I guess I didn't phrase my question properly. By deeds etc., I meant those we've paid to get for our genealogical research. I wouldn't want them to burn up in a fire or be lost in a flood such as Katrina. Thanks. Barbara -----Original Message----- From: Ralph Strong [mailto:rastrong@cablespeed.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 9:40 PM To: NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] question >I have a question for the list: where do you keep all your deeds, wills, and > vital records? I was thinking of copying them and putting the originals in a > safe deposit box. With all the money we all have tied up in these things, > I'd rather be safe than sorry. Any ideas would be most welcome. Thanks. > > > > Barbara I live in Maryland and feel safe in keeping my documents in a safe deposit box. My lawyer also has a copy of wills, powers of attorney, etc. In Maryland, the state does not seal your safe deposit box upon death. I have put my daughter on the list to access the box. If you live in a state that seals the box upon your death, this is not a good idea. Ralph Strong Glen Burnie, MD ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== Over 200 Greene County cemeteries fully transcribed - look up your ancestor! http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

I would be interested in information about Catherine Hellicus, as I only have 4 wives for Asa. He seems to have been very unlucky in the marriage arena.... I have that he married Polly Felt on Jan. 27,1805 and that he married Mary M. Towner in 1810. I have Margaret Johnson and Sally listed, but no details on the marriages. I have that Mary and Asa had 5 children between 1815 and 1825, two of whom were twins. I have that he had 3 children with Polly Felt, and I decend from her son Ephraim; however, I don't see how the birth date on the second son, Alvin, could be right as it is Dec. 1810 and either that or the marriage date to Mary has to be wrong. I don't have any children for Margaret or Sally, nor do I know Sally's last name. Do you know that he was a drummer boy in the war of 1812 and his drum is in the Pratt Museum in Prattsville, Greene Co., NY? I went there to see it this summer, but it was "in storage". Quite disappointing. I would appreciate any information you can share and will share any that I have that could be helpful to you. Thanks! Mignon "Your vision will only come clear when you look into your heart. Who looks outside, dreams. Who looks inside, awakens. Carl Jung ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Brower" <jmbb@webjogger.net> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Roll call! > Hi Jackie--I corresponded with Mildred Schanz of Montana back in 1989-- > she is a desc'd. of Eliphalet Lord, father of Asa. She has 5 wives listed > for Asa; Polly Felt, Polly Towner, Margaret Johnson, Catherine Hellicus > and Sally--?. Will be happy to send[snail mail!] family record sheets and > other material she sent to me. Joan Brower > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jackie Towner" <jac@fmtc.com> > To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 10:38 PM > Subject: Fw: [GREENE COUNTY] Roll call! > > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jackie Towner" <jac@fmtc.com> >> To: "Sylvia Magin" <smagin@degraff-foy.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 11:07 AM >> Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Roll call! >> >> >>>I am interested in Asa Lord's family. According to Hubbard's Families of >>>Goshen CT, Elijah Towner's daughter, Mary (Polly) married Asa Lord. >>>Through prior correspondence I learned that Asa had several wives. I also >>>heard of the 'indian' story about one of his wives. The story had >>>something to do with one of the children's names being Loammi. Mary >>>/Polly Towner had a brother named Loammi, which is a name from the bible. >>>This name has been passed along in the Towner family. My father-in-law's >>>middle name was Loammi. Does anyone have a list of all Asa's children? >>>and his wives and any dates? Mary or Polly was born 29 Jan 1786 in >>>Goshen, CT and married Asa Lord 1810. >>> >>> Jackie Towner >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Sylvia Magin" <smagin@degraff-foy.com> >>> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 7:40 AM >>> Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Roll call! >>> >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I'm another Lord descendant, like Tom McHugh and Mignon Matthews. >>>> >>>> Some of my other ancestors are Story, Holdridge, West, Gaylord, >>>> Fanning, >>>> Richtmeyer, Newcomb, Chapman, Blaisdell, to name a few. >>>> >>>> I grew up in Catskill (a long time ago!) >>>> >>>> Sylvia Story Magin >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: <VTvending@aol.com> >>>> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 9:19 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] Roll call! >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hello Cousin! >>>>> >>>>> My Great -Grandfather, Clarence O'Brien was you GGF's brother. We're >>>>> definitely researching the same tree. >>>>> I have a great deal of info on the Lord family (Angeline Lord- our >>>>> G-G-Grandmother), but have been unable to get too much on the >>>>> O'Bryans. >>>> I've pieced >>>>> together some census info, but there are gaps in the data, especially >>>> with >>>>> Thomas O'Bryan's ancestry. >>>>> By the way, I've always been told (and there are members of this >>>>> branch of >>>>> the Lord tree who have been told the same) that Angeline Lord's >>>>> G-G-Mother >>>> was >>>>> a full-blooded Native American. The particular tribe, as well as >>>>> documentation of this, is missing. Have you heard of this? >>>>> I'd be glad to share any info that I have with you, and would be >>>> interested >>>>> in any O'Bryan info that you have. >>>>> >>>>> Best wishes, >>>>> >>>>> Tom McHugh >>>>> Alburg, VT >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== >>>>> Over 150 family bibles of Greene County families on-line now. 