>I am new to this list. I am searching for Williams, Hotaling/Houghtaling, >Powell, Armstrong, McCabe, Vandenbergh, VanLoan/VanLoon, Carman, Ham, >VanDeusen, Whitbeck, VanSlyke in Greene County, NY. MJ, There are tons of most of those families in Greene County. It might be more useful to work your way through the list one at a time to show what you have and/or what you are looking for specifically. You'll probably be able to prompt a discussion on at least several of them. Jim

Hi Sue, I am researching Tompkins and Christian. Drucilla Christian (b. 1813) m. William Tompkins (b. 1816) and they were the parents of my ggrandmother, Mary Elizabeth Tompkins Matthews (b. 1844). Mary Elizabeth and her husband, Lauren Alonzo Matthews, lived in Ashland, Greene Co. William Tompkins is buried in the West Settlement Cemetery, Ashland. In the 1855 Ashland Census, there is a Bebee/Bebec living with William, Drucilla and their family. Do you know anything about her? I have no other information on William or Drucilla except for the offspring, nor am I sure that I spelled the name correctly. It might be Druzilla or something else. Do you see any connection? My ggrandmother's formal portrait is staring down at me as I write this to you and I really need to find out more about her history, starting with her grandparents on both sides. Thanks for any help you may offer. Mignon "Your vision will only come clear when you look into your heart. Who looks outside, dreams. Who looks inside, awakens. Carl Jung ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randall Brown" <rbrown14@stny.rr.com> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 6:37 PM Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] Roll Call > Researching these families that were primarily from the Ashland/Windham > area. > > Lee, Brownell, Currie, Christian, Tompkins, Benjamin, Cole, Bagley, > Stimson/Stimpson, Benham, Tiel, Wiers. > > > Sue Brown > > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Over 1400 pages of Greene County information, fully indexed, to help you > find your lost link! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Jim, do you have anything on the Edgar C. Schufelt b. Sept 15, 1916 and Clara Delamater connection? Sylvia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Groat" <jgroat1@midsouth.rr.com> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 8:52 PM Subject: RE: [GREENE COUNTY] Roll Call VAN WIE spouses > I've got some information of the first several generations of the Shufelts > on my web page. > > http://home.midsouth.rr.com/groatline/Index.html > > Keep in mind that most of what's up there came straight from the 1935 book > "Our Folks" which is fraught with errors and omoissions. Not knocking the > work of the Shufelt Association and Henry Ball Shufelt, the principal > compiler. They were working under conditions far more primitive than we > face > today. It served as a basis for all of my research. Also I just put that > up > there about five years ago and haven't touched it since. > > I'm trying to finalize a book on them that I have tentatively entitled > "Our > Folks Revisited." However each time I think I see a light at the end of > the > tunnel it turns out to be a not too bright candle! <grin> That starts me > off > on a tangent and requires massive renumbering and rewrites. Right now it > looks like about 4,000+ direct descendants and amounts to about 800 pages. > I > really need to clean it up and try to put it to bed before the good Lord > puts me to bed. I have a draft that I thought was approaching final about > six months ago but it too is incomplete compared to what I have discovered > since. If you have a high speed connection (cable or dsl) and you can read > a > MS Word document, I'll be more than glad to send it to you. Just let me > know. > > By the way - I'm sure it goes without saying that the name variations > SHUFELT, SHUFELDT, ZUFELT, ZUFELD, SHOEFELT, SHEWFELT, etc., etc., are all > mostly the same family. > > Regards, > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: James Brady [mailto:brady.j@att.net] > Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 5:06 PM > To: NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [GREENE COUNTY] Roll Call VAN WIE spouses > > Hi Jim, > > Yes, we do seem to cross paths often. I only had this because I was > researching some of the Spoor lines and this Van Wie line was relatively > easy to trace. > > Do you have anything on-line for the Shufelt family? I'm going through the > Kinderhook baptisms and can't easily figure out who all the Shufelts are. > They must have migrated from further south in Columbia County. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Groat [mailto:jgroat1@midsouth.rr.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 5:36 PM > To: NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [GREENE COUNTY] Roll Call VAN WIE spouses > > > Jim, Hi again! We do keep bumping into one another don't we? Of course the > Shufelt -- Van Wie marriage caught my eye and provided me with a bit more > background on Helen Celie Van Wie. I didn't have the exact wedding date or > place prior to this. This is part of what I currently have in my draft: > ---------------------------- > Sellick Edgar SHUFELT, the son of Peter Shufelt and Sarah Jane Wood, was > born August 4, 1842. He married in 1870, Helen Celia Van Wie, born June 8, > 1845, and maintained a clothing business in Albany. Sellick died May 11, > 1896, and was buried in Riverside Cemetery, Coxsackie, New York. The 1920 > Federal Census of Albany shows Helen, age 74, living with her daughter and > son-in-law, Elmer and Mae Passenger. Helen died May 2, 1933, and she also > was buried in Riverside Cemetery. They had at least three children, only > one > of whom survived in 1900. > 1) Edgar Baxter SHUFELT: born November 25, 1872. > 2) Van Wie SHUFELT: born October 15, 1874. > 3) Celia Mae SHUFELT: born March 31, 1886. > ---------------------------- > I have details on their children and grandchildren if you find it of > interest. Just give me a shout. > > Regards, > Jim Groat > > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Over 1400 pages of Greene County information, fully indexed, to help you > find your lost link! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Your on-line source for Greene County history and genealogy. Stop on by > and find your lost link! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Towner" <jac@fmtc.com> To: "Sylvia Magin" <smagin@degraff-foy.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Roll call! >I am interested in Asa Lord's family. According to Hubbard's Families of >Goshen CT, Elijah Towner's daughter, Mary (Polly) married Asa Lord. Through >prior correspondence I learned that Asa had several wives. I also heard of >the 'indian' story about one of his wives. The story had something to do >with one of the children's names being Loammi. Mary /Polly Towner had a >brother named Loammi, which is a name from the bible. This name has been >passed along in the Towner family. My father-in-law's middle name was >Loammi. Does anyone have a list of all Asa's children? and his wives and >any dates? Mary or Polly was born 29 Jan 1786 in Goshen, CT and married Asa >Lord 1810. > > Jackie Towner > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sylvia Magin" <smagin@degraff-foy.com> > To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 7:40 AM > Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Roll call! > > >> Hi, >> >> I'm another Lord descendant, like Tom McHugh and Mignon Matthews. >> >> Some of my other ancestors are Story, Holdridge, West, Gaylord, Fanning, >> Richtmeyer, Newcomb, Chapman, Blaisdell, to name a few. >> >> I grew up in Catskill (a long time ago!) >> >> Sylvia Story Magin >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <VTvending@aol.com> >> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 9:19 AM >> Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Roll call! >> >> >>> Hello Cousin! >>> >>> My Great -Grandfather, Clarence O'Brien was you GGF's brother. We're >>> definitely researching the same tree. >>> I have a great deal of info on the Lord family (Angeline Lord- our >>> G-G-Grandmother), but have been unable to get too much on the O'Bryans. >> I've pieced >>> together some census info, but there are gaps in the data, especially >> with >>> Thomas O'Bryan's ancestry. >>> By the way, I've always been told (and there are members of this branch >>> of >>> the Lord tree who have been told the same) that Angeline Lord's >>> G-G-Mother >> was >>> a full-blooded Native American. The particular tribe, as well as >>> documentation of this, is missing. Have you heard of this? >>> I'd be glad to share any info that I have with you, and would be >> interested >>> in any O'Bryan info that you have. >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> >>> Tom McHugh >>> Alburg, VT >>> >>> >>> ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== >>> Over 150 family bibles of Greene County families on-line now. Track down >>> your lost ancestor! >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 >>> >>> ============================== >>> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== >> Your on-line source for Greene County history and genealogy. Stop on by >> and find your lost link! >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 >> >> ============================== >> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >> ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >> >> >

