy and mary are int eh 1855 census, but are not mentioned in > John's will of 1879. There is no cemetery listing for either girl, either. > > In the 1860 census John and Rosaline ar in household 814/912 with > Benjamin28, Emily 23, Harriet 16, Eliza 13, Roxaline 11 and Mary A. 8. > Horace and Margaret are next door with their family.By the 1870 census > John and Rosaline are alone at home, although Benjamin lives next door > with his family and Roamine Butts and family next door to him. > > There is a 1865 census but I would have to do more research at the County > Offices in Catskill to see if they are in there. I am going there this > week as I am looking up some deeds for someone. > > Cost of search $25 > > Sylvia Hasenkopf > 155 Edison Timmerman Rd > Cairo, NY 12413 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Lewis" <llewis001@centurytel.net> > To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 9:46 PM > Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Research > > >> Could you check and see if Rosina Barkley left a will? She died in March >> 1886, about seven years after her husband John Barkley. Rosina's maiden >> name was Kipp. >> They had eight children that I know of, but I don't know that they all >> lived to adulthood. >> Thanks >> Linda >> in Missouri >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sylvia Hasenkopf" <esi@francomm.com> >> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 5:30 PM >> Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] Research >> >> >>> Hi folks. I will heading to the Vedder at the beginning of April and >>> have some room for some research. Anyone need a will? I do charge a >>> small fee of $5 per will or probate packet plus the copy and postage >>> charges. >>> >>> Just let me know. >>> >>> Sylvia >>> >>> >>> ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== >>> 1850 federal census for Prattsville and Windham fully transcribed! Come >>> check us out! >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 >>> >>> ============================== >>> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >>> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >>> Learn more: >>> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== >> Your resource site for Greene County Cemeteries, Biographies, Censuses, >> Wills and so much more! Check us out! >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Over 1400 pages of Greene County information, fully indexed, to help you > find your lost link! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > >

Looked high and low for her probate papers - nothing.But did find a fair amount of newspaper listings for the children: Rec Fri 29 Dec 1882 At residence of the bride's parents, Dec 20, by Rev. Fr. Cannane, John J Carr of Hunter and mary, only d/o the Hon. Benj. F. Barkley of Jewett Catskill Examiner Sat 24 June 1905 In the Town of Jewett June 19, Mrs. Benjamin Barkley aged 72 Windham Journal 28 Dec 1882 At the residence of the brides father, B.F. Barkely, Jewett 20 Dec by Rev. Fr. Cannane, Wm. Carr (note different forst name) of Hunter and Mary Barkley Windham Journal 18 Sept 1879 At Hensonville, Sept 11, John Barkely, father of Hon. B.F. Barkley aged about 75 Windham Journal Thursday 30 dec 1869 At the residence of the bride's father, Dec 27, by Rev Cox, C. Goodwin of Palenville and Harriet T, d/o John B. and Rosiana Barkley of Jewett Catskill Examiner Sat 6 Sept 1884 At Jewett, Arthur Barkley, eldest son of Ex Sheriff B.F. Barkley, aged 16 Catskill Recorder Fri 2 June 1911 At Hensonville, May 24, Lizzie S, w/o Romaine A. Butts, aged 64. She was the youngest of the children of Mr. and Mrs. John Barkley and a sister of Benj. F. Barkley, former Assembylman and Sheriff of Greene Co. She leaves her husband and son, Juan C. Butts of NYC Catskill Examiner Sat 3 April 1886 At Palenville Mar 23, Rosina, widow of john Barkley. Didn't now if you had all this. Looked for obits on all the children - note tha Roxy and mary are int eh 1855 census, but are not mentioned in John's will of 1879. There is no cemetery listing for either girl, either. In the 1860 census John and Rosaline ar in household 814/912 with Benjamin28, Emily 23, Harriet 16, Eliza 13, Roxaline 11 and Mary A. 8. Horace and Margaret are next door with their family.By the 1870 census John and Rosaline are alone at home, although Benjamin lives next door with his family and Roamine Butts and family next door to him. There is a 1865 census but I would have to do more research at the County Offices in Catskill to see if they are in there. I am going there this week as I am looking up some deeds for someone. Cost of search $25 Sylvia Hasenkopf 