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You don't want to put anything in a safe deposit box that your family might need to settle your estate. As soon as the bank knows someone has died they lock out everyone and sometimes it takes years for heirs to get the box unlocked. Your will needs to be in your home. I keep mine in a fireproof box with my deeds, life insurance policies, etc. A friend of mine also keeps a copy taped to the wall next to his washing machine. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Craddock" <goldbabe@tampabay.rr.com> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 7:55 PM Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] question > I have a question for the list: where do you keep all your deeds, wills, and > vital records? I was thinking of copying them and putting the originals in a > safe deposit box. With all the money we all have tied up in these things, > I'd rather be safe than sorry. Any ideas would be most welcome. Thanks. > > > > Barbara > > > > Researching Briggs, Stone,Raymond ,Mendelsohn > > and allied families in > > Albany,Greene,Columbia, Kings and New York Counties > > > > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Over 200 Greene County cemeteries fully transcribed - look up your ancestor! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > >

>I have a question for the list: where do you keep all your deeds, wills, and > vital records? I was thinking of copying them and putting the originals in a > safe deposit box. With all the money we all have tied up in these things, > I'd rather be safe than sorry. Any ideas would be most welcome. Thanks. > > > > Barbara I live in Maryland and feel safe in keeping my documents in a safe deposit box. My lawyer also has a copy of wills, powers of attorney, etc. In Maryland, the state does not seal your safe deposit box upon death. I have put my daughter on the list to access the box. If you live in a state that seals the box upon your death, this is not a good idea. Ralph Strong Glen Burnie, MD

>I hesitate to chime in because I jusat have one fact, and no follow up. In > the hills above Vesper, Town of Tully, Onondaga Co NY there is a Strong > Road. It was named for an Ansel Strong who bought a lot of land in 1844, > and sold it off in sections, the last to a William Strong in 1867. I > believe my new house built in 1993 is on part of the land he owned back > then. I have never studied his family, but you might find records in > Syracuse related to him good luck. JOHN C VAN BUSKIRK > http://www.geocities.com/vanbus1/ > jvanbus1@twcny.rr.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ralph Strong" <rastrong@cablespeed.com> > To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 4:34 PM > Subject: Re: RE:[greene county] Thanks for the info. One of the problems is that my William Augustus Strong died at Black Rock, NY while in the Army in 1814. He migrated to Atwater, OH in 1806. His wife had gone back to Durham, CT and died there also in 1814 and is buried among the Durham Strong's of the era. His son, my G grandfather was orphaned in Ohio. He was sent "East" (I assume CT) for a couple of years education and then was bound out to a farmer in Ohio. He may have returned later to NY to learn the trade of building barns. While it is interesting to track later families, it is unlikely to solve the big issue - the parents of William Augustus Strong (1783- 1814). Ralph Strong Glen Burnie, MD

Hi Lance and Sylvia Have you been in touch with Ken Calkins? I hope this address is still valid? _kencalkins@prodigy.net_ (mailto:kencalkins@prodigy.net) . My mom's maiden name is Calkins, and I just happen to have Ken's compilation - CALKINS FAMILY IN AMERICA - published in 2000. I scanned through it last night and found only two named William Calkins, born around 1787, who were lacking additional information. Page 32, William Calkins, b. abt. 1788, Sharon, Litchfield, CT, son of Justice Calkins and Hannah Heath. Justice was married twice 1) Sarah Eliot 2) Hannah Heath His known children are: Justice, Silas, Anna, Sylvanus, Elizabeth, Jonathan, Obadiah, Sarah, William (above). It looks like all were born in Sharon, CT. Page 46, William Calkins, b. Nov. 25, 1786, Northeast, Dutchess Co., NY, son of Elisha Calkins and Dorcas Van Dusen It looks like Elisha moved to Salsbury, CT after William was born. OOH, I didn't notice this until now?????? William's youngest brother's name is Ira. He was b. Jun 10, 1805 and d. May 1, 1812. Unfortunately, no birth or death locations are listed. This might be worth researching!!! Here are Elisha and Dorcas' children who listed in the book. Sally Ann: m. ____ Chamberlain William: (above) Nellie: June 8, 1789, Salsbury CT - Apr. 4, 1824 m. ______ Baldwin Hiram: Apr. 4, 1792, Salbury CT - June 1875, Michigan (information continues) Anson: Sept. 6, 1797 - Aug. 20, 1805 Horace: b. Aug. 7, 1799 Phoebe: Aug 20, 