Thank you Sue. I hope a family member of one of these families was the purchaser. I had searched under Shermerhorn but found nothing perhaps because the sale was closed already. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "smulvey" <smulvey@comcast.net> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] RE; Schermerhorn bible on ebay > > Linda, > > I found the bible using "Shermerhorn" spelling. Here's the page: > > Your might have to copy & paste the address and you might have to be an ebay > member to view it. > http://cgi.ebay.com/DECORATIVE-1884-LARGE-BIBLE-SHERMERHORN-FAMILY-HISTORY_W 0QQitemZ6547099824QQcategoryZ29223QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > Susan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ladymouse" <ladymouse@stny.rr.com> > To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 10:52 AM > Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] RE; Schermerhorn bible on ebay > > > > Did any one actually see this Bible on ebay. I could not find it. I also > > had a cousins who sells and buys on ebay check he even checked closed > > auctions and did not find it. Albert SCHERMERHORN and Luella VAN PELT were > > my great uncle and great aunt. I also have been in touch with a > > great-grandson. We would like some more information such as who the seller > > was or what the item number was or even a link to it would be helpful. > > > > Linda Johnson Slawson > > Researching Peter SCHERMERHORN b. 20 Nov 1790 (Albert's grandfather) > > Rachael EDMONDS b. 12 Jan 1796 w/o Peter. Rachel's parents > > Kennedy (various spellings including Cannada) EDMONDS b. 3 Apr 1766 his > > wife Leah KUHN/COON Kennedy's parents William EDMOND/EDMONDS and Rachael > > KENNEDY > > > > From: KarolHugh@aol.com > > Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] ebay Bibles > > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 13:24:02 EDT > > "It also has a wonderful family history section featuring entries for the > > Shermerhorn family of the Butternuts area of Otsego county New york. The > > entries go all the way back to 1861 in the births section when Albert > > Shermerhorn > > was born and include the birth of his future wife; Luella Van Pelt who was > > born in 1866." > > > > > > > > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > > Greene County - Abstracts of Wills 1800-1900 - going on-line now! > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > > > ============================== > > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > 1850 federal census for Prattsville and Windham fully transcribed! Come > check us out! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

Linda, I found the bible using "Shermerhorn" spelling. Here's the page: Your might have to copy & paste the address and you might have to be an ebay member to view it. http://cgi.ebay.com/DECORATIVE-1884-LARGE-BIBLE-SHERMERHORN-FAMILY-HISTORY_W0QQitemZ6547099824QQcategoryZ29223QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "ladymouse" <ladymouse@stny.rr.com> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 10:52 AM Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] RE; Schermerhorn bible on ebay > Did any one actually see this Bible on ebay. I could not find it. I also > had a cousins who sells and buys on ebay check he even checked closed > auctions and did not find it. Albert SCHERMERHORN and Luella VAN PELT were > my great uncle and great aunt. I also have been in touch with a > great-grandson. We would like some more information such as who the seller > was or what the item number was or even a link to it would be helpful. > > Linda Johnson Slawson > Researching Peter SCHERMERHORN b. 20 Nov 1790 (Albert's grandfather) > Rachael EDMONDS b. 12 Jan 1796 w/o Peter. Rachel's parents > Kennedy (various spellings including Cannada) EDMONDS b. 3 Apr 1766 his > wife Leah KUHN/COON Kennedy's parents William EDMOND/EDMONDS and Rachael > KENNEDY > > From: KarolHugh@aol.com > Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] ebay Bibles > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 13:24:02 EDT > "It also has a wonderful family history section featuring entries for the > Shermerhorn family of the Butternuts area of Otsego county New york. The > entries go all the way back to 1861 in the births section when Albert > Shermerhorn > was born and include the birth of his future wife; Luella Van Pelt who was > born in 1866." > > > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Greene County - Abstracts of Wills 1800-1900 - going on-line now! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

Did any one actually see this Bible on ebay. I could not find it. I also had a cousins who sells and buys on ebay check he even checked closed auctions and did not find it. Albert SCHERMERHORN and Luella VAN PELT were my great uncle and great aunt. I also have been in touch with a great-grandson. We would like some more information such as who the seller was or what the item number was or even a link to it would be helpful. Linda Johnson Slawson Researching Peter SCHERMERHORN b. 20 Nov 1790 (Albert's grandfather) Rachael EDMONDS b. 12 Jan 1796 w/o Peter. Rachel's parents Kennedy (various spellings including Cannada) EDMONDS b. 3 Apr 1766 his wife Leah KUHN/COON Kennedy's parents William EDMOND/EDMONDS and Rachael KENNEDY From: KarolHugh@aol.com Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] ebay Bibles Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 13:24:02 EDT "It also has a wonderful family history section featuring entries for the Shermerhorn family of the Butternuts area of Otsego county New york. The entries go all the way back to 1861 in the births section when Albert Shermerhorn was born and include the birth of his future wife; Luella Van Pelt who was born in 1866."

Sheila, I have a copy of the Van Deusen book, by Capt. A.H. Van Deusen and been looking through it, so far I have no Simeon Miller and no Margaret with that birth year and location. Have a few more pages to do, but was wondering if there is a chance that Margaret may have been born in a different location or year? Sylvia's suggeston of the death certificate could offer you a lot of needed information. Linda Sheila <smd@surferz.net> wrote: Do any Van Dusen researchers have information to share on a Margaret Van Dusen who married Simeon Miller and are buried in the Huntersfield cemetery? Margaret born in Greene County 1810, d 1888, parents unknown. They were known in the Ashland census and resided with son Lee. Thanks, Sheila ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 7:32 PM Subject: NYGREENE-D Digest V05 #162 ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== Over 200 Greene County cemeteries fully transcribed - look up your ancestor! http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

In 1850 there is an Elias Wright age 17 residing in a hotel in Canisteo, Steuben Co., NY, a laborer born in NY 1855 census for Greene Co. at Durham has a Bradford Wright who is a farmer, 37, with a son Henry age 12 born in Albany Co. and a daughter Avista, age 5. Wife is Mary is 34 who was born in Albany County. 1860 census for Greenville, Greene Co., NY Wright Eli age 28, laborer Eliza age 24 Bradford age 2 Arvesta 6/12 (six months) All born in New York 1870 Gilboa, Schoharie Co., NY page 193 Wright Bradford age 12 Olivinia age 10 both born in New York and both attending school They are directly under the listing for Elias Gordon age 63 and his wife Mary J. age 49, both born in New York. Elias is a farmer. I suspect they are residing with this family and in some way are related to them. There is also another Bradford Wright family Cairo, Greene Co., NY, page 165 WRIGHT Bradford age 52 Mary age 48 Ella age 12 Lucius age 10 Bradford is a farmer. All were born in New York. Perhaps Bradford, age 12 is his nephew. Residing with the Bradford Wright family is Cornelius (cannot make out the last name) age 21, a farmer. The next family on this page is: WRIGHT Henry age 27, a farmer Julia age 20, keeping house both born in New York Then comes a Wickland family and then, WRIGHT Clinton age 58, farmer Elenore age 49, keeping house Irving P. age 18, farmer All born in New York 1880 Durham, Greene Co., NY page 2B WRIGHT Bradford age 61, farmer Mary age 21, daughter, at home Lucious age 19, son, at home All born in New York On this same page is: KERTLAND Joseph age 62, farmer Louisa age 56, wife, keeping house Residing with them: WRIGHT, Bell age 25, niece, at home Bradford age 24, nephew, farm laborer All born in New York. Joseph's parents were born in Connecticut On the next page is Kirtland, William age 72, a brother to Joseph, a boarder, born in New York. Then further down on this page is: WRIGHT Silas age 63, farmer, born in NY and parents born in Connecticut Elener age 48, wife Mattie age 20 daughter William H. age 18 son WRIGHT Anson age 57 Sarah 55 SEARLS, John age 80, father in law Residing with them is a Gibson family Osker age 38 son in law Mary E age 33 daughter Alton age 10 grandson Wilber age 5 grandson All born in New York WRIGHT, Abigail age 87, mother, boarder born in Connecticut WRIGHT Charles 52 farmer Abigail 55 wife Arthur 14 son All born in New York 1900 Catskill, Greene Co., NY pages 9A and 9B (I did not check on any other Wright's in this census) WRIGHT Bradford age 42 born September 1857 Isabella age 43 born August 1856 Mabel K born June 1884 age 15 Hazel age 9 born April 1891 Buried at Locust Hill Cemetery in the Town of Greenville. There are other Wrights buried here. Mary Ingalls, wife of Bradford Wright, died September 23, 1878 at age 56 years 9 months and 17 days Buried at Riverside Cemetery in Coxsackie is a Harriett Wright, wife of Bradford Wright who died July 18, 1895 (nee Mygatt) She was 72 years of age. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Smith-Hunter" <fineart@sover.net> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 3:26 PM Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] Greene, Wright, Hallenbeck > I am seeking information about the following folks who are my ancestors > on Mother's side. This is the information I have found from census > reports. > > Eli Wright b.1832 New York > Eliza Wright b.1836 > d. Avesta b.1853? or 12/1849? > s. Bradford b.1858 > _______________________________________________ > Avesta Wright Greene b.?12/31/1854 > RICHARD(?) Greene__ b.__10/1847? New York > s.Herbert Wright Greene > s. Omar Vivien__( this son was a business man or salesman, as > he vanished while on a trip to Salt Lake City. I don't know if his first > name was Omar or Vivien.) > I have a Civil War diary (partial) which has no name inside, but seems to > indicate that perhaps this Richard? Greene enlisted from NY and served > with the 156th Regiment Infantry, mustered in November 1862 and left for > Louisiana. I have more information about this soldier gleaned from the > diary is anyone is seeking him. fineart@sover.net > > > > > Susan Smith-Hunter > Smith-Hunter Gallery > 4234 Rte 7 > Ethan Allen Highway > Ferrisburgh, Vt. 05456-9778 > Email: fineart@sover.net > > > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Moving in and Moving on - Greene County's Migrations Database - add your > families now and make the connection! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