155 Edison Timmerman Rd Cairo, NY 12413 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Lewis" <llewis001@centurytel.net> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Research > Could you check and see if Rosina Barkley left a will? She died in March > 1886, about seven years after her husband John Barkley. Rosina's maiden > name was Kipp. > They had eight children that I know of, but I don't know that they all > lived to adulthood. > Thanks > Linda > in Missouri > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sylvia Hasenkopf" <esi@francomm.com> > To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 5:30 PM > Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] Research > > >> Hi folks. I will heading to the Vedder at the beginning of April and have >> some room for some research. Anyone need a will? I do charge a small fee >> of $5 per will or probate packet plus the copy and postage charges. >> >> Just let me know. >> >> Sylvia >> >> >> ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== >> 1850 federal census for Prattsville and Windham fully transcribed! Come >> check us out! >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >> Learn more: >> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >> >> >> > > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Your resource site for Greene County Cemeteries, Biographies, Censuses, > Wills and so much more! Check us out! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

http://www.thedailymail.net/articles/2005/04/10/news/news3.txt Minorities historian seeks African Americans who served in WWII By Deborah Travers GREENE COUNTY - It took 50 years after World War II for the United States to recognize an African American who served with valor during the war. President Bill Clinton presented a Medal of Honor to seven American soldiers who were previously denied the medal because of their race. According to the United States Department of Defense, more than one million African Americans served in the military during WW II. Greene County Minorities Historian Charles B. Swain has begun the task of collecting the names of all Greene County African Americans, men and women, living or deceased, who served in the United States military during World War II. Swain says he plans to document and write about the soldiers, hopefully for publication, as his way of honoring their bravery and service to the country. "I think they're entitled to be honored," Swain said. He added that he believes black veterans beyond the World War II era who fought overseas were treated fairly in the armed service and that segregation had by then ended. During World War II, however, African American soldiers were segregated into separate units, mostly noncombat units. Through its official Web site at www.pentagon.mil/news, the Department of Defense states that two black divisions were formed in 1943, the 92nd Division which went to Italy, and the 93rd which was sent to the Pacific. The men of the 93rd were used as a sort of maintenance patrol that moved onto islands after other units captured them.

Sylvia, After all you have done for the website, the very least I can do is send you my little article! It was published in both The Rensselaerville Press (Winter, 2002-2003 issue) and in one of the publications of the New England Historic Genealogical Society last year. In what format would you like the article? I can mail or fax you a hard copy which includes a picture of my grandmother who was the great-great granddaughter of Georg Benn and Anna ver Planck. The other choice is a file by email. It is about 500-600 words. Tell me how you would like it. Kathy Gire Granite Bay, CA

Kathy, I know the Greene Co website would benefit from posting your articles on Georg Benn, if you are interested. Sylvia ----- Original Message ----- From: <KABUMPO16@aol.com> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Re: Stroop/Planck >I am a Planck (Ver Planck) researcher, as well. I have an Anna ver Planck > b.1764 in Oak Hill. She was the daughter of Johannes Planck and > Catharina > Schuh. I have these Plancks back about 4 generations and they were > Palatines. > > My Anna married Georg Benn about whom I have written several articles > because he had the distinction of fighting on both sides of the > Revolution. Only > one side, however, was voluntary! > > I am always interested in hearing about Plancks, ver Plancks, Planks, > etc. > > Kathy > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Your on-line source for Greene County history and genealogy. Stop on by > and find your lost link! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