1802 - Sept. 18, 1823 Ira: (above) Elisha's second wife's name is Phoebe ______. Elisha died in Mentz, NY. Do you have any idea where Mentz is located? Maybe Ken Calkins knows who the source is for Hiram???? Cindy In a message dated 9/27/2005 2:22:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time, esi@francomm.com writes: Lance, I find that there is a tombstone for William Calkins, in Stonebridge cemetery in the Town of Durham. He died August 16, 1830, aged 43. His wife, Betsey Barker died May 8, 1826, aged 34y. They are listed on the same stone as Ira Calkins and his wife, likely a son. I checked and there was no will for William - no big surprise as he was only 43 and probably did not anticipate that he would die so young. Now, it is very probable that William had children, and may, in fact have had another wife after Betsey died. It would definitely be worthwhile to check the Letters of Administration to see if papers were filed as William likely died intestate (without a will). His heirs would be listed as well as a disposition of his estate/debts. Also, there is a strong possibilty that William had minor children (under the age of 21) therefore there should be guardianship papers as well, even if there was a wife (women were rarely guardians at that timeframe) Don't know where you live, but the documents would be at the Vedder Library. If you are interested in acquiring my services to do this research please email me privately at esi@francomm.com Sylvia ----- Original Message ----- From: <lance.ware@cox.net> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 4:22 PM Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] James CALKINS, b. 1819 >I believe I've posted this before in the past in some form or other, but >got no response at that time. Since one of the listers has suggested that >we post details and maybe someone might be able to work on it, here it is >again with the latest info I have. > > James CALKINS, born 18 Jun 1819 in Greene County (according to 1855 New > York census). He is found in the 1850 and 1855 census in Hudson, Columbia, > NY. Later he moved to Monmouth County, NJ where he died in 1909. He > married (1) Elizabeth TEN BROECK, 14 Sep 1842 in Germantown, Columbia, NY, > and (2) Sarah ___, ca. 1854. The only CALKINS (or variant) listed in the > 1820 census in Greene County is William CALKINS of Durham (3 males <10, 1 > males 26-45, 1 females <10, 1 females 26-45, 1 manufacturers), so he is a > candidate for the father of my James. I've been unable to find any further > info linking James with William or anyone else in Greene County. James has > a death cert, but it does not list his parents. > > Can anyone tell me anything further about this William CALKINS of Durham? > Anyone have any records of a James CALKINS born in Greene County in 1819 > or thereabouts? > > Thanks, > Lance Ware > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > The Diary of John Barr, Ensign in the Revolutionary War. Come read about > our revolutionary past from the eyes of one who lived it! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. 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Mentz is located in Cayuga Co., NY, near Cayuga lake. Cayuga Co. is right next to Onondaga Co., where Syracuse is located. I think the prodigy.net email address is no longer valid because if I remember correctly, prodigy no longer exists. Sharon -----Original Message----- From: SHINDEI2@aol.com To: NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 21:01:05 EDT Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] James CALKINS, b. 1819 Hi Lance and Sylvia Have you been in touch with Ken Calkins? I hope this address is still valid? _kencalkins@prodigy.net_ (mailto:kencalkins@prodigy.net) . My mom's maiden name is Calkins, and I just happen to have Ken's compilation - CALKINS FAMILY IN AMERICA - published in 2000. I scanned through it last night and found only two named William Calkins, born around 1787, who were lacking additional information. Page 32, William Calkins, b. abt. 1788, Sharon, Litchfield, CT, son of Justice Calkins and Hannah Heath. Justice was married twice 1) Sarah Eliot 2) Hannah Heath His known children are: Justice, Silas, Anna, Sylvanus, Elizabeth, Jonathan, Obadiah, Sarah, William (above). It looks like all were born in Sharon, CT. Page 46, William Calkins, b. Nov. 25, 1786, Northeast, Dutchess Co., NY, son of Elisha Calkins and Dorcas Van Dusen It looks like Elisha moved to Salsbury, CT after William was born. OOH, I didn't notice this until now?????? William's youngest brother's name is Ira. He was b. Jun 10, 1805 and d. May 1, 1812. Unfortunately, no birth or death locations are listed. This might be worth researching!!! Here are Elisha and Dorcas' children who listed in the book. Sally Ann: m. ____ Chamberlain William: (above) Nellie: June 8, 1789, Salsbury CT - Apr. 4, 1824 m. ______ Baldwin Hiram: Apr. 4, 1792, Salbury CT - June 1875, Michigan (information continues) Anson: Sept. 6, 1797 - Aug. 20, 1805 Horace: b. Aug. 7, 1799 Phoebe: Aug 20, 1802 - Sept. 18, 1823 Ira: (above) Elisha's second wife's name is Phoebe ______. Elisha died in Mentz, NY. Do you have any idea where Mentz is located? Maybe Ken Calkins knows who the source is for Hiram???? Cindy In a message dated 9/27/2005 2:22:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time, esi@francomm.com writes: Lance, I find that there is a tombstone for William Calkins, in Stonebridge cemetery in the Town of Durham. He