Hi Jane, Yes, I have looked through Barbara Jeffries website. I have more information about Conrad Simon/Simmons (son of Andreas Simon and Anna Margaretha Pulver) than she does. I'm always on the lookout for new leads! Cindy In a message dated 9/20/2005 5:42:20 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Kiskatom3@mhcable.com writes: Cindy - Barbara Jeffries has a lot of Simon/Simmons and Pulver on her web site. If you do a search for "Barbara's Genealogy Page" you should be able to find it. If that doesn't work, let me know. I think I have it Bookmarked. Happy Hunting, Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: <SHINDEI2@aol.com> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 12:57 AM Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Roll Call - > I'm researching Conrad Simmons who lived in Greenville, Durham and Cairo > between 1810 - 1860. > > So far, I have found his name spelled as: Conrad Simon, Camrad Simon, > Coenrad Simmon, Coenradt Simmons, Coonrad Simmons and Coonrod Simmons - and even Conrad Silverans. > > - Possible parents names are Andreas Simon and Anna Margaretha Pulver. > > - Possible wives names are Maria Kellerhaus/Kellerhouse and Catharine > _______. > > - Possible children's names are: Ann/Anna, Elizabeth, William/Willem, > Geertje, John/Johannes, (son), Andrew and Catharine. Another daughter is > Lucinda. I have documentation proving that she's Conrad's daughter. (Lucinda's husband is Jacob Garrison of Cairo.) > > There is also an Albert Simmons who has some type of connection to Conrad. > Albert's wives names are Sophia Wilday and Huldah Goff. (Known children of Albert and Sophia are Caroline, Mary, William, and Sarah Jane.) > > I'm also looking for any type of documentation linking Conrad to Walton, > Delaware Co., NY and to "anyone" and "anywhere" in Columbia Co., NY. > > Thanks from the nuclear belt of Richland WA. > Cindy Simmons > >