I am a Planck (Ver Planck) researcher, as well. I have an Anna ver Planck b.1764 in Oak Hill. She was the daughter of Johannes Planck and Catharina Schuh. I have these Plancks back about 4 generations and they were Palatines. My Anna married Georg Benn about whom I have written several articles because he had the distinction of fighting on both sides of the Revolution. Only one side, however, was voluntary! I am always interested in hearing about Plancks, ver Plancks, Planks, etc. Kathy

Many thanks Patricia - that really helped! Sylvia ----- Original Message ----- From: <PMorrowJ@cs.com> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 11:29 AM Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] Re: Vining > Mary Magdalena "Lena" Alle, daughter of J. Christopher and Eva Rose > (Richenecker) Alle, was born 20 Mar 1882 in Germany and died 2 Dec 1922 in > Windham. > When Lena died she was survived by her four children: Carl (age 10), > Louise (age > 8), Stella (age 5) and Leah (age 3). Lena married Newell E. Vining, son of > Jeptha P. and Etta F. (Hitchcock) Vining, on 26 Oct 1911 in Hensonville. > Newell > was born in Jewett on 16 Nov 1886 and died on 14 Oct 1943 in Bridgeport, > CT and > was buried there. He remarried about a year before his death, but the name > of > his second wife is not mentioned in his obituary. When Newell died, Carl > was > living in Bridgeport, CT; Louise had married Lloyd Robert Jenkins and was > living in Walton, NY; Stella had married John Tully and was living in > Poughkeepsie, NY; and Leah had married her first husband, George > Hankinson, and was also > living in Poughkeepsie. > > Patricia Morrow, Windham Town Historian (Greene County, NY) > >>Patricia do you know who this woman married? Mary Magdalena Alle Vining, >>b. > 1882, d. 1922. I'm stumped. > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > The Diary of John Barr, Ensign in the Revolutionary War. Come read about > our revolutionary past from the eyes of one who lived it! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

Mary Magdalena "Lena" Alle, daughter of J. Christopher and Eva Rose (Richenecker) Alle, was born 20 Mar 1882 in Germany and died 2 Dec 1922 in Windham. When Lena died she was survived by her four children: Carl (age 10), Louise (age 8), Stella (age 5) and Leah (age 3). Lena married Newell E. Vining, son of Jeptha P. and Etta F. (Hitchcock) Vining, on 26 Oct 1911 in Hensonville. Newell was born in Jewett on 16 Nov 1886 and died on 14 Oct 1943 in Bridgeport, CT and was buried there. He remarried about a year before his death, but the name of his second wife is not mentioned in his obituary. When Newell died, Carl was living in Bridgeport, CT; Louise had married Lloyd Robert Jenkins and was living in Walton, NY; Stella had married John Tully and was living in Poughkeepsie, NY; and Leah had married her first husband, George Hankinson, and was also living in Poughkeepsie. Patricia Morrow, Windham Town Historian (Greene County, NY) >Patricia do you know who this woman married? Mary Magdalena Alle Vining, b. 1882, d. 1922. I'm stumped.

I haven't been following this Van Hoesen discussion too closely, but I keep picking up on the Planck references. Henry Jones has Anna Planck as the daughter of Ludwig Henrich Planck and Maria Oosterhout. bpt. 6 weeks old 20 Aug 1749 at Newton. He says an Anna Planck md. Cornelius Schermerhoorn 11 March 1764 (Loonenburg Luth Chbk). She would have been Leonhardt's cousin. In a message dated 4/7/2005 12:00:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, NYGREENE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: If Anna Planck daughter of Leandert Planck is the one who married Cornelius Schmerhorn - then I find that connection interesting as Jacob Schermerhorn eldest son of Johannes Schermerhon and Janette Van Hoesen - he married a Stroop and that Johannes would have been his father-in-law who was scalped. That would make Maria Planck a niece of Johannes Strorp thru his sister Maria Stroop.

Hi, I am looking for some information about my great-great grandmother Anna C. Hallenbeck, born Jan 1864, died 1920. She was married to William Henry Bush from Coxsackie, NY, and they had 9 children- twins (died young), William, Naomi, Charles, Goldie, Leonard, George, and Herbert. Her mother was named Lottie (maiden name unknown) who was married to a Hallenbeck, then an Ismond. Anna died in Athens, NY, just outside the village in a house on Schoharie Turnpike. Lottie lived there at one point as well, and a daugher Blanche (Ismond??) was born there. Thanks, Jeremy http://jeremyjtaylor.tripod.com *Updated March 2005* "We do not inherit the Earth from our parents, we borrow it from our children."