died August 16, 1830, aged 43. His wife, Betsey Barker died May 8, 1826, aged 34y. They are listed on the same stone as Ira Calkins and his wife, likely a son. I checked and there was no will for William - no big surprise as he was only 43 and probably did not anticipate that he would die so young. Now, it is very probable that William had children, and may, in fact have had another wife after Betsey died. It would definitely be worthwhile to check the Letters of Administration to see if papers were filed as William likely died intestate (without a will). His heirs would be listed as well as a disposition of his estate/debts. Also, there is a strong possibilty that William had minor children (under the age of 21) therefore there should be guardianship papers as well, even if there was a wife (women were rarely guardians at that timeframe) Don't know where you live, but the documents would be at the Vedder Library. If you are interested in acquiring my services to do this research please email me privately at esi@francomm.com Sylvia ----- Original Message ----- From: <lance.ware@cox.net> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 4:22 PM Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] James CALKINS, b. 1819 >I believe I've posted this before in the past in some form or other, but >got no response at that time. Since one of the listers has suggested that >we post details and maybe someone might be able to work on it, here it is >again with the latest info I have. > > James CALKINS, born 18 Jun 1819 in Greene County (according to 1855 New > York census). He is found in the 1850 and 1855 census in Hudson, Columbia, > NY. Later he moved to Monmouth County, NJ where he died in 1909. He > married (1) Elizabeth TEN BROECK, 14 Sep 1842 in Germantown, Columbia, NY, > and (2) Sarah ___, ca. 1854. The only CALKINS (or variant) listed in the > 1820 census in Greene County is William CALKINS of Durham (3 males <10, 1 > males 26-45, 1 females <10, 1 females 26-45, 1 manufacturers), so he is a > candidate for the father of my James. I've been unable to find any further > info linking James with William or anyone else in Greene County. James has > a death cert, but it does not list his parents. > > Can anyone tell me anything further about this William CALKINS of Durham? > Anyone have any records of a James CALKINS born in Greene County in 1819 > or thereabouts? > > Thanks, > Lance Ware > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > The Diary of John Barr, Ensign in the Revolutionary War. Come read about > our revolutionary past from the eyes of one who lived it! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== Moving in and Moving on - Greene County's Migrations Database - add your families now and make the connection! http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. 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I wouldn't rely too heavily on those CDs. I've heard that they have a failure rate even higher than other types of floppies. As long as the original documents are in a safe place (like a fireproof metal box or your safety deposit box -- the ones you get for genealogy wouldn't be a problem even if the box is sealed at death like they are in NY) it's fine to use the computer disks as a backup with multiple copies on different disks or different types of disks. Sharon -----Original Message----- From: bobbidoll123@juno.com To: NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 22:31:17 -0400 Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] question On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 22:09:34 -0400 "Barbara Craddock" <goldbabe@tampabay.rr.com> writes: > I guess I didn't phrase my question properly. By deeds etc., I meant > those > we've paid to get for our genealogical research. I wouldn't want > them to > burn up in a fire or be lost in a flood such as Katrina. > > Thanks. > Barbara > I personally scan them onto my computer. Then I burn CD-ROMs. I do the same for all the old pictures that I get. I just bought a memory stick (that plugs into your USB port, and functions as a drive) that I intend to back it up on also. The memory sticks can be carried on your keychain or around your neck. Bobbi ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== Over 200 Greene County cemeteries fully transcribed - look up your ancestor! http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

I have a question for the list: where do you keep all your deeds, wills, and vital records? I was thinking of copying them and putting the originals in a safe deposit box. With all the money we all have tied up in these things, I'd rather be safe than sorry. Any ideas would be most welcome. Thanks. Barbara Researching Briggs, Stone,Raymond ,Mendelsohn and allied families in Albany,Greene,Columbia, Kings and New York Counties