I do not know if you are aware of it, but if you have access to ancestry you can do a search by first name. I have done this by getting the year and county that I want to search first and then key in the first name. Obviously if you have a common first name to check for, you can then break the search down into townships. It is not the fastest way but it has also been successful for me. In Wisconsin, where I live, there are many Endres names that are even indexed as Andrews, mainly due to the numerous languages being spoken here. A German speaking person doing the census may be talking to a Norwegian. Good luck. Sandie PS - In Madison, Dane Co., WI there is a Van Duesen Street on the southwest side of the city. Books or pamphlets at the state library in Madison, Wisconsin Abraham Van Deusen and many of his descendants with biographical notes, 1635 to 1901 by Charles B. Benson, 1901 Concerning some of the Corbin's, which has reference to the Van Deusen family by Harold Harlow Corbin 1952 Founder-family of New Netherlands and their ancestry in Holland by Captain Albert Harrison Van Deusen 1913 Genealogy of Reverend W.H.. Van Duesen (son of Jacob Dean Van Deusen and Julia Maria Custer McIntosh Van Deusen) by Cherry Pratt and Laura Van Deusen 1969 History and genealogy of the Van Deusens of Van Deusen Manor, Great Barrington, Berkshire County, Massachusetts by Louis Hasbrouck Sahler 1890 Van Deursen family by Captain Albert Harrison Van Deusen 1912

Sheila, as Margaret died in 1888, there is a good chance that a death certificate was made out for her. You should be able to find that at the Town Clerk's office for the area she was living in, or In Albany at the State offices. Sylvia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sheila" <smd@surferz.net> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 2:37 PM Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Dusen > Do any Van Dusen researchers have information to share on a Margaret Van > Dusen who married Simeon Miller and are buried in the Huntersfield > cemetery? Margaret born in Greene County 1810, d 1888, parents unknown. > They were known in the Ashland census and resided with son Lee. > Thanks, > Sheila > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <NYGREENE-D-request@rootsweb.com> > To: <NYGREENE-D@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 7:32 PM > Subject: NYGREENE-D Digest V05 #162 > > > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Over 200 Greene County cemeteries fully transcribed - look up your > ancestor! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

Do any Van Dusen researchers have information to share on a Margaret Van Dusen who married Simeon Miller and are buried in the Huntersfield cemetery? Margaret born in Greene County 1810, d 1888, parents unknown. They were known in the Ashland census and resided with son Lee. Thanks, Sheila ----- Original Message ----- From: <NYGREENE-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <NYGREENE-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 7:32 PM Subject: NYGREENE-D Digest V05 #162

Opps, sorry, where was the message????????? NYGREENE-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: NYGREENE-D Digest Volume 05 : Issue 160 Today's Topics: #1 Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Duesen & D ["peigi mulligan" #2 Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Greene, Wright ["Barbara" ] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from NYGREENE-D, send a message to NYGREENE-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. To contact the list administrator, send mail to NYGREENE-admin@rootsweb.com. ______________________________Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 15:46:49 -0400 From: "peigi mulligan" <pmulligan@hvc.rr.com> To: NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Duesen & Delamater If I only had a brain..... Also, on ancestry.com, I've also found if I do a search just on Census, All Years, I get a better response than if I search on the main search. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grstmll@yahoo.com" To: Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Duesen & Delamater > Hi Peigi, > Will try your suggestion this weekend and let you know if it brings up more information. > The first VanDeusen to come to this country(circa 1623) was a miller, my husband's great grandfather was a miller and the house we live in was the home of the owner of a gristmill just across our dirt road. When I first started to create a screen name and everything else I wanted was taken, I looked out the window and it was "born". Of course someone had the name fully spelled out, but out of desperation of I took what I could get. > > peigi mulligan wrote: > Linda, > Let me know how it works. > Are you with Grist Mill? > Peigi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Grstmll@yahoo.com" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 6:51 PM > Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Duesen & Delamater > > > > Hi, > > Thought you had to have 5 letters ahead of the asterick to do this type > of search. I have used the ? a couple of letters before the asterick.Will > definitely try this and see what happens... > > Thanks! > > Linda > > > > peigi mulligan > wrote: > > when using ancestry.com census records, instead of soundex, another method > > for finding sur or forenames is to put in the first 3 letters with an > > asterick, ie: > > john smith > > joh* > > smi* > > john smi* > > joh* smi* > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 2:32 PM > > Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Duesen & Delamater > > > > > > > Hi Linda, > > > > > > It's not some much the family changing the spelling of their name, it is > > usually spelled the way the census enumerator hears it. Most of the people > > did not know how to write or spell. And I have found especially with the > > indices on Ancestry.com that the people who did the indices are not > familiar > > with the Dutch surnames of the area. What I usually do to find them is do > a > > forename search, as most people (then and now) know how to spell Cornelius > > or Claude. I put in the forename, state, county and town. And alot of the > > time, if a family was not home, the cenus taker just asked a neighbor and > > any one that was around and they might not know the correct information. > > > > > > > > > In the 1820 census Claverack, Columbia, NY, Roll M33-70, page 66: > > > Cornelius Van Deusen > > > 3 males to 10 > > > 2 males 10 to 16 > > > 2 males 16 to 26 > > > 1 male 45 and up > > > 1 female 10 to 16 > > > 1 female 26 to 45 > > > 1 female 45 and up > > > 5 in agriculture > > > > > > In the 1830 census also Claverack, Roll86, page 79 > > > 2 male 5 to 10 > > > 1 male 15 to 20 > > > 1 male 20 to 30 > > > 1 male to to 60 > > > 1 female 15 to 20 > > > 1 female 50 to 60 > > > > > > Also in the Dutch Reformed Church of Claverack: > > > Baptism Date: 29 Nov 1834 > > > Father: Claudius C. Van Deusen > > > Mother: Lydia Ann Mc Clean > > > Item #: 6434 > > > Child: Julia Angline > > > Sponsor: Claudius C. Van Deusen; Lydia Ann Mc Clean > > > Birth Date: 29 Oct 1834 > > > Baptism Record of Reformed Church: Claverack, (Columbia County) Reformed > > Church 1727-1899 > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------ > > > Baptism Date: 01 Sep 1839 > > > Father: Claudius Van Deusen > > > Mother: Lydia Ann Mc Clean > > > Item #: 6579 > > > Child: Jurial > > > Sponsor: Claudius Van Deusen; Lydia Ann Mc Clean > > > Birth Date: 21 Aug 1838 > > > Baptism Record of Reformed Church: Claverack, (Columbia County) Reformed > > Church > > > > > > Is this the Claude you are looking for? > > > > > > Hope this helps, > > > Susan > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > > > > > > Hello Susan, > > > > Thank you so much for the information, that is the family I am looking > > for. > > > > > > > > My problem is attempting to locate Cornelius and his son Claude from > the > > > > time period of 1820 to 1840.With what you have told me, their strange > > penchant > > > > for changing their name had been going on for awhile. There are three > > strange > > > > possiblities that bring this about, they were actaully not giving the > > correct > > > > name, someone had a speech impediment, they got the worst of the > > > > enumerators.Though I did notice in the 1855 or 65 Kinderhook census, > the > > > > enumerator was upset beause he was meeting with a great deal of > > resisitance to > > > > his questions and either getting no information or incomplete answers. > > > > > > > > Will check out the name VanDrum, the name VanDensen was also a name I > > found > > > > them as, on the 1850 census in Chatham . > > > > > > > > So I will go back and redo the census records under alot of other > names > > I > > > > hadn't thought of. > > > > I do so appreciate all that you are doing with your site, it is great! > > If you > > > > ever need help transcribing please let me know. Another question, if I > > get back > > > > down the the state library, is there something you are interested in > > from there? > > > > > > > > Thanks again, you mayhave solved a long standing mystery. > > > > > > > > Linda > > > > > > > > > > > > smulvey wrote: > > > > Hi Linda, > > > > Not sure if this is the family your are looking for but I thought I > > would > > > > send in anyway as the names are the same. > > > > > > > > From the book: "Marriage Record of Reformed Church, Claverack, New > York > > > > 1717-1899" transcribed by Arthur C.M. Kelly, Kinship, Rhinebeck, NY > > 1970. > > > > Page 24, No. 828: > > > > 4.3.1797: Cornelius van Deusen married Linje De La Matter > > > > > > > > From the book: "Baptism Record of Reformed Church Claverack, (Columbia > > > > County) New York" 1717-1899 transcribed by Arthur C.M. Kelly, Kinship, > > > > Rhinebeck, NY 1970. > > > > Page 147, No. 3216 > > > > 7.7.1799, Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. Matteus > > Abraham > > > > born 6.18, sponsors: Tobias van Deusen and Cornelis van Deusen. > > > > > > > > Page 157, No. 3429: > > > > 12.7.1800, Cornelius van Deusen and Linje de La Matter bpt. Robert > born > > > > 11.9, sponsors; Robert de La Matter and Magdalena De La Matter. > > > > > > > > Page 170, No. 3714: > > > > 7.11.1802, Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. Cloudy > born > > 6.4, > > > > sponsors Cloudius de La Matter and Lena Mandevill. > > > > > > > > Page 178, No. 3897: > > > > 11.13/1803, Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. Robert > born > > > > 10.7, sponsors; Robert van Deusen and Christina Decker. > > > > > > > > Page 191, No. 4179: > > > > 10.20.1805, Cornelius van Deusen and Cathlina De La Matter bpt. > Cornelia > > > > born 9.23, sponsors Abraham van Deusen and Arianje van Deusen. > > > > > > > > Page 202, No. 4404: > > > > 5.16.1807: Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. Maria born > > 2.8, > > > > sponsors; parents. > > > > > > > > Page 208, No. 4538: > > > > 4.18.1808: Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. Cornelius > > born > > > > 2.6, sponsors; parents. > > > > > > > > Page 224, No. 4895: > > > > 1.25.1811: Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. James > > Jeremiah > > > > born 10.16.1810, sponsors; James de La Matter and Gitty Osterhout. > > > > > > > > Page 276, No. 6040: > > > > 7.16.1820: Cornelius van Deusen and Lynje De La Matter bpt. Gilbert > born > > > > 5.22, sponsors; parents. > > > > > > > > Page 278, No. 6094: > > > > 12.11.1821: Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De Lamatter bpt. John G. > > Gebhard > > > > born 9.29, sponsors; parents. > > > > > > > > Cornelius is in the 1820 Census Claverack, Columbia County (Ancestry > > Image > > > > No. 10 under the surname of van durm??). He is in the 1830 also in > > > > Claverack (Ancestry Image No. 7 under the spelling of van Densen). > > > > > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > Susan > > > > ************************************************* > > > > "If you can't get rid of the family skeleton, you may as well make it > > > > dance." > > > > -- George Bernard Shaw > > > > Columbia County, NY Coordinator > > > > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/columbia/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >A Cornelius Vanhoesen appears in the 1820 census for Cairo and also > in > > > > >Lexington in Greene Co. There is also a Cornelius J. Vanhoesen in > > Hudson, > > > > >Columbia Co. in 1820. I realize this spelling is not correct but that > > is > > > > >the closest it came to VanDeusen when I did a search by first name > > only. > > > > > In 1830 there is a Cornelius Vanhoosen in Windham and a Cornelius I. > > Van > > > > > Deusen in Stuyvesant, Columbia Co. > > > > > For 1840. Cornelius Vandeusen at Berne in Albany Co., Cornelius > > Vandusen > > > > > in Palatine, Montgomery Co. (actually two there); Cornelius Vandusen > > at > > > > > Nassau, Rensselaeer Co., Cornelius C. Vandusen at Claverack, > Columbia > > Co., > > > > > Cornelius Vanduser at New York City, Ward 13 > > > > > 1850 > > > > > Cornelius Van Deusen in Claverack, Columbia Co. born about 1841, > same > > > > > spelling at Mohawk, Montgomery Co. born about 1800 and Cornelius C. > at > > > > > Claverack, Columbia Co. born about 1809. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Grstmll@yahoo.com" > > > > > To: > > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 7:58 AM > > > > > Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Vedder research > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Good Morning, > > > > >> So glad that you had a great trip to Europe and are back with > renewed > > > > >> "vigor" You site is priceless. > > > > >> In reference to your offer to do research, I was wondering if you > > might > > > > >> be able to help me establish the location of my 5th great > grandfather > > in > > > > >> Greene County. > > > > >> In 1813 Lynje DeLaMater wife of Cornelius VanDeusen inherited from > > her > > > > >> father Claude property in Coxsackie, right next to her brother > > Robert. I > > > > >> do have Cornelius in that area in 1810, but seem to lose them > between > > the > > > > >> Will date and 1850! > > > > >> They were apparently married in Columbia County, but believe their > > > > >> principle residence was Coxsackie as they had atleast two children > > > > >> baptized there. > > > > >> Not sure what records are available there, but would appreciate if > > you > > > > >> could use your knowledge as to where to look. > > > > >> > > > > >> Thank you for your time, and please let me know if you would like > the > > fee > > > > >> prior to your visit to the library. I can send you a check right > > away.. > > > > >> > > > > >> Thanks again, > > > > >> Linda VanDeusen-Kintzing > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Sylvia Hasenkopf wrote: > > > > >> Hello everyone. Back from vacation in Europe - had a great time! > And > > > > >> ready to get back into posting material to the list and > transcribing > > > > >> cemeteries. > > > > >> > > > > >> I''ll be heading to the Vedder Library to do some research the > first > > > > >> Thursday evening and the first Saturday morning in August. > > > > >> > > > > >> As most of you know, I can do look ups for a modest fee. Family > > files, > > > > >> probate records, newspaper records etc. > > > > >> > > > > >> If anyone is interested, let me know. 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Try the search both ways. Sometimes one way will be better than the other. It is not necessarily the same for every type search. Bobbi On Fri, 5 Aug 2005 15:46:49 -0400 "peigi mulligan" <pmulligan@hvc.rr.com> writes: > If I only had a brain..... > > Also, on ancestry.com, I've also found if I do a search just on > Census, All > Years, I get a better response than if I search on the main > search. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Grstmll@yahoo.com" <grstmll@yahoo.com> > To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 12:43 PM > Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Duesen & Delamater > > > > Hi Peigi, > > Will try your suggestion this weekend and let you know if it > brings up > more information. > > The first VanDeusen to come to this country(circa 1623) was a > miller, > my husband's great grandfather was a miller and the house we live > in was > the home of the owner of a gristmill just across our dirt road. When > I first > started to create a screen name and everything else I wanted was > taken, I > looked out the window and it was "born". Of course someone had the > name > fully spelled out, but out of desperation of I took what I could > get. > > > > peigi mulligan <pmulligan@hvc.rr.com> wrote: > > Linda, > > Let me know how it works. > > Are you with Grist Mill? > > Peigi > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Grstmll@yahoo.com" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 6:51 PM > > Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Duesen & Delamater > > > > > > > Hi, > > > Thought you had to have 5 letters ahead of the asterick to do > this type > > of search. I have used the ? a couple of letters before the > asterick.Will > > definitely try this and see what happens... > > > Thanks! > > > Linda > > > > > > peigi mulligan > > wrote: > > > when using ancestry.com census records, instead of soundex, > another > method > > > for finding sur or forenames is to put in the first 3 letters > with an > > > asterick, ie: > > > john smith > > > joh* > > > smi* > > > john smi* > > > joh* smi* > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: > > > To: > > > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 2:32 PM > > > Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Duesen & Delamater > > > > > > > > > > Hi Linda, > > > > > > > > It's not some much the family changing the spelling of their > name, it > is > > > usually spelled the way the census enumerator hears it. Most of > the > people > > > did not know how to write or spell. And I have found especially > with the > > > indices on Ancestry.com that the people who did the indices are > not > > familiar > > > with the Dutch surnames of the area. What I usually do to find > them is > do > > a > > > forename search, as most people (then and now) know how to > spell > Cornelius > > > or Claude. I put in the forename, state, county and town. And > alot of > the > > > time, if a family was not home, the cenus taker just asked a > neighbor > and > > > any one that was around and they might not know the correct > information. > > > > > > > > > > > > In the 1820 census Claverack, Columbia, NY, Roll M33-70, page > 66: > > > > Cornelius Van Deusen > > > > 3 males to 10 > > > > 2 males 10 to 16 > > > > 2 males 16 to 26 > > > > 1 male 45 and up > > > > 1 female 10 to 16 > > > > 1 female 26 to 45 > > > > 1 female 45 and up > > > > 5 in agriculture > > > > > > > > In the 1830 census also Claverack, Roll86, page 79 > > > > 2 male 5 to 10 > > > > 1 male 15 to 20 > > > > 1 male 20 to 30 > > > > 1 male to to 60 > > > > 1 female 15 to 20 > > > > 1 female 50 to 60 > > > > > > > > Also in the Dutch Reformed Church of Claverack: > > > > Baptism Date: 29 Nov 1834 > > > > Father: Claudius C. Van Deusen > > > > Mother: Lydia Ann Mc Clean > > > > Item #: 6434 > > > > Child: Julia Angline > > > > Sponsor: Claudius C. Van Deusen; Lydia Ann Mc Clean > > > > Birth Date: 29 Oct 1834 > > > > Baptism Record of Reformed Church: Claverack, (Columbia > County) > Reformed > > > Church 1727-1899 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > > > ------ > > > > Baptism Date: 01 Sep 1839 > > > > Father: Claudius Van Deusen > > > > Mother: Lydia Ann Mc Clean > > > > Item #: 6579 > > > > Child: Jurial > > > > Sponsor: Claudius Van Deusen; Lydia Ann Mc Clean > > > > Birth Date: 21 Aug 1838 > > > > Baptism Record of Reformed Church: Claverack, (Columbia > County) > Reformed > > > Church > > > > > > > > Is this the Claude you are looking for? > > > > > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > Susan > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > > > > > > > > Hello Susan, > > > > > Thank you so much for the information, that is the family I > am > looking > > > for. > > > > > > > > > > My problem is attempting to locate Cornelius and his son > Claude from > > the > > > > > time period of 1820 to 1840.With what you have told me, > their > strange > > > penchant > > > > > for changing their name had been going on for awhile. There > are > three > > > strange > > > > > possiblities that bring this about, they were actaully not > giving > the > > > correct > > > > > name, someone had a speech impediment, they got the worst of > the > > > > > enumerators.Though I did notice in the 1855 or 65 Kinderhook > census, > > the > > > > > enumerator was upset beause he was meeting with a great deal > of > > > resisitance to > > > > > his questions and either getting no information or > incomplete > answers. > > > > > > > > > > Will check out the name VanDrum, the name VanDensen was also > a name > I > > > found > > > > > them as, on the 1850 census in Chatham . > > > > > > > > > > So I will go back and redo the census records under alot of > other > > names > > > I > > > > > hadn't thought of. > > > > > I do so appreciate all that you are doing with your site, it > is > great! > > > If you > > > > > ever need help transcribing please let me know. Another > question, if > I > > > get back > > > > > down the the state library, is there something you are > interested in > > > from there? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again, you mayhave solved a long standing mystery. > > > > > > > > > > Linda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > smulvey wrote: > > > > > Hi Linda, > > > > > Not sure if this is the family your are looking for but I > thought I > > > would > > > > > send in anyway as the names are the same. > > > > > > > > > > From the book: "Marriage Record of Reformed Church, > Claverack, New > > York > > > > > 1717-1899" transcribed by Arthur C.M. Kelly, Kinship, > Rhinebeck, NY > > > 1970. > > > > > Page 24, No. 828: > > > > > 4.3.1797: Cornelius van Deusen married Linje De La Matter > > > > > > > > > > From the book: "Baptism Record of Reformed Church > Claverack, > (Columbia > > > > > County) New York" 1717-1899 transcribed by Arthur C.M. > Kelly, > Kinship, > > > > > Rhinebeck, NY 1970. > > > > > Page 147, No. 3216 > > > > > 7.7.1799, Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. > Matteus > > > Abraham > > > > > born 6.18, sponsors: Tobias van Deusen and Cornelis van > Deusen. > > > > > > > > > > Page 157, No. 3429: > > > > > 12.7.1800, Cornelius van Deusen and Linje de La Matter bpt. > Robert > > born > > > > > 11.9, sponsors; Robert de La Matter and Magdalena De La > Matter. > > > > > > > > > > Page 170, No. 3714: > > > > > 7.11.1802, Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. > Cloudy > > born > > > 6.4, > > > > > sponsors Cloudius de La Matter and Lena Mandevill. > > > > > > > > > > Page 178, No. 3897: > > > > > 11.13/1803, Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. > Robert > > born > > > > > 10.7, sponsors; Robert van Deusen and Christina Decker. > > > > > > > > > > Page 191, No. 4179: > > > > > 10.20.1805, Cornelius van Deusen and Cathlina De La Matter > bpt. > > Cornelia > > > > > born 9.23, sponsors Abraham van Deusen and Arianje van > Deusen. > > > > > > > > > > Page 202, No. 4404: > > > > > 5.16.1807: Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. > Maria > born > > > 2.8, > > > > > sponsors; parents. > > > > > > > > > > Page 208, No. 4538: > > > > > 4.18.1808: Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. > Cornelius > > > born > > > > > 2.6, sponsors; parents. > > > > > > > > > > Page 224, No. 4895: > > > > > 1.25.1811: Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. > James > > > Jeremiah > > > > > born 10.16.1810, sponsors; James de La Matter and Gitty > Osterhout. > > > > > > > > > > Page 276, No. 6040: > > > > > 7.16.1820: Cornelius van Deusen and Lynje De La Matter bpt. > Gilbert > > born > > > > > 