Hi all, I am researching the following from Catskill: Kamermayer, Mauerer, and Wild. Also the Catskill Beer Garden of 428 West Main Street. Thanks, Pam

Sylvia, sorry, a correction: Malinda/Linda Van Wie (1854-1936), who married a Bergamini, was a daughter of Elizabeth (HOWLAND) & John Van Wie (1808-1873). Elizabeth (SPOOR) & John Van Wie (1787-1853) were the previous generation. Susan __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp

I've got some information of the first several generations of the Shufelts on my web page. http://home.midsouth.rr.com/groatline/Index.html Keep in mind that most of what's up there came straight from the 1935 book "Our Folks" which is fraught with errors and omoissions. Not knocking the work of the Shufelt Association and Henry Ball Shufelt, the principal compiler. They were working under conditions far more primitive than we face today. It served as a basis for all of my research. Also I just put that up there about five years ago and haven't touched it since. I'm trying to finalize a book on them that I have tentatively entitled "Our Folks Revisited." However each time I think I see a light at the end of the tunnel it turns out to be a not too bright candle! <grin> That starts me off on a tangent and requires massive renumbering and rewrites. Right now it looks like about 4,000+ direct descendants and amounts to about 800 pages. I really need to clean it up and try to put it to bed before the good Lord puts me to bed. I have a draft that I thought was approaching final about six months ago but it too is incomplete compared to what I have discovered since. If you have a high speed connection (cable or dsl) and you can read a MS Word document, I'll be more than glad to send it to you. Just let me know. By the way - I'm sure it goes without saying that the name variations SHUFELT, SHUFELDT, ZUFELT, ZUFELD, SHOEFELT, SHEWFELT, etc., etc., are all mostly the same family. Regards, Jim -----Original Message----- From: James Brady [mailto:brady.j@att.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 5:06 PM To: NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [GREENE COUNTY] Roll Call VAN WIE spouses Hi Jim, Yes, we do seem to cross paths often. I only had this because I was researching some of the Spoor lines and this Van Wie line was relatively easy to trace. Do you have anything on-line for the Shufelt family? I'm going through the Kinderhook baptisms and can't easily figure out who all the Shufelts are. They must have migrated from further south in Columbia County. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Jim Groat [mailto:jgroat1@midsouth.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 5:36 PM To: NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [GREENE COUNTY] Roll Call VAN WIE spouses Jim, Hi again! We do keep bumping into one another don't we? Of course the Shufelt -- Van Wie marriage caught my eye and provided me with a bit more background on Helen Celie Van Wie. I didn't have the exact wedding date or place prior to this. This is part of what I currently have in my draft: ---------------------------- Sellick Edgar SHUFELT, the son of Peter Shufelt and Sarah Jane Wood, was born August 4, 1842. He married in 1870, Helen Celia Van Wie, born June 8, 1845, and maintained a clothing business in Albany. Sellick died May 11, 1896, and was buried in Riverside Cemetery, Coxsackie, New York. The 1920 Federal Census of Albany shows Helen, age 74, living with her daughter and son-in-law, Elmer and Mae Passenger. Helen died May 2, 1933, and she also was buried in Riverside Cemetery. They had at least three children, only one of whom survived in 1900. 1) Edgar Baxter SHUFELT: born November 25, 1872. 2) Van Wie SHUFELT: born October 15, 1874. 3) Celia Mae SHUFELT: born March 31, 1886. ---------------------------- I have details on their children and grandchildren if you find it of interest. Just give me a shout. Regards, Jim Groat ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== Over 1400 pages of Greene County information, fully indexed, to help you find your lost link! http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