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Hi Cindy, Thanks for pointing out all this info. Yes, I have been in touch with Ken Calkins in the past. At that time we were unable to draw any conclusions about the various Williams. But, now that I see the Durham cemetery records, the William who died in 1830 seems likely to be the one who was born 1786, son of Elisha and Dorcas (Van Deusen) Calkins (I too noticed the son and brother Ira as very interesting). I have several candidates for a William Calkins who fathered my James, and this has been one of them. I am now pursuing this line further to see what develops. My James's name may have come from his mother's side, since William of Durham married a granddaughter of James Barker, the patroon. Lance > -----Original Message----- > From: SHINDEI2@aol.com [mailto:SHINDEI2@aol.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 06:01 PM > To: NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GREENE COUNTY] James CALKINS, b. 1819 > > > > Hi Lance and Sylvia > > Have you been in touch with Ken Calkins? I hope this address is > still > valid? _kencalkins@prodigy.net_ (mailto:kencalkins@prodigy.net) . > > My mom's maiden name is Calkins, and I just happen to have Ken's > compilation > - CALKINS FAMILY IN AMERICA - published in 2000. > > I scanned through it last night and found only two named William > Calkins, > born around 1787, > who were lacking additional information. > > Page 32, > William Calkins, b. abt. 1788, Sharon, Litchfield, CT, > son of Justice Calkins and Hannah Heath. > > Justice was married twice 1) Sarah Eliot 2) Hannah Heath > His known children are: > Justice, Silas, Anna, Sylvanus, Elizabeth, Jonathan, Obadiah, Sarah, > William > (above). > It looks like all were born in Sharon, CT. > > > Page 46, > William Calkins, b. Nov. 25, 1786, Northeast, Dutchess Co., NY, > son of Elisha Calkins and Dorcas Van Dusen > > It looks like Elisha moved to Salsbury, CT after William was > born. > > OOH, I didn't notice this until now?????? > William's youngest brother's name is Ira. > He was b. Jun 10, 1805 and d. May 1, 1812. > Unfortunately, no birth or death locations are listed. > > This might be worth researching!!! > > Here are Elisha and Dorcas' children who listed in the book. > Sally Ann: m. ____ Chamberlain > William: (above) > Nellie: June 8, 1789, Salsbury CT - Apr. 4, 1824 m. ______ > Baldwin > Hiram: Apr. 4, 1792, Salbury CT - June 1875, Michigan > (information > continues) > Anson: Sept. 6, 1797 - Aug. 20, 1805 > Horace: b. Aug. 7, 1799 > Phoebe: Aug 20, 1802 - Sept. 18, 1823 > Ira: (above) > > Elisha's second wife's name is Phoebe ______. > > Elisha died in Mentz, NY. Do you have any idea where Mentz is > located? > > > Maybe Ken Calkins knows who the source is for Hiram???? > > Cindy > > > > > > > In a message dated 9/27/2005 2:22:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > esi@francomm.com writes: > > Lance, I find that there is a tombstone for William Calkins, in > Stonebridge > cemetery in the Town of Durham. He died August 16, 1830, aged 43. > His wife, > Betsey Barker died May 8, 1826, aged 34y. They are listed on the > same stone > as Ira Calkins and his wife, likely a son. > > I checked and there was no will for William - no big surprise as he > was only > 43 and probably did not anticipate that he would die so young. Now, > it is > very probable that William had children, and may, in fact have had > another > wife after Betsey died. It would definitely be worthwhile to check > the > Letters of Administration to see if papers were filed as William > likely died > > intestate (without a will). His heirs would be listed as well as a > disposition of his estate/debts. Also, there is a strong possibilty > that > William had minor children (under the age of 21) therefore there > should be > guardianship papers as well, even if there was a wife (women were > rarely > guardians at that timeframe) > > Don't know where you live, but the documents would be at the Vedder > Library. > If you are interested in acquiring my services to do this research > please > email me privately at esi@francomm.com > > Sylvia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <lance.ware@cox.net> > To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 4:22 PM > Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] James CALKINS, b. 1819 > > > >I believe I've posted this before in the past in some form or > other, but > >got no response at that time. Since one of the listers has > suggested that > >we post details and maybe someone might be able to work on it, > here it is > >again with the latest info I have. > > > > James CALKINS, born 18 Jun 1819 in Greene County (according to > 1855 New > > York census). He is found in the 1850 and 1855 census in Hudson, > Columbia, > > NY. Later he moved to Monmouth County, NJ where he died in 1909. > He > > married (1) Elizabeth TEN BROECK, 14 Sep 1842 in Germantown, > Columbia, NY, > > and (2) Sarah ___, ca. 1854. The only CALKINS (or variant) listed > in the > > 1820 census in Greene County is William CALKINS of Durham (3 > males <10, 1 > > males 26-45, 1 females <10, 1 females 26-45, 1 manufacturers), so > he is a > > candidate for the father of my James. I've been unable to find > any further > > > info linking James with William or anyone else in Greene County. > James has > > a death cert, but it does not list his parents. > > > > Can anyone tell me anything further about this William CALKINS of > Durham? > > Anyone have any records of a James CALKINS born in Greene County > in 1819 > > or thereabouts? > > > > Thanks, > > Lance Ware > > > > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > > The Diary of John Barr, Ensign in the Revolutionary War. Come > read about > > our revolutionary past from the eyes of one who lived it! > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added > in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. 