5.22, sponsors; parents. > > > > > > > > > > Page 278, No. 6094: > > > > > 12.11.1821: Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De Lamatter bpt. > John G. > > > Gebhard > > > > > born 9.29, sponsors; parents. > > > > > > > > > > Cornelius is in the 1820 Census Claverack, Columbia County > (Ancestry > > > Image > > > > > No. 10 under the surname of van durm??). He is in the 1830 > also in > > > > > Claverack (Ancestry Image No. 7 under the spelling of van > Densen). > > > > > > > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > > Susan > > > > > ************************************************* > > > > > "If you can't get rid of the family skeleton, you may as > well make > it > > > > > dance." > > > > > -- George Bernard Shaw > > > > > Columbia County, NY Coordinator > > > > > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/columbia/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >A Cornelius Vanhoesen appears in the 1820 census for Cairo > and also > > in > > > > > >Lexington in Greene Co. There is also a Cornelius J. > Vanhoesen in > > > Hudson, > > > > > >Columbia Co. in 1820. I realize this spelling is not > correct but > that > > > is > > > > > >the closest it came to VanDeusen when I did a search by > first name > > > only. > > > > > > In 1830 there is a Cornelius Vanhoosen in Windham and a > Cornelius > I. > > > Van > > > > > > Deusen in Stuyvesant, Columbia Co. > > > > > > For 1840. Cornelius Vandeusen at Berne in Albany Co., > Cornelius > > > Vandusen > > > > > > in Palatine, Montgomery Co. (actually two there); > Cornelius > Vandusen > > > at > > > > > > Nassau, Rensselaeer Co., Cornelius C. Vandusen at > Claverack, > > Columbia > > > Co., > > > > > > Cornelius Vanduser at New York City, Ward 13 > > > > > > 1850 > > > > > > Cornelius Van Deusen in Claverack, Columbia Co. born about > 1841, > > same > > > > > > spelling at Mohawk, Montgomery Co. born about 1800 and > Cornelius > C. > > at > > > > > > Claverack, Columbia Co. born about 1809. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Grstmll@yahoo.com" > > > > > > To: > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 7:58 AM > > > > > > Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Vedder research > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Good Morning, > > > > > >> So glad that you had a great trip to Europe and are back > with > > renewed > > > > > >> "vigor" You site is priceless. > > > > > >> In reference to your offer to do research, I was > wondering if you > > > might > > > > > >> be able to help me establish the location of my 5th > great > > grandfather > > > in > > > > > >> Greene County. > > > > > >> In 1813 Lynje DeLaMater wife of Cornelius VanDeusen > inherited > from > > > her > > > > > >> father Claude property in Coxsackie, right next to her > brother > > > Robert. I > > > > > >> do have Cornelius in that area in 1810, but seem to lose > them > > between > > > the > > > > > >> Will date and 1850! > > > > > >> They were apparently married in Columbia County, but > believe > their > > > > > >> principle residence was Coxsackie as they had atleast > two > children > > > > > >> baptized there. > > > > > >> Not sure what records are available there, but would > appreciate > if > > > you > > > > > >> could use your knowledge as to where to look. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Thank you for your time, and please let me know if you > would like > > the > > > fee > > > > > >> prior to your visit to the library. I can send you a > check right > > > away.. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Thanks again, > > > > > >> Linda VanDeusen-Kintzing > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Sylvia Hasenkopf wrote: > > > > > >> Hello everyone. Back from vacation in Europe - had a > great time! > > And > > > > > >> ready to get back into posting material to the list and > > transcribing > > > > > >> cemeteries. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I''ll be heading to the Vedder Library to do some > research the > > first > > > > > >> Thursday evening and the first Saturday morning in > August. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> As most of you know, I can do look ups for a modest fee. > Family > > > files, > > > > > >> probate records, newspaper records etc. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> If anyone is interested, let me know. Many may be > wondering - I > use > > > these > > > > > >> fees to acquire new material for the site. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Hope everyone is having a wonderful summer! > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Sylvia > > > > > >> > > > > > >>

If I only had a brain..... Also, on ancestry.com, I've also found if I do a search just on Census, All Years, I get a better response than if I search on the main search. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grstmll@yahoo.com" <grstmll@yahoo.com> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Duesen & Delamater > Hi Peigi, > Will try your suggestion this weekend and let you know if it brings up more information. > The first VanDeusen to come to this country(circa 1623) was a miller, my husband's great grandfather was a miller and the house we live in was the home of the owner of a gristmill just across our dirt road. When I first started to create a screen name and everything else I wanted was taken, I looked out the window and it was "born". Of course someone had the name fully spelled out, but out of desperation of I took what I could get. > > peigi mulligan <pmulligan@hvc.rr.com> wrote: > Linda, > Let me know how it works. > Are you with Grist Mill? > Peigi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Grstmll@yahoo.com" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 6:51 PM > Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Duesen & Delamater > > > > Hi, > > Thought you had to have 5 letters ahead of the asterick to do this type > of search. I have used the ? a couple of letters before the asterick.Will > definitely try this and see what happens... > > Thanks! > > Linda > > > > peigi mulligan > wrote: > > when using ancestry.com census records, instead of soundex, another method > > for finding sur or forenames is to put in the first 3 letters with an > > asterick, ie: > > john smith > > joh* > > smi* > > john smi* > > joh* smi* > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 2:32 PM > > Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Duesen & Delamater > > > > > > > Hi Linda, > > > > > > It's not some much the family changing the spelling of their name, it is > > usually spelled the way the census enumerator hears it. Most of the people > > did not know how to write or spell. And I have found especially with the > > indices on Ancestry.com that the people who did the indices are not > familiar > > with the Dutch surnames of the area. What I usually do to find them is do > a > > forename search, as most people (then and now) know how to spell Cornelius > > or Claude. I put in the forename, state, county and town. And alot of the > > time, if a family was not home, the cenus taker just asked a neighbor and > > any one that was around and they might not know the correct information. > > > > > > > > > In the 1820 census Claverack, Columbia, NY, Roll M33-70, page 66: > > > Cornelius Van Deusen > > > 3 males to 10 > > > 2 males 10 to 16 > > > 2 males 16 to 26 > > > 1 male 45 and up > > > 1 female 10 to 16 > > > 1 female 26 to 45 > > > 1 female 45 and up > > > 5 in agriculture > > > > > > In the 1830 census also Claverack, Roll86, page 79 > > > 2 male 5 to 10 > > > 1 male 15 to 20 > > > 1 male 20 to 30 > > > 1 male to to 60 > > > 1 female 15 to 20 > > > 1 female 50 to 60 > > > > > > Also in the Dutch Reformed Church of Claverack: > > > Baptism Date: 29 Nov 1834 > > > Father: Claudius C. Van Deusen > > > Mother: Lydia Ann Mc Clean > > > Item #: 6434 > > > Child: Julia Angline > > > Sponsor: Claudius C. Van Deusen; Lydia Ann Mc Clean > > > Birth Date: 29 Oct 1834 > > > Baptism Record of Reformed Church: Claverack, (Columbia County) Reformed > > Church 1727-1899 > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------ > > > Baptism Date: 01 Sep 1839 > > > Father: Claudius Van Deusen > > > Mother: Lydia Ann Mc Clean > > > Item #: 6579 > > > Child: Jurial > > > Sponsor: Claudius Van Deusen; Lydia Ann Mc Clean > > > Birth Date: 21 Aug 1838 > > > Baptism Record of Reformed Church: Claverack, (Columbia County) Reformed > > Church > > > > > > Is this the Claude you are looking for? > > > > > > Hope this helps, > > > Susan > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > > > > > > Hello Susan, > > > > Thank you so much for the information, that is the family I am looking > > for. > > > > > > > > My problem is attempting to locate Cornelius and his son Claude from > the > > > > time period of 1820 to 1840.With what you have told me, their strange > > penchant > > > > for changing their name had been going on for awhile. There are three > > strange > > > > possiblities that bring this about, they were actaully not giving the > > correct > > > > name, someone had a speech impediment, they got the worst of the > > > > enumerators.Though I did notice in the 1855 or 65 Kinderhook census, > the > > > > enumerator was upset beause he was meeting with a great deal of > > resisitance to > > > > his questions and either getting no information or incomplete answers. > > > > > > > > Will check out the name VanDrum, the name VanDensen was also a name I > > found > > > > them as, on the 1850 census in Chatham . > > > > > > > > So I will go back and redo the census records under alot of other > names > > I > > > > hadn't thought of. > > > > I do so appreciate all that you are doing with your site, it is great! > > If you > > > > ever need help transcribing please let me know. Another question, if I > > get back > > > > down the the state library, is there something you are interested in > > from there? > > > > > > > > Thanks again, you mayhave solved a long standing mystery. > > > > > > > > Linda > > > > > > > > > > > > smulvey wrote: > > > > Hi Linda, > > > > Not sure if this is the family your are looking for but I thought I > > would > > > > send in anyway as the names are the same. > > > > > > > > From the book: "Marriage Record of Reformed Church, Claverack, New > York > > > > 1717-1899" transcribed by Arthur C.M. Kelly, Kinship, Rhinebeck, NY > > 1970. > > > > Page 24, No. 828: > > > > 4.3.1797: Cornelius van Deusen married Linje De La Matter > > > > > > > > From the book: "Baptism Record of Reformed Church Claverack, (Columbia > > > > County) New York" 1717-1899 transcribed by Arthur C.M. Kelly, Kinship, > > > > Rhinebeck, NY 1970. > > > > Page 147, No. 3216 > > > > 7.7.1799, Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. Matteus > > Abraham > > > > born 6.18, sponsors: Tobias van Deusen and Cornelis van Deusen. > > > > > > > > Page 157, No. 3429: > > > > 12.7.1800, Cornelius van Deusen and Linje de La Matter bpt. Robert > born > > > > 11.9, sponsors; Robert de La Matter and Magdalena De La Matter. > > > > > > > > Page 170, No. 3714: > > > > 7.11.1802, Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. Cloudy > born > > 6.4, > > > > sponsors Cloudius de La Matter and Lena Mandevill. > > > > > > > > Page 178, No. 3897: > > > > 11.13/1803, Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. Robert > born > > > > 10.7, sponsors; Robert van Deusen and Christina Decker. > > > > > > > > Page 191, No. 4179: > > > > 10.20.1805, Cornelius van Deusen and Cathlina De La Matter bpt. > Cornelia > > > > born 9.23, sponsors Abraham van Deusen and Arianje van Deusen. > > > > > > > > Page 202, No. 4404: > > > > 5.16.1807: Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. Maria born > > 