To Jim Brady, Thank you for your compilation! I had most, but not all. Was missing marriage of Anna Van Wie to Hugh JOLLEY, for example. And now Jim Groat's posting in response to yours gave descendants I didn't have for Helen Celia Van Wie & Edgar SHUFELT. (Another thanks to another Jim!) I do especially appreciate parent names, baptism info, etc. for spouses since those are the families I know less about -- and of course that elusive marriage-and-children information for women! Here are a few additions from my side, with a bit of "color commentary;" (A) Justus Howland Van Wie b. 1839 married Helen WOOD b. 1842. Children: John Van Wie (1872-d.bef.1900), and Isabel Howland Van Wie (b. May 1875) who married Bertram L. FLETCHER. The Fletchers, who lived in Brooklyn, corresponded with my grandfather Van Wie, mid-20th century, about Van Wie genealogy; Mrs. Fletcher was a DAR member. In 1897-98 "Lain's Directory" of Brooklyn lists "VAN WIE Jas H, h 654 St. Mark's Ave" and [his brother] "VAN WIE Justus H capt, h 654 St. Mark's Ave." In 1900 census: Father "Justice" Van Wie, Mfg, Freight T--, Owns Home, Free of Mortgage. Wife Helen, marriage of 29 years, enumerated as having 1 birth, 1 child living. Mother Elizabeth, age 87, enumerated as having 10 births, 10 children living. Two servants also in household. Brooklyn Ward 24, Kings Co, New York - 654 St. Mark's Roll: T623 1062; Page: 12B; Enumeration District: 416. ----- (B) David Henry Van Wie (1813-1886) & Elizabeth (Van Schaack) had a fourth child, Gertrude "Gertie" Van Wie b. 1849, who married Luman BRANDOW (1845-1919), I learned via Annette Campbell of this site, and they had two daughters, Bessie Brandow and Edna Brandow. ----- (C) Judith Ann Van Wie b. 1815 married Jacob G.D. BRANDOW b. abt 1800, and they had a son, Edwin D. Brandow. ----- (D) Ambrose August Van Wie (1818-1871) married Naomi Jane BLOSSOM b. 1825, per a descendant living today. I have some other descendants, from him & from my own additional research. If interested, ask. Regards & thanks again! Susan Kastan "James Brady" <brady.j@att.net> wrote: >Hi Susan, > >Most of this is found on Sylvia's website and should help you flesh out what you have on the John Van Wie family. ... __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp

SNYDER and HALENBECK Searching for information about Cornelius D. Snyder and Alida Catherine Halenbeck (sp?). Cornelius was born about 1823 in Schoharie or Greene County. He died Sept. 15, 1864 at Andersonville Prison after being captured by the Confederacy while he was serving in the 7th NY Heavy Artillery. Alida was born abt 1832 in Greene Co. and died Dec. 25, 1879. She is buried at Presbyterian Cemetery, Livingstonville, Broome Township, Schoharie County. Cornelius and Alida were married April 1, 1848 in Broome, Schoharie County. I am lost on the parentage of each. Cornelius may have been related to Peter A. Snyder (mentioned in Beers History of Greene County). Peter A. Snyder moved back and forth between Durham and Broome. One of the moves was made from Broome to Durham near the time of Cornelius's birth (Beers does not mention a son named Cornelius). Alida's gravestone is located next to a gravestone of Anna Snyder, wife of Addison Hollenbeck, born June 15, 1825, died June 1, 1897. Is Anna a sister of Cornelius Snyder and/or Addison a brother of Alida? Children of Corneius and Alida were: Maranda C. Caroline Maria Catharine Charles H Christina Lorenzo Dow (my 2nd gr grandfather) Levi D Mary Catharine Thanks to all, Doug Boyer dgboyer@charter.net http://www.caverdoug.com/doug.htm