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I hesitate to chime in because I jusat have one fact, and no follow up. In the hills above Vesper, Town of Tully, Onondaga Co NY there is a Strong Road. It was named for an Ansel Strong who bought a lot of land in 1844, and sold it off in sections, the last to a William Strong in 1867. I believe my new house built in 1993 is on part of the land he owned back then. I have never studied his family, but you might find records in Syracuse related to him good luck. JOHN C VAN BUSKIRK http://www.geocities.com/vanbus1/ jvanbus1@twcny.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph Strong" <rastrong@cablespeed.com> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 4:34 PM Subject: Re: RE:[greene county] > > Thanks for the reply. I have run across Anson Strong from the great Greene > County web page. I have run down all the Strong's I can find in the Two > Durham's who were having families in the 1793 era. I think John Strong, Selah's > brother spent some time in Durham, NY and I saw him listed someplace as one of > the revolutionary war soldiers from Greene County. The rest of the Durham > Strong's who were of the age to have families in the era have families that > would conflict with William's birth. John married a year or so after William's > birth and I have guessed that he might have had a prior marriage or arrangement. > I have looked at the female Strong's also and it doesn't appear that an > illegitimate birth would fit either. William was sworn as a freeman in Durham, > CT in 1803. > > Thanks for the hint. > > Ralph Strong > > > > > Ralph, Possibly the same Strong family you are researching in Durham > > township, is the Strong's that lived > > in Cornwallville (Town of Durham). Strong Road, named from an early Strong > > family, is just outside > > of the town and a few early (one definitely late1700-early 1800's) homes are > > still to be found along the road. > > The earliest on the left as you enter the road from County Route 20. > > Anson Strong came to the township of Durham about 1796 and nephew of > > Selah Strong, one of the > > settlers of Meeting House Hill, near the town of Durham. He was a soldier in > > the War of 1812, Justice of the > > Peace, Town Clerk and school teacher. He was married to Sally Butler and they > > had 6 children. > > > > > > "Zeke" > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ralph Strong" <rastrong@cablespeed.com> > > To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 8:19 PM > > Subject: Re: RE:[greene county] > > > > > >> My interest in Greene County is modest. Strong's migrated from Durham, CT to > >> Durham, NY (Freehold) in the 1790's. We have been searching for my GG > >> granfather William Augustus Strong's parents. He was born in Durham, CT in > >> 1793. By elimination of Strong's in Durham, CT, I believe it is likely that > >> his father was John Strong, a revolutionary soldier and the son of Medad > >> Strong. John Strong's brother Selah migrated to Durham NY and there are > >> indications that John Strong lived there for part of his life. I have been > >> attempting to learn more about John Strong and the possibility that he had a > >> second wife. > >> > >> Ralph Strong > >> Glen Burnie > >> > >> > >> ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > >> Over 150 family bibles of Greene County families on-line now. Track down > >> your lost ancestor! > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > >> > >> ============================== > >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > > Moving in and Moving on - Greene County's Migrations Database - add your > > families now and make the connection! > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Over 1400 pages of Greene County information, fully indexed, to help you find your lost link! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

Thanks for the reply. I have run across Anson Strong from the great Greene County web page. I have run down all the Strong's I can find in the Two Durham's who were having families in the 1793 era. I think John Strong, Selah's brother spent some time in Durham, NY and I saw him listed someplace as one of the revolutionary war soldiers from Greene County. The rest of the Durham Strong's who were of the age to have families in the era have families that would conflict with William's birth. John married a year or so after William's birth and I have guessed that he might have had a prior marriage or arrangement. I have looked at the female Strong's also and it doesn't appear that an illegitimate birth would fit either. William was sworn as a freeman in Durham, CT in 1803. Thanks for the hint. Ralph Strong > Ralph, Possibly the same Strong family you are researching in Durham > township, is the Strong's that lived > in Cornwallville (Town of Durham). Strong Road, named from an early Strong > family, is just outside > of the town and a few early (one definitely late1700-early 1800's) homes are > still to be found along the road. > The earliest on the left as you enter the road from County Route 20. > Anson Strong came to the township of Durham about 1796 and nephew of > Selah Strong, one of the > settlers of Meeting House Hill, near the town of Durham. He was a soldier in > the War of 1812, Justice of the > Peace, Town Clerk and school teacher. He was married to Sally Butler and they > had 6 children. > > > "Zeke" > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ralph Strong" <rastrong@cablespeed.com> > To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 8:19 PM > Subject: Re: RE:[greene county] > > >> My interest in Greene County is modest. Strong's migrated from