Oops ! I meant to say John Schermerhorn(1775-1830?) and Hendrickse/Hannah VAN HOSEN not Van Loon ( although Jan/John Van Hosens mother was Hendrickse Van Loon. - the daughter Jane was christened 1802 at the Zion Lutheran Church. Jack -----Original Message----- From: Scott John (IT) Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:31 AM To: 'NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com' Subject: RE: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Buskirk site, (was New to list) The sponsors at Athens of Jane Schermerhorn daughter of John Schermerhor and Hendrickse Van Loon was John Van Hoesen and Jannetje - is this that family ??? ( as supplied by Mr Van Buskirk). Jack 40. JAN6 VAN HOESEN (JAN CAPARSE5, JAN JACOBSE4, JACOB JANSEN3, JAN FRANZ2, FRANZ1 ??) was born February 28, 1747/48. He married JANNETJE VAN BUSKIRK 1778. She was born 1757. Children of JAN VAN HOESEN and JANNETJE VAN BUSKIRK are: i. HENDRICK7 VAN HOESEN. ii. LENCHNAER VAN HOESEN. iii. NATJE VAN HOESEN. -----Original Message----- From: NYGREENE-L-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:NYGREENE-L-request@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John VanBuskirk Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:55 AM To: NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Buskirk site, (was New to list) Hi All of the names you cite are familiar, they are repeated many times in each family, but again mosat of my data stops a generation too soon. I did check Schermerhorn, and founnd eleven times that one of them married into my family tree. one in Valkenburgh, 4 in Winne, 3 Hallenbeck, 3 bradt, also van vechten, and one Simon J Schermerhorn was the first husband of WillemjeViele who married Levanus Winne, back in the late 1600s. I do not have any connectors in the Schermerhorn lines. I have my files in family tree maker. I can do genealogy reports, rather lengthy by attachments. It may be overwhelming to send the reports to show a single marriage. Or I can send a dozen smaller clips. They would not showthe family naming patterns. Can you find more on the individuals in Catskill in 1810? I am sure they belong within my families, perhaps even in the immediate family I stop with. Let me know how to proceed. JOHN C VAN BUSKIRK http://www.geocities.com/vanbus1/ jvanbus1@twcny.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott John (IT)" <jscott@HanoverDirect.com> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: RE: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Buskirk site, (was New to list) > The families mentioned here are on the same page of the Catskill 1810 with > my John Schermerhorn thus; Abraham Hollenbeck, Caspar Klauw, John Van > Hoesen > > In 1820 at Athens - cross over families William Tully,Abraham Spoor and > Nicholas Van Loon. > > I believe the John Schermerhorn at Catskill in 1810 and Athens in 1820 are > the same man. > > A john Schermerhorn had a daughter christened 1799 at Athens his wife was > Hendrickje Van Hoesen - no other children mentioned. Natie Groom was the > sponsor. > > Jack > > -----Original Message----- > From: NYGREENE-L-request@rootsweb.com > [mailto:NYGREENE-L-request@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John VanBuskirk > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:02 AM > To: NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Buskirk site, (was New to list) > > Hi I do not have any info on your Helen Royce/Rice. In my website under > "Short History of Tully:" I show the connections of several families that > moved together from Greene Co /Coxsackie Athens Catskill area to Tully/ > Preble NY area between 1802 and 1820. These are all families I have in my > tree. These are the only families I have studied from that area. Mainly the > families are of Dutch Coloniak origin. Most were among the original families > in early Albany Co/Rennselaer employee tennant families. They include > Hallenbeck, Klauw, Van Hoesen, Van Loon, Calyer, Spoor, Conyn, Van Vechten > (this was the common family that the others married into, of the Tully > group) My Van Buskirks were in Manhattan in 1654 and a few of them were in > the Coxsackie area by 1720s, my ancestor bp1731 near New York, married a > Maria Klauw bp1738 at ZionLutheran Church Athens, maried 1760 at same > church. Their son John married Eva Spoor, both were baptized at Zion > Lutheran at the same service January 1762 married about 1780. All of their > 9 children and they themselves came to Preble /Tully area, One went on to > Michigan, the others remained and raised families in the area. These are > thefamilies I refer to. I have made a lot of progress on the early families > , nothing later than 1800 in the Greene Co area. > I hope that helps you know where I may be able to help someone. good > luck.JOHN C VAN BUSKIRK > http://www.geocities.com/vanbus1/ > jvanbus1@twcny.rr.