2.8, > > > > sponsors; parents. > > > > > > > > Page 208, No. 4538: > > > > 4.18.1808: Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. Cornelius > > born > > > > 2.6, sponsors; parents. > > > > > > > > Page 224, No. 4895: > > > > 1.25.1811: Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. James > > Jeremiah > > > > born 10.16.1810, sponsors; James de La Matter and Gitty Osterhout. > > > > > > > > Page 276, No. 6040: > > > > 7.16.1820: Cornelius van Deusen and Lynje De La Matter bpt. Gilbert > born > > > > 5.22, sponsors; parents. > > > > > > > > Page 278, No. 6094: > > > > 12.11.1821: Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De Lamatter bpt. John G. > > Gebhard > > > > born 9.29, sponsors; parents. > > > > > > > > Cornelius is in the 1820 Census Claverack, Columbia County (Ancestry > > Image > > > > No. 10 under the surname of van durm??). He is in the 1830 also in > > > > Claverack (Ancestry Image No. 7 under the spelling of van Densen). > > > > > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > Susan > > > > ************************************************* > > > > "If you can't get rid of the family skeleton, you may as well make it > > > > dance." > > > > -- George Bernard Shaw > > > > Columbia County, NY Coordinator > > > > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/columbia/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >A Cornelius Vanhoesen appears in the 1820 census for Cairo and also > in > > > > >Lexington in Greene Co. There is also a Cornelius J. Vanhoesen in > > Hudson, > > > > >Columbia Co. in 1820. I realize this spelling is not correct but that > > is > > > > >the closest it came to VanDeusen when I did a search by first name > > only. > > > > > In 1830 there is a Cornelius Vanhoosen in Windham and a Cornelius I. > > Van > > > > > Deusen in Stuyvesant, Columbia Co. > > > > > For 1840. Cornelius Vandeusen at Berne in Albany Co., Cornelius > > Vandusen > > > > > in Palatine, Montgomery Co. (actually two there); Cornelius Vandusen > > at > > > > > Nassau, Rensselaeer Co., Cornelius C. Vandusen at Claverack, > Columbia > > Co., > > > > > Cornelius Vanduser at New York City, Ward 13 > > > > > 1850 > > > > > Cornelius Van Deusen in Claverack, Columbia Co. born about 1841, > same > > > > > spelling at Mohawk, Montgomery Co. born about 1800 and Cornelius C. > at > > > > > Claverack, Columbia Co. born about 1809. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Grstmll@yahoo.com" > > > > > To: > > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 7:58 AM > > > > > Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Vedder research > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Good Morning, > > > > >> So glad that you had a great trip to Europe and are back with > renewed > > > > >> "vigor" You site is priceless. > > > > >> In reference to your offer to do research, I was wondering if you > > might > > > > >> be able to help me establish the location of my 5th great > grandfather > > in > > > > >> Greene County. > > > > >> In 1813 Lynje DeLaMater wife of Cornelius VanDeusen inherited from > > her > > > > >> father Claude property in Coxsackie, right next to her brother > > Robert. I > > > > >> do have Cornelius in that area in 1810, but seem to lose them > between > > the > > > > >> Will date and 1850! > > > > >> They were apparently married in Columbia County, but believe their > > > > >> principle residence was Coxsackie as they had atleast two children > > > > >> baptized there. > > > > >> Not sure what records are available there, but would appreciate if > > you > > > > >> could use your knowledge as to where to look. > > > > >> > > > > >> Thank you for your time, and please let me know if you would like > the > > fee > > > > >> prior to your visit to the library. I can send you a check right > > away.. > > > > >> > > > > >> Thanks again, > > > > >> Linda VanDeusen-Kintzing > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Sylvia Hasenkopf wrote: > > > > >> Hello everyone. 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Linda, Another thing to try.......I've sometimes got 'stuck' with McCormick, so try VanDeusen & Van Deusen. In other words, separate the Van from the Duesen. Sometimes prefix surnames show up either way. Peigi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grstmll@yahoo.com" <grstmll@yahoo.com> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Duesen & Delamater > Hi Peigi, > Will try your suggestion this weekend and let you know if it brings up more information. > The first VanDeusen to come to this country(circa 1623) was a miller, my husband's great grandfather was a miller and the house we live in was the home of the owner of a gristmill just across our dirt road. When I first started to create a screen name and everything else I wanted was taken, I looked out the window and it was "born". Of course someone had the name fully spelled out, but out of desperation of I took what I could get. > > peigi mulligan <pmulligan@hvc.rr.com> wrote: > Linda, > Let me know how it works. > Are you with Grist Mill? > Peigi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Grstmll@yahoo.com" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 6:51 PM > Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Duesen & Delamater > > > > Hi, > > Thought you had to have 5 letters ahead of the asterick to do this type > of search. I have used the ? a couple of letters before the asterick.Will > definitely try this and see what happens... > > Thanks! > > Linda > > > > peigi mulligan > wrote: > > when using ancestry.com census records, instead of soundex, another method > > for finding sur or forenames is to put in the first 3 letters with an > > asterick, ie: > > john smith > > joh* > > smi* > > john smi* > > joh* smi* > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 2:32 PM > > Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Duesen & Delamater > > > > > > > Hi Linda, > > > > > > It's not some much the family changing the spelling of their name, it is > > usually spelled the way the census enumerator hears it. Most of the people > > did not know how to write or spell. And I have found especially with the > > indices on Ancestry.com that the people who did the indices are not > familiar > > with the Dutch surnames of the area. What I usually do to find them is do > a > > forename search, as most people (then and now) know how to spell Cornelius > > or Claude. I put in the forename, state, county and town. And alot of the > > time, if a family was not home, the cenus taker just asked a neighbor and > > any one that was around and they might not know the correct information. > > > > > > > > > In the 1820 census Claverack, Columbia, NY, Roll M33-70, page 66: > > > Cornelius Van Deusen > > > 3 males to 10 > > > 2 males 10 to 16 > > > 2 males 16 to 26 > > > 1 male 45 and up > > > 1 female 10 to 16 > > > 1 female 26 to 45 > > > 1 female 45 and up > > > 5 in agriculture > > > > > > In the 1830 census also Claverack, Roll86, page 79 > > > 2 male 5 to 10 > > > 1 male 15 to 20 > > > 1 male 20 to 30 > > > 1 male to to 60 > > > 1 female 15 to 20 > > > 1 female 50 to 60 > > > > > > Also in the Dutch Reformed Church of Claverack: > > > Baptism Date: 29 Nov 1834 > > > Father: Claudius C. Van Deusen > > > Mother: Lydia Ann Mc Clean > > > Item #: 6434 > > > Child: Julia Angline > > > Sponsor: Claudius C. Van Deusen; Lydia Ann Mc Clean > > > Birth Date: 29 Oct 1834 > > > Baptism Record of Reformed Church: Claverack, (Columbia County) Reformed > > Church 1727-1899 > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------ > > > Baptism Date: 01 Sep 1839 > > > Father: Claudius Van Deusen > > > Mother: Lydia Ann Mc Clean > > > Item #: 6579 > > > Child: Jurial > > > Sponsor: Claudius Van Deusen; Lydia Ann Mc Clean > > > Birth Date: 21 Aug 1838 > > > Baptism Record of Reformed Church: Claverack, (Columbia County) Reformed > > Church > > > > > > Is this the Claude you are looking for? > > > > > > Hope this helps, > > > Susan > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > > > > > > Hello Susan, > > > > Thank you so much for the information, that is the family I am looking > > for. > > > > > > > > My problem is attempting to locate Cornelius and his son Claude from > the > > > > time period of 1820 to 1840.With what you have told me, their strange > > penchant > > > > for changing their name had been going on for awhile. There are three > > strange > > > > possiblities that bring this about, they were actaully not giving the > > correct > > > > name, someone had a speech impediment, they got the worst of the > > > > enumerators.Though I did notice in the 1855 or 65 Kinderhook census, > the > > > > enumerator was upset beause he was meeting with a great deal of > > resisitance to > > > > his questions and either getting no information or incomplete answers. > > > > > > > > Will check out the name VanDrum, the name VanDensen was also a name I > > found > > > > them as, on the 1850 census in Chatham . > > > > > > > > So I will go back and redo the census records under alot of other > names > > I > > > > hadn't thought of. > > > > I do so appreciate all that you are doing with your site, it is great! > > If you > > > > ever need help transcribing please let me know. Another question, if I > > get back > > > > down the the state library, is there something you are interested in > > from there? > > > > > > > > Thanks again, you mayhave solved a long standing mystery. > > > > > > > > Linda > > > > > > > > > > > > smulvey wrote: > > > > Hi Linda, > > > > Not sure if this is the family your are looking for but I thought I > > would > > > > send in anyway as the names are the same. > > > > > > > > From the book: "Marriage Record of Reformed Church, Claverack, New > York > > > > 1717-1899" transcribed by Arthur C.M. Kelly, Kinship, Rhinebeck, NY > > 1970. > > > > Page 24, No. 828: > > > > 4.3.1797: Cornelius van Deusen married Linje De La Matter > > > > > > > > From the book: "Baptism Record of Reformed Church Claverack, (Columbia > > > > County) New York" 1717-1899 transcribed by Arthur C.M. Kelly, Kinship, > > > > Rhinebeck, NY 1970. > > > > Page 147, No. 3216 > > > > 7.7.1799, Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. Matteus > > Abraham > > > > born 6.18, sponsors: Tobias van Deusen and Cornelis van Deusen. > > > > > > > > Page 157, No. 3429: > > > > 12.7.1800, Cornelius van Deusen and Linje de La Matter bpt. Robert > born > > > > 11.9, sponsors; Robert de La Matter and Magdalena De La Matter. > > > > > > > > Page 170, No. 3714: > > > > 7.11.1802, Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. Cloudy > born > > 6.4, > > > > sponsors Cloudius de La Matter and Lena Mandevill. > > > > > > > > Page 178, No. 3897: > > > > 11.13/1803, Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. Robert > born > > > > 10.7, sponsors; Robert van Deusen and Christina Decker. > > > > > > > > Page 191, No. 4179: > > > > 10.20.1805, Cornelius van Deusen and Cathlina De La Matter bpt. > Cornelia > > > > born 9.23, sponsors Abraham van Deusen and Arianje van Deusen. > > > > > > > > Page 202, No. 4404: > > > > 5.16.1807: Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. Maria born > > 2.8, > > > > sponsors; parents. > > > > > > > > Page 208, No. 4538: > > > > 4.18.1808: Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. Cornelius > > born > > > > 2.6, sponsors; parents. > > > > > > > > Page 224, No. 4895: > > > > 1.25.1811: Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. James > > Jeremiah > > > > born 10.16.1810, sponsors; James de La Matter and Gitty Osterhout. > > > > > > > > Page 276, No. 6040: > > > > 7.16.1820: Cornelius van Deusen and Lynje De La Matter bpt. Gilbert > born > > > > 5.22, sponsors; parents. > > > > > > > > Page 278, No. 6094: > > > > 12.11.1821: Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De Lamatter bpt. John G. > > Gebhard > > > > born 9.29, sponsors; parents. > > > > > > > > Cornelius is in the 1820 Census Claverack, Columbia County (Ancestry > > Image > > > > No. 10 under the surname of van durm??). He is in the 1830 also in > > > > Claverack (Ancestry Image No. 7 under the spelling of van Densen). > > > > > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > Susan > > > > ************************************************* > > > > "If you can't get rid of the family skeleton, you may as well make it > > > > dance." > > > > -- George Bernard Shaw > > > > Columbia County, NY Coordinator > > > > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/columbia/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >A Cornelius Vanhoesen appears in the 1820 census for Cairo and also > in > > > > >Lexington in Greene Co. There is also a Cornelius J. Vanhoesen in > > Hudson, > > > > >Columbia Co. in 1820. I realize this spelling is not correct but that > > is > > > > >the closest it came to VanDeusen when I did a search by first name > > only. > > > > > In 1830 there is a Cornelius Vanhoosen in Windham and a Cornelius I. > > Van > > > > > Deusen in Stuyvesant, Columbia Co. > > > > > For 1840. Cornelius Vandeusen at Berne in Albany Co., Cornelius > > Vandusen > > > > > in Palatine, Montgomery Co. (actually two there); Cornelius Vandusen > > at > > > > > Nassau, Rensselaeer Co., Cornelius C. Vandusen at Claverack, > Columbia > > Co., > > > > > Cornelius Vanduser at New York City, Ward 13 > > > > > 1850 > > > > > Cornelius Van Deusen in Claverack, Columbia Co. born about 1841, > same > > > > > spelling at Mohawk, Montgomery Co. born about 1800 and Cornelius C. > at > > > > > Claverack, Columbia Co. born about 1809. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Grstmll@yahoo.com" > > > > > To: > > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 7:58 AM > > > > > Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Vedder research > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Good Morning, > > > > >> So glad that you had a great trip to Europe and are back with > renewed > > > > >> "vigor" You site is priceless. > > > > >> In reference to your offer to do research, I was wondering if you > > might > > > > >> be able to help me establish the location of my 5th great > grandfather > > in > > > > >> Greene County. > > > > >> In 1813 Lynje DeLaMater wife of Cornelius VanDeusen inherited from > > her > > > > >> father Claude property in Coxsackie, right next to her brother > > Robert. I > > > > >> do have Cornelius in that area in 1810, but seem to lose them > between > > the > > > > >> Will date and 1850! > > > > >> They were apparently married in Columbia County, but believe their > > > > >> principle residence was Coxsackie as they had atleast two children > > > > >> baptized there. > > > > >> Not sure what records are available there, but would appreciate if > > you > > > > >> could use your knowledge as to where to look. > > > > >> > > > > >> Thank you for your time, and please let me know if you would like > the > > fee > > > > >> prior to your visit to the library. I can send you a check right > > away.. > > > > >> > > > > >> Thanks again, > > > > >> Linda VanDeusen-Kintzing > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Sylvia Hasenkopf wrote: > > > > >> Hello everyone. Back from vacation in Europe - had a great time! > And > > > > >> ready to get back into posting material to the list and > transcribing > > > > >> cemeteries. > > > > >> > > > > >> I''ll be heading to the Vedder Library to do some research the > first > > > > >> Thursday evening and the first Saturday morning in August. > > > > >> > > > > >> As most of you know, I can do look ups for a modest fee. Family > > files, > > > > >> probate records, newspaper records etc. > > > > >> > > > > >> If anyone is interested, let me know. Many may be wondering - I use > > these > > > > >> fees to acquire new material for the site. > > > > >> > > > > >> Hope everyone is having a wonderful summer! > > > > >> > > > > >> Sylvia > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > > > > >> Greene County Tax Assessment going on line now! > > > > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > > > >> > > > > >> ============================== > > > > >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and > > the > > > > >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 > months. > > > > >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> __________________________________________________ > > > > >> Do You Yahoo!? > > > > >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Thank you Patricia: That may be my next step. I was hoping to have some input from the list before I take that step. If any list members are related I will send copies of the grave markers. Janice Brown >> If you know when and where William Brown and Edna Saunders were married, their marriage certificate should mention the names of their parents as well as their places of birth. William Brown's death certificate and newspaper obituary should also contain this information. Patricia Morrow, Windham Town Historian (Greene County, NY) >> I sent the following email to the list a few days ago and it did not appear on the list. I hope it posts this time. ------------------------------------- I am trying to identify William Brown 1888-1956 who m. Edna. Edna 1896-1967 is a dau of Daniel and Minnie. I have grave marker photos of William & Edna Brown, Tracy R. and Jessie K. Quinn Saunders. Brown descendant, Janice

If you know when and where William Brown and Edna Saunders were married, their marriage certificate should mention the names of their parents as well as their places of birth. William Brown's death certificate and newspaper obituary should also contain this information. Patricia Morrow, Windham Town Historian (Greene County, NY) From: Display Mail('aol.com','JANB111');JANB111@aol.com Subject: Edna Saunders m. William Brown Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 22:50:04 EDT I sent the following email to the list a few days ago and it did not appear on the list. I hope it posts this time. ------------------------------------- I am trying to identify William Brown 1888-1956 who m. Edna. Edna 1896-1967 is a dau of Daniel and Minnie. I have grave marker photos of William & Edna Brown, Tracy R. and Jessie K. Quinn Saunders. Brown descendant, Janice

Hi, The part about the brain was cute, I usually say that after a long week of research. Thanks so much for all of your suggestions, your mind is working far better than mineand you have been very helpful. :-)) End of week humor, my grandfather from the 1600's was fired from his job as company miller! peigi mulligan <pmulligan@hvc.rr.com> wrote: If I only had a brain..... Also, on ancestry.com, I've also found if I do a search just on Census, All Years, I get a better response than if I search on the main search. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grstmll@yahoo.com" To: Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Duesen & Delamater > Hi Peigi, > Will try your suggestion this weekend and let you know if it brings up more information. > The first VanDeusen to come to this country(circa 1623) was a miller, my husband's great grandfather was a miller and the house we live in was the home of the owner of a gristmill just across our dirt road. When I first started to create a screen name and everything else I wanted was taken, I looked out the window and it was "born". Of course someone had the name fully spelled out, but out of desperation of I took what I could get. > > peigi mulligan wrote: > Linda, > Let me know how it works. > Are you with Grist Mill? > Peigi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Grstmll@yahoo.com" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 6:51 PM > Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Duesen & Delamater > > > > Hi, > > Thought you had to have 5 letters ahead of the asterick to do this type > of search. I have used the ? a couple of letters before the asterick.Will > definitely try this and see what happens... > > Thanks! > > Linda > > > > peigi mulligan > wrote: > > when using ancestry.com census records, instead of soundex, another method > > for finding sur or forenames is to put in the first 3 letters with an > > asterick, ie: > > john smith > > joh* > > smi* > > john smi* > > joh* smi* > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 2:32 PM > > Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Duesen & Delamater > > > > > > > Hi Linda, > > > > > > It's not some much the family changing the spelling of their name, it is > > usually spelled the way the census enumerator hears it. Most of the people > > did not know how to write or spell. And I have found especially with the > > indices on Ancestry.com that the people who did the indices are not > familiar > > with the Dutch surnames of the area. What I usually do to find them is do > a > > forename search, as most people (then and now) know how to spell Cornelius > > or Claude. I put in the forename, state, county and town. And alot of the > > time, if a family was not home, the cenus taker just asked a neighbor and > > any one that was around and they might not know the correct information. > > > > > > > > > In the 1820 census Claverack, Columbia, NY, Roll M33-70, page 66: > > > Cornelius Van Deusen > > > 3 males to 10 > > > 2 males 10 to 16 > > > 2 males 16 to 26 > > > 1 male 45 and up > > > 1 female 10 to 16 > > > 1 female 26 to 45 > > > 1 female 45 and up > > > 5 in agriculture > > > > > > In the 1830 census also Claverack, Roll86, page 79 > > > 2 male 5 to 10 > > > 1 male 15 to 20 > > > 1 male 20 to 30 > > > 1 male to to 60 > > > 1 female 15 to 20 > > > 1 female 50 to 60 > > > > > > Also in the Dutch Reformed Church of Claverack: > > > Baptism Date: 29 Nov 1834 > > > Father: Claudius C. Van Deusen > > > Mother: Lydia Ann Mc Clean > > > Item #: 6434 > > > Child: Julia Angline > > > Sponsor: Claudius C. Van Deusen; Lydia Ann Mc Clean > > > Birth Date: 29 Oct 1834 > > > Baptism Record of Reformed Church: Claverack, (Columbia County) Reformed > > Church 1727-1899 > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------ > > > Baptism Date: 01 Sep 1839 > > > Father: Claudius Van Deusen > > > Mother: Lydia Ann Mc Clean > > > Item #: 6579 > > > Child: Jurial > > > Sponsor: Claudius Van Deusen; Lydia Ann Mc Clean > > > Birth Date: 21 Aug 1838 > > > Baptism Record of Reformed Church: Claverack, (Columbia County) Reformed > > Church > > > > > > Is this the Claude you are looking for? > > > > > > Hope this helps, > > > Susan > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > > > > > > Hello Susan, > > > > Thank you so much for the information, that is the family I am looking > > for. > > > > > > > > My problem is attempting to locate Cornelius and his son Claude from > the > > > > time period of 1820 to 1840.With what you have told me, their strange > > penchant > > > > for changing their name had been going on for awhile. There are three > > strange > > > > possiblities that bring this about, they were actaully not giving the > > correct > > > > name, someone had a speech impediment, they got the worst of the > > > > enumerators.Though I did notice in the 1855 or 65 Kinderhook census, > the > > > > enumerator was upset beause he was meeting with a great deal of > > resisitance to > > > > his questions and either getting no information or incomplete answers. > > > > > > > > Will check out the name VanDrum, the name VanDensen was also a name I > > found > > > > them as, on the 1850 census in Chatham . > > > > > > > > So I will go back and redo the census records under alot of other > names > > I > > > > hadn't thought of. > > > > I do so appreciate all that you are doing