"Sylvia Hasenkopf" <esi@francomm.com> wrote: >Susan, I've done a fair amount of research on the Howlands - where do you tie in? Sylvia, I'm doing overall research on VAN WIE families. Always interested in networking with descendants, collaterals, or spousal families to fill in blanks. No Howland of whom I'm aware is in my direct ancestry. However: Elizabeth Mary Howland (1812-1903) married John Van Wie (1808-1873) in Greene Co, and I believe both spouses were also born in Greene Co. John's father was John Van Wie (1787-1853) who married Elizabeth Spoor. This John was a younger brother of my great-great-great grandfather Andrew Van Wie (1774-1826). Both were sons of a two-VW marriage, (Capt) John A. Van Wie (1747-1797) & Alida Van Wie (b. abt 1750 d. 1843) of Albany County. A priority now on my research agenda is descendants of Capt. John A. & Alida (Van Wie) Van Wie, and geography of moves within & beyond Albany County. Within this, Greene County-related questions of interest include: 1. Learn about the BERGAMINI who married Eliz (Spoor) & John VW's daughter Malinda/Linda (1854-1936), and descendants. At 1900 census Malinda appears w/three Bergamini sons. She is husbandless but marked as married, on Warren Street in Athens in household w/sisters Anna Van Wie (head, single) and Jennie Van Hoesen (marked married but also no husband in household). Per 1900 census, Malinda's son Willie Bergamini was b. June 1886 in Italy, John Bergamini b. Aug 1887 in NY, and Herbert M. Bergamini b. Nov 1889. Your online records for Athens Rural cemetery show Malinda buried there, but no husband. Also Herbert Bergamini (Col. US Army WWI & WWII; Ashes) & wife; plus an Elizabeth Howland Bergamini (1892-1897). Meanwhile other "spot" research tells me John Van Wie Bergamini became an architect, known especially during the first half of the 20th century for church and university buildings in East Asia including China, Japan (Tokyo Union Church) and the Philippines. Intriguing, all of this, and I'd love to know more! 2. Find church and/or other documentation, plus more reliable clues, to untangle conflicting accounts of WHICH "Helena VAN WIE" married Jacob HALLENBECK (HOLLENBECK) and clarify migration (reportedly about 1817) to Indiana (where they used the Hollenbeck form of name), descendants, etc. a. Alida (Van Wie) & John A. Van Wie had a daughter Helena Van Wie, born 17 Aug 1771 & baptized at Albany DRC, 25 Aug 1771. a. Catharina (Lansing) & Gerett Van Wie (brother of Alida VW, above) had a daughter Helena Van Wie, baptized at Albany DRC, 27 July 1772. Each of these Helena VW's is claimed, in different genealogies, to marry "Jacob Hallenbeck" (or Hollenbeck) who died in Scott County, Indiana 14 Oct 1842. His widow, whose given/nickname varies across accounts, appears as late as 1860 census in Scott Co, living w/a daughter. Marriage date is variously approximated 1791-1793-1800. Marriage location sometimes given as New Salem, Albany Co, NY. Sometimes Jacob's parents are identified as Mareytie Van Buskirk & Jan Jacobse Hallenbeck, and his birth or christening as 16 Dec 1770 in Greene Co. Lists of children vary depending on the source in number, birth dates & locations. Documentation or other good leads welcome. Thanks, Susan __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp

Researching these families that were primarily from the Ashland/Windham area. Lee, Brownell, Currie, Christian, Tompkins, Benjamin, Cole, Bagley, Stimson/Stimpson, Benham, Tiel, Wiers. Sue Brown