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <clideryce@starband.net> > To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:34 PM > Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Buskirk site, (was New to list) > > > > John wrote: > > > > Half of my family are > > > Greene Co based, and or Columbia Co, many both. I spent several summer > > > vacations in the area and at the Vedder Library when it was open usually > > > one day in my week available. I was a member of Greene Co Historical > > > then 1965 - 1970. good luck JOHN C VAN BUSKIRK > > > http://www.geocities.com/vanbus1/ > > > jvanbus1@twcny.rr.com > > > > John and list: > > > > John, I looked at your site and have a question, but it relates to family > > lines that seem to have moved on from Greene Co. The question is about a > > three times married, woman, Helen Mae Rice, whose father was born in > > Greene Co. Sept. 15, 1808, left there just before 1820 and proceeded > > slowly westward. Daughter, Helen Mae Rice was born in Cattaraugus Co. in > > the 1840's. > > > > She married first a man with the last name of VADER, (maybe connected to > > the VEDDER line?). She was a school teacher and apparently known as > > Holley VADER during this marriage, no children. She next married a Norris > > KELLOGG, had two children, and then married a Julius or Julian VOSBURGH. > > > > The Vader marriage was apparently NY. and/or IA., the Kellogg, Greene or > > Jefferson Co.IA. and/or Creighton, NE. and the Vosburgh was the Creighton, > > NE. area. After the third husband died, she and the Kellogg daughter > > moved to Julesburg, Co. where the daughter died, in the late 1920's. > > Helen died in Coffeyville, KS. in 1931, (got around a bit, didn't she!) > > > > No wonder I can find very little trace of her grandfather, Ephraim > > Rice/Royce, in Greene Co. Catskill area, NY. He spent 25 years there, but > > they just seemed to brush out their tracks as they left. > > > > I know that at least branches of these three line's, just seemed to > > migrate westward, right along with my Rices. Thought I would ask if > > anyone had records connected to any of them, as they moved westward from > > Greene Co. > > > > Thanks, > > Clyde Rice, (DNA proved to be Royce, of CT.) > > > > > > > > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > > Greene County - Abstracts of Wills 1800-1900 - going on-line now! > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > > > ============================== > > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > > New content added every business day. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Greene County - Abstracts of Wills 1800-1900 - going on-line now! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. 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The sponsors at Athens of Jane Schermerhorn daughter of John Schermerhor and Hendrickse Van Loon was John Van Hoesen and Jannetje - is this that family ??? ( as supplied by Mr Van Buskirk). Jack 40. JAN6 VAN HOESEN (JAN CAPARSE5, JAN JACOBSE4, JACOB JANSEN3, JAN FRANZ2, FRANZ1 ??) was born February 28, 1747/48. He married JANNETJE VAN BUSKIRK 1778. She was born 1757. Children of JAN VAN HOESEN and JANNETJE VAN BUSKIRK are: i. HENDRICK7 VAN HOESEN. ii. LENCHNAER VAN HOESEN. iii. NATJE VAN HOESEN. -----Original Message----- From: NYGREENE-L-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:NYGREENE-L-request@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John VanBuskirk Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:55 AM To: NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Buskirk site, (was New to list) Hi All of the names you cite are familiar, they are repeated many times in each family, but again mosat of my data stops a generation too soon. I did check Schermerhorn, and founnd eleven times that one of them married into my family tree. one in Valkenburgh, 4 in Winne, 3 Hallenbeck, 3 bradt, also van vechten, and one Simon J Schermerhorn was the first husband of WillemjeViele who married Levanus Winne, back in the late 1600s. I do not have any connectors in the Schermerhorn lines. I have my files in family tree maker. I can do genealogy reports, rather lengthy by attachments. It may be overwhelming to send the reports to show a single marriage. Or I can send a dozen smaller clips. They would not showthe family naming patterns. Can you find more on the individuals in Catskill in 1810? I am sure they belong within my families, perhaps even in the immediate family I stop with. Let me know how to proceed. JOHN C VAN BUSKIRK http://www.geocities.com/vanbus1/ jvanbus1@twcny.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott John (IT)" <jscott@HanoverDirect.com> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: RE: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Buskirk site, (was New to list) > The families mentioned here are on the same page of the Catskill 1810 with > my John Schermerhorn thus; Abraham Hollenbeck, Caspar Klauw, John Van > Hoesen > > In 1820 at Athens - cross over families William Tully,Abraham Spoor and > Nicholas Van Loon. > > I believe the John Schermerhorn at Catskill in 1810 and Athens in 1820 are > the same man. > > A john Schermerhorn had a daughter christened 1799 at Athens his wife was > Hendrickje Van Hoesen - no other children mentioned. Natie Groom was the > sponsor. > > Jack > > -----Original Message----- > From: NYGREENE-L-request@rootsweb.com > [mailto:NYGREENE-L-request@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John VanBuskirk > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:02 AM > To: NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Buskirk site, (was New to list) > > Hi I do not have any info on your Helen Royce/Rice. In my website under > "Short History of Tully:" I show the connections of several families that > moved together from Greene Co /Coxsackie Athens Catskill area to Tully/ > Preble NY area between 1802 and 1820. These are all families I have in my > tree. These are the only families I have studied from that area. Mainly the > families are of Dutch Coloniak origin. Most were among the original families > in early Albany Co/Rennselaer employee tennant families. They include > Hallenbeck, Klauw, Van Hoesen, Van Loon, Calyer, Spoor, Conyn, Van Vechten > (this was the common family that the others married into, of the Tully > group) My Van Buskirks were in Manhattan in 1654 and a few of them were in > the Coxsackie area by 1720s, my ancestor bp1731 near New York, married a > Maria Klauw bp1738 at ZionLutheran Church Athens, maried 1760 at same > church. Their son John married Eva Spoor, both were baptized at Zion > Lutheran at the same service January 1762 married about 1780. All of their > 9 children and they themselves came to Preble /Tully area, One went on to > Michigan, the others remained and raised families in the area. These are > thefamilies I refer to. I have made a lot of progress on the early families > , nothing later than 1800 in the Greene Co area. > I hope that helps you know where I may be able to help someone. good > luck.JOHN C VAN BUSKIRK > http://www.geocities.com/vanbus1/ > jvanbus1@twcny.rr.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <clideryce@starband.net> > To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:34 PM > Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Buskirk site, (was New to list) > > > > John wrote: > > > > Half of my family are > > > Greene Co based, and or Columbia Co, many both. I spent several summer > > > vacations in the area and at the Vedder Library when it was open usually > > > one day in my week available. I was a member of Greene Co Historical > > > then 1965 - 1970. good luck JOHN C VAN BUSKIRK > > > http://www.geocities.com/vanbus1/ > > > jvanbus1@twcny.rr.com > > > > John and list: > > > > John, I looked at your site and have a question, but it relates to family > > lines that seem to have moved on from Greene Co. The question is about a > > three times married, woman, Helen Mae Rice, whose father was born in > > Greene Co. Sept. 15, 1808, left there just before 1820 and proceeded > > slowly westward. Daughter, Helen Mae Rice was born in Cattaraugus Co. in > > the 1840's. > > > > She married first a man with the last name of VADER, (maybe connected to > > the VEDDER line?). She was a school teacher and apparently known as > > Holley VADER during this marriage, no children. She next married a Norris > > KELLOGG, had two children, and then married a Julius or Julian VOSBURGH. > > > > The Vader marriage was apparently NY. and/or IA., the Kellogg, Greene or > > Jefferson Co.IA. and/or Creighton, NE. and the Vosburgh was the Creighton, > > NE. area. After the third husband died, she and the Kellogg daughter > > moved to Julesburg, Co. where the daughter died, in the late 1920's. > > Helen died in Coffeyville, KS. in 1931, (got around a bit, didn't she!) > > > > No wonder I can find very little trace of her grandfather, Ephraim > > Rice/Royce, in Greene Co. Catskill area, NY. He spent 25 years there, but > > they just seemed to brush out their tracks as they left. > > > > I know that at least branches of these three line's, just seemed to > > migrate westward, right along with my Rices. Thought I would ask if > > anyone had records connected to any of them, as they moved westward from > > Greene Co. > > > > Thanks, > > Clyde Rice, (DNA proved to be Royce, of CT.) > > > > > > > > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > > Greene County - Abstracts of Wills 1800-1900 - going on-line now! > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > > > ============================== > > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > > New content added every business day. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Greene County - Abstracts of Wills 1800-1900 - going on-line now! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. 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The following contribution is from Ray E. Hollenbeck <mailto:hollenbeck49@earthlink.net> . A Bit of Revolt In 18th Century Albany Source: "Dutch Uncles and New England Cousins" by Wilson Ober Clough, 1977 The Livingston manor was an important fact on the east bank of the upper Hudson. The patent of its founder, Robert Livingston, had been reaffirmed by Governor Hunter in 1715, upon which Livingston took his seat in the Colonial Assembly as representative of his Manor and its tenants, including some HALLENBECKS. A legislative decision, however, permitted the freeholders of one portion of 6,000 acres, centering around the Linlithgo Church and called "The Camp," to vote for their own representative. Among residents there was one ANDREW GARDNER, who moved there by 1720. He had served for a time with Livingston's militia, for Livingston maintained a small armed force. In 1752, one William Bull and 57 others, tenants on the Manor lands, petitioned the General Court of Massachusetts Bay Colony for permission to settle on some still unoccupied lands not far from Sheffield. The Robert Livingston of this period (3rd generation) was much disturbed, for the boundary line was still in dispute, and the implication for him was that the petitioners, though still his tenants, were