with your site, it is great! > > If you > > > > ever need help transcribing please let me know. Another question, if I > > get back > > > > down the the state library, is there something you are interested in > > from there? > > > > > > > > Thanks again, you mayhave solved a long standing mystery. > > > > > > > > Linda > > > > > > > > > > > > smulvey wrote: > > > > Hi Linda, > > > > Not sure if this is the family your are looking for but I thought I > > would > > > > send in anyway as the names are the same. > > > > > > > > From the book: "Marriage Record of Reformed Church, Claverack, New > York > > > > 1717-1899" transcribed by Arthur C.M. Kelly, Kinship, Rhinebeck, NY > > 1970. > > > > Page 24, No. 828: > > > > 4.3.1797: Cornelius van Deusen married Linje De La Matter > > > > > > > > From the book: "Baptism Record of Reformed Church Claverack, (Columbia > > > > County) New York" 1717-1899 transcribed by Arthur C.M. Kelly, Kinship, > > > > Rhinebeck, NY 1970. > > > > Page 147, No. 3216 > > > > 7.7.1799, Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. Matteus > > Abraham > > > > born 6.18, sponsors: Tobias van Deusen and Cornelis van Deusen. > > > > > > > > Page 157, No. 3429: > > > > 12.7.1800, Cornelius van Deusen and Linje de La Matter bpt. Robert > born > > > > 11.9, sponsors; Robert de La Matter and Magdalena De La Matter. > > > > > > > > Page 170, No. 3714: > > > > 7.11.1802, Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. Cloudy > born > > 6.4, > > > > sponsors Cloudius de La Matter and Lena Mandevill. > > > > > > > > Page 178, No. 3897: > > > > 11.13/1803, Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. Robert > born > > > > 10.7, sponsors; Robert van Deusen and Christina Decker. > > > > > > > > Page 191, No. 4179: > > > > 10.20.1805, Cornelius van Deusen and Cathlina De La Matter bpt. > Cornelia > > > > born 9.23, sponsors Abraham van Deusen and Arianje van Deusen. > > > > > > > > Page 202, No. 4404: > > > > 5.16.1807: Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. Maria born > > 2.8, > > > > sponsors; parents. > > > > > > > > Page 208, No. 4538: > > > > 4.18.1808: Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. Cornelius > > born > > > > 2.6, sponsors; parents. > > > > > > > > Page 224, No. 4895: > > > > 1.25.1811: Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. James > > Jeremiah > > > > born 10.16.1810, sponsors; James de La Matter and Gitty Osterhout. > > > > > > > > Page 276, No. 6040: > > > > 7.16.1820: Cornelius van Deusen and Lynje De La Matter bpt. Gilbert > born > > > > 5.22, sponsors; parents. > > > > > > > > Page 278, No. 6094: > > > > 12.11.1821: Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De Lamatter bpt. John G. > > Gebhard > > > > born 9.29, sponsors; parents. > > > > > > > > Cornelius is in the 1820 Census Claverack, Columbia County (Ancestry > > Image > > > > No. 10 under the surname of van durm??). He is in the 1830 also in > > > > Claverack (Ancestry Image No. 7 under the spelling of van Densen). > > > > > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > Susan > > > > ************************************************* > > > > "If you can't get rid of the family skeleton, you may as well make it > > > > dance." > > > > -- George Bernard Shaw > > > > Columbia County, NY Coordinator > > > > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/columbia/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >A Cornelius Vanhoesen appears in the 1820 census for Cairo and also > in > > > > >Lexington in Greene Co. There is also a Cornelius J. Vanhoesen in > > Hudson, > > > > >Columbia Co. in 1820. I realize this spelling is not correct but that > > is > > > > >the closest it came to VanDeusen when I did a search by first name > > only. > > > > > In 1830 there is a Cornelius Vanhoosen in Windham and a Cornelius I. > > Van > > > > > Deusen in Stuyvesant, Columbia Co. > > > > > For 1840. Cornelius Vandeusen at Berne in Albany Co., Cornelius > > Vandusen > > > > > in Palatine, Montgomery Co. (actually two there); Cornelius Vandusen > > at > > > > > Nassau, Rensselaeer Co., Cornelius C. Vandusen at Claverack, > Columbia > > Co., > > > > > Cornelius Vanduser at New York City, Ward 13 > > > > > 1850 > > > > > Cornelius Van Deusen in Claverack, Columbia Co. born about 1841, > same > > > > > spelling at Mohawk, Montgomery Co. born about 1800 and Cornelius C. > at > > > > > Claverack, Columbia Co. born about 1809. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Grstmll@yahoo.com" > > > > > To: > > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 7:58 AM > > > > > Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Vedder research > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Good Morning, > > > > >> So glad that you had a great trip to Europe and are back with > renewed > > > > >> "vigor" You site is priceless. > > > > >> In reference to your offer to do research, I was wondering if you > > might > > > > >> be able to help me establish the location of my 5th great > grandfather > > in > > > > >> Greene County. > > > > >> In 1813 Lynje DeLaMater wife of Cornelius VanDeusen inherited from > > her > > > > >> father Claude property in Coxsackie, right next to her brother > > Robert. I > > > > >> do have Cornelius in that area in 1810, but seem to lose them > between > > the > > > > >> Will date and 1850! > > > > >> They were apparently married in Columbia County, but believe their > > > > >> principle residence was Coxsackie as they had atleast two children > > > > >> baptized there. > > > > >> Not sure what records are available there, but would appreciate if > > you > > > > >> could use your knowledge as to where to look. > > > > >> > > > > >> Thank you for your time, and please let me know if you would like > the > > fee > > > > >> prior to your visit to the library. I can send you a check right > > away.. > > > > >> > > > > >> Thanks again, > > > > >> Linda VanDeusen-Kintzing > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Sylvia Hasenkopf wrote: > > > > >> Hello everyone. Back from vacation in Europe - had a great time! > And > > > > >> ready to get back into posting material to the list and > transcribing > > > > >> cemeteries. > > > > >> > > > > >> I''ll be heading to the Vedder Library to do some research the > first > > > > >> Thursday evening and the first Saturday morning in August. > > > > >> > > > > >> As most of you know, I can do look ups for a modest fee. Family > > files, > > > > >> probate records, newspaper records etc. > > > > >> > > > > >> If anyone is interested, let me know. 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Dear Leslie Thank you very much for the information. As I was reading through some notes, when I saw your mention of Saratoga county that rang a bell and I believe that one of the families I am researching may have been there in the 1770-1800, before they moved on to Holland Land Purchase. The name I am researching is Van De Bogart and there are numerous spellings of it. There were 5 brothers (Cherrick, Nicholas, William, Joseph and Charles) and I think they all may have been in the Charlston area. Do you have any of them listed in the Tax District? Thanks Shelley Fox > [Original Message] > From: Leslie B. Potter <LBP@axs2000.net> > To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 8/5/2005 7:27:18 AM > Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] revolutionary war soldiers > > Dear Shelley Fox and List: > > There were 388 taxpayers on the October 23, 1779 Schenectady District Tax > List for Albany County, NY. (Summary of the 1779 Albany County Tax returns > prepared by John N. Bleecker, Albany County Treasurer, New York State > Library call number: KT 13324, GY Lansing Papers, Box 1 file 2) > > The Second Regiment of the Albany County Militia was raised from the > Schenectady Tax District of Albany County, NY. > > According to New York in the Revolution as Colony and State compiled by > James Roberts, 903 men served in the Second Regiment during the entire > course of the Revolution. Roberts was the Comptroller of New York State and > compiled a list of names for each Regiment based on pay records. So 903 is > probably a slightly inflated number because he recorded each variation of > spelling of each name as though it represented a separate person. > > So I shall let you figure out the percentages. I do not know enough about > the population of the Schenectady District to even hazard a guess. If you > wanted to know about the population of the Saratoga Tax District I might be > able to be of more help to you. > > If you want a more comprehensive picture of Albany County, I bequeath you > the following trivia. > > Albany County Summary page for 1779 Tax Lists > > From the Records of John N. Bleecker found in the Lansing Papers in the New > York State Library, Albany, NY > > The Summary page from John N. Bleecker's Albany County Treasurers records. > > Name of District > Number of Persons Rated > > First Ward of the City of Albany 224 > Second Ward of the City of Albany 103 > Third Ward of The City of Albany 147 > Manor of Ranselear District 1,524 > Manor of Livingston District 526 > Claverach District 700 > Schohary & c. District 209 > Schonectady District 388 > Coxhachy District 257 > Kinderhook District 360 > Saratoga District 374 > Schachtakook District 233 > Hosack District 182 > German Camp District 53 > Great Inboght District 52 > Half Moon District 273 > Cambridge District 153 > Kings District > 589 > Ballstown District > 57 > > Please note that the spelling of each place name in the above list is the > exact spelling that Mr. Bleecker actually used. > > The Albany County Tax Districts from which the Albany County Militia > Regiments were raised: > > Regiment Name of Tax District > > 1st City of Albany > 2nd Schenectady District > 3rd 1st Rensselerwyck Battalion > 4th 2nd Rensselaerwyck Battalion > 5th 3rd Rensselaerwyck Battalion > 6th 4th Rensselaerwyck Battalion > 7th Kinderhook District > 8th 1st Claverack Battalion > 9th 2nd Claverack Battalion > 10th Manor Of Livingston > 11th Coxsackie and Groote Imbockt > 12th Half Moon and Ballston Districts > 13th Saratoga District > 14th Hoosack and Schaghtecooke Districts > 15th United Districts of Schoharie and Duanesburgh > 16th Cambridge District > 17th Kings District (This was from the Canaan/Chatham area of present > Columbia County) > > Hope that this helps. > > Sincerely, > > Leslie Potter > Glen Mills, PA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shelley Fox" <shelley.fox@earthlink.net> > To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 8:52 PM > Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] revolutionary war soldiers > > > > As I have been doing my research I have come across a question that I know > my fellow Greene County researchers can probably answer. I have found that > an ancestor in Western Massachusetts served in the Revolutionary War as a > guard in Vermont for 2 3 month terms, I also found an ancestor who > eventually resided in Greene County served in the War in Connecticut for the > period of the war, but I have not been able to determine if the ancestor who > resided in Schenectady during the Revolutionary war ever served. Can anyone > tell me what percentage of males served in the war? And is it possible that > none of the males in a family from Schenectady area ever served in the > revolutionary war. > > > > Thanks > > > > Shelley Fox > > > > > > Shelley Fox > > shelley.fox@earthlink.net > > Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > > > > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > > Your resource site for Greene County Cemeteries, Biographies, Censuses, > > Wills and so much more! 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Where does the Hallenbeck surname come into the picture?