Hi Jim, Yes, we do seem to cross paths often. I only had this because I was researching some of the Spoor lines and this Van Wie line was relatively easy to trace. Do you have anything on-line for the Shufelt family? I'm going through the Kinderhook baptisms and can't easily figure out who all the Shufelts are. They must have migrated from further south in Columbia County. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Jim Groat [mailto:jgroat1@midsouth.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 5:36 PM To: NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [GREENE COUNTY] Roll Call VAN WIE spouses Jim, Hi again! We do keep bumping into one another don't we? Of course the Shufelt -- Van Wie marriage caught my eye and provided me with a bit more background on Helen Celie Van Wie. I didn't have the exact wedding date or place prior to this. This is part of what I currently have in my draft: ---------------------------- Sellick Edgar SHUFELT, the son of Peter Shufelt and Sarah Jane Wood, was born August 4, 1842. He married in 1870, Helen Celia Van Wie, born June 8, 1845, and maintained a clothing business in Albany. Sellick died May 11, 1896, and was buried in Riverside Cemetery, Coxsackie, New York. The 1920 Federal Census of Albany shows Helen, age 74, living with her daughter and son-in-law, Elmer and Mae Passenger. Helen died May 2, 1933, and she also was buried in Riverside Cemetery. They had at least three children, only one of whom survived in 1900. 1) Edgar Baxter SHUFELT: born November 25, 1872. 2) Van Wie SHUFELT: born October 15, 1874. 3) Celia Mae SHUFELT: born March 31, 1886. ---------------------------- I have details on their children and grandchildren if you find it of interest. Just give me a shout. Regards, Jim Groat

I am new to this list. I am searching for Williams, Hotaling/Houghtaling, Powell, Armstrong, McCabe, Vandenbergh, VanLoan/VanLoon, Carman, Ham, VanDeusen, Whitbeck, VanSlyke in Greene County, NY.