Durham, CT to >> Durham, NY (Freehold) in the 1790's. We have been searching for my GG >> granfather William Augustus Strong's parents. He was born in Durham, CT in >> 1793. By elimination of Strong's in Durham, CT, I believe it is likely that >> his father was John Strong, a revolutionary soldier and the son of Medad >> Strong. John Strong's brother Selah migrated to Durham NY and there are >> indications that John Strong lived there for part of his life. I have been >> attempting to learn more about John Strong and the possibility that he had a >> second wife. >> >> Ralph Strong >> Glen Burnie >> >> >> ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== >> Over 150 family bibles of Greene County families on-line now. Track down >> your lost ancestor! >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Moving in and Moving on - Greene County's Migrations Database - add your > families now and make the connection! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Ralph, Possibly the same Strong family you are researching in Durham township, is the Strong's that lived in Cornwallville (Town of Durham). Strong Road, named from an early Strong family, is just outside of the town and a few early (one definitely late1700-early 1800's) homes are still to be found along the road. The earliest on the left as you enter the road from County Route 20. Anson Strong came to the township of Durham about 1796 and nephew of Selah Strong, one of the settlers of Meeting House Hill, near the town of Durham. He was a soldier in the War of 1812, Justice of the Peace, Town Clerk and school teacher. He was married to Sally Butler and they had 6 children. "Zeke" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph Strong" <rastrong@cablespeed.com> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 8:19 PM Subject: Re: RE:[greene county] > My interest in Greene County is modest. Strong's migrated from Durham, CT > to Durham, NY (Freehold) in the 1790's. We have been searching for my GG > granfather William Augustus Strong's parents. He was born in Durham, CT > in 1793. By elimination of Strong's in Durham, CT, I believe it is likely > that his father was John Strong, a revolutionary soldier and the son of > Medad Strong. John Strong's brother Selah migrated to Durham NY and there > are indications that John Strong lived there for part of his life. I have > been attempting to learn more about John Strong and the possibility that > he had a second wife. > > Ralph Strong > Glen Burnie > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Over 150 family bibles of Greene County families on-line now. Track down > your lost ancestor! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Hell0, I am completely green at transcribing but if I can be taught the ins and outs, I would like to help also.

Dear Sylvia, Sorry it has taken so long to post this message. Has been in my heart to do it since I got back from NY. However, lots of family things and wedding planning and a recent trip to Indiana got in the way. I want everyone to know what a WONDERFUL time Dan and I had when we visited the Catskills. Meeting my cousin Fran and husband John Monahan was a most delightful and enjoyable time. It was one of the best things I can list in my life. They were so warm and loving to us. Fran took us to all the grave sites we knew of and I touched my past and my family. Fran was a real trooper taking us all over. The next wonderful thing was meeting Sylvia. You don't know how much we enjoyed visiting with you and the fact you took time from your busy life to come by and see us. I could have talked to you for days. And folks she is a lot younger than I thought . She has such a vast store house of knowledge and focus on the geneology that I expected to meet someone older. She is also quite cute. Fran took us to the Vedder library and eveyone there was such a help going above and beyond for us. While there I got to meet Jane Freese. Jane you will always have my gratitude for getting Fran and I together. If it wasn't for you we wouldn't have found each other. The food at Sylvia's mother in laws Inn was terrific. As well as the other places we stopped. To sum it all up, it was the trip my heart was longing for and I was not disappointed at all. The only disappointment was we had onlly a few days to stay. Perhaps, next time it will be longer. Thanks and love to everyone I met especially Sylvia. Virginia Sanok Love is Silence when Words would Hurt. __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com

Sylvia, Thanks, I will do this tomorrow. Susan On Sep 27, 2005, at 3:11 PM, Sylvia Hasenkopf wrote: > Susan, the easiest way is probably to post the photos on the Greene Co > website. To do this you need to send the photos to me at > esi@francomm.com with a little descriptor - who, parents, dates, wife, > children, etc. and I'll post it on the site! > > Sylvia > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Smith-Hunter" > <fineart@sover.net> > To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 12:07 PM > Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] photographs > > >> Patricia- A week or so ago I tried sending some ancestor photos to >> the list, but I think they didn't survive the translation. I will >> send again. >> My question is whether you might know anyone who is an expert in >> analyzing old photos as to their age. I have a photo of a male >> ancestor that I would very much like to know more about. Susan >>> >> >> Susan Smith-Hunter >> Smith-Hunter Gallery >> 4234 Rte 7 >> Ethan Allen Highway >> Ferrisburgh, Vt. 05456-9778 >> Email: fineart@sover.net >> >> >> >> >> ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== >> The Diary of John Barr, Ensign in the Revolutionary War. Come read >> about our revolutionary past from the eyes of one who lived it! >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > Over 150 family bibles of Greene County families on-line now. Track > down > your lost ancestor! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > What I am seeking is not the real and not the unreal but rather the unconscious, the mystery of the instinctive in the human race. ::: Amedeo Modigliani ::: Susan Smith-Hunter Smith-Hunter Gallery 4234 Rte 7 Ethan Allen Highway Ferrisburgh, Vt. 05456-9778 Email: fineart@sover.net