hoping to become freeholders without moving, simply by being in Massachusetts. In a Memorial to the then Governor of New York, he pointed out that his Manor reached to the Taquanack Mountains. Nineteen miles and thirty rods east of the Hudson, that his claim rested on Indian deeds of years before, and that one David Ingersoll of Sheffield had been "{very industrious in seducing" his tenants by promises of land, so that they were evading their lawful rents. Indeed, he says, seven New England men and "four of your Memorialists tenants sons" (sic) had surveyed land ten miles in length and four broad and started a tree-fence around it, though said land had been settled by Livingston tenants for 60 to 70 years. Governor Clinton, thereupon, in July of 1753, signed an order for the arrest of certain rioters, including some HALLENBECKS. Though the many HALLENBECKS of this region make identification a bit precarious, we may say that WILLIAM JANS CASPERSE HALLENBECK (1672-1754), and wife, daughter of DIRCK VAN VECHTEN, was a freeholder on the 1720 lists of Claverack, and that his brother CASPER JANS CASPERSZ HALLENBECK, across the river at Loonenberg, was the father of Johannes Clauw's wife, Maria. WILLEM had a number of children, including sons JAN (born 1701), SAMUEL (1703), and MICHAEL (1707). JAN was listed as a freeholder in 1720 Claverack; but, land being limited for many sons, the others appear as tenants on the Livingston Manor. WILLEM and JAN were also linked, as was Andrew Gardner, with the Linlithgo Church,begun about 1722, and the Loonenberg Church. MICHAEL, according to Livingston later, had been a tenant "above thirty years," i.e., since about 1725-28. A still later map of the Livingston Manor shows a HALLENBECK near the Massachusetts line. Now the Governor of Massachusetts got into the dispute, accusing Livingston of acting arbitrarily and not awaiting settlement of the border question, and even of sending sixty men on the land of one Loomis, to destroy his wheat and corn. He added also that "MICHAEL HALLENBECK a Dutchman . . . had been apprehended and closely confined in Dutchess Gaol (it is said to be a dungeon), and most unexceptional Bail refus'd." Governor Shirley therefore protested personally, since the Massachusetts legislature had asked him to "write very particularly," to protect the "common rights of any or all of his Majesty's subjects." He therefore asked "this man's enlargement upon good Bail." Governor Clinton replied that MICHAEL and others had already escaped, and that no bail had been asked, but that he would report. His report of Sept. 25, 1753, states that one Vandeursen and son had been forcibly transported to Massachusetts and rioters ordered arrested, especially for the same MICHAEL HALLENBECK. In 1755 a further outbreak occurred. Sheriff Yates of Albany, having been sent to arrest one Thomas Whittney, had been seized by Robert Nobel and fifteen or twenty men, and taken to a jail in Sheffield. Among the rioters were WILLIAM S. HALLENBECK (son of SAMUEL), MICHAEL, and WILLIAM J. (son of JAN?). MICHAEL appears to be the ring leader, for in March of 1755 Livingston is writing to Governor DeLancey that "MICHAEL HALENBECK (sic) of Tackanick in my Manor has taken a Commission of his Excell'cy Governor Sherley for Capt of malitia (sic) at Tackanick," and has started training men. MICHAEL, upon questioning, said he had been offered such but would not take it. Yet Livingston's men found I the house of JAN HALLENBECK (probably MICHAEL's son) "about 800 yards distant," three New England men, armed; they also reported that Robert Noble's house had loopholes, like a fort, for firing. Also strongly protested was a raid on Livingston's iron works at Ancram, apparently by New Englanders. In May of 1755 JOHN HALENBAKE (sic) writes David Ingersoll a note to inform him that Livingston is building a fort at Taconnet (sic); at which Ingersoll presents Hallenbeck's affidavit to the effect that his house is on disputed land, and that one Tom Connor with 30-40 men came to his Uncle John's house (JAN, son of WILLEM) with swivel guns, knocked a hole back of his chimney and placed one gun there, otherwise disturbed his buildings and said they were building a fort there, and that Livingston would come with 100 men. JAN's brother and sister, DIRCK and CORNELIA, 19 and 17, testified to the same, as also Uncle John's sister-in-law, wife of Robert. (Was this Robert Noble?) To this Livingston replied that JAN HALLENBECK's lease had expired two years earlier, and that he had been advised to move, but was permitted to remain a year to gather crops; but that he had remained and replanted, though he had a place near Sheffield. Besides, Livingston was disturbed by armed men from Massachusetts who frightened his tenants. A glance at the present boundary line of Massachusetts where it touches Connecticut, just east of Ancram, will show a curious jog, probably a result of this same quarrel. What happened later is not too clear. JAN and MICHAEL HALLENBECK, brothers, are found around 1756 in Egremont, Mass., and I seem to have read somewhere that MICHAEL was once a sheriff in Great Barrington. Yet MICHAEL's progeny appear later to be across the river around Athens; and his son ABRAHAM married a Catherine Clow. Robert Noble was arrested again twenty years later, as well as in the interim, but no further HALLENBECK seems involved. Around 1795 a petition with some 214 signers asked for an investigation of the Livingston claims, but the New York Assembly reported against it, despite the petition's protest that his tenants were not to be regarded as slaves or vassals. Yet the rent wars of 1848 show how long the patroon system did continue. _____ Return to Hollenbeck Genealogy <http://members.aol.com/Rdkone/hollenbeck.html>