Still on the hunt for family of Hezekiah Milliken and wife, Mary Perry Harris. Their son, Hezekiah was born in Greene County and he married his wife, Sophia Coon there. Name was later changed to Milkins by some of the family. Sheila White ----- Original Message ----- From: "peigi mulligan" <pmulligan@hvc.rr.com> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Roll call! > > Researching: > HERRICK, CROSWELL, CURTIS/S. > > I enjoyed reading all the responses! > Peigi > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sylvia Hasenkopf" <esi@francomm.com> > To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 3:26 PM > Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] Roll call! > > >> The list has been pretty quiet lately, and if your summer was as crazy as > mine, that is not surprising! Let's kick start the process and sharing of > info by doing a roll call. There are new visitors to the site. >> >> I am researching the following families: >> Lennon, Blaisdell, Finch, Layman, Olmsted, Lewis, Rushmore, Wilbur, >> Noble, > Wilson etc. families >> >> willing to share info >> Sylvia Hasenkopf >> >> >> ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== >> Your on-line source for Greene County history and genealogy. Stop on by > and find your lost link! >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 >> >> ============================== >> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> New content added every business day. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >> > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Your resource site for Greene County Cemeteries, Biographies, Censuses, > Wills and so much more! Check us out! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Jim, Hi again! We do keep bumping into one another don't we? Of course the Shufelt -- Van Wie marriage caught my eye and provided me with a bit more background on Helen Celie Van Wie. I didn't have the exact wedding date or place prior to this. This is part of what I currently have in my draft: ---------------------------- Sellick Edgar SHUFELT, the son of Peter Shufelt and Sarah Jane Wood, was born August 4, 1842. He married in 1870, Helen Celia Van Wie, born June 8, 1845, and maintained a clothing business in Albany. Sellick died May 11, 1896, and was buried in Riverside Cemetery, Coxsackie, New York. The 1920 Federal Census of Albany shows Helen, age 74, living with her daughter and son-in-law, Elmer and Mae Passenger. Helen died May 2, 1933, and she also was buried in Riverside Cemetery. They had at least three children, only one of whom survived in 1900. 1) Edgar Baxter SHUFELT: born November 25, 1872. 2) Van Wie SHUFELT: born October 15, 1874. 3) Celia Mae SHUFELT: born March 31, 1886. ---------------------------- I have details on their children and grandchildren if you find it of interest. Just give me a shout. Regards, Jim Groat -----Original Message----- From: James Brady [mailto:brady.j@att.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 12:01 PM To: NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [GREENE COUNTY] Roll Call VAN WIE spouses I sent this to the list before, but it didn't seem to go through. 1. John1 Van Wie; born circa 31 Oct 1783; married Elizabeth Spoor, daughter of Dirrik Spoor and Judikje Siberse, 28 Dec 1806 at Reformed Church, Coxsackie, Greene County, New York; died 3 Nov 1853; buried at Spoor Cemetery, Coxsackie, Greene County, New York. Elizabeth Spoor was baptized on 20 Jun 1778 at Reformed Church, Coxsackie, Greene County, New York. She died either 3 Feb 1862 or 3 Nov 1862. She was buried at Spoor Cemetery, Coxsackie, Greene County, New York. She appears as one of 7 free white females in the 1790 census in the household of Dirrik Spoor at Coxsackie, Albany County, New York. She witnessed the baptism of Coenradt Jansen in 1802 at Reformed Church, Coxsackie, Greene County, New York. She witnessed the baptism of Dirk Lampman in 1803 at Reformed Church, Coxsackie, Greene County, New York. Children of John1 Van Wie and Elizabeth Spoor were as follows: 2 i. John2 Van Wie, born 7 May 1808; married Elizabeth Mary Howland. 3 ii. Derrick Van Wie, born 9 May 1809; married Elsie Spoor. 4 iii. David Henry Van Wie, born 2 Feb 1813; married Elizabeth Van Schaack. iv. Ambrose Augustus Van Wie; born 21 Aug 1818; baptized 27 Sep 1818 at Reformed Church, Coxsackie, Greene County, New York. v. Judith Ann Van Wie. Generation Two 2. John2 Van Wie (John1); born 7 May 1808; baptized 1808 at Reformed Church, Coxsackie, Greene County, New York; married Elizabeth Mary Howland; died 1873; buried at Athens Rural Cemetery, Athens, Greene County, New York. Elizabeth Mary Howland was born in 1812. She was baptized on 15 Apr 1832 at Trinity Episcopal Church, Athens, Greene County, New York. She died in 1903. She was buried at Athens Rural Cemetery, Athens, Greene County, New York. Children of John2 Van Wie and Elizabeth Mary Howland were as follows: i. John A.3 Van Wie; born 1837; died 11 May 1914 at Athens, Greene County, New York; buried at Athens Rural Cemetery, Athens, Greene County, New York. ii. Justus H. Van Wie; born 1839; died 1915; buried at Athens Rural Cemetery, Athens, Greene County, New York. iii. Ann A. Van Wie; born 1841; died 1926; buried at Athens Rural Cemetery, Athens, Greene County, New York. iv. Elizabeth M. Van Wie; born 1843; died 1909; buried at Athens Rural Cemetery, Athens, Greene County, New York. She was also known as Mary Elizabeth. v. James B. Van Wie; born 1845; died 1920; buried at Athens Rural Cemetery, Athens, Greene County, New York. vi. Ellen F. Van Wie; born 1847; died 1913; buried at Athens Rural Cemetery, Athens, Greene County, New York. vii. Jane W. Van Wie; born circa 1849; married (--?