Dear Shelley Fox and List: There were 388 taxpayers on the October 23, 1779 Schenectady District Tax List for Albany County, NY. (Summary of the 1779 Albany County Tax returns prepared by John N. Bleecker, Albany County Treasurer, New York State Library call number: KT 13324, GY Lansing Papers, Box 1 file 2) The Second Regiment of the Albany County Militia was raised from the Schenectady Tax District of Albany County, NY. According to New York in the Revolution as Colony and State compiled by James Roberts, 903 men served in the Second Regiment during the entire course of the Revolution. Roberts was the Comptroller of New York State and compiled a list of names for each Regiment based on pay records. So 903 is probably a slightly inflated number because he recorded each variation of spelling of each name as though it represented a separate person. So I shall let you figure out the percentages. I do not know enough about the population of the Schenectady District to even hazard a guess. If you wanted to know about the population of the Saratoga Tax District I might be able to be of more help to you. If you want a more comprehensive picture of Albany County, I bequeath you the following trivia. Albany County Summary page for 1779 Tax Lists From the Records of John N. Bleecker found in the Lansing Papers in the New York State Library, Albany, NY The Summary page from John N. Bleecker's Albany County Treasurers records. Name of District Number of Persons Rated First Ward of the City of Albany 224 Second Ward of the City of Albany 103 Third Ward of The City of Albany 147 Manor of Ranselear District 1,524 Manor of Livingston District 526 Claverach District 700 Schohary & c. District 209 Schonectady District 388 Coxhachy District 257 Kinderhook District 360 Saratoga District 374 Schachtakook District 233 Hosack District 182 German Camp District 53 Great Inboght District 52 Half Moon District 273 Cambridge District 153 Kings District 589 Ballstown District 57 Please note that the spelling of each place name in the above list is the exact spelling that Mr. Bleecker actually used. The Albany County Tax Districts from which the Albany County Militia Regiments were raised: Regiment Name of Tax District 1st City of Albany 2nd Schenectady District 3rd 1st Rensselerwyck Battalion 4th 2nd Rensselaerwyck Battalion 5th 3rd Rensselaerwyck Battalion 6th 4th Rensselaerwyck Battalion 7th Kinderhook District 8th 1st Claverack Battalion 9th 2nd Claverack Battalion 10th Manor Of Livingston 11th Coxsackie and Groote Imbockt 12th Half Moon and Ballston Districts 13th Saratoga District 14th Hoosack and Schaghtecooke Districts 15th United Districts of Schoharie and Duanesburgh 16th Cambridge District 17th Kings District (This was from the Canaan/Chatham area of present Columbia County) Hope that this helps. Sincerely, Leslie Potter Glen Mills, PA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelley Fox" <shelley.fox@earthlink.net> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 8:52 PM Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] revolutionary war soldiers > As I have been doing my research I have come across a question that I know my fellow Greene County researchers can probably answer. I have found that an ancestor in Western Massachusetts served in the Revolutionary War as a guard in Vermont for 2 3 month terms, I also found an ancestor who eventually resided in Greene County served in the War in Connecticut for the period of the war, but I have not been able to determine if the ancestor who resided in Schenectady during the Revolutionary war ever served. Can anyone tell me what percentage of males served in the war? And is it possible that none of the males in a family from Schenectady area ever served in the revolutionary war. > > Thanks > > Shelley Fox > > > Shelley Fox > shelley.fox@earthlink.net > Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Your resource site for Greene County Cemeteries, Biographies, Censuses, > Wills and so much more! Check us out! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Hi Peigi, Will try your suggestion this weekend and let you know if it brings up more information. The first VanDeusen to come to this country(circa 1623) was a miller, my husband's great grandfather was a miller and the house we live in was the home of the owner of a gristmill just across our dirt road. When I first started to create a screen name and everything else I wanted was taken, I looked out the window and it was "born". Of course someone had the name fully spelled out, but out of desperation of I took what I could get. peigi mulligan <pmulligan@hvc.rr.com> wrote: Linda, Let me know how it works. Are you with Grist Mill? Peigi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grstmll@yahoo.com" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Duesen & Delamater > Hi, > Thought you had to have 5 letters ahead of the asterick to do this type of search. I have used the ? a couple of letters before the asterick.Will definitely try this and see what happens... > Thanks! > Linda > > peigi mulligan wrote: > when using ancestry.com census records, instead of soundex, another method > for finding sur or forenames is to put in the first 3 letters with an > asterick, ie: > john smith > joh* > smi* > john smi* > joh* smi* > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 2:32 PM > Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Van Duesen & Delamater > > > > Hi Linda, > > > > It's not some much the family changing the spelling of their name, it is > usually spelled the way the census enumerator hears it. Most of the people > did not know how to write or spell. And I have found especially with the > indices on Ancestry.com that the people who did the indices are not familiar > with the Dutch surnames of the area. What I usually do to find them is do a > forename search, as most people (then and now) know how to spell Cornelius > or Claude. I put in the forename, state, county and town. And alot of the > time, if a family was not home, the cenus taker just asked a neighbor and > any one that was around and they might not know the correct information. > > > > > > In the 1820 census Claverack, Columbia, NY, Roll M33-70, page 66: > > Cornelius Van Deusen > > 3 males to 10 > > 2 males 10 to 16 > > 2 males 16 to 26 > > 1 male 45 and up > > 1 female 10 to 16 > > 1 female 26 to 45 > > 1 female 45 and up > > 5 in agriculture > > > > In the 1830 census also Claverack, Roll86, page 79 > > 2 male 5 to 10 > > 1 male 15 to 20 > > 1 male 20 to 30 > > 1 male to to 60 > > 1 female 15 to 20 > > 1 female 50 to 60 > > > > Also in the Dutch Reformed Church of Claverack: > > Baptism Date: 29 Nov 1834 > > Father: Claudius C. Van Deusen > > Mother: Lydia Ann Mc Clean > > Item #: 6434 > > Child: Julia Angline > > Sponsor: Claudius C. Van Deusen; Lydia Ann Mc Clean > > Birth Date: 29 Oct 1834 > > Baptism Record of Reformed Church: Claverack, (Columbia County) Reformed > Church 1727-1899 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------ > > Baptism Date: 01 Sep 1839 > > Father: Claudius Van Deusen > > Mother: Lydia Ann Mc Clean > > Item #: 6579 > > Child: Jurial > > Sponsor: Claudius Van Deusen; Lydia Ann Mc Clean > > Birth Date: 21 Aug 1838 > > Baptism Record of Reformed Church: Claverack, (Columbia County) Reformed > Church > > > > Is this the Claude you are looking for? > > > > Hope this helps, > > Susan > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > > > > Hello Susan, > > > Thank you so much for the information, that is the family I am looking > for. > > > > > > My problem is attempting to locate Cornelius and his son Claude from the > > > time period of 1820 to 1840.With what you have told me, their strange > penchant > > > for changing their name had been going on for awhile. There are three > strange > > > possiblities that bring this about, they were actaully not giving the > correct > > > name, someone had a speech impediment, they got the worst of the > > > enumerators.Though I did notice in the 1855 or 65 Kinderhook census, the > > > enumerator was upset beause he was meeting with a great deal of > resisitance to > > > his questions and either getting no information or incomplete answers. > > > > > > Will check out the name VanDrum, the name VanDensen was also a name I > found > > > them as, on the 1850 census in Chatham . > > > > > > So I will go back and redo the census records under alot of other names > I > > > hadn't thought of. > > > I do so appreciate all that you are doing with your site, it is great! > If you > > > ever need help transcribing please let me know. Another question, if I > get back > > > down the the state library, is there something you are interested in > from there? > > > > > > Thanks again, you mayhave solved a long standing mystery. > > > > > > Linda > > > > > > > > > smulvey wrote: > > > Hi Linda, > > > Not sure if this is the family your are looking for but I thought I > would > > > send in anyway as the names are the same. > > > > > > From the book: "Marriage Record of Reformed Church, Claverack, New York > > > 1717-1899" transcribed by Arthur C.M. Kelly, Kinship, Rhinebeck, NY > 1970. > > > Page 24, No. 828: > > > 4.3.1797: Cornelius van Deusen married Linje De La Matter > > > > > > From the book: "Baptism Record of Reformed Church Claverack, (Columbia > > > County) New York" 1717-1899 transcribed by Arthur C.M. Kelly, Kinship, > > > Rhinebeck, NY 1970. > > > Page 147, No. 3216 > > > 7.7.1799, Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. Matteus > Abraham > > > born 6.18, sponsors: Tobias van Deusen and Cornelis van Deusen. > > > > > > Page 157, No. 3429: > > > 12.7.1800, Cornelius van Deusen and Linje de La Matter bpt. Robert born > > > 11.9, sponsors; Robert de La Matter and Magdalena De La Matter. > > > > > > Page 170, No. 3714: > > > 7.11.1802, Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. Cloudy born > 6.4, > > > sponsors Cloudius de La Matter and Lena Mandevill. > > > > > > Page 178, No. 3897: > > > 11.13/1803, Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. Robert born > > > 10.7, sponsors; Robert van Deusen and Christina Decker. > > > > > > Page 191, No. 4179: > > > 10.20.1805, Cornelius van Deusen and Cathlina De La Matter bpt. Cornelia > > > born 9.23, sponsors Abraham van Deusen and Arianje van Deusen. > > > > > > Page 202, No. 4404: > > > 5.16.1807: Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. Maria born > 2.8, > > > sponsors; parents. > > > > > > Page 208, No. 4538: > > > 4.18.1808: Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. Cornelius > born > > > 2.6, sponsors; parents. > > > > > > Page 224, No. 4895: > > > 1.25.1811: Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De La Matter bpt. James > Jeremiah > > > born 10.16.1810, sponsors; James de La Matter and Gitty Osterhout. > > > > > > Page 276, No. 6040: > > > 7.16.1820: Cornelius van Deusen and Lynje De La Matter bpt. Gilbert born > > > 5.22, sponsors; parents. > > > > > > Page 278, No. 6094: > > > 12.11.1821: Cornelius van Deusen and Linje De Lamatter bpt. John G. > Gebhard > > > born 9.29, sponsors; parents. > > > > > > Cornelius is in the 1820 Census Claverack, Columbia County (Ancestry > Image > > > No. 10 under the surname of van durm??). He is in the 1830 also in > > > Claverack (Ancestry Image No. 7 under the spelling of van Densen). > > > > > > Hope this helps, > > > Susan > > > ************************************************* > > > "If you can't get rid of the family skeleton, you may as well make it > > > dance." > > > -- George Bernard Shaw > > > Columbia County, NY Coordinator > > > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/columbia/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >A Cornelius Vanhoesen appears in the 1820 census for Cairo and also in > > > >Lexington in Greene Co. There is also a Cornelius J. Vanhoesen in > Hudson, > > > >Columbia Co. in 1820. I realize this spelling is not correct but that > is > > > >the closest it came to VanDeusen when I did a search by first name > only. > > > > In 1830 there is a Cornelius Vanhoosen in Windham and a Cornelius I. > Van > > > > Deusen in Stuyvesant, Columbia Co. > > > > For 1840. Cornelius Vandeusen at Berne in Albany Co., Cornelius > Vandusen > > > > in Palatine, Montgomery Co. (actually two there); Cornelius Vandusen > at > > > > Nassau, Rensselaeer Co., Cornelius C. Vandusen at Claverack, Columbia > Co., > > > > Cornelius Vanduser at New York City, Ward 13 > > > > 1850 > > > > Cornelius Van Deusen in Claverack, Columbia Co. born about 1841, same > > > > spelling at Mohawk, Montgomery Co. born about 1800 and Cornelius C. at > > > > Claverack, Columbia Co. born about 1809. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Grstmll@yahoo.com" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 7:58 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Vedder research > > > > > > > > > > > >> Good Morning, > > > >> So glad that you had a great trip to Europe and are back with renewed > > > >> "vigor" You site is priceless. > > > >> In reference to your offer to do research, I was wondering if you > might > > > >> be able to help me establish the location of my 5th great grandfather > in > > > >> Greene County. > > > >> In 1813 Lynje DeLaMater wife of Cornelius VanDeusen inherited from > her > > > >> father Claude property in Coxsackie, right next to her brother > Robert. I > > > >> do have Cornelius in that area in 1810, but seem to lose them between > the > > > >> Will date and 1850! > > > >> They were apparently married in Columbia County, but believe their > > > >> principle residence was Coxsackie as they had atleast two children > > > >> baptized there. > > > >> Not sure what records are available there, but would appreciate if > you > > > >> could use your knowledge as to where to look. > > > >> > > > >> Thank you for your time, and please let me know if you would like the > fee > > > >> prior to your visit to the library. I can send you a check right > away.. > > > >> > > > >> Thanks again, > > > >> Linda VanDeusen-Kintzing > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Sylvia Hasenkopf wrote: > > > >> Hello everyone. Back from vacation in Europe - had a great time! And > > > >> ready to get back into posting material to the list and transcribing > > > >> cemeteries. > > > >> > > > >> I''ll be heading to the Vedder Library to do some research the first > > > >> Thursday evening and the first Saturday morning in August. > > > >> > > > >> As most of you know, I can do look ups for a modest fee. Family > files, > > > >> probate records, newspaper records etc. > > > >> > > > >> If anyone is interested, let me know. Many may be wondering - I use > these > > > >> fees to acquire new material for the site. > > > >> > > > >> Hope everyone is having a wonderful summer! > > > >> > > > >> Sylvia > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > > > >> Greene County Tax Assessment going on line now! > > > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > > >> > > > >> ============================== > > > >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and > the > > > >> areas they lived. 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I sent the following email to the list a few days ago and it did not appear on the list. I hope it posts this time. ------------------------------------- I am trying to identify William Brown 1888-1956 who m. Edna. Edna 1896-1967 is a dau of Daniel and Minnie. I have grave marker photos of William & Edna Brown, Tracy R. and Jessie K. Quinn Saunders. Brown descendant, Janice