Luther A. Bullard, d. March 19, 1880, aged 77y (See Note Below) Lucy Hosford, d. November 21, 1871, aged 57y, his wife Margaret Fisher, d. May 21, 1878, aged 74y, his wife I believe this Margaret is the mother of My Earl W. Fisher. Does anyone know anything on the Fisher of Green County? Earl W. Fisher and his Wife Mary Jane Waterman had these children Lu Ella Fisher who married George Pearson, David N. Fisher who married Jeannie L. Martin., Winfield G. Fisher & Alida Craft, Ernest D. Fisher, Jeannie Ann Fisher who married Ernest Platt Gramham, Elizabeth Fisher who married Frank Waterman. I am looking for someone to help connect some of the dots. I know that the lived in Hunters township, Greene County. Earl W. Fisher was a Justice of the peace. Thanks for any help. Melanie Fisher Citty

Lance, I find that there is a tombstone for William Calkins, in Stonebridge cemetery in the Town of Durham. He died August 16, 1830, aged 43. His wife, Betsey Barker died May 8, 1826, aged 34y. They are listed on the same stone as Ira Calkins and his wife, likely a son. I checked and there was no will for William - no big surprise as he was only 43 and probably did not anticipate that he would die so young. Now, it is very probable that William had children, and may, in fact have had another wife after Betsey died. It would definitely be worthwhile to check the Letters of Administration to see if papers were filed as William likely died intestate (without a will). His heirs would be listed as well as a disposition of his estate/debts. Also, there is a strong possibilty that William had minor children (under the age of 21) therefore there should be guardianship papers as well, even if there was a wife (women were rarely guardians at that timeframe) Don't know where you live, but the documents would be at the Vedder Library. If you are interested in acquiring my services to do this research please email me privately at esi@francomm.com Sylvia ----- Original Message ----- From: <lance.ware@cox.net> To: <NYGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 4:22 PM Subject: [GREENE COUNTY] James CALKINS, b. 1819 >I believe I've posted this before in the past in some form or other, but >got no response at that time. Since one of the listers has suggested that >we post details and maybe someone might be able to work on it, here it is >again with the latest info I have. > > James CALKINS, born 18 Jun 1819 in Greene County (according to 1855 New > York census). He is found in the 1850 and 1855 census in Hudson, Columbia, > NY. Later he moved to Monmouth County, NJ where he died in 1909. He > married (1) Elizabeth TEN BROECK, 14 Sep 1842 in Germantown, Columbia, NY, > and (2) Sarah ___, ca. 1854. The only CALKINS (or variant) listed in the > 1820 census in Greene County is William CALKINS of Durham (3 males <10, 1 > males 26-45, 1 females <10, 1 females 26-45, 1 manufacturers), so he is a > candidate for the father of my James. I've been unable to find any further > info linking James with William or anyone else in Greene County. James has > a death cert, but it does not list his parents. > > Can anyone tell me anything further about this William CALKINS of Durham? > Anyone have any records of a James CALKINS born in Greene County in 1819 > or thereabouts? > > Thanks, > Lance Ware > > > ==== NYGREENE Mailing List ==== > The Diary of John Barr, Ensign in the Revolutionary War. Come read about > our revolutionary past from the eyes of one who lived it! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

I believe I’ve posted this before in the past in some form or other, but got no response at that time. Since one of the listers has suggested that we post details and maybe someone might be able to work on it, here it is again with the latest info I have. James CALKINS, born 18 Jun 1819 in Greene County (according to 1855 New York census). He is found in the 1850 and 1855 census in Hudson, Columbia, NY. Later he moved to Monmouth County, NJ where he died in 1909. He married (1) Elizabeth TEN BROECK, 14 Sep 1842 in Germantown, Columbia, NY, and (2) Sarah ___, ca. 1854. The only CALKINS (or variant) listed in the 1820 census in Greene County is William CALKINS of Durham (3 males <10, 1 males 26-45, 1 females <10, 1 females 26-45, 1 manufacturers), so he is a candidate for the father of my James. I’ve been unable to find any further info linking James with William or anyone else in Greene County. James has a death cert, but it does not list his parents. Can anyone tell me anything further about this William CALKINS of Durham? Anyone have any records of a James CALKINS born in Greene County in 1819 or thereabouts? Thanks, Lance Ware