Patricia do you know who this woman married? Mary Magdalena Alle Vining, b. 1882, d. 1922 I'm stumped. Sylvia ----- Original Message ----- From: <PMorrowJ@cs.com> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 6:18 PM Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] Re: Windham Centre/Windham Journal > The Windham Journal, issue of Thursday, September 10, 1868, Married: > In Windham, Sept. 8, at the Presbyterian Parsonage, by Rev. C. Kendall, > Mr. > Ogden Whitcomb of Jewett, and Miss Melissa Johnson of Lexington. > At the same time and place, Mr. Parley W. Angle, of Shandaken, Ulster Co., > [and] Miss Augusta H. Whitcomb, of Jewett. > >>Pat, > I was curious to know if there is a way to check for a marriage > announcement > in the Windham Journal. The marriage took place in Windham Centre Sept. 8, > 1868, and the couple was Parley Angle, of Shandaken (born in Lexington), > and > Augusta Whitcomb of Jewett. Augusta's brother Ogden Whitcomb married > Melissa > Johnson on the same day, and the couples served as witnesses for each > others > ceremonies. > Thank you, > Bill Smith > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Over 150 family bibles of Greene County families on-line now. Track down > your lost ancestor! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

In 1802/3 John Van Hoesen and wife Jannetje were sponsors for the daughter Jane of John Schermerhorn and his wife Hendrickje(Hannah) Van Hoesen at Athens Zion Lutheran. Can anyone identify John Van Hoesen and Jannetje ? Jack

If Anna Planck daughter of Leandert Planck is the one who married Cornelius Schmerhorn - then I find that connection interesting as Jacob Schermerhorn eldest son of Johannes Schermerhon and Janette Van Hoesen - he married a Stroop and that Johannes would have been his father-in-law who was scalped. That would make Maria Planck a niece of Johannes Strorp thru his sister Maria Stroop. Jacob Schermerhorns father Johannes Schermerhorn who married Janettje Van Hosen - he was god father to Cornelius Schermerhorn and Anna Plancks son Johann b. 1777 at Athens. I am trying to connect this Johannes of Cornelius as the John who resided at Catskill and Athens from 1800 - 1820 - and husband to Hendrickse Van Hoesen. Jacob Schermerhorn of Johann Schmerhorn - three of his brothers and his fathers second marriage were to Van Hoesens. Jack If this makes any sense. -----Original Message----- From: NYGREENE-L-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:NYGREENE-L-request@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of KarolHugh@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 5:29 AM To: NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] Re: Stroop Henry Jones lists Maria Straub/Stroop, wife of Leonardt Planck, as the daughter of Henrich. Not sure which Johannes Stroop you're looking for. If looking for the original Palatine then Maria was his granddaughter. She was baptized 8 Oct 1750. Henrich had a son, also named Johannes. In a message dated 4/6/2005 3:02:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, NYGREENE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: see where Johannes Stroop was the father of Jacob Schermerhorns wife. I am trying to find out how that Johannes Stroop is related to the Maria Stroop who married Leondert Planck of Athens earlier. ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== Moving in and Moving on - Greene County's Migrations Database - add your families now and make the connection! http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Henry Jones lists Maria Straub/Stroop, wife of Leonardt Planck, as the daughter of Henrich. Not sure which Johannes Stroop you're looking for. If looking for the original Palatine then Maria was his granddaughter. She was baptized 8 Oct 1750. Henrich had a son, also named Johannes. In a message dated 4/6/2005 3:02:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, NYGREENE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: see where Johannes Stroop was the father of Jacob Schermerhorns wife. I am trying to find out how that Johannes Stroop is related to the Maria Stroop who married Leondert Planck of Athens earlier.

Cornelia Renne (1827-1910) was daughter of Stephen Renne (1789-1872) Greene Co and Fanny Miller (1792-1861). Cornelia married John Monroe (1829-1903) and had Julia , Platt, Mary and Archie. Cornelia's siblings, Lucy, Harriet, Platt, Mary K., Arietta. There were four other siblings of whom I do not have any information. Phyllis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sylvia Hasenkopf" <esi@francomm.com> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 5:38 PM Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] John Monroe and Cornelia Renne > Anyone out there researching these two? > > Sylvia > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Greene County - Abstracts of Wills 1800-1900 - going on-line now! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >