Looking for obit for Gertrude Mueller who passed away on Monday - December 08. Obit should be in Kingston Freeman. Anybody - ???? Thanks, Jane

I am looking for the 1st name of a Mr. Sitzer who married Edith Stott, Born 1916   The family lived in the Cairo area and in Hannacroix (next to Greenville)   Edith was the daughter of Maurice Stott and Sarah E. Stafford --- On Thu, 12/11/08, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [NYGREENE] Sitser sisters? To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 10:55 AM I?have?3 "lost" Sitsers who may be sisters(or cousins): Jane A Sitser b.1844 married to Edgar Shultis. Edgar owned Binnewater Ice Co. in Woodstock Julia Paradise Sitser 1846-1906 married to George Washington Haines from Hunter Marie E Sitser 1855-1904 married to Isaac W. Brandow from Windham Julia Paradise Sitser 1846-1906 married to George Washington Haines from Hunter Marie E Sitser 1855-1904 married to Isaac W. Brandow from Windham Any ideas? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I?have?3 "lost" Sitsers who may be sisters(or cousins): Jane A Sitser b.1844 married to Edgar Shultis. Edgar owned Binnewater Ice Co. in Woodstock Julia Paradise Sitser 1846-1906 married to George Washington Haines from Hunter Marie E Sitser 1855-1904 married to Isaac W. Brandow from Windham Julia Paradise Sitser 1846-1906 married to George Washington Haines from Hunter Marie E Sitser 1855-1904 married to Isaac W. Brandow from Windham Any ideas?

Ilooked for them on other census yesterday with no luck so far. Sue -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark Brown Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 9:42 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Lucy A. Craig/ Reynolds My Reynolds are Hector and Harriet Brown Reynold Children Sarah, Mary and John Odgen I believe Sarah married Albert Magee and Mary (Mariette) married Peter Magee (Mcghee) On Wednesday, December 10, 2008, at 10:18AM, "Sue Maxwell" <[email protected]> wrote: >The 1880 is the one where she is living on the farm. So I still am stuck. >The family that had the other mansion was Barrow ( William) and I never have >pursued that family, jut the ones that owned the other mansion- VanVorst. >Maybe someone on the site knows about the Reynolds family. Sue > >DO ANY OF THE REYNOLDS NAMES SOUND FAMILIAR TO ANYONE? Sue > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >On Behalf Of R. Mark Brown >Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 11:09 PM >To: NY Greene >Subject: [NYGREENE] Lucy A. Craig > >Hi Sue - don't remember too much about it but here is what I have in >my archives mail boxes --- hope this helps ---- I can dig deeper in >my mail box if you need. Mark > > >1880 >Lucy A. Craig Ae 51 NY > >Katie Reynolds ae25 >Joshua Reynolds ae 26 >LIzzie Reynolds ae 6 > >Message I send on Oct 24 > >1870 David Craig ae 56 Iceland >Ellen Craig ae 45 Iceland >James Craig ae 15 NY > >James Craig ae 78 Iceland County Home > >Albany >Margaret 1844 Iceland >Alexander 1846 >John 1851 >Robert 1854 >Elizabeth 1858 > >Jameel 1805 Albany > >1860 Lucia Craig - ae 31 - Hunter/Greene > >Message I sent on Oct 24 > >Hi Sue - have you seen this before? It's on the Greene Co. II webpage -- > >Shubael led a full life, filled with many interesting experiences and >friends. Tragedy struck in June of 1882, when on the 5th, after >surgery for cancer of the tongue, he died of an infection related to >the surgery, leaving his estate to his wife, and leaving his lawyer >son Edgar, as inheritor of the property. . The present caretaker of >the property, Lucy A. Craig, was allowed, by his will, to live there >until her death. Her name can be found on old maps. The houses had >two different names: Maple Cottage in 1867, and Elm Cottage in 1879. > >http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nygreen2/swain_family_gallery.htm > >I was looking at the other Lucy and the Craigs in the census - do you >know any of Lucy's brother's or sisters? > >In the 1880 Census - > >1880 Hunter/Greene > >Lucy A. Craig Ae 51 NY >Katie Reynolds ae25 (neice) >Joshua Reynolds ae 26 >LIzzie Reynolds ae 6 > >and it states that Katie is a neice of Lucy - >I'm guessing that Joshua and Katie are married - >I suspect that a record of the marriage of the two might give you >some interesting info - > >I happen to have Reynolds relatives but I don't know that I have >Joshua - but I'll look closer. > >I wonder if the James James who is ae 78 Ireland in the Greene >County Home - could be the father of Lucy..... it would be good to >see if you can find him as the father of a family in the 1850 Census >- showing he had a daughter Lucy - and perhaps some other who could >be traced to "Neice" Katie. > >Also - you've probably seen 1860 Lucia Craig - ae 31 - Hunter/Greene >- this would appear to be the same Lucy. > >I'll keep looking - Mark > > >HI my apologies - I feel a little foolish - seeing that the Swain >article was contributed by you. You have done quite a bit - I also >saw Shubael in the NJ census - with your note. It's wasn't clear in >the post that you knew about the Swain connection. > >Looking at it again - you write that the daughter of one of these >families married a Craig - could the answer be with the 1880 Census >Results - > >1880 Hunter/Greene > >Lucy A. Craig Ae 51 NY >Katie Reynolds ae25 (neice) >Joshua Reynolds ae 26 >LIzzie Reynolds ae 6 > >As Joshua Reynolds appears to be the husband of Katie Reynolds - a >niece of Lucy - that means that Katie's mom was probably a Craig ? >Maybe or is there another way for her to be a niece ? > >Just a thought - Mark > > > >My gr gr grandfather, willed his summer farm in Tannersville, to a >Lucy A. >Craig, to be then passed on to her son at her death. I have never >been able >to find out who she was. She is on an old map of Tannersville, and she >appears to be a Miss. If anyone with books on the area finds anything >about >her, would they please let me know- the only possibility I know of so >far, >is that his daughter married into a family who were neighbors of another >family- they had duplicate mansions. The daughter of one of these >families >married a Craig, so Lucy may be connected with her somehow. There are >many >Lucy A. Craigs around. Thanks- Sue > > > >On Oct 24, 2008, at 3:59 PM, Sue Maxwell wrote: > >> My gr gr grandfather, willed his summer farm in Tannersville, to a >> Lucy A. >> Craig, to be then passed on to her son at her death. I have never >> been able >> to find out who she was. She is on an old map of Tannersville, and she >> appears to be a Miss. If anyone with books on the area finds >> anything about >> her, would they please let me know- the only possibility I know of >> so far, >> is that his daughter married into a family who were neighbors of >> another >> family- they had duplicate mansions. The daughter of one of these >> families >> married a Craig, so Lucy may be connected with her somehow. There >> are many >> Lucy A. Craigs around. Thanks- Sue >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYGREENE- >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > >"Why in childhood and youth do we wish time to pass so quickly - we >want to grow up so fast - yet as adults we wish just the opposite?" >My Dog Skip > >R. Mark Brown >[email protected] > > > >Autumn is a second spring when every leaf is a flower. Albert Camus > >R. Mark Brown >[email protected] > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My Reynolds are Hector and Harriet Brown Reynold Children Sarah, Mary and John Odgen I believe Sarah married Albert Magee and Mary (Mariette) married Peter Magee (Mcghee) On Wednesday, December 10, 2008, at 10:18AM, "Sue Maxwell" <[email protected]> wrote: >The 1880 is the one where she is living on the farm. So I still am stuck. >The family that had the other mansion was Barrow ( William) and I never have >pursued that family, jut the ones that owned the other mansion- VanVorst. >Maybe someone on the site knows about the Reynolds family. Sue > >DO ANY OF THE REYNOLDS NAMES SOUND FAMILIAR TO ANYONE? Sue > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >On Behalf Of R. Mark Brown >Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 11:09 PM >To: NY Greene >Subject: [NYGREENE] Lucy A. Craig > >Hi Sue - don't remember too much about it but here is what I have in >my archives mail boxes --- hope this helps ---- I can dig deeper in >my mail box if you need. Mark > > >1880 >Lucy A. Craig Ae 51 NY > >Katie Reynolds ae25 >Joshua Reynolds ae 26 >LIzzie Reynolds ae 6 > >Message I send on Oct 24 > >1870 David Craig ae 56 Iceland >Ellen Craig ae 45 Iceland >James Craig ae 15 NY > >James Craig ae 78 Iceland County Home > >Albany >Margaret 1844 Iceland >Alexander 1846 >John 1851 >Robert 1854 >Elizabeth 1858 > >Jameel 1805 Albany > >1860 Lucia Craig - ae 31 - Hunter/Greene > >Message I sent on Oct 24 > >Hi Sue - have you seen this before? It's on the Greene Co. II webpage -- > >Shubael led a full life, filled with many interesting experiences and >friends. Tragedy struck in June of 1882, when on the 5th, after >surgery for cancer of the tongue, he died of an infection related to >the surgery, leaving his estate to his wife, and leaving his lawyer >son Edgar, as inheritor of the property. . The present caretaker of >the property, Lucy A. Craig, was allowed, by his will, to live there >until her death. Her name can be found on old maps. The houses had >two different names: Maple Cottage in 1867, and Elm Cottage in 1879. > >http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nygreen2/swain_family_gallery.htm > >I was looking at the other Lucy and the Craigs in the census - do you >know any of Lucy's brother's or sisters? > >In the 1880 Census - > >1880 Hunter/Greene > >Lucy A. Craig Ae 51 NY >Katie Reynolds ae25 (neice) >Joshua Reynolds ae 26 >LIzzie Reynolds ae 6 > >and it states that Katie is a neice of Lucy - >I'm guessing that Joshua and Katie are married - >I suspect that a record of the marriage of the two might give you >some interesting info - > >I happen to have Reynolds relatives but I don't know that I have >Joshua - but I'll look closer. > >I wonder if the James James who is ae 78 Ireland in the Greene >County Home - could be the father of Lucy..... it would be good to >see if you can find him as the father of a family in the 1850 Census >- showing he had a daughter Lucy - and perhaps some other who could >be traced to "Neice" Katie. > >Also - you've probably seen 1860 Lucia Craig - ae 31 - Hunter/Greene >- this would appear to be the same Lucy. > >I'll keep looking - Mark > > >HI my apologies - I feel a little foolish - seeing that the Swain >article was contributed by you. You have done quite a bit - I also >saw Shubael in the NJ census - with your note. It's wasn't clear in >the post that you knew about the Swain connection. > >Looking at it again - you write that the daughter of one of these >families married a Craig - could the answer be with the 1880 Census >Results - > >1880 Hunter/Greene > >Lucy A. Craig Ae 51 NY >Katie Reynolds ae25 (neice) >Joshua Reynolds ae 26 >LIzzie Reynolds ae 6 > >As Joshua Reynolds appears to be the husband of Katie Reynolds - a >niece of Lucy - that means that Katie's mom was probably a Craig ? >Maybe or is there another way for her to be a niece ? > >Just a thought - Mark > > > >My gr gr grandfather, willed his summer farm in Tannersville, to a >Lucy A. >Craig, to be then passed on to her son at her death. I have never >been able >to find out who she was. She is on an old map of Tannersville, and she >appears to be a Miss. If anyone with books on the area finds anything >about >her, would they please let me know- the only possibility I know of so >far, >is that his daughter married into a family who were neighbors of another >family- they had duplicate mansions. The daughter of one of these >families >married a Craig, so Lucy may be connected with her somehow. There are >many >Lucy A. Craigs around. Thanks- Sue > > > >On Oct 24, 2008, at 3:59 PM, Sue Maxwell wrote: > >> My gr gr grandfather, willed his summer farm in Tannersville, to a >> Lucy A. >> Craig, to be then passed on to her son at her death. I have never >> been able >> to find out who she was. She is on an old map of Tannersville, and she >> appears to be a Miss. If anyone with books on the area finds >> anything about >> her, would they please let me know- the only possibility I know of >> so far, >> is that his daughter married into a family who were neighbors of >> another >> family- they had duplicate mansions. The daughter of one of these >> families >> married a Craig, so Lucy may be connected with her somehow. There >> are many >> Lucy A. Craigs around. Thanks- Sue >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYGREENE- >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > >"Why in childhood and youth do we wish time to pass so quickly - we >want to grow up so fast - yet as adults we wish just the opposite?" >My Dog Skip > >R. Mark Brown >[email protected] > > > >Autumn is a second spring when every leaf is a flower. Albert Camus > >R. Mark Brown >[email protected] > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi! To all kith and kin that I have corresponded with in the past, I have a new email address. It is now : [email protected] We have also moved to another town in GA to be near my daughter who has RA so we can help her out when she needs it. We are still up to our neck in boxes all over. So I will wish you all a very Merry Christmas and a year ahead filled with health, happiness and stress free. Virginia Sanok