--) Van Hoesen; died 1933; buried at Athens Rural Cemetery, Athens, Greene County, New York. She was also known as Jennie. viii. Beulah L. Van Wie; born 1851; died 1934; buried at Athens Rural Cemetery, Athens, Greene County, New York. ix. Malinda H. Van Wie; born 1854; married (--?--) Bergamini; died 1936; buried at Athens Rural Cemetery, Athens, Greene County, New York. x. Kate Van Wie; born 1858; married (--?--) Jameson; died 1936; buried at Athens Rural Cemetery, Athens, Greene County, New York. 3. Derrick2 Van Wie (John1); born 9 May 1809; born 7 May 1810; baptized 1810 at Reformed Church, Coxsackie, Greene County, New York; married Elsie Spoor, daughter of Casper Spoor and Elizabeth/Rebecca Provost, Jun 1842 at Reformed Church, Coxsackie, Greene County, New York; died 2 Feb 1890 at age 80; buried at Spoor Cemetery, Coxsackie, Greene County, New York. He was also known as Richard. Elsie Spoor was born on 22 Mar 1815. She was baptized on 23 Jul 1815 at Trinity Episcopal Church, Athens, Greene County, New York. She died on 24 Nov 1874 at age 59. She was buried at Spoor Cemetery, Coxsackie, Greene County, New York. She was also known as Alcha. Children of Derrick2 Van Wie and Elsie Spoor were: 5 i. John Augusta3 Van Wie, born 19 Jun 1842; married Josephine Richtmeyer. 4. David Henry2 Van Wie (John1); born 2 Feb 1813; baptized 27 Jun 1813 at Reformed Church, Coxsackie, Greene County, New York; married Elizabeth Van Schaack, daughter of Aaron J. Van Schaack and Magdalin Witbeek, 12 Dec 1839 at Reformed Church, Coxsackie, Greene County, New York; died 1886; buried at Riverside Cemetery, Coxsackie, Greene County, New York. Elizabeth Van Schaack was born on 4 Apr 1804. She was baptized in 1804 at Reformed Church, Coxsackie, Greene County, New York. She married Isaac Rosa, son of Storm Roosa and Elizabeth Lampman, on 27 Nov 1827 at Reformed Church, Coxsackie, Greene County, New York. She died in 1872. She was buried at Riverside Cemetery, Coxsackie, Greene County, New York. Children of David Henry2 Van Wie and Elizabeth Van Schaack were as follows: i. John B.3 Van Wie; born 1840; married Margaret H. McCarty; died 1916; buried at Riverside Cemetery, Coxsackie, Greene County, New York. ii. Anna E. Van Wie; married Hugh R. Jolley 25 Aug 1869 at Reformed Church, Coxsackie, Greene County, New York. iii. Helen Celia Van Wie; married Edgar S. Shufelt 2 Jun 1870 at Reformed Church, Coxsackie, Greene County, New York. Generation Three 5. John Augusta3 Van Wie (Derrick2, John1); born 19 Jun 1842; baptized 16 Apr 1843 at First Reformed Church, Athens, Greene County, New York; married Josephine Richtmeyer before 1876; died 21 Sep 1890 at age 48; buried at Spoor Cemetery, Coxsackie, Greene County, New York. Josephine Richtmeyer was born on 13 Nov 1847. She died on 6 May 1920 at age 72. She was buried at Spoor Cemetery, Coxsackie, Greene County, New York. Children of John Augusta3 Van Wie and Josephine Richtmeyer were: i. Elsie May4 Van Wie; born 2 Aug 1876; baptized 28 Aug 1877 at First Reformed Church, Athens, Greene County, New York; married Walter Hallenbeck, son of Ezra Hallenbeck and Elizabeth Brandow, 8 Dec 1897 at First Reformed Church, Athens, Greene County, New York. Jim ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== Your on-line source for Greene County history and genealogy. 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Greetings, I haven't made any headway at all for this family's years in Windham, but I keep hoping :) ROBERTSON,per the 1860 census: George, age 45, cabinet maker, b. Nova Scotia Sarah, 35, wife, b. NY Anna M., 16, b. NY Mary A., 14, b. NY George W., 12, b. NY (this is the line I'm tracing) Adelaide, 9, b. NY Charles R., 6, b. NY Emma L., 4, b. NY Jessie E., 1, b. NY In the 1850 census, the family was in Brooklyn, as was George in 1840. By 1870, they have moved to Brick Township, Ocean Co., NJ, and George has died at some point, 1860-70. Most likely, Anna M. (b. ca. 1844) has married, either in NY or NJ. I believe they were Presbyterians. The 1860 census indicates they owned real estate valued at $1200, but I have no idea where. If the census reflects any sequence of addresses, the Robertsons are listed between an Irish blacksmith's family (surname seems to start with a K) and a cooper named Daniel Jones. These Robertsons are not to be confused with the longer established family of Col. George Robertson. Mine don't seem to show up in any of the Rootsweb databases for Greene Co. Any suggestions, leads, etc., will be most gratefully accepted. Thanks for starting the roll call! Barbara Proko New Britain, CT ______________________________________________________ Yahoo! for Good Donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/

Does any one know if there are divorce records from 1840s?

Ed, the records are files in the Records storage room in Catskill, just down the street from the new County Building. To get access, call the County Clerk. Do you need her number? They are not indexed, so I've been told. Sylvia ----- Original Message ----- From: <EdKohinke@aol.com> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 2:36 PM Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] Divorces > It appears that two of my ancestors divorced, most likely in Greene County > in the 1870's. According to one source, the "supreme" court for a county > in > NY has handled divorces since 1847. Can someone tell me which court in > Greene > County would have the divorce record I need, if the record exists? > Thanks. > Ed Kohinke > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Your resource site for Greene County Cemeteries, Biographies, Censuses, > Wills and so much more! Check us out! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

Researching Van Dyke, Brandow, Edwards, and June/Jeune in the 1800's. I have lots on Van Dyke, but not much on the others. Thanks, Sylvia. I'm still working on the obituaries. Laurie Ray Sandwich, Mass.