The 1880 is the one where she is living on the farm. So I still am stuck. The family that had the other mansion was Barrow ( William) and I never have pursued that family, jut the ones that owned the other mansion- VanVorst. Maybe someone on the site knows about the Reynolds family. Sue DO ANY OF THE REYNOLDS NAMES SOUND FAMILIAR TO ANYONE? Sue -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of R. Mark Brown Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 11:09 PM To: NY Greene Subject: [NYGREENE] Lucy A. Craig Hi Sue - don't remember too much about it but here is what I have in my archives mail boxes --- hope this helps ---- I can dig deeper in my mail box if you need. Mark 1880 Lucy A. Craig Ae 51 NY Katie Reynolds ae25 Joshua Reynolds ae 26 LIzzie Reynolds ae 6 Message I send on Oct 24 1870 David Craig ae 56 Iceland Ellen Craig ae 45 Iceland James Craig ae 15 NY James Craig ae 78 Iceland County Home Albany Margaret 1844 Iceland Alexander 1846 John 1851 Robert 1854 Elizabeth 1858 Jameel 1805 Albany 1860 Lucia Craig - ae 31 - Hunter/Greene Message I sent on Oct 24 Hi Sue - have you seen this before? It's on the Greene Co. II webpage -- Shubael led a full life, filled with many interesting experiences and friends. Tragedy struck in June of 1882, when on the 5th, after surgery for cancer of the tongue, he died of an infection related to the surgery, leaving his estate to his wife, and leaving his lawyer son Edgar, as inheritor of the property. . The present caretaker of the property, Lucy A. Craig, was allowed, by his will, to live there until her death. Her name can be found on old maps. The houses had two different names: Maple Cottage in 1867, and Elm Cottage in 1879. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nygreen2/swain_family_gallery.htm I was looking at the other Lucy and the Craigs in the census - do you know any of Lucy's brother's or sisters? In the 1880 Census - 1880 Hunter/Greene Lucy A. Craig Ae 51 NY Katie Reynolds ae25 (neice) Joshua Reynolds ae 26 LIzzie Reynolds ae 6 and it states that Katie is a neice of Lucy - I'm guessing that Joshua and Katie are married - I suspect that a record of the marriage of the two might give you some interesting info - I happen to have Reynolds relatives but I don't know that I have Joshua - but I'll look closer. I wonder if the James James who is ae 78 Ireland in the Greene County Home - could be the father of Lucy..... it would be good to see if you can find him as the father of a family in the 1850 Census - showing he had a daughter Lucy - and perhaps some other who could be traced to "Neice" Katie. Also - you've probably seen 1860 Lucia Craig - ae 31 - Hunter/Greene - this would appear to be the same Lucy. I'll keep looking - Mark HI my apologies - I feel a little foolish - seeing that the Swain article was contributed by you. You have done quite a bit - I also saw Shubael in the NJ census - with your note. It's wasn't clear in the post that you knew about the Swain connection. Looking at it again - you write that the daughter of one of these families married a Craig - could the answer be with the 1880 Census Results - 1880 Hunter/Greene Lucy A. Craig Ae 51 NY Katie Reynolds ae25 (neice) Joshua Reynolds ae 26 LIzzie Reynolds ae 6 As Joshua Reynolds appears to be the husband of Katie Reynolds - a niece of Lucy - that means that Katie's mom was probably a Craig ? Maybe or is there another way for her to be a niece ? Just a thought - Mark My gr gr grandfather, willed his summer farm in Tannersville, to a Lucy A. Craig, to be then passed on to her son at her death. I have never been able to find out who she was. She is on an old map of Tannersville, and she appears to be a Miss. If anyone with books on the area finds anything about her, would they please let me know- the only possibility I know of so far, is that his daughter married into a family who were neighbors of another family- they had duplicate mansions. The daughter of one of these families married a Craig, so Lucy may be connected with her somehow. There are many Lucy A. Craigs around. Thanks- Sue On Oct 24, 2008, at 3:59 PM, Sue Maxwell wrote: > My gr gr grandfather, willed his summer farm in Tannersville, to a > Lucy A. > Craig, to be then passed on to her son at her death. I have never > been able > to find out who she was. She is on an old map of Tannersville, and she > appears to be a Miss. If anyone with books on the area finds > anything about > her, would they please let me know- the only possibility I know of > so far, > is that his daughter married into a family who were neighbors of > another > family- they had duplicate mansions. The daughter of one of these > families > married a Craig, so Lucy may be connected with her somehow. There > are many > Lucy A. Craigs around. Thanks- Sue > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYGREENE- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message "Why in childhood and youth do we wish time to pass so quickly - we want to grow up so fast - yet as adults we wish just the opposite?" My Dog Skip R. Mark Brown [email protected] Autumn is a second spring when every leaf is a flower. Albert Camus R. Mark Brown [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Mark- ever since I have switched to Microsoft Office I keep losing things! Sue -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of R. Mark Brown Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 11:09 PM To: NY Greene Subject: [NYGREENE] Lucy A. Craig Hi Sue - don't remember too much about it but here is what I have in my archives mail boxes --- hope this helps ---- I can dig deeper in my mail box if you need. Mark 1880 Lucy A. Craig Ae 51 NY Katie Reynolds ae25 Joshua Reynolds ae 26 LIzzie Reynolds ae 6 Message I send on Oct 24 1870 David Craig ae 56 Iceland Ellen Craig ae 45 Iceland James Craig ae 15 NY James Craig ae 78 Iceland County Home Albany Margaret 1844 Iceland Alexander 1846 John 1851 Robert 1854 Elizabeth 1858 Jameel 1805 Albany 1860 Lucia Craig - ae 31 - Hunter/Greene Message I sent on Oct 24 Hi Sue - have you seen this before? It's on the Greene Co. II webpage -- Shubael led a full life, filled with many interesting experiences and friends. Tragedy struck in June of 1882, when on the 5th, after surgery for cancer of the tongue, he died of an infection related to the surgery, leaving his estate to his wife, and leaving his lawyer son Edgar, as inheritor of the property. . The present caretaker of the property, Lucy A. Craig, was allowed, by his will, to live there until her death. Her name can be found on old maps. The houses had two different names: Maple Cottage in 1867, and Elm Cottage in 1879. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nygreen2/swain_family_gallery.htm I was looking at the other Lucy and the Craigs in the census - do you know any of Lucy's brother's or sisters? In the 1880 Census - 1880 Hunter/Greene Lucy A. Craig Ae 51 NY Katie Reynolds ae25 (neice) Joshua Reynolds ae 26 LIzzie Reynolds ae 6 and it states that Katie is a neice of Lucy - I'm guessing that Joshua and Katie are married - I suspect that a record of the marriage of the two might give you some interesting info - I happen to have Reynolds relatives but I don't know that I have Joshua - but I'll look closer. I wonder if the James James who is ae 78 Ireland in the Greene County Home - could be the father of Lucy..... it would be good to see if you can find him as the father of a family in the 1850 Census - showing he had a daughter Lucy - and perhaps some other who could be traced to "Neice" Katie. Also - you've probably seen 1860 Lucia Craig - ae 31 - Hunter/Greene - this would appear to be the same Lucy. I'll keep looking - Mark HI my apologies - I feel a little foolish - seeing that the Swain article was contributed by you. You have done quite a bit - I also saw Shubael in the NJ census - with your note. It's wasn't clear in the post that you knew about the Swain connection. Looking at it again - you write that the daughter of one of these families married a Craig - could the answer be with the 1880 Census Results - 1880 Hunter/Greene Lucy A. Craig Ae 51 NY Katie Reynolds ae25 (neice) Joshua Reynolds ae 26 LIzzie Reynolds ae 6 As Joshua Reynolds appears to be the husband of Katie Reynolds - a niece of Lucy - that means that Katie's mom was probably a Craig ? Maybe or is there another way for her to be a niece ? Just a thought - Mark My gr gr grandfather, willed his summer farm in Tannersville, to a Lucy A. Craig, to be then passed on to her son at her death. I have never been able to find out who she was. She is on an old map of Tannersville, and she appears to be a Miss. If anyone with books on the area finds anything about her, would they please let me know- the only possibility I know of so far, is that his daughter married into a family who were neighbors of another family- they had duplicate mansions. The daughter of one of these families married a Craig, so Lucy may be connected with her somehow. There are many Lucy A. Craigs around. Thanks- Sue On Oct 24, 2008, at 3:59 PM, Sue Maxwell wrote: > My gr gr grandfather, willed his summer farm in Tannersville, to a > Lucy A. > Craig, to be then passed on to her son at her death. I have never > been able > to find out who she was. She is on an old map of Tannersville, and she > appears to be a Miss. If anyone with books on the area finds > anything about > her, would they please let me know- the only possibility I know of > so far, > is that his daughter married into a family who were neighbors of > another > family- they had duplicate mansions. The daughter of one of these > families > married a Craig, so Lucy may be connected with her somehow. There > are many > Lucy A. Craigs around. Thanks- Sue > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYGREENE- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message "Why in childhood and youth do we wish time to pass so quickly - we want to grow up so fast - yet as adults we wish just the opposite?" My Dog Skip R. Mark Brown [email protected] Autumn is a second spring when every leaf is a flower. Albert Camus R. Mark Brown [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Sue - don't remember too much about it but here is what I have in my archives mail boxes --- hope this helps ---- I can dig deeper in my mail box if you need. Mark 1880 Lucy A. Craig Ae 51 NY Katie Reynolds ae25 Joshua Reynolds ae 26 LIzzie Reynolds ae 6 Message I send on Oct 24 1870 David Craig ae 56 Iceland Ellen Craig ae 45 Iceland James Craig ae 15 NY James Craig ae 78 Iceland County Home Albany Margaret 1844 Iceland Alexander 1846 John 1851 Robert 1854 Elizabeth 1858 Jameel 1805 Albany 1860 Lucia Craig - ae 31 - Hunter/Greene Message I sent on Oct 24 Hi Sue - have you seen this before? It's on the Greene Co. II webpage -- Shubael led a full life, filled with many interesting experiences and friends. Tragedy struck in June of 1882, when on the 5th, after surgery for cancer of the tongue, he died of an infection related to the surgery, leaving his estate to his wife, and leaving his lawyer son Edgar, as inheritor of the property. . The present caretaker of the property, Lucy A. Craig, was allowed, by his will, to live there until her death. Her name can be found on old maps. The houses had two different names: Maple Cottage in 1867, and Elm Cottage in 1879. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nygreen2/swain_family_gallery.htm I was looking at the other Lucy and the Craigs in the census - do you know any of Lucy's brother's or sisters? In the 1880 Census - 1880 Hunter/Greene Lucy A. Craig Ae 51 NY Katie Reynolds ae25 (neice) Joshua Reynolds ae 26 LIzzie Reynolds ae 6 and it states that Katie is a neice of Lucy - I'm guessing that Joshua and Katie are married - I suspect that a record of the marriage of the two might give you some interesting info - I happen to have Reynolds relatives but I don't know that I have Joshua - but I'll look closer. I wonder if the James James who is ae 78 Ireland in the Greene County Home - could be the father of Lucy..... it would be good to see if you can find him as the father of a family in the 1850 Census - showing he had a daughter Lucy - and perhaps some other who could be traced to "Neice" Katie. Also - you've probably seen 1860 Lucia Craig - ae 31 - Hunter/Greene - this would appear to be the same Lucy. I'll keep looking - Mark HI my apologies - I feel a little foolish - seeing that the Swain article was contributed by you. You have done quite a bit - I also saw Shubael in the NJ census - with your note. It's wasn't clear in the post that you knew about the Swain connection. Looking at it again - you write that the daughter of one of these families married a Craig - could the answer be with the 1880 Census Results - 1880 Hunter/Greene Lucy A. Craig Ae 51 NY Katie Reynolds ae25 (neice) Joshua Reynolds ae 26 LIzzie Reynolds ae 6 As Joshua Reynolds appears to be the husband of Katie Reynolds - a niece of Lucy - that means that Katie's mom was probably a Craig ? Maybe or is there another way for her to be a niece ? Just a thought - Mark My gr gr grandfather, willed his summer farm in Tannersville, to a Lucy A. Craig, to be then passed on to her son at her death. I have never been able to find out who she was. She is on an old map of Tannersville, and she appears to be a Miss. If anyone with books on the area finds anything about her, would they please let me know- the only possibility I know of so far, is that his daughter married into a family who were neighbors of another family- they had duplicate mansions. The daughter of one of these families married a Craig, so Lucy may be connected with her somehow. There are many Lucy A. Craigs around. Thanks- Sue On Oct 24, 2008, at 3:59 PM, Sue Maxwell wrote: > My gr gr grandfather, willed his summer farm in Tannersville, to a > Lucy A. > Craig, to be then passed on to her son at her death. I have never > been able > to find out who she was. She is on an old map of Tannersville, and she > appears to be a Miss. If anyone with books on the area finds > anything about > her, would they please let me know- the only possibility I know of > so far, > is that his daughter married into a family who were neighbors of > another > family- they had duplicate mansions. The daughter of one of these > families > married a Craig, so Lucy may be connected with her somehow. There > are many > Lucy A. Craigs around. Thanks- Sue > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYGREENE- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message "Why in childhood and youth do we wish time to pass so quickly - we want to grow up so fast - yet as adults we wish just the opposite?" My Dog Skip R. Mark Brown [email protected] Autumn is a second spring when every leaf is a flower. Albert Camus R. Mark Brown [email protected]

Someone found a family for Lucy A Craig for me and now I cannot find his email- if he is on list, could he resend the information, please. Thanks, Sue

Gary, It is on a paper, the second of four, about half way down the page, dated October 9, 1867, County of Sullivan. Seward ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Dufel" <[email protected]> To: "Seward Osborne" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 7:31 PM Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Sophia Tompkins > Seward: > > Where did you find that pension paper? > > I have the application papers for Sophia to obtain a widows pension and > for > several of the younger kids to receive a pension when Jacob Hornbeck was > killed at Bottom's Bridge, Va. in fevruary 1864. I got these papers at > the > National Archives in Washington. In these papers, she had to prove she > was > married and she attested to being married at Chapman's Hotel in August > 1844 > by Rev. Hedtrom (misspelled) and a few people had to attest with her. > > I haven't reviewed these in some time, but I don't recall ever seeing that > Hedtrom was an elder, nor do I recall a church being mentioned. (I do > wonder what building was actually Chapman's Hotel.) > > Gary > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Seward Osborne > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 3:01 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NYGREENE] Sophia Tompkins > > > On one of the pension papers of Jacob Hornbeck, Sophia states that she and > Jacob were married "by Hedstrom[sp] Elder of the Methodist Church of that > place".[Prattsville] So perhaps he was not a traveling minister! > > Seward R. Osborne > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Seward: Where did you find that pension paper? I have the application papers for Sophia to obtain a widows pension and for several of the younger kids to receive a pension when Jacob Hornbeck was killed at Bottom's Bridge, Va. in fevruary 1864. I got these papers at the National Archives in Washington. In these papers, she had to prove she was married and she attested to being married at Chapman's Hotel in August 1844 by Rev. Hedtrom (misspelled) and a few people had to attest with her. I haven't reviewed these in some time, but I don't recall ever seeing that Hedtrom was an elder, nor do I recall a church being mentioned. (I do wonder what building was actually Chapman's Hotel.) Gary -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Seward Osborne Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 3:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NYGREENE] Sophia Tompkins On one of the pension papers of Jacob Hornbeck, Sophia states that she and Jacob were married "by Hedstrom[sp] Elder of the Methodist Church of that place".[Prattsville] So perhaps he was not a traveling minister! Seward R. Osborne ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On one of the pension papers of Jacob Hornbeck, Sophia states that she and Jacob were married "by Hedstrom[sp] Elder of the Methodist Church of that place".[Prattsville] So perhaps he was not a traveling minister! Seward R. Osborne

It seems a Robert G. Hall was convicted of another murder - Rivers - I know his was named in the Tully Paper ---- maybe it's a different Hall - maybe he wasn't convicted of the first --- don't know - got to go back to the carols --- M "Why in childhood and youth do we wish time to pass so quickly - we want to grow up so fast - yet as adults we wish just the opposite?" My Dog Skip R. Mark Brown [email protected]

I see that he was hanged - reported in the Buffalo NY Morning Express 1888 - there is quite a few things on him --- you might even find a transcript of the trial - search Google Books or something --- I found the a trial transcript for of a relatives trial - Mo Supreme Court once. M "Why in childhood and youth do we wish time to pass so quickly - we want to grow up so fast - yet as adults we wish just the opposite?" My Dog Skip R. Mark Brown [email protected]

Just a bit of a pun on Mourning --- ( too many Christmas Carols and trumpet and flute part running around in my head ) Sat Morning Times Oct 29, 1887 Tully Column Two - under condensed news --- Robert G. Hall, an ex-variey actor, was placed on trial in Philladelphia Monday for the murder of Sophie Smith. Try searching Fulton History now for Robert G. Hall ---- It might take awhile to get a hit - you'll get a lot of hits - but you might not get your tidbit until the 700dth --- But they are often there --- M "Why in childhood and youth do we wish time to pass so quickly - we want to grow up so fast - yet as adults we wish just the opposite?" My Dog Skip R. Mark Brown [email protected]

You should throw those names into Fulton History and see what comes up ---- Mark Sophia Smith or Sophia Tompkins - or Smith of Olive or Tompkins of Olive ---- >> Sophia Smith, whose name before marriage >> was Sophia Tompkins "Why in childhood and youth do we wish time to pass so quickly - we want to grow up so fast - yet as adults we wish just the opposite?" My Dog Skip R. Mark Brown [email protected]

agreed, and I think one should check the Tompkins in Ulster County, since Olive IS Ulster Co. Audrey ---- Dick Hillenbrand <[email protected]> wrote: > Audrey, Super kudos! > > That IS an amazing amount of genealogical information to be found in a > newspaper account. OK, not primary evidence but still AMAZING! > > Dick Hillenbrand > > > On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Audrey Klinkenberg <[email protected]>wrote: > > > Gary, I have info... From the Saugerties Telegraph, Nov 27, 1868 > > Amanda Brodhead was found insensible on the roadside in Accord on the 15th > > with bullet holes in her heart. She died on Wednesday following... > > > > >From the Saugerties Telegraph, Dec 4, 1868 > > It was not Amanda Broadhead who was murdered, she is in Grand Rapids, > > Michigan. The person killed was Sophia Smith, whose name before marriage > > was Sophia Tompkins, born near Olive, who married twice, first to Jacob > > Hornbeck, who enlisted in the 143rd regiment and died inthe army, and > > second > > in September, 1867 to Jeremiah Smith, who murdered her. Jeremiah Smith was > > raised in Neversink. Three children living at home, aged 12, 9 and 5, two > > girls and a boy, and one daughter married and lving in Olive. > > > > Although there won't be any other genealogical information in the article, > > there may be more details about the incident. > > The newspapers are on microfilm at The Saugerties Public Library. Ask and > > ye shall receive... > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gary Dufel" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 12:09 PM > > Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Rev Hedstrom plus Dunagan and Tompkins > > > > > > > Dick - > > > > > > Thanks for the tips and the interest. > > > > > > I do have a wealth of info from the newspapers - and I have it typed if > > > anyone cares for a copy. Although the murderer was known, he was never > > > captured, thus no trial. I did think of the court records for the > > various > > > activities that did take place, but everyone tells me there would be no > > > records from 1868. (By the way - murder was in Accord, Ulster County). > > > > > > Never once in all the news articles did it discuss the woman's parentage, > > > which is what I am interested in. And not only did I never run across and > > > obit from late 1868, she is known to be buried in an unmarked grave - I > > > presume in Accord. I have even spoken to someone who thought he had a > > > line > > > on the local cemetery records, but that did not pan out. > > > > > > This is what makes family history such an interesting hobby. It's the > > > chase > > > for info, when info is tough to locate. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] > > > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Dick Hillenbrand > > > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 11:42 AM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Rev Hedstrom plus Dunagan and Tompkins > > > > > > > > > Gary, > > > > > > The chances of finding marriage record notes of this man is near > > > impossible, > > > but the operative word is "near." > > > > > > As it turns out that he being fairly prominent and a newspaper editor, > > > there > > > "might" be some of his journals somewhere and if I were you I would not > > > rest > > > until I found them. > > > > > > Sophia, murdered? GREAT! > > > (Of course not so great for Sophia, and my apologies, but couldn't > > > resist.) > > > There will be court records of the trial, and you might get testimony > > from > > > a > > > brother or married sister, or some other type of clue. Dig through the > > > case > > > files, they are all published in the court house of record. > > > > > > There will also be newspaper accounts, and best might be a juicy estate > > > file > > > in a probate court somewhere. > > > > > > This is a straw wall that any wolf could easily blow down. \grin/ > > > > > > Dick Hillenbrand > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Gary Dufel <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> I want to thank eveyone who took in interest in The Rev Hedstrom. I > > >> wasn't > > >> so much interested in his bio as I was finding records of people who he > > >> officiated at their wedding or christenings, but I do appreciate people > > >> spending some time on this task. > > >> > > >> There are two other brick walls that I have never broken down. Again > > >> with > > >> all the great advice I have been given and the efforts of some people on > > >> the > > >> Rev Hedstrom, I ask if anyone has clues to either of the following. It > > >> is > > >> not that I expect people to do my research as I sit back, I am simply > > out > > >> of > > >> ideas and can use the expertise of others to see if these walls can be > > >> knocked loose. > > >> > > >> 1. A Michael Donegan/Dunagan/Dunigan (born in Ireland about 1804) > > > probably > > >> arrived in Hunter about 1826-1827, married Elenor Underhill and they had > > >> numerous children as was the fashion of the day (Mary Ann, John, Andrew, > > >> Michael, Ellen, Lucy, William, Martha, Julia Theresa, and possibly one > > >> older > > >> daughter from the 1820's who never got listed by name in the census). > > In > > >> about 1848 they moved to Ulster County - Town of Olive. My main quest > > is > > >> to > > >> get any info on the background of Michael Donegan "from Ireland". I > > have > > >> found no records of any kind in Hunter for he or his family. No church > > >> records, no marriage, christenings, land - if it wasn't for census > > >> records > > >> I > > >> would wonder if he existed. So any ideas to get a line on Michael or on > > >> the > > >> descendants of the daughters would be welcome. I have very good info on > > >> the > > >> sons - some of whom were in the Civil War. > > >> > > >> 2. Sophia Tompkins - born in Greene County probably mid 1820's, married > > > to > > >> Jacob Hornbeck in 1844 in Prattsville, then moved to > > Denning/Grahamsville > > >> on > > >> the border of Ulster and Sullivan County. I know there were a number of > > >> Tompkins in southern Greene including several in the Lexington area. > > But > > > I > > >> have never been able to put Sophia to a family line. Again, no records > > >> of > > >> marriage, christenings, etc. Just a blank wall. I do have good records > > > of > > >> her descendants, her husband's civil war demise and ultimately her > > murder > > >> at > > >> the hands of her second husband - but who were her parents? > > >> > > >> Gary > > >> [email protected] > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

agreed, and I think one should check the Tompkins in Ulster County, since Olive IS Ulster Co. Audrey ---- Dick Hillenbrand <[email protected]> wrote: > Audrey, Super kudos! > > That IS an amazing amount of genealogical information to be found in a > newspaper account. OK, not primary evidence but still AMAZING! > > Dick Hillenbrand > > > On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Audrey Klinkenberg <[email protected]>wrote: > > > Gary, I have info... From the Saugerties Telegraph, Nov 27, 1868 > > Amanda Brodhead was found insensible on the roadside in Accord on the 15th > > with bullet holes in her heart. She died on Wednesday following... > > > > >From the Saugerties Telegraph, Dec 4, 1868 > > It was not Amanda Broadhead who was murdered, she is in Grand Rapids, > > Michigan. The person killed was Sophia Smith, whose name before marriage > > was Sophia Tompkins, born near Olive, who married twice, first to Jacob > > Hornbeck, who enlisted in the 143rd regiment and died inthe army, and > > second > > in September, 1867 to Jeremiah Smith, who murdered her. Jeremiah Smith was > > raised in Neversink. Three children living at home, aged 12, 9 and 5, two > > girls and a boy, and one daughter married and lving in Olive. > > > > Although there won't be any other genealogical information in the article, > > there may be more details about the incident. > > The newspapers are on microfilm at The Saugerties Public Library. Ask and > > ye shall receive... > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gary Dufel" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 12:09 PM > > Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Rev Hedstrom plus Dunagan and Tompkins > > > > > > > Dick - > > > > > > Thanks for the tips and the interest. > > > > > > I do have a wealth of info from the newspapers - and I have it typed if > > > anyone cares for a copy. Although the murderer was known, he was never > > > captured, thus no trial. I did think of the court records for the > > various > > > activities that did take place, but everyone tells me there would be no > > > records from 1868. (By the way - murder was in Accord, Ulster County). > > > > > > Never once in all the news articles did it discuss the woman's parentage, > > > which is what I am interested in. And not only did I never run across and > > > obit from late 1868, she is known to be buried in an unmarked grave - I > > > presume in Accord. I have even spoken to someone who thought he had a > > > line > > > on the local cemetery records, but that did not pan out. > > > > > > This is what makes family history such an interesting hobby. It's the > > > chase > > > for info, when info is tough to locate. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] > > > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Dick Hillenbrand > > > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 11:42 AM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Rev Hedstrom plus Dunagan and Tompkins > > > > > > > > > Gary, > > > > > > The chances of finding marriage record notes of this man is near > > > impossible, > > > but the operative word is "near." > > > > > > As it turns out that he being fairly prominent and a newspaper editor, > > > there > > > "might" be some of his journals somewhere and if I were you I would not > > > rest > > > until I found them. > > > > > > Sophia, murdered? GREAT! > > > (Of course not so great for Sophia, and my apologies, but couldn't > > > resist.) > > > There will be court records of the trial, and you might get testimony > > from > > > a > > > brother or married sister, or some other type of clue. Dig through the > > > case > > > files, they are all published in the court house of record. > > > > > > There will also be newspaper accounts, and best might be a juicy estate > > > file > > > in a probate court somewhere. > > > > > > This is a straw wall that any wolf could easily blow down. \grin/ > > > > > > Dick Hillenbrand > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Gary Dufel <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> I want to thank eveyone who took in interest in The Rev Hedstrom. I > > >> wasn't > > >> so much interested in his bio as I was finding records of people who he > > >> officiated at their wedding or christenings, but I do appreciate people > > >> spending some time on this task. > > >> > > >> There are two other brick walls that I have never broken down. Again > > >> with > > >> all the great advice I have been given and the efforts of some people on > > >> the > > >> Rev Hedstrom, I ask if anyone has clues to either of the following. It > > >> is > > >> not that I expect people to do my research as I sit back, I am simply > > out > > >> of > > >> ideas and can use the expertise of others to see if these walls can be > > >> knocked loose. > > >> > > >> 1. A Michael Donegan/Dunagan/Dunigan (born in Ireland about 1804) > > > probably > > >> arrived in Hunter about 1826-1827, married Elenor Underhill and they had > > >> numerous children as was the fashion of the day (Mary Ann, John, Andrew, > > >> Michael, Ellen, Lucy, William, Martha, Julia Theresa, and possibly one > > >> older > > >> daughter from the 1820's who never got listed by name in the census). > > In > > >> about 1848 they moved to Ulster County - Town of Olive. My main quest > > is > > >> to > > >> get any info on the background of Michael Donegan "from Ireland". I > > have > > >> found no records of any kind in Hunter for he or his family. No church > > >> records, no marriage, christenings, land - if it wasn't for census > > >> records > > >> I > > >> would wonder if he existed. So any ideas to get a line on Michael or on > > >> the > > >> descendants of the daughters would be welcome. I have very good info on > > >> the > > >> sons - some of whom were in the Civil War. > > >> > > >> 2. Sophia Tompkins - born in Greene County probably mid 1820's, married > > > to > > >> Jacob Hornbeck in 1844 in Prattsville, then moved to > > Denning/Grahamsville > > >> on > > >> the border of Ulster and Sullivan County. I know there were a number of > > >> Tompkins in southern Greene including several in the Lexington area. > > But > > > I > > >> have never been able to put Sophia to a family line. Again, no records > > >> of > > >> marriage, christenings, etc. Just a blank wall. I do have good records > > > of > > >> her descendants, her husband's civil war demise and ultimately her > > murder > > >> at > > >> the hands of her second husband - but who were her parents? > > >> > > >> Gary > > >> [email protected] > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Audrey, Super kudos! That IS an amazing amount of genealogical information to be found in a newspaper account. OK, not primary evidence but still AMAZING! Dick Hillenbrand On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Audrey Klinkenberg <[email protected]>wrote: > Gary, I have info... From the Saugerties Telegraph, Nov 27, 1868 > Amanda Brodhead was found insensible on the roadside in Accord on the 15th > with bullet holes in her heart. She died on Wednesday following... > > >From the Saugerties Telegraph, Dec 4, 1868 > It was not Amanda Broadhead who was murdered, she is in Grand Rapids, > Michigan. The person killed was Sophia Smith, whose name before marriage > was Sophia Tompkins, born near Olive, who married twice, first to Jacob > Hornbeck, who enlisted in the 143rd regiment and died inthe army, and > second > in September, 1867 to Jeremiah Smith, who murdered her. Jeremiah Smith was > raised in Neversink. Three children living at home, aged 12, 9 and 5, two > girls and a boy, and one daughter married and lving in Olive. > > Although there won't be any other genealogical information in the article, > there may be more details about the incident. > The newspapers are on microfilm at The Saugerties Public Library. Ask and > ye shall receive... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary Dufel" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 12:09 PM > Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Rev Hedstrom plus Dunagan and Tompkins > > > > Dick - > > > > Thanks for the tips and the interest. > > > > I do have a wealth of info from the newspapers - and I have it typed if > > anyone cares for a copy. Although the murderer was known, he was never > > captured, thus no trial. I did think of the court records for the > various > > activities that did take place, but everyone tells me there would be no > > records from 1868. (By the way - murder was in Accord, Ulster County). > > > > Never once in all the news articles did it discuss the woman's parentage, > > which is what I am interested in. And not only did I never run across and > > obit from late 1868, she is known to be buried in an unmarked grave - I > > presume in Accord. I have even spoken to someone who thought he had a > > line > > on the local cemetery records, but that did not pan out. > > > > This is what makes family history such an interesting hobby. It's the > > chase > > for info, when info is tough to locate. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Dick Hillenbrand > > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 11:42 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Rev Hedstrom plus Dunagan and Tompkins > > > > > > Gary, > > > > The chances of finding marriage record notes of this man is near > > impossible, > > but the operative word is "near." > > > > As it turns out that he being fairly prominent and a newspaper editor, > > there > > "might" be some of his journals somewhere and if I were you I would not > > rest > > until I found them. > > > > Sophia, murdered? GREAT! > > (Of course not so great for Sophia, and my apologies, but couldn't > > resist.) > > There will be court records of the trial, and you might get testimony > from > > a > > brother or married sister, or some other type of clue. Dig through the > > case > > files, they are all published in the court house of record. > > > > There will also be newspaper accounts, and best might be a juicy estate > > file > > in a probate court somewhere. > > > > This is a straw wall that any wolf could easily blow down. \grin/ > > > > Dick Hillenbrand > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Gary Dufel <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> I want to thank eveyone who took in interest in The Rev Hedstrom. I > >> wasn't > >> so much interested in his bio as I was finding records of people who he > >> officiated at their wedding or christenings, but I do appreciate people > >> spending some time on this task. > >> > >> There are two other brick walls that I have never broken down. Again > >> with > >> all the great advice I have been given and the efforts of some people on > >> the > >> Rev Hedstrom, I ask if anyone has clues to either of the following. It > >> is > >> not that I expect people to do my research as I sit back, I am simply > out > >> of > >> ideas and can use the expertise of others to see if these walls can be > >> knocked loose. > >> > >> 1. A Michael Donegan/Dunagan/Dunigan (born in Ireland about 1804) > > probably > >> arrived in Hunter about 1826-1827, married Elenor Underhill and they had > >> numerous children as was the fashion of the day (Mary Ann, John, Andrew, > >> Michael, Ellen, Lucy, William, Martha, Julia Theresa, and possibly one > >> older > >> daughter from the 1820's who never got listed by name in the census). > In > >> about 1848 they moved to Ulster County - Town of Olive. My main quest > is > >> to > >> get any info on the background of Michael Donegan "from Ireland". I > have > >> found no records of any kind in Hunter for he or his family. No church > >> records, no marriage, christenings, land - if it wasn't for census > >> records > >> I > >> would wonder if he existed. So any ideas to get a line on Michael or on > >> the > >> descendants of the daughters would be welcome. I have very good info on > >> the > >> sons - some of whom were in the Civil War. > >> > >> 2. Sophia Tompkins - born in Greene County probably mid 1820's, married > > to > >> Jacob Hornbeck in 1844 in Prattsville, then moved to > Denning/Grahamsville > >> on > >> the border of Ulster and Sullivan County. I know there were a number of > >> Tompkins in southern Greene including several in the Lexington area. > But > > I > >> have never been able to put Sophia to a family line. Again, no records > >> of > >> marriage, christenings, etc. Just a blank wall. I do have good records > > of > >> her descendants, her husband's civil war demise and ultimately her > murder > >> at > >> the hands of her second husband - but who were her parents? > >> > >> Gary > >> [email protected] > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >